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Re: Jesus Christ

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  Re: Jesus Christ mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-11-20 00:54 -0800
    Re: Jesus Christ "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-11-20 03:12 -0800
      Re: Jesus Christ David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-11-20 12:43 +0100
        Re: Jesus Christ Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-11-20 08:59 -0800
          Re: Jesus Christ "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-11-20 09:30 -0800
            Re: Jesus Christ jladasky@itu.edu - 2017-11-21 23:12 -0800
              Re: Jesus Christ mark.bluemel@gmail.com - 2017-11-22 00:40 -0800
                Re: Jesus Christ fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2017-11-22 08:12 -0800
              Re: Jesus Christ "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-11-22 09:39 -0500
                Re: Jesus Christ Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-11-22 15:03 -0500
                  Re: Jesus Christ "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-11-22 12:15 -0800
              Re: Jesus Christ Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2017-11-22 23:20 -0400
          Re: Jesus Christ David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-11-20 22:36 +0100
    Re: Jesus Christ "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-11-20 03:14 -0800
    Re: Jesus Christ rickchodginjesus@gmail.com - 2017-11-20 03:14 -0800
      Re: Jesus Christ "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-11-20 03:22 -0800

#123039 — Re: Jesus Christ

Frommark.bluemel@gmail.com
Date2017-11-20 00:54 -0800
SubjectRe: Jesus Christ
Message-ID<b3a717eb-5925-489e-8677-8619fb9883c7@googlegroups.com>
On Monday, 20 November 2017 03:51:31 UTC, rickchod...@gmail.com  wrote:

So Rick has now lured additional trolls. God bless you, you great apostle.

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#123043

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-11-20 03:12 -0800
Message-ID<a9ff86b5-9f52-4187-bab0-4d85edb113bc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123039
On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 3:54:37 AM UTC-5, mark.b...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 20 November 2017 03:51:31 UTC, rickchod...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> So Rick has now lured additional trolls. God bless you, you great apostle.

He is attacking me.  He's contacted a local Muslim group with my 
name, deliberately inciting them, trying to get them to retaliate
against me:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.development/lr7c-7kNUxo/qbycC3QUAAAJ

He's sent death threats to me and my family.  He posted death threats 
on my GitHub account, which got his account deleted.  He claims to 
have lost lots of source code as a result, and has been escalating 
his attacks against me.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin 

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#123052

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2017-11-20 12:43 +0100
Message-ID<ouuf5p$v4f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#123043
On 20/11/17 12:12, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 3:54:37 AM UTC-5, mark.b...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, 20 November 2017 03:51:31 UTC, rickchod...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>
>> So Rick has now lured additional trolls. God bless you, you great apostle.
> 
> He is attacking me.  He's contacted a local Muslim group with my 
> name, deliberately inciting them, trying to get them to retaliate
> against me:
> 
>     https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.development/lr7c-7kNUxo/qbycC3QUAAAJ
> 
> He's sent death threats to me and my family.  He posted death threats 
> on my GitHub account, which got his account deleted.  He claims to 
> have lost lots of source code as a result, and has been escalating 
> his attacks against me.
> 

If someone is making death threats to you, tell the police.  Don't tell
us - there is nothing anyone here can do.  We don't know who this person
is, we don't care, and we don't need to be informed repeatedly about his
posts.  No one really distinguishes between religious waffle from the
real you, and religious waffle from your stalker - the posts are equally
annoying.

I am very much against impersonation on the net - it is fraud, and it is
IMHO worse than many other kinds of abuses (including relentless
religious posts).  I am even more against death threats or bothering
someone's family.  But there is /nothing/ I or anyone else can do to
help you with that.

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#123091

FromKeith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Date2017-11-20 08:59 -0800
Message-ID<lnzi7gvqbi.fsf@kst-u.example.com>
In reply to#123052
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> On 20/11/17 12:12, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
[SNIP]

David, everything in your followup was directed to Rick.  Nobody else
on comp.lang.c needed to see it.  Rick posts with a valid e-mail
address.

