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  Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-02-24 21:15 +0000
    Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-24 22:54 +0000
      Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-24 23:57 +0100
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-24 23:02 +0000
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-25 02:00 +0100
            Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-25 02:27 +0000
            Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-25 16:58 +0000
              Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-25 18:50 +0100
              Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-02-26 12:43 +0000
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-24 18:00 -0800
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2024-02-26 11:24 -0700
            Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-26 23:20 +0000
              Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-26 23:31 +0000
                Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-27 12:50 +0100
              Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-27 05:02 -0500
                Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-27 22:48 +0000
                  Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-27 19:06 -0500
                    Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-28 00:11 +0000
                      Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-27 19:24 -0500
                        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-28 20:47 +0000
                          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-28 14:06 -0800
                            Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-28 22:20 +0000
                          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-29 13:21 -0500
                Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-27 22:50 +0000
                  Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-27 19:41 -0500
                    Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-28 13:13 +0100
      Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-02-25 01:33 +0000
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-25 06:20 +0000
      Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-02-26 09:47 +0000
      Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2024-02-26 11:20 -0700
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-27 10:08 +0100
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-27 13:00 +0100
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-27 13:12 +0200
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-27 14:36 +0200
    Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-25 17:39 +0000
      Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-02-26 03:12 +0000
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-26 05:20 +0100
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-02-26 14:26 +0000
            Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-26 16:31 +0100
            [OT] personal things (was Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-26 16:43 +0100
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-02-26 14:32 +0000
            [OT] Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-26 17:10 +0100
              Re: [OT] Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-26 18:26 +0100
      Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-26 11:45 +0100
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-26 13:04 +0000
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-26 15:46 +0100
            Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-26 16:17 +0100
              Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-26 17:15 +0100
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-02-26 14:38 +0000
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-26 16:29 +0000
            Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-02-26 19:54 +0000
              Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-26 20:06 +0000
                Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday porkchop@invalid.foo (Mike Sanders) - 2024-02-26 21:18 +0000
                Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-27 00:59 +0000
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-26 18:07 +0100
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-26 16:09 +0100
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-26 17:26 +0000
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-27 10:17 +0100
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-03 11:05 -0800
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-27 01:28 +0000
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-27 02:25 +0000
          Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-03 10:03 -0800
      Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-28 01:54 +0000
        Re: Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-03 10:23 -0800

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#382975 — Calculate date of Easter or Good Friday

Calculate the date of Easter Sunday or Good Friday:

https://busybox.neocities.org/notes/is-easter-or-goodfriday.txt

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Mike Sanders

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#382982

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:15:56 -0000 (UTC), Mike Sanders wrote:

> Calculate the date of Easter Sunday or Good Friday:

Did you know that one of the requirements of the rules was that Easter 
would never coincide with Passover? Because the sight of Christians 
celebrating together with Jews was seen as heretical or something ...

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#382983

On 24.02.2024 23:54, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:15:56 -0000 (UTC), Mike Sanders wrote:
> 
>> Calculate the date of Easter Sunday or Good Friday:
> 
> Did you know that one of the requirements of the rules was that Easter 
> would never coincide with Passover? Because the sight of Christians 
> celebrating together with Jews was seen as heretical or something ...

... and that there's not a unique definition of Easter.

Janis

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#382984

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:57:16 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

> ... and that there's not a unique definition of Easter.

Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the 
Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for their 
own propaganda purposes.

Just like they took a lot of existing pagan deities (e.g. in Celtic lands) 
and reinvented them as “saints”.

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#382990

On 25.02.2024 00:02, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:57:16 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> 
>> ... and that there's not a unique definition of Easter.
> 
> Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the 
> Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for their 
> own propaganda purposes.

Yes, the associated rites were of pagan origin. The dates of Easter -
the topic here - still not unique. There's different calculations for
different christian churches; the catholics calculate it differently
from the orthodox christians, still today. - So Easter is peobably
not a good choice for a C program calculation if not parameterized or
explicitly documented to be restricted to only one specific religious
culture.

Janis

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#382996

On 2024-02-25, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 25.02.2024 00:02, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:57:16 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>> 
>>> ... and that there's not a unique definition of Easter.
>> 
>> Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the 
>> Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for their 
>> own propaganda purposes.
>
> Yes, the associated rites were of pagan origin.

Pretty much all Christian celebrations are hijacks of pagan ones.

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#383009

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 02:00:43 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

> On 25.02.2024 00:02, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:57:16 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>> 
>>> ... and that there's not a unique definition of Easter.
>> 
>> Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the 
>> Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for their 
>> own propaganda purposes.
> 
> Yes, the associated rites were of pagan origin. The dates of Easter -
> the topic here - still not unique. There's different calculations for
> different christian churches; the catholics calculate it differently
> from the orthodox christians, still today. 

