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| Started by | Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-05-10 06:29 -0700 |
| Last post | 2017-06-05 13:50 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 364 — 31 participants |
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If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 06:29 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-10 15:42 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-10 15:36 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-10 17:23 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-10 16:40 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-10 22:22 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2017-05-13 17:15 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-13 21:13 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-13 20:40 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-13 22:30 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-13 22:01 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-14 16:20 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-15 11:53 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-15 22:21 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2017-05-13 17:24 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2017-05-14 16:10 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2017-05-15 15:54 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 06:44 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-10 16:38 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-15 12:49 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-15 15:39 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-05-15 22:03 +0800
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-15 16:50 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-15 10:02 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2017-05-18 19:05 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-19 08:57 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-15 07:14 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-16 23:11 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-17 14:26 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-17 08:40 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 18:59 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-19 09:04 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-19 07:33 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-19 18:17 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-19 09:53 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-19 19:20 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-19 10:45 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-19 11:27 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-19 11:32 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-19 12:30 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-19 13:45 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 16:22 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 07:29 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 17:40 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-10 08:48 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-10 22:24 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-10 13:29 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-10 23:27 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 09:40 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-10 19:15 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 11:22 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-10 18:06 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-10 19:19 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-10 20:19 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-10 13:21 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-10 22:16 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-10 23:31 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-10 22:50 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-11 01:15 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-11 14:15 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-11 08:17 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-11 19:00 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-11 11:49 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-11 20:51 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 20:02 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 02:01 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-13 08:54 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-13 17:45 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-14 13:14 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-23 09:45 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-23 18:07 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-26 15:41 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 16:20 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-14 19:14 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 21:54 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-15 07:01 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-05-15 05:40 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-15 19:59 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 18:56 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 09:31 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-15 06:55 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-15 10:33 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-15 10:54 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-15 12:00 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-16 05:11 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 08:24 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-19 18:43 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-20 22:06 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-26 15:54 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-27 11:06 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 19:15 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-16 12:54 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 00:12 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-17 08:15 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-17 15:46 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-17 08:57 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-17 09:45 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-17 10:09 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-17 11:37 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 07:24 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-23 09:42 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-23 10:44 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 12:16 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-12 11:49 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 15:21 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-12 15:14 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 17:04 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-12 08:27 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 05:03 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-11 14:29 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 20:04 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-14 13:27 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-11 21:56 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-11 23:27 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-12 00:26 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-12 01:16 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-12 01:35 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-12 01:58 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-12 22:36 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-12 22:19 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-12 22:06 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 02:09 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-12 22:38 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-12 17:15 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-12 15:10 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 00:02 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-15 08:41 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-13 09:11 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 00:59 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-13 00:04 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:17 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-05-13 06:37 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-13 10:29 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 18:14 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-13 14:04 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 23:44 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-05-13 18:22 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 04:49 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-05-13 20:23 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 05:40 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-05-14 06:42 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:30 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-05-16 08:19 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-18 17:22 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-18 15:00 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-18 16:20 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-18 16:33 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 15:58 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-18 16:24 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-19 09:13 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-21 17:30 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-14 12:40 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-14 00:18 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 14:45 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-14 00:08 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-14 10:51 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-14 14:32 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-14 11:37 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-14 13:40 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Manfred <invalid@invalid.add> - 2017-05-14 16:03 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-14 16:04 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-14 16:27 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-14 15:26 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 17:14 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-15 08:55 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 19:10 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-16 04:29 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-16 18:46 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-17 08:40 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-19 19:07 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-20 22:04 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-14 11:09 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 15:05 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-14 14:55 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2017-05-12 16:25 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-10 16:45 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 05:07 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 05:10 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-11 14:29 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-15 12:55 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-15 08:37 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-15 23:03 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-15 22:12 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-15 23:29 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-05-15 21:32 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 12:23 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-16 13:29 