The same could be said about this followup, but I'm hoping (perhaps
futilely) to remind others not to reply to off-topic posts.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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#123095

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-11-20 09:30 -0800
Message-ID<b33d8a9c-db7e-47df-997b-a8eae59d0366@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123091
On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 12:00:03 PM UTC-5, Keith Thompson wrote:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> > On 20/11/17 12:12, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> [SNIP]
> 
> David, everything in your followup was directed to Rick.  Nobody else
> on comp.lang.c needed to see it.  Rick posts with a valid e-mail
> address.
> 
> The same could be said about this followup, but I'm hoping (perhaps
> futilely) to remind others not to reply to off-topic posts.

David knows that I have his private emails sent to me going directly
to my trash folder.  If he wishes to contact me, his only recourse
to contact me is here, where I might see his post on Google Groups.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#123277

Fromjladasky@itu.edu
Date2017-11-21 23:12 -0800
Message-ID<35de82b2-e817-40bb-a533-ba207b90b06b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123095
Pardon me.  This is the one and only time I'm going to go off-topic.

On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 9:31:09 AM UTC-8, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 12:00:03 PM UTC-5, Keith Thompson wrote:
> > David Brown <d...n@h...o> writes:
> > > On 20/11/17 12:12, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > [SNIP]
> > 
> > David, everything in your followup was directed to Rick.  Nobody else
> > on comp.lang.c needed to see it.  Rick posts with a valid e-mail
> > address.
> > 
> > The same could be said about this followup, but I'm hoping (perhaps
> > futilely) to remind others not to reply to off-topic posts.
> 
> David knows that I have his private emails sent to me going directly
> to my trash folder.  If he wishes to contact me, his only recourse
> to contact me is here, where I might see his post on Google Groups.
> 
> -- 
> Rick C. Hodgin

HOW VERY INTERESTING!  Rick sends messages he doesn't want to see... into a trash folder.  Well, let me just remind Rick, anyone who reads Usenet through Google Groups (and that's a lot of people) CAN'T route YOUR unwanted posts to a trash folder.  There isn't one.

Rick has a technological solution to an annoying problem, and he uses it.  Meanwhile, Rick has no compunction about annoying others who don't have access to that same technological solution.  That's hypocritical.

I can't tell you the number of times I've clicked "Report Abuse > Spam" on one of Rick's religion posts.  Google happily ignores these reports.  However, I make a point to let any on-topic discussions stand.  I'll even answer a post by Rick -- provided that it's actually about C.

Try this, Rick.  STOP the off-topic spamming.  Permanently.  I predict that the troll(s) you attracted will soon go back to ignoring you.

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#123279

Frommark.bluemel@gmail.com
Date2017-11-22 00:40 -0800
Message-ID<ff56b20d-65ee-440b-bca2-48400ba65633@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123277
On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 07:12:45 UTC, jlad...@itu.edu  wrote:

> Rick has a technological solution to an annoying problem, and he uses it.
> Meanwhile, Rick has no compunction about annoying others who don't have
> access to that same technological solution.  That's hypocritical.

TL:DR - Rick is an asshole. We already know that. As an advertisement
for Christianity, he's wonderful. Still, if God can accept him, we can
see that he is a very tolerant God.

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#123310

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2017-11-22 08:12 -0800
Message-ID<7ddcc787-88f2-4557-a1c1-f6c4626ee770@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123279
W dniu środa, 22 listopada 2017 09:40:43 UTC+1 użytkownik mark.b...@gmail.com napisał:
> On Wednesday, 22 November 2017 07:12:45 UTC, jlad...@itu.edu  wrote:
> 
> > Rick has a technological solution to an annoying problem, and he uses it.
> > Meanwhile, Rick has no compunction about annoying others who don't have
> > access to that same technological solution.  That's hypocritical.
> 
> TL:DR - Rick is an asshole. We already know that. As an advertisement
> for Christianity, he's wonderful. Still, if God can accept him, we can
> see that he is a very tolerant God.

