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  Most popular Technologies: Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2018-03-19 12:50 -0400
    Re: Most popular Technologies: scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-19 17:05 +0000
      Re: Most popular Technologies: "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 01:36 +0800
      Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 19:53 +0800
        Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving   pedestrian Unsteadyken <unsteadyken@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 13:20 +0000
          Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 22:24 +0800
          Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-03-20 10:26 -0400
          Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-03-20 11:24 -0400
            Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 23:48 +0800
              Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-03-20 15:41 -0400
                Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-20 19:47 +0000
          Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving   pedestrian Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-20 09:51 -0700
            Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving   pedestrian "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-255@255soft.uk> - 2018-03-20 19:10 +0000
              Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving   pedestrian Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 04:54 -0700
                Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving   pedestrian Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 05:44 -0700
            Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-03-20 15:46 -0400
              Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-21 09:56 -0700
                Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 10:01 -0700
                Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-03-21 13:24 -0400
                  Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-21 16:17 -0700
                    Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-03-21 19:49 -0400
                      Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2018-03-22 11:52 -0700
                        Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-03-22 22:05 -0400
                        Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 21:20 -0700
        Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-21 10:21 -0700
          Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2018-03-21 21:39 +0000
            Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-03-21 20:13 -0400
          Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:05 -0700
        Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Peter Percival <peterxpercival@hotmail.com> - 2018-03-23 18:06 +0000
          Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 21:18 -0700
        Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2018-03-24 05:12 +0200
      Re: Most popular Technologies: Davs <johndemeert0@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 20:42 -0700
    Re: Most popular Technologies: "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 01:35 +0800
      Re: Most popular Technologies: Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 15:29 -0700
    Re: Most popular Technologies: GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 19:26 +0100
      Re: Most popular Technologies: Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> - 2018-03-19 17:59 -0400
        Re: Most popular Technologies: GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 23:08 +0100
          Re: Most popular Technologies: Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> - 2018-03-19 18:25 -0400
            Re: Most popular Technologies: GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 00:39 +0100
            Re: Most popular Technologies: Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-19 22:19 -0700
        Re: Most popular Technologies: Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-03-20 12:27 +0000
          Re: Most popular Technologies: Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-20 09:29 -0700
        Re: Most popular Technologies: scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-03-20 13:43 +0000
        Re: Most popular Technologies: jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-03-20 06:55 -0700
    Re: Most popular Technologies: Jens Stuckelberger <Jens_Stuckelberger@nowhere.net> - 2018-03-19 19:55 +0000
      Re: Most popular Technologies: "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-03-20 03:58 +0800

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#128182 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

On 2018-03-21 19:17, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>   First you state "... and ignoring all the other Xs that have
> property Z (etc)." and now you state the speaker knows about or
> believes about that same group.  Which is it?

Both. Because "ignoring" in this context means "without explicit 
reference to".

See, English is what it is. It ain't logical. Your arguments are valid, 
but unsound.that often happens.

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weeks ago."

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#128212 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:49:57 -0400, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>On 2018-03-21 19:17, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>>   First you state "... and ignoring all the other Xs that have
>> property Z (etc)." and now you state the speaker knows about or
>> believes about that same group.  Which is it?
>
>Both. Because "ignoring" in this context means "without explicit 
>reference to".
>
>See, English is what it is. It ain't logical. Your arguments are valid, 
>but unsound.that often happens.

     But it is not what you say it is.

     Do you get into trouble with others complaining that you are
putting words in their mouths?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#128222 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

On 2018-03-22 14:52, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:49:57 -0400, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-03-21 19:17, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>>>    First you state "... and ignoring all the other Xs that have
>>> property Z (etc)." and now you state the speaker knows about or
>>> believes about that same group.  Which is it?
>>
>> Both. Because "ignoring" in this context means "without explicit
>> reference to".
>>
>> See, English is what it is. It ain't logical. Your arguments are valid,
>> but unsound.that often happens.
> 
>       But it is not what you say it is.
> 
>       Do you get into trouble with others complaining that you are
> putting words in their mouths?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gene Wirchenko
> 

No.

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weeks ago."

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#128223 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 11:53:00 AM UTC-7, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:49:57 -0400, Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> 
> >On 2018-03-21 19:17, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> >>   First you state "... and ignoring all the other Xs that have
> >> property Z (etc)." and now you state the speaker knows about or
> >> believes about that same group.  Which is it?
> >
> >Both. Because "ignoring" in this context means "without explicit 
> >reference to".
> >
> >See, English is what it is. It ain't logical. Your arguments are valid, 
> >but unsound.that often happens.
> 
>      But it is not what you say it is.
> 
>      Do you get into trouble with others complaining that you are
> putting words in their mouths?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Gene Wirchenko



I have worked in the technology industry for 20 years. I have worked with top companies making deals with the pharmaceutical industry and the insurance industry. Never were we ever instructed not to load any OS we wanted. We sold Unix, SCO, OSF/1, and so forth as well as MS OSs very successfully. 

