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| Started by | Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> |
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| First post | 2015-09-08 21:08 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-09-11 12:14 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 282 — 37 participants |
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"Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2015-09-08 21:08 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-09 00:16 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-09 12:04 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-09 04:24 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-09 17:39 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-09 11:01 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-09 19:37 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-09 20:13 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-09 19:51 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-09 22:07 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-09 20:02 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-09 16:13 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-10 00:46 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-09 17:20 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-09 17:49 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 12:54 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-09 18:15 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-09 21:13 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 16:30 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-10 07:13 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-10 07:05 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-09-10 10:40 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-10 10:27 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-10 02:30 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-10 11:42 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-10 03:44 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 17:42 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-15 20:17 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-09-15 17:08 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 03:32 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-09-15 20:46 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 08:51 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 11:04 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-21 13:21 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" August Karlstrom <fusionfile@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 20:21 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-09-10 11:26 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-10 05:13 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-10 13:23 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-10 05:34 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-10 13:46 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-10 16:17 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 22:52 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-11 12:17 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-11 15:59 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-11 10:01 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-09-11 08:48 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-11 17:20 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jadill33@gmail.com - 2015-09-11 10:40 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-11 11:14 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 06:46 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-11 08:59 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-11 11:23 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-11 18:40 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-11 22:44 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 06:54 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-11 23:13 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-12 15:16 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-09-12 17:51 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-13 17:01 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-11 18:18 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-12 15:28 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-12 16:00 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-13 23:07 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-13 16:56 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-14 01:08 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 10:31 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-14 03:56 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 14:31 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-14 05:49 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-14 01:55 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 13:23 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-14 11:35 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 14:04 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-15 10:22 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Michael Forsythe <forsythe@example.com> - 2015-09-14 13:07 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-14 13:23 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-14 06:32 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-14 16:44 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 18:25 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-14 21:48 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-14 21:23 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-15 09:07 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-15 11:40 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-15 13:32 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-15 14:13 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-15 15:53 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-15 18:22 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-15 22:13 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 00:55 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 03:51 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 10:34 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 12:43 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 13:12 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 14:46 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 17:26 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-16 17:35 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 10:48 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 19:53 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 12:28 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-16 19:35 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 13:11 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-16 21:59 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-17 01:12 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 21:11 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 13:53 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 23:07 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 23:10 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 10:26 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 22:59 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-16 13:15 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 08:35 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-16 15:40 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 11:16 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 10:38 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 09:17 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-17 11:08 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 11:52 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-17 12:33 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 12:55 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 13:20 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-17 14:32 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-17 22:52 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 16:47 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-18 10:00 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-18 11:14 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-09-18 19:47 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" wssimms@gmail.com - 2015-09-18 19:56 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-19 03:57 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-09-23 12:32 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 18:28 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 16:32 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 11:03 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 08:42 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 22:53 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-16 22:23 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 15:34 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-16 16:07 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 11:20 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-16 16:44 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-10-02 13:18 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-17 00:45 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:02 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-17 01:17 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 17:24 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 14:23 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 11:27 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-17 12:07 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-17 23:10 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-17 08:40 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 09:02 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-17 10:44 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-18 13:13 +1200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 22:39 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-18 09:03 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-26 16:46 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-27 08:13 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-09-29 10:12 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 14:03 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 05:23 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 15:12 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 11:16 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-17 11:53 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Waldek Hebisch <hebisch@antispam.uni.wroc.pl> - 2015-09-20 15:00 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 18:23 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 01:23 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 08:58 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-17 16:14 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 09:34 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 12:32 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 03:54 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-17 14:09 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-17 12:17 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-09-17 10:12 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-17 19:41 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-17 21:10 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-17 20:19 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-17 21:44 +0100
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-17 13:46 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-18 14:00 +0200
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-18 06:19 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-09-18 08:25 -0500
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 13:58 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 10:48 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-09-23 15:09 +0000
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-23 09:00 -0700
Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 12:34 -0500
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Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-09 12:00 +0100
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Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-09-11 02:18 +0100
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| From | Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-08 21:08 -0500 |
| Subject | "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" |
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"Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)"
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/know-your-language-c-rules-everything-around-me-part-one
A history of C ?