even talking about rick (not to mention reading it) is like smashing your brain with a most stupid soap opera of stupidity

follow yhe anti-idiot policy and never answer to this idiot spammer

additionaly people would do good not even talking on/about this troll spamer (though it is nor part of the policy it is also for sure better than not)

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#123295

From"James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net>
Date2017-11-22 09:39 -0500
Message-ID<77205c48-d3e7-2eac-9ab4-31ee7002cd0d@verizon.net>
In reply to#123277
On 11/22/2017 02:12 AM, jladasky@itu.edu wrote:
> Pardon me.  This is the one and only time I'm going to go off-topic.
...
> I can't tell you the number of times I've clicked "Report Abuse > Spam" on one of Rick's > religion posts.  Google happily ignores these reports.

Google doesn't completely ignore those reports.
Normally, when you view the Google Groups page for a particular topic, a 
portion of each message is displayed next to the name of the person who 
posted it. When someone reports a message as abusive, that text is 
replaced by "This message has been hidden because someone has reported 
it for abuse. To see it anyway, click here."
If someone reports the very first message of an entire topic as abusive, 
in the newsgroup page the topic title is not displayed. In its place is 
the message "This topic has been hidden because someone reported it for 
abuse."
These changes don't go into effect immediately - you have to completely 
leave the relevant web page and then come back to it so see those messages.

When viewed by the person who reported the abuse, "someone" is replaced 
by "you".  When I view comp.lang.c, the overwhelming majority of 
messages reported for abuse in comp.lang.c say "you", not "someone". So 
I'm apparently doing most of the reporting.

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#123323

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2017-11-22 15:03 -0500
Message-ID<ov4l63$v6e$2@jstuckle.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#123295
On 11/22/2017 9:39 AM, James R. Kuyper wrote:
> On 11/22/2017 02:12 AM, jladasky@itu.edu wrote:
>> Pardon me.  This is the one and only time I'm going to go off-topic.
> ...
>> I can't tell you the number of times I've clicked "Report Abuse > 
>> Spam" on one of Rick's > religion posts.  Google happily ignores these 
>> reports.
> 
> Google doesn't completely ignore those reports.
> Normally, when you view the Google Groups page for a particular topic, a 
> portion of each message is displayed next to the name of the person who 
> posted it. When someone reports a message as abusive, that text is 
> replaced by "This message has been hidden because someone has reported 
> it for abuse. To see it anyway, click here."
> If someone reports the very first message of an entire topic as abusive, 
> in the newsgroup page the topic title is not displayed. In its place is 
> the message "This topic has been hidden because someone reported it for 
> abuse."
> These changes don't go into effect immediately - you have to completely 
> leave the relevant web page and then come back to it so see those messages.
> 
> When viewed by the person who reported the abuse, "someone" is replaced 
> by "you".  When I view comp.lang.c, the overwhelming majority of 
> messages reported for abuse in comp.lang.c say "you", not "someone". So 
> I'm apparently doing most of the reporting.

That's fine if you read via Giggle Gropes.  But not if you use a real 
newsreader.

-- 
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
jstucklex@attglobal.net
==================

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#123324

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-11-22 12:15 -0800
Message-ID<9541f5ba-a1f7-4b4e-a77d-ae0a48beacc8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123323
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 3:03:28 PM UTC-5, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> That's fine if you read via Giggle Gropes.  But not if you use a real 
> newsreader.

I have not been posting the many posts recently flooding the several
groups I normally post to.  A man named Peter Cheung has been imperson-
ating me.  He has posted messages using "rickchodginjesus@gmail.com",
and here in the past day or two has been using my own email address,
but if you examine the headers on the messages you'll see they are
posted through aioe.org using an Apple/Mac software program.  I do
not use Apple products.

There are ways to identify the false posts from my real posts.  In
many cases you can by the content.  In other cases, the headers will
reveal it clearly.

