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Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?

Started byBlue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com>
First post2023-01-22 14:28 -0500
Last post2023-01-26 12:48 -0600
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  Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 14:28 -0500
    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 20:56 +0100
      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 15:17 -0500
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 05:25 +0100
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 09:06 -0500
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:14 +0100
              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 08:42 -0800
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 21:27 +0100
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:03 -0800
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:24 -0800
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 14:03 -0800
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:52 -0500
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 13:59 +0100
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-01-23 17:57 +0000
              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 12:08 -0800
              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:49 -0500
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 14:59 -0800
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 18:20 -0500
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 15:39 -0800
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 19:18 -0500
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-01-23 20:10 -0500
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2023-01-26 09:04 -0700
    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-22 19:56 +0000
      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 15:26 -0500
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-22 22:06 +0000
    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 11:59 -0800
      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 15:27 -0500
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 12:31 -0800
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 12:33 -0800
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 15:34 -0500
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 12:45 -0800
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 13:18 -0800
              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 13:38 -0800
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 13:30 -0800
              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:17 -0600
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-23 20:31 +0000
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-01-24 00:31 +0000
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-24 00:44 +0000
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 19:48 -0500
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 07:23 -0800
      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-03 20:41 +0000
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-02-04 17:32 -0800
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-02-05 06:35 -0800
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 08:32 -0800
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 08:41 -0800
              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 08:49 -0800
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 08:54 -0800
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-02-05 08:28 -0800
    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-01-22 14:17 -0800
    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-01-22 23:35 +0000
      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Simon.Says.Yes@gfdedsed.hgtgfrfd - 2023-01-23 00:50 +0000
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 19:58 -0500
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Simon.Says.Yes@gfdedsed.hgtgfrfd - 2023-01-23 01:33 +0000
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-01-23 02:39 +0000
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-01-22 17:03 -0800
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Simon.Says.Yes@gfdedsed.hgtgfrfd - 2023-01-23 01:30 +0000
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-01-22 21:05 -0500
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-23 02:44 +0000
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-01-23 03:21 -0500
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-23 11:15 +0100
              PGP signatures and BASE64 posts (Was : Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?) Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 12:47 +0000
                Re: PGP signatures and BASE64 posts (Was : Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-23 14:48 +0100
                  Re: PGP signatures and BASE64 posts (Was : Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-01-23 16:52 +0300
              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 09:19 -0500
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-23 17:45 +0100
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 18:09 -0500
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-23 23:44 +0000
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 19:24 -0500
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 16:49 -0800
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-24 13:04 +0000
                          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 17:19 -0500
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 14:33 -0800
                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-01-26 18:28 +0000
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-26 18:44 +0000
                                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 23:42 +0300
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 11:56 -0800
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-26 20:37 +0000
                                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 23:37 +0300
                                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-28 22:27 +0000
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-01-26 18:52 -0500
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-25 00:33 +0000
                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 17:51 -0800
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-25 11:03 +0100
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-24 15:02 +0100
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 17:24 -0500
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 14:36 -0800
                          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-25 00:21 +0100
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 15:28 -0800
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 06:43 -0800
                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-25 15:56 +0100
                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-25 15:08 +0000
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-01-25 07:56 -0800
                                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-01-25 22:48 +0200
                                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? bart c <bart4858@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 13:50 -0800
                                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-27 11:46 -0600
                                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-28 13:39 +0100
                                          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 11:42 -0600
                                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 12:15 -0800
                                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-28 23:24 -0600
                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 12:10 -0800
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 12:12 -0800
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 12:05 -0800
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 13:46 -0800
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-01-23 20:06 -0500
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:11 -0800
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-01-25 09:57 +0200
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-01-25 14:08 -0500
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 22:05 +0000
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 18:15 -0500
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 15:36 -0800
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 19:43 -0500
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 16:56 -0800
                          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 20:12 -0500
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:45 -0800
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 16:58 -0800
                          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 17:02 -0800
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-24 15:15 +0100
                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 14:35 +0000
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-24 18:32 +0100
                          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2023-01-25 22:56 +0000
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 20:09 -0500
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-01-25 09:53 +0200
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-01-25 00:13 -0800
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-01-25 20:41 +0200
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-01-25 14:08 -0500
                          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 11:35 -0800
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-26 00:18 +0100
                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 15:33 -0800
                              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-01-29 01:08 +0200
                                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-01-29 13:53 -0800
                            Apology to Öö Tiib (was Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 15:31 -0800
                              Re: Apology to Öö Tiib (was Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?) Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-01-25 23:17 -0800
                              A comment about dogwhistles Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-01-29 13:47 -0800
                                Re: A comment about dogwhistles Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-03-03 15:05 +0200
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-01-26 15:16 +0300
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 10:37 -0800
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2023-01-29 20:57 -0700
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-29 23:04 -0600
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-22 21:09 -0800
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-23 02:41 +0000
    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-01-23 11:35 +0300
    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Opus <ifonly@youknew.org> - 2023-01-23 19:22 +0100
      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 18:18 -0500
        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 16:57 -0800
          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 18:23 -0600
            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 20:35 -0500
              Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 21:37 -0600
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2023-01-25 11:49 +0300
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 12:32 -0600
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-25 18:56 +0000
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-01-25 18:45 +0000
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 13:39 -0600
                Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 17:07 -0500
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 17:54 -0600
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-26 00:04 +0000
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 19:27 -0600
                  Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 02:50 -0800
                    Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 03:07 -0800
                      Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 04:34 -0800
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 04:56 -0800
                          Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 05:18 -0800
                            Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 05:23 -0800
                        Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2023-01-26 12:48 -0600