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 14:48 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Manfred <invalid@invalid.add> - 2017-05-17 00:22 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Manfred <invalid@invalid.add> - 2017-05-16 01:27 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-15 16:34 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-16 00:58 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 12:32 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-16 08:59 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 22:28 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-16 14:20 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-17 10:24 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-17 10:42 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-24 08:14 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-16 17:31 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2017-05-15 21:31 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-15 22:39 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-17 10:52 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-17 23:14 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 18:24 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 05:43 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-18 15:13 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 08:52 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-18 22:18 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-19 08:29 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-05-18 21:59 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-19 19:30 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-19 12:34 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 06:37 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-18 22:09 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-18 13:59 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-18 09:21 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-18 12:55 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-19 01:17 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-19 12:16 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-19 11:58 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-20 03:20 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-20 15:18 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-20 10:55 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-21 01:29 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-21 20:39 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 14:15 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-21 15:29 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-22 23:38 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-23 00:16 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-23 19:26 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-23 16:25 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-24 20:38 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-23 09:33 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-23 08:00 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-23 08:27 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-24 07:17 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-23 12:28 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-24 10:04 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-24 16:30 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-24 15:01 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-24 13:04 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-24 14:55 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-24 16:23 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-21 18:01 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-22 10:04 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-24 08:10 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-24 17:54 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2017-05-19 12:39 -0400
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-24 07:55 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ike Naar <ike@iceland.freeshell.org> - 2017-05-17 21:14 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-21 17:34 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-21 19:40 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-22 10:13 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 22:16 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-17 11:44 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-17 23:30 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-18 18:30 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 06:04 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-18 17:29 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 23:37 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 18:41 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-05-15 17:39 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 12:35 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-17 11:50 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 19:17 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-15 17:57 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-15 18:51 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-16 13:17 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-16 14:29 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-16 14:50 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-16 16:35 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-16 17:33 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-21 18:05 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 17:29 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-11 09:10 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 09:49 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-11 18:51 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 11:19 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-11 18:31 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-11 11:59 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 12:58 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-11 21:18 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 13:45 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-12 20:08 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 01:37 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-12 12:08 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 15:31 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 07:03 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-12 15:21 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 17:06 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-12 16:36 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 11:58 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-14 17:03 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-14 16:15 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-14 23:25 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-14 13:55 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 19:00 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-14 13:38 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 16:42 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-14 17:07 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 08:12 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-14 23:27 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-15 16:59 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-15 11:33 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-15 12:59 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 12:34 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 11:48 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-13 07:41 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> - 2017-05-12 17:38 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 01:23 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-13 08:55 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-13 13:24 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-13 14:53 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-14 17:10 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-15 12:56 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-15 07:15 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 13:49 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-11 21:57 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-11 13:11 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer "Patrick.Schluter" <Patrick.Schluter@free.fr> - 2017-05-11 22:21 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-11 13:56 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 12:42 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-11 15:44 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2017-05-11 23:13 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-12 16:16 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 12:35 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-12 11:41 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-12 17:27 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2017-05-12 10:57 -0500
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-14 17:15 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer joel.rees@gmail.com - 2017-05-12 06:55 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-15 12:35 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-16 07:41 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 21:46 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-15 21:36 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 13:44 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-05-15 14:23 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-15 14:36 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-05-15 15:27 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-15 16:21 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2017-05-16 07:47 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> - 2017-05-15 23:39 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-15 15:42 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-16 00:03 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2017-05-16 17:33 +1200
Re: If statement with initializer Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 12:03 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 14:34 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-16 14:20 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 17:37 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2017-05-16 09:10 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-16 17:26 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-16 19:28 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-16 18:53 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2017-05-16 20:17 +0100
Re: If statement with initializer scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2017-05-16 20:03 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-05-16 22:34 +0200
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-15 14:24 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-24 20:49 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer supercat@casperkitty.com - 2017-05-24 14:11 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-05-24 21:37 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-05-26 15:52 -0700
Re: If statement with initializer raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2017-06-03 10:20 +0000
Re: If statement with initializer Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2017-06-05 13:50 -0700
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 11:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lnh90r6wzl.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #109764 |
Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> writes:
> On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 1:10:59 PM UTC-3, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Thiago Adams writes:
>> > On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 10:29:40 AM UTC-3, Thiago Adams wrote:
>> >> C++ 17, has now a new if.