He disturbs multiple groups of people who are like the grass when elephants fight, but that's a conceited fool for you. What others care about isn't a factor. 

Audra Moore is the repercussion of the fact that humanists have been instructed to take the lead in teaching children. It is not mere happenstance that he is a brainless socialist. That's what Audra Moore does when he gets cornered. He quickly creates a sock, starts a trolling thread so he can claim it was Autumn Nissen (https://www.facebook.com/anissen7). Hey it was my left hand... and then Audra Moore replies to it with his right hand. Too much glue for you, gluey. 

An unceasing, acute, posting itch, regardless of content - basically slimy Audra Moore cartographers, and well-lubricated sheep, hung from the ceiling for his own personal requirements. 

Audra Moore is obviously dishonest, he got caught and he's doing the predictable role-reversal tricks learned in Intro to Trolling classes as he strives to keep his story... but it won't work. He is as incompetent as Audra Moore. 



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#128160 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
> Self-driving Uber
[...]

If you want to discuss this, please drop all the irrelevant newsgroups,
particularly comp.lang.c.  Don't feed the troll.

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Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
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#128177 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

In article <lnsh8tpcnl.fsf@kst-u.example.com>,
Keith Thompson  <kst-u@mib.org> wrote:
>"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> writes:
>[...]
>> Self-driving Uber
>[...]
>
>If you want to discuss this, please drop all the irrelevant newsgroups,
>particularly comp.lang.c.  Don't feed the troll.

How/why would I want to do that, assuming both of the following are true:

    1) I want to discuss this.

    2) CLC is the only relevant (I trust it is clear what I mean by
	relevant) newsgroup that I follow/monitor/post-to.

Really, Kiks, you need to think these things through.

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#128183 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

On 2018-03-21 17:39, Kenny McCormack wrote:
> In article <lnsh8tpcnl.fsf@kst-u.example.com>,
> Keith Thompson  <kst-u@mib.org> wrote:
>> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> writes:
>> [...]
>>> Self-driving Uber
>> [...]
>>
>> If you want to discuss this, please drop all the irrelevant newsgroups,
>> particularly comp.lang.c.  Don't feed the troll.
> 
> How/why would I want to do that, assuming both of the following are true:
> 
>      1) I want to discuss this.
> 
>      2) CLC is the only relevant (I trust it is clear what I mean by
> 	relevant) newsgroup that I follow/monitor/post-to.
> 
> Really, Kiks, you need to think these things through.

The fact that a lot of people still believe that one can program AI 
should be enough IMO to make the topic relevant to comp.programming.

You can write a program to play a game, but you can't program it to play 
better than a human. To do that you'd not only have to play better than 
a human, but understand howcome you can play better. However, you can 
program a neural net to play lots of go games against itself, and learn 
from them. That's how the Go-AI (sorry, I forget the details of 
who/what/when/where/why) was able to beat the best human Go players.

You can program an AI to always win or draw a game with a completely 
defined winning strategy, such as for tic-tac-toe or nim. There's no 
such strategy for Chess or Go. Nor for driving a car.

However, I have no doubt that driver-AIs can be trained to handle novel 
situations at least as well as the best humans can. How soon? That I 
won't even try to estimate. But even the best human drivers will vary in 
their ability to handle any given novel situation. So my claim is rather 
vague.

OTOH, driver-assisting tech will I think become better and better, so 
that drivers will come to rely on it. That will deskill drivers. Eg, 
I've lost my ability to maintain constant speed since I started using 
cruise control. Before that, I could keep the car within +/- 2km/hr 
uphill and down.

-- 
Wolf K
kirkwood40.blogspot.com
"The next conference for the time travel design team will be held two 
weeks ago."