As some countries recognize Good Friday and/or Easter Sunday as 
statutory holidays, and have /legal/ definitions for those dates.

For instance, the Government of Canada defines Easter Sunday as
"the first Sunday after the first full moon in spring (after March 21st)".
(I don't know if this coincides with /any/ religious definition or not.)

> So Easter is peobably
> not a good choice for a C program calculation if not parameterized or
> explicitly documented to be restricted to only one specific religious
> culture.




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#383011

On 25.02.2024 17:58, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 02:00:43 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>>
>> [...]  There's different calculations for
>> different christian churches; the catholics calculate it differently
>> from the orthodox christians, still today. 
> 
> As some countries recognize Good Friday and/or Easter Sunday as 
> statutory holidays, and have /legal/ definitions for those dates.
> 
> For instance, the Government of Canada defines Easter Sunday as
> "the first Sunday after the first full moon in spring (after March 21st)".
> (I don't know if this coincides with /any/ religious definition or not.)

In Germany it's also legally defined. But it's difficult.

First, most holidays (but one) are defined not on the country level
but individually at states level, but there's still common holidays
across all states. This is not surprising since the states have
different predominant religious variants in their population, so the
"protestant countries" have not the same holidays as the "catholic
countries" (and the orthodox, for example, are not represented in
the legislation at all, e.g. when concerning Easter), and there are
also other state specific holidays. And even within a state there's
regional differences. There are also legislative special rules, e.g.
for Israeli holidays, that Germans have to respect, and that provide
more free time for people of this religious orientation.

Then there's a distinction of fixed and varying holidays. Easter is
from the latter, while Christmas from the former.

And, IIUC, the actual dates rely on a "Church Year", which differs
between catholics/protestants and orthodox christians.

I can't say whether the legislation is referring to some churches'
documents and/or definitions, but it's more likely they copied such
definitions into the legislative texts, since people must be able to
rely on legislative texts. But on a quick view into the Bavarian law
I could not find the Christian holidays listed by date; they are just
referred to by their name.

It's complex.

Janis

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#383031

On 2024-02-25, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 02:00:43 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>> [...]
>> Yes, the associated rites were of pagan origin. The dates of Easter -
>> the topic here - still not unique. There's different calculations for
>> different christian churches; the catholics calculate it differently
>> from the orthodox christians, still today. 
>
> As some countries recognize Good Friday and/or Easter Sunday as 
> statutory holidays, and have /legal/ definitions for those dates.
>
> For instance, the Government of Canada defines Easter Sunday as
> "the first Sunday after the first full moon in spring (after March 21st)".
> (I don't know if this coincides with /any/ religious definition or not.)

Close enough to Catholic -- "First Sunday after the first full moon
after the Spring Equinox".

Equinox is on the 19th, first full moon is the 31st. Should line up (at
least this year).


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#382994

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:57:16 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>> ... and that there's not a unique definition of Easter.
>
> Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the 
> Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for their 
> own propaganda purposes.
>
> Just like they took a lot of existing pagan deities (e.g. in Celtic lands) 
> and reinvented them as “saints”.

Yes, please, this newsgroup really needs a religious debate!

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#383055

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:57:16 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>
>> ... and that there's not a unique definition of Easter.
>
> Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the 
> Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for their 
> own propaganda purposes.

While that unquestionably true of Christmas, Easter very clearly comes
from Passover. It's true that in German-derived languages the name comes
from a Germanic goddess, and some countries have some traditions taken
from there as well, but that doesn't change the origin.

> Just like they took a lot of existing pagan deities (e.g. in Celtic lands) 
> and reinvented them as “saints”.

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#383076

On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:24:29 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> 
>> Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the
>> Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for
>> their own propaganda purposes.
> 
> While that unquestionably true of Christmas, Easter very clearly comes
> from Passover.

Easter bunny? Eggs? Both fertility symbols, associated with (northern) 
spring and the beginning of the planting season? And both with origins 
older than Christianity and Judaism combined?

Somehow I doubt it.

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#383077

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:24:29 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>> 
>>> Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the
>>> Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for
>>> their own propaganda purposes.
>> 
>> While that unquestionably true of Christmas, Easter very clearly comes
>> from Passover.
>
>Easter bunny? Eggs? Both fertility symbols, associated with (northern) 
>spring and the beginning of the planting season? And both with origins 
>older than Christianity and Judaism combined?
>
>Somehow I doubt it.

March was the first month of the year in Roman times (which is why september
is derived from the latin for seven).   It's likely that there were a
number of pagen festivals in the northern hemisphere spring associated
with rebirth (of the year, of the crops, etc).

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#383096

On 27.02.2024 00:31, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> 
> March was the first month of the year in Roman times (which is why september
> is derived from the latin for seven).  [...]

Actually true for September, October, November, and December (derived
from numbers 7, 8, 9, 10 in Latin).

