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| Started by | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| First post | 2024-01-29 16:03 +0000 |
| Last post | 2024-02-12 02:18 +0000 |
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Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-29 16:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-30 00:57 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-29 17:38 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-30 09:06 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 15:23 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 08:36 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 19:12 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 00:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 01:45 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 04:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 11:52 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 16:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 17:57 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-01-30 19:22 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-01-31 16:41 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-01-31 19:01 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 20:25 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 09:39 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 11:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 16:11 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 17:33 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 18:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-01 22:23 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 20:55 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 13:10 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 22:38 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 00:55 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 02:08 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 09:02 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 15:28 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 15:49 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 16:53 +0200
Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-02 16:29 +0000
Re: Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 17:29 +0000
Re: Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:44 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 13:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 15:57 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 15:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 17:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 18:26 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 05:45 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-03 21:24 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:19 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 22:12 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 12:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:25 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 19:52 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 19:58 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 05:52 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-03 14:52 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 14:59 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:51 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 11:08 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 16:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:29 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:31 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 22:11 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 16:24 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 01:19 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:51 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-04 14:07 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:01 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 04:56 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 21:36 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 21:41 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:44 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 15:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:27 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:52 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2024-02-05 17:57 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 09:17 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 19:11 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:29 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:51 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-03 21:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 21:39 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:23 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 14:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 18:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 20:12 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-02-04 16:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:08 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-04 18:22 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:53 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 14:01 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:36 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 22:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 23:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 15:32 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-02-05 17:37 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 18:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 18:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:25 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 21:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:40 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 22:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:39 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 22:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-06 00:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 19:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 00:07 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 16:10 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 10:41 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 18:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-06 23:41 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 09:56 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 11:10 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-02-07 11:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 11:05 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-07 23:46 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 15:09 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-07 14:21 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 10:11 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 21:53 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 14:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 16:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 17:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System [Ben] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 22:50 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 09:40 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 11:55 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 12:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 16:35 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 16:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 21:24 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 16:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-02-08 17:04 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-08 17:10 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 17:25 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 23:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-08 17:38 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 21:30 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 00:58 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 01:14 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-09 01:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 01:27 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 01:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 10:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 13:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 02:07 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 15:49 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 17:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:24 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 10:34 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 18:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 20:41 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 21:56 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 23:12 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 23:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 00:28 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 15:41 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 23:53 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 00:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 16:33 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 02:26 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 02:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 20:17 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 20:09 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 19:51 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-09 18:25 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 20:55 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:06 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 13:15 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 22:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-10 15:24 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:04 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 09:21 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 17:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 23:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-07 19:24 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 10:12 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 08:40 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 12:24 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 01:45 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:17 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:41 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:46 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-05 06:48 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 11:20 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:33 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-05 21:57 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 23:20 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:41 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-06 01:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-06 00:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-05 06:00 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 22:46 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:57 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-05 13:02 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 22:51 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 23:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 00:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 14:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 14:40 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 16:59 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 19:20 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-06 20:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 20:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-06 20:49 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-06 13:07 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 21:39 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-07 15:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:36 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 20:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 21:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 23:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 23:58 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 01:33 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 01:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-08 01:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 02:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 22:48 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 23:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 21:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 21:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-08 17:23 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 00:51 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-07 02:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 04:21 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-07 07:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 12:59 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-07 23:53 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-07 15:45 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-08 12:56 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-08 17:22 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 00:07 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 10:08 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 11:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 22:34 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 22:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:28 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 01:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 17:42 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 02:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 19:03 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 10:54 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 16:09 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 02:36 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 00:53 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:51 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-02-03 17:56 -0500