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#128184 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 10:22:00 AM UTC-7, Keith Thompson wrote:
> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> writes:
> [...]
> > Self-driving Uber
> [...]
> 
> If you want to discuss this, please drop all the irrelevant newsgroups,
> particularly comp.lang.c.  Don't feed the troll.
> 
> -- 
> Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
> Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
> "We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
>     -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"



Rambling cretin. Who doesn't know that this kind of idiocy is Takuya Saitoh's modus operandi, not the MO of Autumn Nissen (https://www.facebook.com/anissen7)? It is all just nonsense... the flooding, the sock puppets, the writing of drivel, the anger... the puffy red eyes and eagerness to show how flustered he is over being kicked from the schoolyard for crapping in it again... Takuya Saitoh can not help himself ;) After Autumn Nissen (https://www.facebook.com/anissen7)'s update I no longer want to gouge out my eyeballs from the flicker of the screen. You ran it and read multiple reviews and your "professional opinions" lead you to that assumption, and... 

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#128261 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 20/3/2018 01:05, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>> Garbage in, garbage out.
>>
> 
> Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving 
> pedestrian
> 
> <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/19/uber-self-driving-car-kills-woman-arizona-tempe> 

What has this, you vile mother-fucking syphilitic cunt, got to do with 
any of comp.lang.c, comp.programming, alt.comp.freeware, alt.conspiracy, 
alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.windows7.general?

> 
> 

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#128299 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 11:07:00 AM UTC-7, Peter Percival wrote:
> Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > On 20/3/2018 01:05, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >>
> >> Garbage in, garbage out.
> >>
> > 
> > Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving 
> > pedestrian
> > 
> > <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/19/uber-self-driving-car-kills-woman-arizona-tempe> 
> 
> What has this, you vile mother-fucking syphilitic cunt, got to do with 
> any of comp.lang.c, comp.programming, alt.comp.freeware, alt.conspiracy, 
> alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.windows7.general?
> 
> > 
> >



Zsh shell's update system failed over and over again. 

Time to blame the herd! Already moved on from that. Take it as you want! 

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#128296 — Re: Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 19:53:13 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 20/3/2018 01:05, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>> Garbage in, garbage out.
>>
>
>Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving 
>pedestrian

Was it running Windows 7?


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#128129

On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 1:05:19 AM UTC+8, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> writes:
> >Over 100,000 respondents from around the world participated this year, 
> >making it the world’s largest and most comprehensive developer survey.
> >
> ><https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2018/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dev-survey-2018-promotion#technology>
> >
> >C:  23%
> >C++ : 25.4%
> >C#:  34.4%
> >
> >
> >So C is falling behind year after year.  In 5 years time we might not be 
> >able to get anybody using C
> >
> >
> 
> Garbage in, garbage out.

as long as there is a compiler programmer that creates the compiler. the program is not dead. the higher the order of the programming languages, the more difficult for its compiler to maintain.

it is where the burden you want to have, in the compiler programmer, or the application programmer.

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#128014

On 20/3/2018 00:50, Real Troll wrote:
>
> C:  23%
> C++ : 25.4%
> C#:  34.4%
>
> So C is falling behind year after year.  In 5 years time we might not be
> able to get anybody using C

C is for low-level operating system stuffs. C# is for high-level 
business applications. How often would you create or modify an operating 
system?

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#128046

On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 10:35:30 AM UTC-7, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 20/3/2018 00:50, Real Troll wrote:
> >
> > C:  23%
> > C++ : 25.4%
> > C#:  34.4%
> >
> > So C is falling behind year after year.  In 5 years time we might not be
> > able to get anybody using C
> 
> C is for low-level operating system stuffs. C# is for high-level 
> business applications. How often would you create or modify an operating 
> system?
> 


Around in my neck of the woods, the businesses use Java or some variation of this programming language for CRM and ERP applications. And in some cases, even html5. I think the latter is to help the teenage wizkids who barely made it beyond the 8th grade, to like, write business software. It's the same area where the adult supervisor is some 23 year old blonde chick in a suit and tie asking her bosses "What is ERP again?"

You all might think this is funny. But a multibillion dollar a year market has been built around this nonsense. 

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#128018

On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:50:00 -0400
Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> wrote:

> Over 100,000 respondents from around the world participated this
> year, making it the world’s largest and most comprehensive developer
> survey.
> 
> <https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2018/?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dev-survey-2018-promotion#technology>
> 
> C:  23%
> C++ : 25.4%
> C#:  34.4%
> 
> 
> So C is falling behind year after year.  In 5 years time we might not
> be able to get anybody using C

Developers' Primary Operating Systems

Windows: 49.9 %
MacOS: 26.7 %
Linux-based: 23.2 %

So Microsoft emprisoned many developers in the C# environment. Does it
mean MacOS or Linux systems will be dead in 5 years?

-- 
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#128039

On 19/03/2018 18:26, GOTHIER Nathan wrote:
>
> So Microsoft emprisoned many developers in the C# environment. Does it
> mean MacOS or Linux systems will be dead in 5 years?
>

I thought they are dead aren't they?  Who is seriously using a Linux 
machine in Corporate America or Corporate Europe?