Lynn
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 00:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a08888a4-efba-45cd-a44e-f422abd932e0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70020 |
On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 3:08:56 AM UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote: > "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/know-your-language-c-rules-everything-around-me-part-one > > A history of C ? > B wasn't around for very long before Ritchie finished C. The new language was basically just B with the addition of "types." In B, all data was the same--big integers, small integers, characters, floating point (non-whole) numbers--and referencing a variable in it just meant referencing a location in memory, whatever that location actually contained. In practice, this is not unlike how contemporary interpreted languages like JavaScript handle data, but it was limiting in that every variable declaration requiring a single set amount of memory, no matter how much was actually required. I realise what we need. Not C--, but B64. A language which is effectively C, but where everything - pointers, integers, reals - is a 64 bit type. How shall we handle strings? Basically they will always be a unit of 64 bits, with zero padding, and you'll have a low-level accessor syntax which returns / writes a 64 bit character type. In fact we'll probably also write UTF-8 into the language. We can get rid of unsigned (no point in an unsigned 64 bit value), typedefs, compulsory prototypes, casts except from int to real and back, alignment issues. The result is a very clean language, which can be implemented efficiently on 64 bit machines.
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 12:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87a8svluqc.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #70026 |
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: <snip> > I realise what we need. Not C--, but B64. BCPL (in many ways a better B) is, I think, available in a 64-bit version. Martin Richards (the originator of BCPL) has even made a new language, MCPL which is BCPL with "pattern matching" al la ML. <snip> -- Ben.
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 04:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2e35514d-e711-4a6e-a72a-93f852e2bcc5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70032 |
On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 12:04:22 PM UTC+1, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: > <snip> > > I realise what we need. Not C--, but B64. > > BCPL (in many ways a better B) is, I think, available in a 64-bit > version. Martin Richards (the originator of BCPL) has even made a new > language, MCPL which is BCPL with "pattern matching" al la ML. > My view is that regular expressions are a red herring. Perl has excellent regexp support built in. But the reality is that the expressions are too complex to enter first time and get right - they're like a mini-programming language, and with any programming language, you rarely get something that isn't entirely simple first time - you have to run and test. Then they're also hard to read. Then there are some thing you can't match using the grammar. However Martin Richards would be the person to get in touch with if anyone is serious about B64.
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 17:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87y4gfk0ns.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #70036 |
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: > On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 12:04:22 PM UTC+1, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: >> <snip> >> > I realise what we need. Not C--, but B64. >> >> BCPL (in many ways a better B) is, I think, available in a 64-bit >> version. Martin Richards (the originator of BCPL) has even made a new >> language, MCPL which is BCPL with "pattern matching" al la ML. >> > My view is that regular expressions are a red herring. Yes, they have nothing to do with MCPL. Pattern matching al la ML is for deconstructing objects. It gives you more readable code when handling data structures wich is something that is often rather obtuse in typeless languages. > However Martin Richards would be the person to get in touch with if anyone > is serious about B64. Mainly if you want 64-bit BCPL not B, though I suppose he might have some remarks to make about B. B is almost entirely dead, I think. Both BCPL and MCPL are available for download from his site. http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/ -- Ben.
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 11:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lnwpvzpj41.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #70055 |
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
[...]
> Mainly if you want 64-bit BCPL not B, though I suppose he might have
> some remarks to make about B. B is almost entirely dead, I think. Both
> BCPL and MCPL are available for download from his site.
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/
There actually is a working B compiler:
https://github.com/Leushenko/ybc
Quoting the README:
You will not (ever) be able to use this compiler to build antique B
programs from the 70s. Fundamental differences (see below) make such
a task impossible - this is a toy, intended for getting the feel of
B (or, if you're a maniac, writing new programs).
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 19:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87si6njv67.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #70060 |
Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes: > Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes: > [...] >> Mainly if you want 64-bit BCPL not B, though I suppose he might have >> some remarks to make about B. B is almost entirely dead, I think. Both >> BCPL and MCPL are available for download from his site. >> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/ > > There actually is a working B compiler: > > https://github.com/Leushenko/ybc Interesting. I think that might have come up here before; the letters ybc ring a bell now I see them. A bit of work to make it 64-bit and Malcolm is good to go. > Quoting the README: > > You will not (ever) be able to use this compiler to build antique B > programs from the 70s. Fundamental differences (see below) make such > a task impossible - this is a toy, intended for getting the feel of > B (or, if you're a maniac, writing new programs). I have a chess-playing program I wrote in B somewhere (probably the first serious program I ever wrote) but I doubt it's worth trying to resurrect it. For one thing, the differences in dialect are likely to be nothing compared to the difficulty getting it off a 1/2" tape, 8" floppy or where ever it ended up. -- Ben.