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-04 07:52 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-04 06:18 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-02 03:22 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 11:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-03 00:25 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 13:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 10:47 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 15:45 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 16:26 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:39 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-03 16:26 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:11 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-06 13:59 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 13:14 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-06 14:32 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-06 14:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 17:02 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-06 20:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 14:14 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 16:43 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 15:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-02 20:43 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 20:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 16:31 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 17:00 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 17:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 10:36 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 19:52 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 20:21 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 21:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 13:15 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:13 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:23 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 21:51 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 12:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 17:59 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 19:35 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-03 21:57 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:48 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 20:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-04 20:55 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-07 02:57 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 03:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:27 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 15:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 16:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-08 00:39 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 21:59 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 09:42 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-07 10:40 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 15:37 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 22:51 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 23:11 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-05 13:42 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:59 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 15:45 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 11:25 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 22:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 14:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 22:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:53 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:02 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 10:48 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 17:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 11:36 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:04 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 18:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 06:04 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 22:13 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 06:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 00:02 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 08:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 06:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 11:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:02 -0800
[meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:04 +0100
Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 07:19 -0800
Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:29 +0100
Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:37 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 16:26 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 11:05 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 15:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 00:26 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 00:35 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 11:13 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 10:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 14:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-02 01:46 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-01 16:20 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-01 16:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 17:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 19:25 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 19:51 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 12:12 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 12:43 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-01 22:36 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 23:09 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 21:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 09:48 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 11:49 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 21:39 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:24 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:38 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-01 23:53 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 23:14 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-30 09:17 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 12:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 15:25 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 17:50 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 03:14 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 20:38 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:06 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 14:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:23 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-30 16:46 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 03:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-31 03:23 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 08:47 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 11:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 15:31 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-31 15:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 23:00 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 00:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 03:07 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 15:00 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:40 +0000
system(3) (was: Re: Experimental C Build System) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-01 08:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 23:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 00:33 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:11 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 14:55 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 14:42 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 12:19 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 14:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 16:43 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 01:05 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 11:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 07:17 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 16:05 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:39 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 22:19 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:56 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:57 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 20:36 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System thiago <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 20:36 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-08 13:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System thiago <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 20:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 02:18 +0000
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2024-02-02 18:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <NtavN.56352$5Hnd.26917@fx03.iad> |
| In reply to | #381624 |
bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes: >On 02/02/2024 15:18, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >You're saying that anyone not using Unix, not building 10Mloc projects, >and not a fan of make, should FOAD? No. I'm saying that your dislike of make is personal. If you don't like it, don't use it. Make your own, nobody is stopping you. Just don't brag about how "small", "easy" or "nice" it is until it can handle the same job as make.
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 05:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upkjug$30tol$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381625 |
On 02/02/2024 18:26, Scott Lurndal wrote: > bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes: >> On 02/02/2024 15:18, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> >> You're saying that anyone not using Unix, not building 10Mloc projects, >> and not a fan of make, should FOAD? > > No. I'm saying that your dislike of make is personal. If you > don't like it, don't use it. Make your own, nobody is stopping > you. Just don't brag about how "small", "easy" or "nice" it is > until it can handle the same job as make. > Well no. These are impossible design specifications. Obviously we would like something which is smaller than make, easier to use, generally nice, and also supports every single job that "make" supports. But the only way you can achieve that is to keep the program essentially the same and fiddle about a bit with the syntax. And at best, that will achieve a few marginal improvements. To build a "smaller, easier, nicer" make, if that is the goal (and it's a very legitimate one), you're going to have to ask what does make do? What functionality does it have that is rarely used, or which could be achieved on other ways, or which users can be persuaded isn't really necessary?" For example make keeps a list of dependencies. But my by no means untypical machine has six 3.7 Ghz cores. If those dependencies are going to be hand-written C source files, there's no longer any point in keeing track of changed dependent files. Back in the day, when make was written there was. But now, surely we can just submit the whole lot to the compiler, and maybe we lose a second. And by stripping the dependencies out of make, we can write a program which is a whole lot easier to use. (Unfortunately if you write C++ rather than C, even a 3.7 GHz machine isn't going to be fast enough. But maybe your users don't use C++). But that's the way to do it. -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 21:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nayvN.104508$JLvf.58625@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #381653 |
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes: >On 02/02/2024 18:26, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes: >>> On 02/02/2024 15:18, Scott Lurndal wrote: > > >To build a "smaller, easier, nicer" make, if that is the goal (and it's >a very legitimate one), No, it's not really a legitimate one, since make supports the single file cases -without a makefile-. And it supports the largest projects as well (the linux kernel, for example, is built with make). >(Unfortunately if you write C++ rather than C, even a 3.7 GHz machine >isn't going to be fast enough. But maybe your users don't use C++). FYI, on my 64-core 3.4Ghz build machine, it takes an hour to build our C++ application on a single core. With -j32, it finishes in a bit under 5 minutes. (32 because it is a system shared by a number of users, and the compiles end up I/O bound).