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#169061 — Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C

FromBlue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-25 20:09 -0500
SubjectRe: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C
Message-ID<tqsjs9$t13e$1@bluemanedhawk.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#169055
On 1/25/23 17:56, Jim Jackson wrote:
> I admire your perseverance in getting so far!!!! I kill filed him a
> while ago - I seriously doubt he will have anything useful to say.

​Bruh

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#169028

FromPhil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org>
Date2023-01-25 09:53 +0200
Message-ID<878rhrkq26.fsf@zotaspaz.fatphil.org>
In reply to#168937
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
> Apparently "octoctal" is an extremely obscure term for an encoding that
> is almost universally called base64.  Did you seriously expect your
> readers to know that, or were you just trying to appear clever at the
> expense of actually communicating?

It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great
offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and
you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular
if you already know who the ADL are.

Phil
-- 
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
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#169030

FromÖö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee>
Date2023-01-25 00:13 -0800
Message-ID<6df94312-1b91-438a-9d72-0ab20892438en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#169028
On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 09:54:07 UTC+2, Phil Carmody wrote:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.T...@gmail.com> writes: 
> > Apparently "octoctal" is an extremely obscure term for an encoding that 
> > is almost universally called base64. Did you seriously expect your 
> > readers to know that, or were you just trying to appear clever at the 
> > expense of actually communicating? 
> 
> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great 
> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and 
> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular 
> if you already know who the ADL are. 

You use acronym of three common letters. At least Wikipedia shows
many <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADL> with none relation to
software development, JSON, C. IOW ... say again, didn't parse. 
   

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#169043

FromPhil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org>
Date2023-01-25 20:41 +0200
Message-ID<877cxajw2z.fsf@zotaspaz.fatphil.org>
In reply to#169030
Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:
> On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 09:54:07 UTC+2, Phil Carmody wrote:
>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.T...@gmail.com> writes: 
>> > Apparently "octoctal" is an extremely obscure term for an encoding that 
>> > is almost universally called base64. Did you seriously expect your 
>> > readers to know that, or were you just trying to appear clever at the 
>> > expense of actually communicating? 
>> 
>> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great 
>> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and 
>> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular 
>> if you already know who the ADL are. 
>
> You use acronym of three common letters. At least Wikipedia shows
> many <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADL> with none relation to
> software development, JSON, C. IOW ... say again, didn't parse. 