Janis

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#383092

On 2/26/24 18:20, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:24:29 -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> 
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> Easter, Christmas ... both ancient pagan festivals co-opted by the
>>> Christians and given an invented meaning under their ideology, for
>>> their own propaganda purposes.
>>
>> While that unquestionably true of Christmas, Easter very clearly comes
>> from Passover.
> 
> Easter bunny? Eggs? Both fertility symbols, associated with (northern) 
> spring and the beginning of the planting season? And both with origins 
> older than Christianity and Judaism combined?
> 
> Somehow I doubt it.

He was not talking about Easter customs, he was talking about the
*definition" of Easter - the date on which it is celebrated, which is
the very Subject of this [OT] thread. The Last Supper is unambiguously
described in the Christian Bible as occurring during the week of
Passover, which starts on Nissan 15 in the Hebrew calendar. As a result,
the early Christians, who merely considered themselves a sect of
Judaism, originally celebrated Easter a few days later, corresponding to
Jesus' supposed resurrection from the dead.

By the Council of Nicaea, some Christians had come to believe that the
Jews were misinterpreting their own rules for the Jewish calendar,
sometimes starting the month of Nissan on the wrong date. They were
chafing against the idea that they had to accept Jews as authorities on
that matter, which is why Council decided otherwise. They were not
co-opting a pagan date - they were trying to be MORE correct than the
Jews as to the timing of Passover.

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#383119

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 05:02:58 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:

> They were not co-opting a pagan date - they were trying to be MORE
> correct than the Jews as to the timing of Passover.

Religion is a matter of belief, not fact. Trying to be “more correct” than 
official religious authorities has a name: “heresy”.

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#383125

On 2/27/24 17:48, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 05:02:58 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:
> 
>> They were not co-opting a pagan date - they were trying to be MORE
>> correct than the Jews as to the timing of Passover.
> 
> Religion is a matter of belief, not fact. Trying to be “more correct” than 
> official religious authorities has a name: “heresy”.

Actually, no. The Christians had fully separated from Judaism by that
time - they no longer accepted the authority of Jewish religious
authorities. That is why it was considered so annoying to many
Christians that they had to go to Jewish religious authorities to
determine the correct timing for a Christian religious celebration. The
Council of Nicaea was where they officially decided that they didn't
need to do that anymore.

Whether or not it's heresy is also irrelevant to the point under debate:
whether the date of Easter was co-opted from a pagan religion. It wasn't
(you might be thinking of Christmas, which was so co-opted).

Incidentally, when the rules for determining how a calendar system
should work have been formalized, whether or not those rules have been
followed becomes a matter of fact, not a matter of belief or opinion.
Whether that calendar system should be used, whether the holy days of a
given religion should be celebrated according to that calendar are all
matters of opinion. Whether those rules had been formalized and followed
is not. I personally have not delved into the historical evidence deeply
enough to have an opinion on that issue - precisely because that issue
is irrelevant to the point under discussion. The timing of the Easter
celebration had nothing to do with any pagan religion.

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#383126

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 19:06:22 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:

> On 2/27/24 17:48, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 05:02:58 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:
>> 
>>> They were not co-opting a pagan date - they were trying to be MORE
>>> correct than the Jews as to the timing of Passover.
>> 
>> Religion is a matter of belief, not fact. Trying to be “more correct”
>> than official religious authorities has a name: “heresy”.
> 
> Actually, no. The Christians had fully separated from Judaism by that
> time - they no longer accepted the authority of Jewish religious
> authorities.

Or rather, the ones that still did were the ones considered “heretics”.

> whether the date of Easter was co-opted from a pagan religion. It wasn't

Nobody said it was.

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#383127

On 2/27/24 19:11, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 19:06:22 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:
...
>> Actually, no. The Christians had fully separated from Judaism by that
>> time - they no longer accepted the authority of Jewish religious
>> authorities.
> 
> Or rather, the ones that still did were the ones considered “heretics”.

Each side considered the other heretics. Heresy is a normally a two-way
accusation.

>> whether the date of Easter was co-opted from a pagan religion. It wasn't

You were the one who interrupted a discussion of the date of Easter by
claiming that Easter had been co-opted from pagan celebrations. Many of
the customs followed during Easter were co-opted, but not the date,
which rendered your comment a non-sequitur.

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#383138

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 19:24:05 -0500, James Kuyper wrote:

> You were the one who interrupted a discussion of the date of Easter by
> claiming that Easter had been co-opted from pagan celebrations. Many of
> the customs followed during Easter were co-opted, but not the date,
> which rendered your comment a non-sequitur.

Remember, you were the one who said that “the point under debate” was 
“whether the date of Easter was co-opted from a pagan religion”. Not me.

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