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| From | Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 20:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <msq0a0$ca3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #70060 |
On 09/09/2015 19:01, Keith Thompson wrote: > Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes: > [...] >> Mainly if you want 64-bit BCPL not B, though I suppose he might have >> some remarks to make about B. B is almost entirely dead, I think. Both >> BCPL and MCPL are available for download from his site. >> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/ > > There actually is a working B compiler: > > https://github.com/Leushenko/ybc > > Quoting the README: > > You will not (ever) be able to use this compiler to build antique B > programs from the 70s. Fundamental differences (see below) make such > a task impossible - this is a toy, intended for getting the feel of > B (or, if you're a maniac, writing new programs). And: "The compiler outputs GAS assembly and assumes the existence of GCC (or Clang on Mac OS X) to assemble it." This is the sort of helpful information that is welcome in a Readme file (clang distributors, take note!). -- Bartc
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| From | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 19:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmv13em.eij.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| In reply to | #70055 |
On Wed, 2015-09-09, Ben Bacarisse wrote: > Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: > >> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 12:04:22 PM UTC+1, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: >>> <snip> >>> > I realise what we need. Not C--, but B64. >>> >>> BCPL (in many ways a better B) is, I think, available in a 64-bit >>> version. Martin Richards (the originator of BCPL) has even made a new >>> language, MCPL which is BCPL with "pattern matching" al la ML. >>> >> My view is that regular expressions are a red herring. > > Yes, they have nothing to do with MCPL. Pattern matching al la ML is > for deconstructing objects. It gives you more readable code when > handling data structures wich is something that is often rather obtuse > in typeless languages. To avoid misinterpretation: /ML/ is a strongly (and statically) typed language. (A lot like Haskell, which I guess more people are familiar with today.) /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 22:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87fv2njo8k.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #70069 |
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> writes: > On Wed, 2015-09-09, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: >> >>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 12:04:22 PM UTC+1, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: >>>> <snip> >>>> > I realise what we need. Not C--, but B64. >>>> >>>> BCPL (in many ways a better B) is, I think, available in a 64-bit >>>> version. Martin Richards (the originator of BCPL) has even made a new >>>> language, MCPL which is BCPL with "pattern matching" al la ML. >>>> >>> My view is that regular expressions are a red herring. >> >> Yes, they have nothing to do with MCPL. Pattern matching al la ML is >> for deconstructing objects. It gives you more readable code when >> handling data structures wich is something that is often rather obtuse >> in typeless languages. > > To avoid misinterpretation: /ML/ is a strongly (and statically) typed > language. (A lot like Haskell, which I guess more people are familiar > with today.) Yes, good point. While MCPL is typeless, ML has a rich type system and this was not entirely clear from my wording. To give an MCPL example, the pattern : [left, data(>max), right] => ... only matches a chunk of memory where the second item is greater than some known value (called max), but at the same time the names left, data and right are bound to the values in the first three cells of the chunk. They can then be used in the commands the follow the =>. In MCPL, it provides a way to do mult-way conditionals while, at the same time, avoiding lots of explicit accesses. -- Ben.