Why would something about dog-whistles be anything to do with
software development, JSON, or C? Have you not noticed that we've
veered completely off-topic for the newsgroup?

Why didn't you simply follow the directions and look for the
explaination in the headers - everything you need is already
there?

Phil
-- 
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
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#169047

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2023-01-25 14:08 -0500
Message-ID<tqrunv$pf5a$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#169043
On 1/25/23 13:41, Phil Carmody wrote:
> Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:
>> On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 09:54:07 UTC+2, Phil Carmody wrote:
...
>>> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great
>>> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and
>>> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular if
>>> you already know who the ADL are. 
>>
>> You use acronym of three common letters. At least Wikipedia shows
>> many <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADL> with none relation to
>> software development, JSON, C. IOW ... say again, didn't parse. 
>
> Why would something about dog-whistles be anything to do with
> software development, JSON, or C? Have you not noticed that we've
> veered completely off-topic for the newsgroup?
>
> Why didn't you simply follow the directions and look for the
> explaination in the headers - everything you need is already
> there?

I'm a bit confused. He's wondering which ADL you're referring to, and
why. So am I. How would examining the headers help answer that question?
That abbreviation appears nowhere in the headers that I looked at.

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#169048

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-25 11:35 -0800
Message-ID<87lelqiezy.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#169047
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
> On 1/25/23 13:41, Phil Carmody wrote:
>> Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:
>>> On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 09:54:07 UTC+2, Phil Carmody wrote:
> ...
>>>> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great
>>>> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and
>>>> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular if
>>>> you already know who the ADL are. 
>>>
>>> You use acronym of three common letters. At least Wikipedia shows
>>> many <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADL> with none relation to
>>> software development, JSON, C. IOW ... say again, didn't parse. 
>>
>> Why would something about dog-whistles be anything to do with
>> software development, JSON, or C? Have you not noticed that we've
>> veered completely off-topic for the newsgroup?
>>
>> Why didn't you simply follow the directions and look for the
>> explaination in the headers - everything you need is already
>> there?
>
> I'm a bit confused. He's wondering which ADL you're referring to, and
> why. So am I. How would examining the headers help answer that question?
> That abbreviation appears nowhere in the headers that I looked at.

Öö is referring to the Anti-Defamation League.  He's insinuating that
since the word "octoctal" contains two occurrences of the number 8, it's
anti-semitic ("88" is a common neo-Nazi symbol, for reasons I will not
explain here).

Öö is making an offensive and unfounded accusation for which he should
apologize.  (It's possible he intended it as a joke.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for XCOM Labs
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#169056

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2023-01-26 00:18 +0100
Message-ID<tqsdcs$rpkn$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#169048
On 25/01/2023 20:35, Keith Thompson wrote:
> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>> On 1/25/23 13:41, Phil Carmody wrote:
>>> Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:
>>>> On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 09:54:07 UTC+2, Phil Carmody wrote:
>> ...
>>>>> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great
>>>>> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and
>>>>> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular if
>>>>> you already know who the ADL are.
>>>>
>>>> You use acronym of three common letters. At least Wikipedia shows
>>>> many <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADL> with none relation to
>>>> software development, JSON, C. IOW ... say again, didn't parse.
>>>
>>> Why would something about dog-whistles be anything to do with
>>> software development, JSON, or C? Have you not noticed that we've
>>> veered completely off-topic for the newsgroup?
>>>
>>> Why didn't you simply follow the directions and look for the
>>> explaination in the headers - everything you need is already
>>> there?
>>
>> I'm a bit confused. He's wondering which ADL you're referring to, and
>> why. So am I. How would examining the headers help answer that question?
>> That abbreviation appears nowhere in the headers that I looked at.
> 
> Öö is referring to the Anti-Defamation League.  He's insinuating that
> since the word "octoctal" contains two occurrences of the number 8, it's
> anti-semitic ("88" is a common neo-Nazi symbol, for reasons I will not
> explain here).
> 
> Öö is making an offensive and unfounded accusation for which he should
> apologize.  (It's possible he intended it as a joke.)
> 

Now /I/ am confused - did you mean /Phil/ was referring to the 
Anti-Defamation League?  Öö simply wrote that he couldn't understand 
Phil's post.