>> > [...]
>> > One more:
>> >
>> > Single-Quotation-Mark as a Digit Separator
>> > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3781.pdf
>> >
>> > int i = 1'000'000;
>> >
>> > What I find weird is that the position of ' is not verified.
>>
>> Verified how?
>>
>> > "An integer literal is a sequence of digits that has no period or
>> > exponent part, with optional separating single quotes that are ignored
>> > when determining its value"
>>
>> Separating every 3 digits, counting from the low-order digit, is not the
>> only possible pattern. I believe that a different convention is used in
>> India (I don't remember the details). In a context where the
>> conventional 3-digit grouping is desirable, any deviation should be
>> reasonably obvious to the reader.
>>
>> And grouping by 4 digits is likely to be common for hexadecimal and
>> binary.
>>
>> (I personally wish that the syntax had used underscores, but that was
>> precluded by C++ user-defined literals.)
>
> Yes, 3-digit grouping.
> I guess the motivation was avoid mistakes.
>
> If is just to see better, why not give the job for text editors?
> They can create some distinction on rendering.
Not everyone uses highlighting text editors.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 12:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <303d9663-9bb1-4fe3-b4bb-8231bf6cc1b9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109772 |
On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 11:59:21 AM UTC-7, Keith Thompson wrote: > Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> writes: > > On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 1:10:59 PM UTC-3, Keith Thompson wrote: > >> Thiago Adams writes: > >> > On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 10:29:40 AM UTC-3, Thiago Adams wrote: > >> >> C++ 17, has now a new if. > >> > [...] > >> > One more: > >> > > >> > Single-Quotation-Mark as a Digit Separator > >> > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3781.pdf > >> > > >> > int i = 1'000'000; > >> > > >> > What I find weird is that the position of ' is not verified. > >> > >> Verified how? > >> > >> > "An integer literal is a sequence of digits that has no period or > >> > exponent part, with optional separating single quotes that are ignored > >> > when determining its value" > >> > >> Separating every 3 digits, counting from the low-order digit, is not the > >> only possible pattern. I believe that a different convention is used in > >> India (I don't remember the details). In a context where the > >> conventional 3-digit grouping is desirable, any deviation should be > >> reasonably obvious to the reader. > >> > >> And grouping by 4 digits is likely to be common for hexadecimal and > >> binary. > >> > >> (I personally wish that the syntax had used underscores, but that was > >> precluded by C++ user-defined literals.) > > > > Yes, 3-digit grouping. > > I guess the motivation was avoid mistakes. > > > > If is just to see better, why not give the job for text editors? > > They can create some distinction on rendering. > > Not everyone uses highlighting text editors. A highlighting editor for C is essentially useless unless it can recognize and highlight typedef names. That seems to be something it would be possible to do. But I know of no editor that does.