You can set filters in a "real newsreader" to block any content you
like.  If anyone needs assistance in setting that up, I'm happy to
assist you ... even if it's to block my own legitimate content.

I'm not here to force anything on anyone.  What Jesus Christ offers
is an offering.  It's given freely to whosoever will receive it.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#123350

FromReal Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>
Date2017-11-22 23:20 -0400
Message-ID<ov5em1$1q0l$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#123277
On 22/11/2017 07:12, jladasky@itu.edu wrote:
>
>
> I can't tell you the number of times I've clicked "Report Abuse > Spam" on one of Rick's religion posts.  Google happily ignores these reports.  However, I make a point to let any on-topic discussions stand.  I'll even answer a post by Rick -- provided that it's actually about C.
>
>

You can do better than than this by kill-filing him so that you don't 
have to do anything and help us all not to read anything that idiot or 
his impersonator writes about Jesus.

I don't see any posts from nutters talking about religion but people 
like you are quoting their posts and now we have to kill-file people 
like you as well for being fools wasting time replying to them.

Is your college not teaching students how to avoid problems?  You avoid 
problems by blocking them completely.  Now go and teach your students 
how to do this.


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#123128

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2017-11-20 22:36 +0100
Message-ID<ouvhsa$cp8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#123091
On 20/11/17 17:59, Keith Thompson wrote:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
>> On 20/11/17 12:12, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> [SNIP]
> 
> David, everything in your followup was directed to Rick.  Nobody else
> on comp.lang.c needed to see it.  Rick posts with a valid e-mail
> address.
> 

I don't agree - it was not just for Rick (if it had been, I would not 
have bothered with a post or an email).  For most off-topic postings, I 
fully appreciate your point.  But there are some kinds of abuse where I 
think it is important for people in a community to stand up and say it 
will not be tolerated.  And that needs to be said in public, in the 
community - not just in private emails.

There is very little I or any of us can do about the kind of abuse Rick 
has been suffering here - about the only think we /can/ do is say that 
it is not right.  No matter how much annoyance and irritation he has 
caused people here and in other groups, no matter how much he has 
insulted people (certainly me), no matter how much he has damaged this 
newsgroup community - /no one/ deserves death threats or having their 
family pestered.

I won't need to say this again, or add more to the thread - but I hope 
you can understand my position here (and why I wanted to post both my 
first post, and this one, to the group rather than as email).

> The same could be said about this followup, but I'm hoping (perhaps
> futilely) to remind others not to reply to off-topic posts.
> 

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#123044

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-11-20 03:14 -0800
Message-ID<c9d21fcb-63d3-4725-810c-0245a324428f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123039
On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 3:54:37 AM UTC-5, mark.b...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, 20 November 2017 03:51:31 UTC, rickchod...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> So Rick has now lured additional trolls. God bless you, you great apostle.

He is attacking me.  He's contacted a local Muslim group with my 
name, deliberately inciting them, trying to get them to retaliate
against me:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.development/lr7c-7kNUxo/qbycC3QUAAAJ

He's sent death threats to me and my family.  He posted death threats 
on my GitHub account, which got his account deleted.  He claims to 
have lost lots of source code as a result, and has been escalating 
his attacks against me into now involving third parties.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#123046

Fromrickchodginjesus@gmail.com
Date2017-11-20 03:14 -0800
Message-ID<8d60c09c-00e2-4174-b731-846d1acee3ce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123039
see this https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.os.development/xHPZCyjB56g

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#123048

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-11-20 03:22 -0800
Message-ID<9abc05e6-4b18-439b-bd7d-04ce3c7b9788@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#123046
On Monday, November 20, 2017 at 6:15:07 AM UTC-5, rickchod...@gmail.com wrote:
> see this https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.os.development/xHPZCyjB56g

Peter, why are you so upset?

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.development/KhLjFSllYys/6Ltuv8yFAAAJ

Many people on our prayer groups are praying for you.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin 

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