James, to see Phil's hint in the headers, look at the full headers for 
Phil's post (ctrl-U in Thunderbird will give you it).  There is an 
"X-Spoiler:" header.

I think Phil's insinuations are too far-fetched and obscured to be 
particularly offensive - perhaps he was trying to mock the daftest of 
conspiracy theorists for some reason.  It made as much sense as if he'd 
suggested "octoctal" was a reference to two fat ladies.

(I'm guessing Bart will understand that reference, but I'm not sure how 
many others will.)


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#169058

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-25 15:33 -0800
Message-ID<87cz72i3zg.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#169056
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
[...]
> Now /I/ am confused - did you mean /Phil/ was referring to the
> Anti-Defamation League?  Öö simply wrote that he couldn't understand 
> Phil's post.

Argh!  You're absolutely right, and it was careless of me to accuse Öö.
Thank you for catching that.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for XCOM Labs
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#169089

FromPhil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org>
Date2023-01-29 01:08 +0200
Message-ID<87y1pmi7f1.fsf@zotaspaz.fatphil.org>
In reply to#169056
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> I think Phil's insinuations are too far-fetched and obscured to be
> particularly offensive - perhaps he was trying to mock the daftest of
> conspiracy theorists for some reason.  It made as much sense as if
> he'd suggested "octoctal" was a reference to two fat ladies.

You get it.

And there was no accusation of any individual. I was making a comment
about an intrinsic property of a sequence of characters, nothing more.

Phil
-- 
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
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#169114

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2023-01-29 13:53 -0800
Message-ID<86h6w9f1nt.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#169089
Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> writes:

> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
>
>> I think Phil's insinuations are too far-fetched and obscured to be
>> particularly offensive - perhaps he was trying to mock the daftest of
>> conspiracy theorists for some reason.  It made as much sense as if
>> he'd suggested "octoctal" was a reference to two fat ladies.
>
> You get it.
>
> And there was no accusation of any individual.  I was making a comment
> about an intrinsic property of a sequence of characters, nothing more.

I understand (at least I think I do) the point you're trying to
make, and I think the point is an important one to make.

However, I feel obliged to point out that the property here is
not intrinsic to a sequence of characters, but depends on who the
recipients are.  It is a question of fact, but the facts depend
on who the listeners are as well as on what words are used.

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#169057 — Apology to Öö Tiib (was Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?)

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-25 15:31 -0800
SubjectApology to Öö Tiib (was Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?)
Message-ID<87h6wei42x.fsf_-_@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#169048
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>> On 1/25/23 13:41, Phil Carmody wrote:
>>> Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> writes:
>>>> On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 09:54:07 UTC+2, Phil Carmody wrote:
>> ...
>>>>> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great
>>>>> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and
>>>>> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular if
>>>>> you already know who the ADL are. 
>>>>
>>>> You use acronym of three common letters. At least Wikipedia shows
>>>> many <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADL> with none relation to
>>>> software development, JSON, C. IOW ... say again, didn't parse. 
>>>
>>> Why would something about dog-whistles be anything to do with
>>> software development, JSON, or C? Have you not noticed that we've
>>> veered completely off-topic for the newsgroup?
>>>
>>> Why didn't you simply follow the directions and look for the
>>> explaination in the headers - everything you need is already
>>> there?
>>
>> I'm a bit confused. He's wondering which ADL you're referring to, and
>> why. So am I. How would examining the headers help answer that question?
>> That abbreviation appears nowhere in the headers that I looked at.
>
> Öö is referring to the Anti-Defamation League.  He's insinuating that
> since the word "octoctal" contains two occurrences of the number 8, it's
> anti-semitic ("88" is a common neo-Nazi symbol, for reasons I will not
> explain here).
>
> Öö is making an offensive and unfounded accusation for which he should
> apologize.  (It's possible he intended it as a joke.)