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 13:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uplb0v$349sm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381609 |
On 02.02.2024 16:18, Scott Lurndal wrote: > bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes: (Ah, I spotted my person being addressed again by Bart.) > >> It certainly won't for your stuff, or SL's, or JP's, or TR's, as you >> all seem to delight in wheeling out the most complex scenarios you can find. No. The "complex" scenarios - I called them professional projects as opposed to toy projects - I mentioned explicitly only because _you_ (for obvious argumentation manoeuvre) asked me how my projects would look like. (You continuously expose such a lousy argumentation habit that it hurts.) Actually, all professional projects I did myself, or that I observed others were doing, were non-trivial (some even complex, yes). One point of professional software engineering and project management is managing any existing complexity. (There's many means for that; one had been talked about, modularization (or other divide and conquer techniques).) > [...] > >> >> That is another aspect you might do well to learn how to do: KISS. [...] I suppose we have a different view about what KISS is. In my book it is (for example) to use existing, simple and established tools instead of reinventing the wheel and (even needlessly) implement my own version before I can start with my project. > > KISS is a good principle to follow, and while I cannot again speak > for David, it's a principle followed by most programmers I've worked > with. That doesn't mean throwing away perfectly usable tools > (one can easily make KISS-compliant makefiles, for example). Not all projects can be kept simple. But certainly we try to not make it more complex than necessary. >> I'm not suggesting replacing make, only to reduce its involvement. (And yet I've seen no sensible argument from you why - only that you don't know it, and that you don't like it, and that it don't fit you.) > [...] Janis
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-02 21:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upjnje$2oup9$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381601 |
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 13:47:25 +0000, bart wrote: > That's true: only 47 years in computing, and 42 years of evolving, > implementing and running my systems language. On how many different platforms? Seems like your primary experience has been with beating your head against Microsoft Windows. That’s got to have health implications.
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| From | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-02 22:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upjpbk$2pihr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381638 |
On 02/02/2024 21:42, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 13:47:25 +0000, bart wrote: > >> That's true: only 47 years in computing, and 42 years of evolving, >> implementing and running my systems language. > > On how many different platforms? I started in 1976. I started using Windows for my products in 1995 because all my potential customers could buy an off-the-shelf Windows PC. Linux was nowhere. Unix was only in academia, I think; nowhere relevant to me anyway. My first compiler (not for my language) targetted PDP10. Subsequent ones generated code for Z80 plus 3 generations of x86. I started using the C library in 1995 too (via my FFI), as it was simpler than WinAPI for file-handling. > Seems like your primary experience has been with beating your head against > Microsoft Windows. That’s got to have health implications. That wasn't a serious question was it; you just wanted to have a go at Windows. Why do you consider that fair game, but people hate if when anyone criticises Unix?
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 01:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upk4tm$2r6q8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381640 |
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 22:12:04 +0000, bart wrote: > On 02/02/2024 21:42, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> Seems like your primary experience has been with beating your head >> against Microsoft Windows. That’s got to have health implications. > > That wasn't a serious question was it; you just wanted to have a go at > Windows. You yourself have complained endlessly about build setups that work fine on *nix systems, but that give you trouble on Windows. It’s like you don’t see the source of your difficulties right in front of your eyes. > Why do you consider that fair game, but people hate if when anyone > criticises Unix? I don’t care about “Unix” any more, and I doubt many other people do. All the systems legally entitled to call themselves ”Unix” are dying if not already dead.