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| From | bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 21:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <%F3RA.63702$qS3.32848@fx29.am4> |
| In reply to | #109776 |
On 11/05/2017 20:58, David Kleinecke wrote: > On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 11:59:21 AM UTC-7, Keith Thompson wrote: >> Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> writes: >>> On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 1:10:59 PM UTC-3, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>> Thiago Adams writes: >>>>> On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 10:29:40 AM UTC-3, Thiago Adams wrote: >>>>>> C++ 17, has now a new if. >>>>> [...] >>>>> One more: >>>>> >>>>> Single-Quotation-Mark as a Digit Separator >>>>> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3781.pdf >>>>> >>>>> int i = 1'000'000; >>>>> >>>>> What I find weird is that the position of ' is not verified. >>>> >>>> Verified how? >>>> >>>>> "An integer literal is a sequence of digits that has no period or >>>>> exponent part, with optional separating single quotes that are ignored >>>>> when determining its value" >>>> >>>> Separating every 3 digits, counting from the low-order digit, is not the >>>> only possible pattern. I believe that a different convention is used in >>>> India (I don't remember the details). In a context where the >>>> conventional 3-digit grouping is desirable, any deviation should be >>>> reasonably obvious to the reader. >>>> >>>> And grouping by 4 digits is likely to be common for hexadecimal and >>>> binary. >>>> >>>> (I personally wish that the syntax had used underscores, but that was >>>> precluded by C++ user-defined literals.) >>> >>> Yes, 3-digit grouping. >>> I guess the motivation was avoid mistakes. >>> >>> If is just to see better, why not give the job for text editors? >>> They can create some distinction on rendering. >> >> Not everyone uses highlighting text editors. > > A highlighting editor for C is essentially useless unless > it can recognize and highlight typedef names. That seems to > be something it would be possible to do. But I know of no > editor that does. I would have thought that it needed to recognise and expand macros too. But I'm not sure that's possible because that can depend on conditional code. And not all conditions are known because some are external so the editor won't know about them. (They might be in a header the editor has no access to, or it hasn't been created yet, or they are a compiler option.) -- bartc
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| From | Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-11 13:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <61312604-0335-4621-b50c-d174ce73fa75@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109776 |
On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 4:58:15 PM UTC-3, David Kleinecke wrote: [...] > A highlighting editor for C is essentially useless unless > it can recognize and highlight typedef names. That seems to > be something it would be possible to do. But I know of no > editor that does. Yes they do this and much more.
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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 20:08 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <enl8scF9o0pU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #109776 |
On 05/12/17 07:58 AM, David Kleinecke wrote: > > A highlighting editor for C is essentially useless unless > it can recognize and highlight typedef names. That seems to > be something it would be possible to do. But I know of no > editor that does. You haven't looked very hard then! -- Ian
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 01:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <59a5aad7-11a4-41ab-b0a4-a7bc56b121b1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109808 |
On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 9:08:53 AM UTC+1, Ian Collins wrote: > On 05/12/17 07:58 AM, David Kleinecke wrote: > > > > A highlighting editor for C is essentially useless unless > > it can recognize and highlight typedef names. That seems to > > be something it would be possible to do. But I know of no > > editor that does. > > You haven't looked very hard then! > XCode's editor does a full semantic pass over C++ source. You even have smart autocomplete - type structure variable, and dot, and a list of members pops up.
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| From | bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 12:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <dIgRA.34784$2i3.5432@fx38.am4> |
| In reply to | #109810 |
On 12/05/2017 09:37, Malcolm McLean wrote: > On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 9:08:53 AM UTC+1, Ian Collins wrote: >> On 05/12/17 07:58 AM, David Kleinecke wrote: >>> >>> A highlighting editor for C is essentially useless unless >>> it can recognize and highlight typedef names. That seems to >>> be something it would be possible to do. But I know of no >>> editor that does. >> >> You haven't looked very hard then! >> > XCode's editor does a full semantic pass over C++ source. > You even have smart autocomplete - type structure variable, > and dot, and a list of members pops up. That's XCode. What about a thousand other products that don't do that? You can't decide whether or not to add a language feature based on the capabilities of a handful of smart editors. That fact is that if I upload any C code to pastebin or github now, they won't insert separators in my numbers, even if the tool I use myself does so (it doesn't). Sometime this is about making things easier for other people. If every shared fragment of C also came with a working XCode renderer so everyone could view the code in the same way, that would be great. But that isn't yet the case. You would hope however that every text viewer could show ASCII. -- bartc