Öö Tiib, please accept my sincere apologies.  It was Phil Carmody, not
you, who insinuated that "octoctal" is a neo-Nazi dogwhistle.  I should
have checked the headers more carefully.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for XCOM Labs
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#169063 — Re: Apology to Öö Tiib (was Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?)

FromÖö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee>
Date2023-01-25 23:17 -0800
SubjectRe: Apology to Öö Tiib (was Re: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?)
Message-ID<9fb8ecfe-1666-4a7c-9623-0338c2bb13dcn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#169057
On Thursday, 26 January 2023 at 01:31:48 UTC+2, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.T...@gmail.com> writes: 
> > James Kuyper <james...@alumni.caltech.edu> writes: 
> >> On 1/25/23 13:41, Phil Carmody wrote: 
> >>> Öö Tiib <oot...@hot.ee> writes: 
> >>>> On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 09:54:07 UTC+2, Phil Carmody wrote: 
> >> ... 
> >>>>> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great 
> >>>>> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and 
> >>>>> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular if 
> >>>>> you already know who the ADL are. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> You use acronym of three common letters. At least Wikipedia shows 
> >>>> many <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADL> with none relation to 
> >>>> software development, JSON, C. IOW ... say again, didn't parse. 
> >>> 
> >>> Why would something about dog-whistles be anything to do with 
> >>> software development, JSON, or C? Have you not noticed that we've 
> >>> veered completely off-topic for the newsgroup? 
> >>> 
> >>> Why didn't you simply follow the directions and look for the 
> >>> explaination in the headers - everything you need is already 
> >>> there? 
> >> 
> >> I'm a bit confused. He's wondering which ADL you're referring to, and 
> >> why. So am I. How would examining the headers help answer that question? 
> >> That abbreviation appears nowhere in the headers that I looked at. 
> > 
> > Öö is referring to the Anti-Defamation League. He's insinuating that 
> > since the word "octoctal" contains two occurrences of the number 8, it's 
> > anti-semitic ("88" is a common neo-Nazi symbol, for reasons I will not 
> > explain here). 
> > 
> > Öö is making an offensive and unfounded accusation for which he should 
> > apologize. (It's possible he intended it as a joke.)
> Öö Tiib, please accept my sincere apologies. It was Phil Carmody, not 
> you, who insinuated that "octoctal" is a neo-Nazi dogwhistle. I should 
> have checked the headers more carefully.
> -- 
Oh, no problem. I was just sincerely puzzled what it was about.  

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#169111 — A comment about dogwhistles

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2023-01-29 13:47 -0800
SubjectA comment about dogwhistles
Message-ID<86lellf1xx.fsf_-_@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#169057
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

[...]

> It was Phil Carmody [...] who insinuated that "octoctal" is a
> neo-Nazi dogwhistle.

I think it's important to distinguish between saying a particular
word is /heard/ by some (or many) people as a dogwhistle, and
saying that a given speaker who used the word /intended to give/
a dogwhistle.

I don't know what Phil was thinking when he made his comment, but
I think we shouldn't assume he meant one of these alternatives
when he may have meant only the other.