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| From | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 12:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upla17$342ho$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381645 |
On 03/02/2024 01:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 22:12:04 +0000, bart wrote: > >> On 02/02/2024 21:42, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> Seems like your primary experience has been with beating your head >>> against Microsoft Windows. That’s got to have health implications. >> >> That wasn't a serious question was it; you just wanted to have a go at >> Windows. > > You yourself have complained endlessly about build setups that work fine > on *nix systems, but that give you trouble on Windows. It’s like you don’t > see the source of your difficulties right in front of your eyes. I guess you're not curious about WHY a project that builds easily on Unix causes problems on Windows? Please think about it. You are keen to just totally dismiss the problem and suggest it is Windows that is fault. But maybe there IS a dependency on some Unix feature that is unnecessary. Why force Windows users to pointlessly use MSYS2 or go through a nightmare of cross-compiling via WSL? Apparently being considerate is not in a Unix programmer's toolkit. >> Why do you consider that fair game, but people hate if when anyone >> criticises Unix? > > I don’t care about “Unix” any more, and I doubt many other people do. All > the systems legally entitled to call themselves ”Unix” are dying if not > already dead. See, I don't even know the difference. This is a collection of OSes without even a name. I was trying to avoid saying 'Linux' because of the preponderance of other Unix-related OSes. But I would rather shoot myself than resort to using '*nixes'.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 12:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <upm7g9$3943m$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381668 |
On 2/3/2024 4:02 AM, bart wrote: > On 03/02/2024 01:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 22:12:04 +0000, bart wrote: >> >>> On 02/02/2024 21:42, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: [...] > See, I don't even know the difference. This is a collection of OSes > without even a name. I was trying to avoid saying 'Linux' because of the > preponderance of other Unix-related OSes. But I would rather shoot > myself than resort to using '*nixes'. Have you experimented with vcpkg yet? It manages to compile a lot of libraries from scratch...
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-04 06:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upnbu5$3i0cg$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381668 |
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 12:02:48 +0000, bart wrote: > I guess you're not curious about WHY a project that builds easily on > Unix causes problems on Windows? Fundamental NT kernel limitations, going back decades and seemingly unfixable. Like poll(2)/select(2) not being able to work on pipes. Like why WSL1 had to be abandoned (in spite of Microsoft’s best efforts), and a proper Linux kernel brought in with WSL2. The irony is, the Cygwin folk have been able to build a better POSIX emulation layer than Microsoft has been able to manage.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-04 19:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <uppm21$4j0k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381729 |
On 2/3/2024 10:47 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 12:02:48 +0000, bart wrote: > >> I guess you're not curious about WHY a project that builds easily on >> Unix causes problems on Windows? > > Fundamental NT kernel limitations, going back decades and seemingly > unfixable. Like poll(2)/select(2) not being able to work on pipes. Like > why WSL1 had to be abandoned (in spite of Microsoft’s best efforts), and a > proper Linux kernel brought in with WSL2. > > The irony is, the Cygwin folk have been able to build a better POSIX > emulation layer than Microsoft has been able to manage. Ditto! Humm... :^)
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-04 19:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <uppmcm$4j0k$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381729 |
On 2/3/2024 10:47 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 12:02:48 +0000, bart wrote: > >> I guess you're not curious about WHY a project that builds easily on >> Unix causes problems on Windows? > > Fundamental NT kernel limitations, NT4: https://github.com/ZoloZiak/WinNT4 ;^D > going back decades and seemingly > unfixable. Like poll(2)/select(2) not being able to work on pipes. Like > why WSL1 had to be abandoned (in spite of Microsoft’s best efforts), and a > proper Linux kernel brought in with WSL2. > > The irony is, the Cygwin folk have been able to build a better POSIX > emulation layer than Microsoft has been able to manage.