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 15:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <of4d98$bj8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #109825 |
On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote: > On 12/05/2017 09:37, Malcolm McLean wrote: >> On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 9:08:53 AM UTC+1, Ian Collins wrote: >>> On 05/12/17 07:58 AM, David Kleinecke wrote: >>>> >>>> A highlighting editor for C is essentially useless unless >>>> it can recognize and highlight typedef names. That seems to >>>> be something it would be possible to do. But I know of no >>>> editor that does. >>> >>> You haven't looked very hard then! >>> >> XCode's editor does a full semantic pass over C++ source. >> You even have smart autocomplete - type structure variable, >> and dot, and a list of members pops up. > > That's XCode. > > What about a thousand other products that don't do that? What about the dozens of other editors that /do/ have something similar? The ones that most professional programmers use all the time (Eclipse, MSVS, Netbeans, emacs, vim, CLion, jedit, programmer's notepad, notepad++, etc.) have excellent C syntax highlighting. I can't tell you off-hand if they /all/ highlight typedef names, but I expect they do. > > You can't decide whether or not to add a language feature based on the > capabilities of a handful of smart editors. "Add a language feature"? How long has C had typedef? 40 years? And if you are working as a programmer and don't have a decent editor, it is /your/ fault. > > That fact is that if I upload any C code to pastebin or github now, they > won't insert separators in my numbers, even if the tool I use myself > does so (it doesn't). I believe you have got your Usenet sub-threads mixed up. The issue here is David K's absurd idea that there are no editors that highlight typedef names. Syntax highlighting of new features /is/ an issue - you are right there. In particular, when adding a new language feature it is helpful if existing popular editors do not mark it as a syntax error. If ' were added to C as a digit separator, it would probably not take long before leading editors and websites accepted it - after all, they accept it in C++. > > Sometime this is about making things easier for other people. If every > shared fragment of C also came with a working XCode renderer so everyone > could view the code in the same way, that would be great. But that isn't > yet the case. > > You would hope however that every text viewer could show ASCII. > Do you know of any that can't?
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 07:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <67639939-6c69-4741-95de-84ed6a62adeb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109830 |
On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 2:31:34 PM UTC+1, David Brown wrote: > > And if you are working as a programmer and don't have a decent editor, > it is /your/ fault. > Not always. For example I'm paying around with someone else's C interpreter at the moment (for a new language). So I have to enter C source for it to interpret somehow, which is easiest as embedded string literals. Needless to say, the editor won't offer editing support for code in strings. > > > > That fact is that if I upload any C code to pastebin or github now, they > > won't insert separators in my numbers, even if the tool I use myself > > does so (it doesn't). > Syntax highlighting of new features /is/ an issue - you are right there. > In particular, when adding a new language feature it is helpful if > existing popular editors do not mark it as a syntax error. > That's a real problem. So too when there's a bug in the editor's parser, as happens a bit with XCode.
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| From | bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 15:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wxjRA.10626$rh7.5193@fx46.am4> |
| In reply to | #109830 |
On 12/05/2017 14:31, David Brown wrote:
> On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote:
>> You would hope however that every text viewer could show ASCII.
>>
>
> Do you know of any that can't?
I mention that because I've used displays that were upper case, so a..z,
{ and }, and some punctuation would be missing. A bit of a problem for C
source.
They've always managed "$" however.
--
bartc
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 17:06 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <of4ir3$8gf$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #109834 |
On 12/05/17 16:21, bartc wrote:
> On 12/05/2017 14:31, David Brown wrote:
>> On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote:
>
>>> You would hope however that every text viewer could show ASCII.
>>>
>>
>> Do you know of any that can't?
>
> I mention that because I've used displays that were upper case, so a..z,
> { and }, and some punctuation would be missing. A bit of a problem for C
> source.
From what century?
I have used displays that could not use colour syntax highlighting
because they were black and white - but I don't consider it a big
problem these days.
>
> They've always managed "$" however.
>
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| From | bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 16:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ZDkRA.55$8D3.4@fx11.am4> |
| In reply to | #109838 |
On 12/05/2017 16:06, David Brown wrote:
> On 12/05/17 16:21, bartc wrote:
>> On 12/05/2017 14:31, David Brown wrote:
>>> On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote:
>>
>>>> You would hope however that every text viewer could show ASCII.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you know of any that can't?