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#169456 — Re: A comment about dogwhistles

FromPhil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org>
Date2023-03-03 15:05 +0200
SubjectRe: A comment about dogwhistles
Message-ID<87r0u6kmtb.fsf@zotaspaz.fatphil.org>
In reply to#169111
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> It was Phil Carmody [...] who insinuated that "octoctal" is a
>> neo-Nazi dogwhistle.
>
> I think it's important to distinguish between saying a particular
> word is /heard/ by some (or many) people as a dogwhistle, and
> saying that a given speaker who used the word /intended to give/
> a dogwhistle.
>
> I don't know what Phil was thinking when he made his comment, but
> I think we shouldn't assume he meant one of these alternatives
> when he may have meant only the other.

Someone walked into the thread carrying an ornate awl he was very proud of.
All I said was "nice shiv".

Phil
-- 
We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have
gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast
aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization.
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#169066

FromAnton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com>
Date2023-01-26 15:16 +0300
Message-ID<20230126151642.38a41ca86152d0ae7a8c6dcf@g{oogle}mail.com>
In reply to#169048
Keith Thompson:

> "88" is a common neo-Nazi symbol, for reasons I will not
> explain here).

That explains a video from the surrender of the Mariupol
garrison to the Russian troops, where I did not understand
the following dialoge between a surrendering Ukrainian and
a Russian officer:

   -- Your smartphone password.
   -- 1488.
   -- What, are you a Nazi?
   -- Not anymore.

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#169040

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-25 10:37 -0800
Message-ID<87y1pqihpc.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#169028
Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> writes:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>> Apparently "octoctal" is an extremely obscure term for an encoding that
>> is almost universally called base64.  Did you seriously expect your
>> readers to know that, or were you just trying to appear clever at the
>> expense of actually communicating?
>
> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great
> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and
> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular
> if you already know who the ADL are.

Seriously?  That seems like a big stretch and a serious unfounded
accusation.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for XCOM Labs
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#169130

FromJoe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
Date2023-01-29 20:57 -0700
Message-ID<1bo7qgd68h.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net>
In reply to#169028
Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> writes:

> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>> Apparently "octoctal" is an extremely obscure term for an encoding that
>> is almost universally called base64.  Did you seriously expect your
>> readers to know that, or were you just trying to appear clever at the
>> expense of actually communicating?
>
> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great
> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and
> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular
> if you already know who the ADL are.

Have you read what the ADL has to say about the actual number 88 and
non-white supremacist contexts?  You're mistaking tinnitis for the sound
of a dog whistle.

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#169132

FromBGB <cr88192@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-29 23:04 -0600
Message-ID<tr7j5e$35d0h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#169130
On 1/29/2023 9:57 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> writes:
> 
>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Apparently "octoctal" is an extremely obscure term for an encoding that
>>> is almost universally called base64.  Did you seriously expect your
>>> readers to know that, or were you just trying to appear clever at the
>>> expense of actually communicating?
>>
>> It's also a handy dogwhistle. I'm sure the ADL would take great
>> offence. Explanation in the headers, but treat it as a puzzle and
>> you should be able to work it out pretty quickly, in particular
>> if you already know who the ADL are.
> 
> Have you read what the ADL has to say about the actual number 88 and
> non-white supremacist contexts?  You're mistaking tinnitis for the sound
> of a dog whistle.

Interestingly, I had not heard of this usage until it came up in this 
thread...

But, yeah, numbers like this can come up in lots of other contexts 
purely by chance.


Well, and sometimes there is also the possibly fuzzy line between what 
is antisemitism, and what is self-deprecating humor, ... In some sense, 
context would need to be considered as well to try to determine the 
intended effect.

But, there is always also the possibility of people taking offense at 
things that were not intended to cause offense. Well, just as there is 
the possibility of those with hostile intentions trying to downplay it 
as an "innocent joke".


And, for someone whose status is more ambiguous, it can be awkward as 
well (both in terms of concern of hostility from those who dislike the 
group, and the paranoia that things they say could be taken as offensive 
by those who view them as an outsider, so alas...).