All I see is Windows desktops or laptops everywhere.  Academics and 
hobbyists might be using a Linux box but for serious work it is all Windows.

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#128041

On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:59:00 -0400
Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> wrote:

> I thought they are dead aren't they?  Who is seriously using a Linux 
> machine in Corporate America or Corporate Europe?

Hosting providers.

 
> All I see is Windows desktops or laptops everywhere.  Academics and 
> hobbyists might be using a Linux box but for serious work it is all
> Windows. 

So the entire web infrastructure is a hobby... that's interesting!

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#128045

On 19/03/2018 22:08, GOTHIER Nathan wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:59:00 -0400
> Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> wrote:
>
>> I thought they are dead aren't they?  Who is seriously using a Linux
>> machine in Corporate America or Corporate Europe?
> Hosting providers.

How is this going to help a C programmer?  How many people are employed 
by them?

>
>   
>> All I see is Windows desktops or laptops everywhere.  Academics and
>> hobbyists might be using a Linux box but for serious work it is all
>> Windows.
> So the entire web infrastructure is a hobby... that's interesting!

Well if you are talking about Web Infrastructure then clearly C# comes 
out on top.  All the jobs I have been to are asking for C# and ASP/MVC 
experience.  People hardly spends time doing anything in other 
languages.  Probably JavaScript and PhP using MySQL but for MSSQL which 
is the main database technology, C# comes out on top; For Oracle it is 
Java.  For MySQL it is php

Frankly, C has become a legacy language and if you put it on your resume 
then you are revealing your age!!.

Mr thinks so anyway.

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#128054

On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:25:00 -0400
Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> wrote:

> How is this going to help a C programmer?  How many people are
> employed by them?

Many tools used by hosting providers are implemented in C and their
authors are financed directly or indirectly (often via fundation) by
big tech companies such as Google or Microsoft.

see https://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html


> Well if you are talking about Web Infrastructure then clearly C#
> comes out on top.  All the jobs I have been to are asking for C# and
> ASP/MVC experience.  People hardly spends time doing anything in
> other languages.  Probably JavaScript and PhP using MySQL but for
> MSSQL which is the main database technology, C# comes out on top; For
> Oracle it is Java.  For MySQL it is php

All those web tools (webservers, interpreters, etc) are implemented in
plain C.


> Frankly, C has become a legacy language and if you put it on your
> resume then you are revealing your age!!.

Do you hide your sex to be filled by your employer? :-)


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On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, Real Troll wrote:
> On 19/03/2018 22:08, GOTHIER Nathan wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:59:00 -0400
> > Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I thought they are dead aren't they?  Who is seriously using a Linux
> >> machine in Corporate America or Corporate Europe?
> > Hosting providers.
> 
> How is this going to help a C programmer?  How many people are employed 
> by them?
> 
> >
> >   
> >> All I see is Windows desktops or laptops everywhere.  Academics and
> >> hobbyists might be using a Linux box but for serious work it is all
> >> Windows.
> > So the entire web infrastructure is a hobby... that's interesting!
> 
> Well if you are talking about Web Infrastructure then clearly C# comes 
> out on top.  All the jobs I have been to are asking for C# and ASP/MVC 
> experience.  People hardly spends time doing anything in other 
> languages.  Probably JavaScript and PhP using MySQL but for MSSQL which 
> is the main database technology, C# comes out on top; For Oracle it is 
> Java.  For MySQL it is php
> 
> Frankly, C has become a legacy language and if you put it on your resume 
> then you are revealing your age!!.
> 
> Mr thinks so anyway.



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If you call getting your ass *kicked hard* left and right every single day by numerous people (and completely trashing your reputation and any reason for anyone to trust anything you have to say - forever) 'trolling', then yeah... he was a good troll. I don't personally subscribe to that definition, I use another term, I call that person a total idiot.

> He's lost that ability. Probably too many bad drugs.

He's toned down all the zillions of narcissistic, BS threads he used to create but he's really not much different in the honesty dept. He just uses socks more now to create those threads. Not that there weren't already plenty of reasons to suspect this ridiculous sock as coming from Snit but this thread shows that he's slipping in this respect:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/cTXTtY57SjM/n9mXLZpIVXoJ

I was being given GPG info and help by owl and we were both pretty much ignoring Snit all the way through. So who appears, who hadn't posted in a couple of days and then only posted to that thread on that day after Snit got tired of being ignored?
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