>>
>> I mention that because I've used displays that were upper case, so a..z,
>> { and }, and some punctuation would be missing. A bit of a problem for C
>> source.
>
> From what century?
Twentieth. More recently than when C was created anyway. In 1976 I was
using ASR33s for example.
Ancient stuff but then people are always going on about some feature of
C being that way otherwise it wouldn't work on hardware that's been
obsolete for decades.
> I have used displays that could not use colour syntax highlighting
> because they were black and white - but I don't consider it a big
> problem these days.
That must have been a binary black and white video board I guess; the
display itself was probably monochrome. (I used to watch snooker on my
9" green-screen NEC monitor and it was easy to see which ball was which.)
--
bartc
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| From | David Kleinecke <dkleinecke@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-12 11:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <29771a15-b754-4d32-abcb-40433ad9be92@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #109830 |
On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 6:31:34 AM UTC-7, David Brown wrote: > On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote: > I believe you have got your Usenet sub-threads mixed up. The issue here > is David K's absurd idea that there are no editors that highlight > typedef names. You are treating me as having far too much poser. All I said was I didn't know of any. That is your cue to make me better informed. I don't pretend to know everything. All I knew about XCode was that it was an Apple-oriented product. I still don't take Apple seriously.
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 17:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <of9rde$1l5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #109852 |
On 12/05/17 20:58, David Kleinecke wrote: > On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 6:31:34 AM UTC-7, David Brown wrote: >> On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote: > >> I believe you have got your Usenet sub-threads mixed up. The issue here >> is David K's absurd idea that there are no editors that highlight >> typedef names. > > You are treating me as having far too much poser. All I > said was I didn't know of any. > Fair enough. I apologise for being unnecessarily rude. > That is your cue to make me better informed. I and others have already given suggestions of some very popular free editors that highlight typedefs - I hope that is sufficient, since discussions of the pros and cons of different editors and IDE's is off-topic here. Suffice to say that most modern IDE's or editors that parse C syntax will be able to highlight typedefs. > I don't pretend > to know everything. All I knew about XCode was that it was an > Apple-oriented product. I still don't take Apple seriously. > XCode is, AFAIK, an IDE for Apple MacOS. I don't use Macs myself so I can't tell you much about it.
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| From | bartc <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 16:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2w_RA.104915$dV7.4789@fx35.am4> |
| In reply to | #109956 |
On 14/05/2017 16:03, David Brown wrote: > On 12/05/17 20:58, David Kleinecke wrote: >> On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 6:31:34 AM UTC-7, David Brown wrote: >>> On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote: >> >>> I believe you have got your Usenet sub-threads mixed up. The issue here >>> is David K's absurd idea that there are no editors that highlight >>> typedef names. >> >> You are treating me as having far too much poser. All I >> said was I didn't know of any. >> > > Fair enough. I apologise for being unnecessarily rude. > >> That is your cue to make me better informed. > > I and others have already given suggestions of some very popular free > editors that highlight typedefs - I hope that is sufficient, since > discussions of the pros and cons of different editors and IDE's is > off-topic here. Suffice to say that most modern IDE's or editors that > parse C syntax will be able to highlight typedefs. How do you get github to highlight typedefs? Assuming it manages it, how will it get access to the nested include file where the typedef is actually defined? Or to the compile-time macros that specify whether something should be a typedef? Where does it look to find the standard C headers? As these are not usually part of a project. The general problem is quite difficult I think, and involves doing a full parse of source code as though it was being compiled. But it can also be specific to a compiler. -- bartc
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 23:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ofahqq$qbt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #109963 |