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#168917

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2023-01-22 21:09 -0800
Message-ID<tql4pt$3g350$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#168906
On 1/22/2023 5:03 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 02:48:47 UTC+2, Simon.S...@gfdedsed.hgtgfrfd wrote:
>> On 22/01/2023 23:35, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>>> On 2023-01-22, Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156)
>>>> --------------3JQTljwVhFWpzoRzV8egebvc
>>>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0MNTGzMBPlMoL8j1kNzL9HTB";
>>>> protected-headers="v1"
>>>> From: Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluema...@gmail.com>
>>>> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
>>>> Subject: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?
>>>>
>>>> --------------0MNTGzMBPlMoL8j1kNzL9HTB
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>>>>
>>>> DQrigItJIG5lZWQgYSBKU09OIGxpYnJhcnkgdGhhdCBhbGxvd3MgbWUgdG8gcmVhZCBkaXJl
>>>> Y3RseSBmcm9tIGEgSlNPTiBmaWxlLiANCiAgSSBkb24ndCB3YW50IHRvIGhhdmUgdG8gY29w
>>> Would you be able to stop posting MIME stuff? Thanks.
>> He can't because he is using a silly signature with funny characters and
>> so the server he is using (Eternal-September) is converting everything
>> to base64. He could try using this and it will work:
>>
>>> news://news.aioe.org/comp.lang.c
>>
>>> news://paganini.bofh.team/comp.lang.c
>>
>>
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>>
>> There is no need to have pgp file attachment because the posts here are
>> for everybody to read in any news client. I have never understood the
>> benefit of PGP encryption for newsgroups. They are supposed to be open
>> and for people to read and respond normally. Is C programming secretive
>> and closed shop? I doubt it!!!
> 
> The point of signature is not to encrypt something but to make it harder
> for someone else to post fake messages "from you" ... or to write a bot
> that posts those ... and so on.
> 
>   

Like posting a hash of the message, sender, ect...

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#168912

FromBen Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Date2023-01-23 02:41 +0000
Message-ID<87a62aug4e.fsf@bsb.me.uk>
In reply to#168904
Simon.Says.Yes@gfdedsed.hgtgfrfd writes:

> On 22/01/2023 23:35, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> On 2023-01-22, Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156)
>>> --------------3JQTljwVhFWpzoRzV8egebvc
>>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0MNTGzMBPlMoL8j1kNzL9HTB";
>>>   protected-headers="v1"
>>> From: Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com>
>>> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c
>>> Subject: Why is there not a single good JSON library for C?
>>>
>>> --------------0MNTGzMBPlMoL8j1kNzL9HTB
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>>>
>>> DQrigItJIG5lZWQgYSBKU09OIGxpYnJhcnkgdGhhdCBhbGxvd3MgbWUgdG8gcmVhZCBkaXJl
>>> Y3RseSBmcm9tIGEgSlNPTiBmaWxlLiANCiAgSSBkb24ndCB3YW50IHRvIGhhdmUgdG8gY29w
>> Would you be able to stop posting MIME stuff? Thanks.
>
> He can't because he is using a silly signature with funny characters and 
> so the server he is using (Eternal-September) is converting everything 
> to base64.

No, the server is not converting anything, and the signature only
contains "funny characters" in the sense that it's binary data.  The
body of the post is also base64 encoded and could use any UTF-8 encoded
characters but in fact it only uses plain ASCII.

> He could try using this and it will work:
>
>> news://news.aioe.org/comp.lang.c
>
>> news://paganini.bofh.team/comp.lang.c

If both operate correctly they should pass on the multi-part posting
that his or her news client (thuderbird) has prepared.  Any encoding
should be done only in the client.

>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>
> There is no need to have pgp file attachment because the posts here are 
> for everybody to read in any news client. I have never understood the 
> benefit of PGP encryption for newsgroups.

The post is signed, not encrypted, and so it is available for everyone
to read (if they have software that can display it at all).  Signing
would prevent someone from spoofing posts.

I'm not sue it's worth the trouble, though my client software has no
trouble with it.

-- 
Ben.

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