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| From | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 20:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmv141u.eij.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| In reply to | #70036 |
On Wed, 2015-09-09, Malcolm McLean wrote: ... > My view is that regular expressions are a red herring. Perl has excellent regexp > support built in. But the reality is that the expressions are too complex to > enter first time and get right - they're like a mini-programming language, > and with any programming language, you rarely get something that isn't > entirely simple first time - you have to run and test. Then they're also hard > to read. Sure -- but what's the alternative? For a problem best suited for REs, a solution which avoids them will be even more complex, harder to get right, and harder to read. And I do believe such problems are rather common -- at least in the areas where I do my work, such as where traditional Unix idioms are used. > Then there are some thing you can't match using the grammar. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 16:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <da142b82-271f-4d5c-8dd6-21356001f43e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70070 |
On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 9:02:17 PM UTC+1, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > On Wed, 2015-09-09, Malcolm McLean wrote: > ... > > My view is that regular expressions are a red herring. Perl > > has excellent regexp support built in. But the reality is that > > the expressions are too complex to enter first time and get > > right - they're like a mini-programming language, > > and with any programming language, you rarely get something that > > isn't entirely simple first time - you have to run and test. > > Then they're also hard to read. > > Sure -- but what's the alternative? For a problem best suited for > REs, a solution which avoids them will be even more complex, harder to > get right, and harder to read. > > And I do believe such problems are rather common -- at least in the > areas where I do my work, such as where traditional Unix idioms are > used. > If the job is to match a pattern, often a wildcard (or "glob") will do just as well. Certain the user should never enter a regexp, but asking the user for a glob is fine. If the job is parsing input, then there's no one answer. strtok() is pretty horrid, sscanf() is OK for simple patterns, a little ad hoc parser built on top of strncmp() and strtod() is good for other problems, and a full blown token-based parser is right for grammars. Regular expression parsing should be held back as almost a last resort. Essentially it's just a headache to maintain. You achieve that by hiding the regular expression library away somewhere - it's there, but you've got to link it or import it or whatever. It shouldn't be built into the language - that encourages use a first resort - the every problem looks like a nail issue.
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-10 00:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87a8svjgw1.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #70083 |
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: <snip> > If the job is to match a pattern, often a wildcard (or "glob") will > do just as well. Certain the user should never enter a regexp, but > asking the user for a glob is fine. As the user of this text editor and of grep, sed, awk (and other such programs), I am glad the authors did not follow that advice. <snip> > [...] It shouldn't be built into the language - that > encourages use a first resort - the every problem looks like > a nail issue. The oft-quoted saying "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" has a companion: "when you don't have a hammer, the nails never look useful". -- Ben.
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 17:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ln7fnzp1ko.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #70083 |
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes:
> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 9:02:17 PM UTC+1, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
[...]
>> And I do believe such problems are rather common -- at least in the
>> areas where I do my work, such as where traditional Unix idioms are
>> used.
>>
> If the job is to match a pattern, often a wildcard (or "glob") will
> do just as well. Certain the user should never enter a regexp, but
> asking the user for a glob is fine.
That doesn't match my experience at all.
I use tools every day that require regular expressions (grep, sed, vim,
etc.). I use globs (file matching patterns) all the time as well, but
regular expressions are much more powerful.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 17:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <40a9707d-5824-4502-a2a3-469c03bdf058@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70102 |
On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 1:20:30 AM UTC+1, Keith Thompson wrote: > Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: > > On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 9:02:17 PM UTC+1, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > [...] > >> And I do believe such problems are rather common -- at least in the > >> areas where I do my work, such as where traditional Unix idioms are > >> used. > >> > > If the job is to match a pattern, often a wildcard (or "glob") will > > do just as well. Certain the user should never enter a regexp, but > > asking the user for a glob is fine. > > That doesn't match my experience at all. > > I use tools every day that require regular expressions (grep, sed, vim, > etc.). I use globs (file matching patterns) all the time as well, but > regular expressions are much more powerful. > And that's the sort of thing that gets Unix a bad name.