On 14/05/17 17:15, bartc wrote: > On 14/05/2017 16:03, David Brown wrote: >> On 12/05/17 20:58, David Kleinecke wrote: >>> On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 6:31:34 AM UTC-7, David Brown wrote: >>>> On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote: >>> >>>> I believe you have got your Usenet sub-threads mixed up. The issue >>>> here >>>> is David K's absurd idea that there are no editors that highlight >>>> typedef names. >>> >>> You are treating me as having far too much poser. All I >>> said was I didn't know of any. >>> >> >> Fair enough. I apologise for being unnecessarily rude. >> >>> That is your cue to make me better informed. >> >> I and others have already given suggestions of some very popular free >> editors that highlight typedefs - I hope that is sufficient, since >> discussions of the pros and cons of different editors and IDE's is >> off-topic here. Suffice to say that most modern IDE's or editors that >> parse C syntax will be able to highlight typedefs. > > How do you get github to highlight typedefs? I don't know - I haven't tried. > > Assuming it manages it, how will it get access to the nested include > file where the typedef is actually defined? Or to the compile-time > macros that specify whether something should be a typedef? Where does it > look to find the standard C headers? As these are not usually part of a > project. If an editor, IDE, or other syntax highligher cannot get access to all the headers involved, along with known pre-defined macros for the C implementation, then at least some aspects of the syntax highlighting are going to be limited. But for editing source code, at least for serious work, it is rarely a problem to have a decent IDE or editor that /can/ see all the include files, and can be appropriately configured to match the compilation environment. I can't tell you if /all/ such tools highlight typedefs - but I know that many do, and that even without that one feature, the syntax highlighting, online error indications, auto-completions, and other tools can save a great deal of effort. > > The general problem is quite difficult I think, and involves doing a > full parse of source code as though it was being compiled. But it can > also be specific to a compiler. > Yes, it involves a good bit of work. It makes sense for a large programmers' editor, but not for a simple highlighter.
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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 13:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ln60h35faq.fsf@kst-u.example.com> |
| In reply to | #109956 |
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
[...]
> I and others have already given suggestions of some very popular free
> editors that highlight typedefs - I hope that is sufficient, since
> discussions of the pros and cons of different editors and IDE's is
> off-topic here. Suffice to say that most modern IDE's or editors that
> parse C syntax will be able to highlight typedefs.
I don't generally use syntax highlighting myself, but I tried several
editors that do it (gvim, emacs, jedit, gedit). When editing a
source file containing:
typedef int Integer;
Integer x = 42;
int n = 100;
emacs and gvim both highlight "Integer" and "int" in the same way --
and continue to do so if the typedef is commented out. jedit and
gedit don't highlight "Integer" at all. (It's entirely possible
there are some settings I don't know about that would affect this
behavior.)
My guess is that emacs and gvim use some kind of heuristic to guess that
"Integer" is probably a type name, rather than processing the typedef
declaration. Such a heuristic probably works well enough, given that
the consequences of guessing wrong are not terribly serious.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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| From | Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-15 19:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <87r2zq3sqk.fsf@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #109979 |
Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes: > My guess is that emacs and gvim use some kind of heuristic to guess that > "Integer" is probably a type name, rather than processing the typedef > declaration. I can't speak to gvim, but that's exactly what emacs does.
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| From | raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 13:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <59185d9e.5121906@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #109830 |
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote: > On 12/05/17 13:08, bartc wrote: > > You can't decide whether or not to add a language feature based on the > > capabilities of a handful of smart editors. > > "Add a language feature"? How long has C had typedef? 40 years? > > And if you are working as a programmer and don't have a decent editor, > it is /your/ fault. Erm. Sometimes it's your employer's fault. We're not all so wealthy that we can afford to _choose_ our boss. Richard
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| From | GOTHIER Nathan <nathan.gothier@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-05-14 16:42 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20170514164221.769745dcccf86cb56088cca0@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #109946 |
On Sun, 14 May 2017 13:38:12 GMT raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) wrote: > We're not all so wealthy that we can afford to _choose_ our boss. Let me guess your boss bought your services at the slave bazaar. :o) Anyway in my view, vi is a minimal decent editor to write code or documentation.
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