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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-10 12:54 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <d5c2m5Fs2enU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70106 |
Malcolm McLean wrote: > On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 1:20:30 AM UTC+1, Keith Thompson wrote: >> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: >>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 9:02:17 PM UTC+1, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >> [...] >>>> And I do believe such problems are rather common -- at least in the >>>> areas where I do my work, such as where traditional Unix idioms are >>>> used. >>>> >>> If the job is to match a pattern, often a wildcard (or "glob") will >>> do just as well. Certain the user should never enter a regexp, but >>> asking the user for a glob is fine. >> >> That doesn't match my experience at all. >> >> I use tools every day that require regular expressions (grep, sed, vim, >> etc.). I use globs (file matching patterns) all the time as well, but >> regular expressions are much more powerful. >> > And that's the sort of thing that gets Unix a bad name. What is? The ability to use globs and regular expressions? -- Ian Collins
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 18:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <030adb8f-1d5a-4ab3-a66f-64ab0a131d4f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #70107 |
On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 1:54:40 AM UTC+1, Ian Collins wrote: > Malcolm McLean wrote: > > On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 1:20:30 AM UTC+1, Keith Thompson wrote: > >> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: > >>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 9:02:17 PM UTC+1, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > >> [...] > >>>> And I do believe such problems are rather common -- at least in the > >>>> areas where I do my work, such as where traditional Unix idioms are > >>>> used. > >>>> > >>> If the job is to match a pattern, often a wildcard (or "glob") will > >>> do just as well. Certain the user should never enter a regexp, but > >>> asking the user for a glob is fine. > >> > >> That doesn't match my experience at all. > >> > >> I use tools every day that require regular expressions (grep, sed, vim, > >> etc.). I use globs (file matching patterns) all the time as well, but > >> regular expressions are much more powerful. > >> > > And that's the sort of thing that gets Unix a bad name. > > What is? The ability to use globs and regular expressions? > It's the image of people sitting at text consoles entering intricate strings of symbols.
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 21:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lntwr2oqsj.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #70110 |
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes:
> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 1:54:40 AM UTC+1, Ian Collins wrote:
>> Malcolm McLean wrote:
>> > On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 1:20:30 AM UTC+1, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> >> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes:
>> >>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 9:02:17 PM UTC+1, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> >>>> And I do believe such problems are rather common -- at least in the
>> >>>> areas where I do my work, such as where traditional Unix idioms are
>> >>>> used.
>> >>>>
>> >>> If the job is to match a pattern, often a wildcard (or "glob") will
>> >>> do just as well. Certain the user should never enter a regexp, but
>> >>> asking the user for a glob is fine.
>> >>
>> >> That doesn't match my experience at all.
>> >>
>> >> I use tools every day that require regular expressions (grep, sed, vim,
>> >> etc.). I use globs (file matching patterns) all the time as well, but
>> >> regular expressions are much more powerful.
>> >>
>> > And that's the sort of thing that gets Unix a bad name.
>>
>> What is? The ability to use globs and regular expressions?
>>
> It's the image of people sitting at text consoles entering intricate
> strings of symbols.
And thereby getting stuff done.
If it's not your cup of tea, that's fine. For a lot of us, it
works very well.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-10 16:30 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <d5cfbsFs2enU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #70119 |
Keith Thompson wrote: > Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: >> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 1:54:40 AM UTC+1, Ian Collins wrote: >>> Malcolm McLean wrote: >>>> On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 1:20:30 AM UTC+1, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> writes: >>>>>> On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 9:02:17 PM UTC+1, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>>>> And I do believe such problems are rather common -- at least in the >>>>>>> areas where I do my work, such as where traditional Unix idioms are >>>>>>> used. >>>>>>> >>>>>> If the job is to match a pattern, often a wildcard (or "glob") will >>>>>> do just as well. Certain the user should never enter a regexp, but >>>>>> asking the user for a glob is fine. >>>>> >>>>> That doesn't match my experience at all. >>>>> >>>>> I use tools every day that require regular expressions (grep, sed, vim, >>>>> etc.). I use globs (file matching patterns) all the time as well, but >>>>> regular expressions are much more powerful. >>>>> >>>> And that's the sort of thing that gets Unix a bad name. >>> >>> What is? The ability to use globs and regular expressions? >>> >> It's the image of people sitting at text consoles entering intricate >> strings of symbols. > > And thereby getting stuff done. > > If it's not your cup of tea, that's fine. For a lot of us, it > works very well. "Talking to the computer" as on of my kids coined it when I was using a terminal on her Mac :) -- Ian Collins
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| From | Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-09-10 07:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <qc9Ix.324818$xy2.132321@fx13.am4> |
| In reply to | #70122 |
On 10/09/2015 05:30, Ian Collins wrote: <snip> > "Talking to the computer" as on of my kids coined it when I was using a > terminal on her Mac :) A C/Linux friend of mine was hacking (senses 2, 3, 4, 6, 7) at home; his SO looked over his shoulder and asked: "How do you know what to type?" Whereupon, of course, he suddenly didn't. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
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