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 05:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upkkai$30tol$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381640 |
On 02/02/2024 22:12, bart wrote: > > Why do you consider that fair game, but people hate if when anyone > criticises Unix? > Because UNIX systems used to typically cost tens of thousands of dollars, whilst a PC could be had for under a thousand dollars. So everyone could have a PC, but if you were given a UNIX system you were a bit special. And that gave UNIX programmers a sense of superiority. It's a very silly attitude of course. -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 14:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uplge5$352uh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381654 |
On 03/02/2024 06:52, Malcolm McLean wrote: > On 02/02/2024 22:12, bart wrote: >> >> Why do you consider that fair game, but people hate if when anyone >> criticises Unix? >> > Because UNIX systems used to typically cost tens of thousands of > dollars, whilst a PC could be had for under a thousand dollars. I think you got stuck somewhere in the 1990's. > So > everyone could have a PC, but if you were given a UNIX system you were a > bit special. And that gave UNIX programmers a sense of superiority. > Anyone who has used both *nix and Windows for development work knows *nix is superior for that. (Windows has other advantages - I use both Windows and Linux. Neither is perfect, each has their good points and bad points.) > It's a very silly attitude of course. Fighting against a system that works against everything you are trying to do is a very silly attitude. Bart has choices - no one is forcing him to compile open source software that causes him trouble, no one is forcing him to use Windows, or C, or make, or anything else. He has completely free choices. He could use Linux and compile the projects without trouble. He could use Windows and pre-built binaries. He could use other projects, other languages, other tools. He could choose to put his feet by the fireside and do Sudokus, or to travel the world and see other places. He has worked hard, made his money, and has earned the right to relax a bit. But he actively chooses to fight against software tools that cause him nothing but anguish and frustration, and then whines about them here. /That/ is a very silly attitude.
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| From | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 14:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uplkc2$35rak$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381674 |
On 03/02/2024 13:52, David Brown wrote: > On 03/02/2024 06:52, Malcolm McLean wrote: >> On 02/02/2024 22:12, bart wrote: >>> >>> Why do you consider that fair game, but people hate if when anyone >>> criticises Unix? >>> >> Because UNIX systems used to typically cost tens of thousands of >> dollars, whilst a PC could be had for under a thousand dollars. > > I think you got stuck somewhere in the 1990's. > >> So everyone could have a PC, but if you were given a UNIX system you >> were a bit special. And that gave UNIX programmers a sense of >> superiority. >> > > Anyone who has used both *nix and Windows for development work knows > *nix is superior for that. (Windows has other advantages - I use both > Windows and Linux. Neither is perfect, each has their good points and > bad points.) > >> It's a very silly attitude of course. > > Fighting against a system that works against everything you are trying > to do is a very silly attitude. Bart has choices - no one is forcing > him to compile open source software that causes him trouble, no one is > forcing him to use Windows, or C, or make, or anything else. He has > completely free choices. He could use Linux and compile the projects > without trouble. He could use Windows and pre-built binaries. He could > use other projects, other languages, other tools. He could choose to > put his feet by the fireside and do Sudokus, or to travel the world and > see other places. I've done all that of course. At one point I was taking 30-40 holidays a year (since there are only 52 weeks in a year, some of them had to be short breaks!). But when relaxing, even abroad, I /had/ to work on some project. I was so used to years of working all day, 7 days a week, to meet some deadline, that I couldn't switch off. I'm concerned about increasing bloat and complexity everywhere. So I'm just making a stand by developing my own small, human-scale products. No, I don't /need/ to use some library. But I won't get far these days without using any libraries; this is no longer the 80s/90s where you did everything. And you can't do so now anyway; the hardware is too hard to access. Then I can rail about products that are unnecessarily hard to use, be they APIs expressed in C, or stuff I need to build from source, just because developers are based on Linux and they expect all users to use Linux too.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-04 06:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upnc5t$3i0cg$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381679 |
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 14:59:14 +0000, bart wrote: > I'm concerned about increasing bloat and complexity everywhere. So I'm > just making a stand by developing my own small, human-scale products. And you run your stuff on what is probably the most bloated, monolithic, inflexible, unwieldy, clumsy, overcomplicated, inefficient and bug-ridden OS in existence--Microsoft Windows.
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| From | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-04 11:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upnr6q$3kdqa$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381730 |
On 04/02/2024 06:51, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 14:59:14 +0000, bart wrote: > >> I'm concerned about increasing bloat and complexity everywhere. So I'm >> just making a stand by developing my own small, human-scale products. > > And you run your stuff on what is probably the most bloated, monolithic, > inflexible, unwieldy, clumsy, overcomplicated, inefficient and bug-ridden > OS in existence--Microsoft Windows. I'm sure others can give it a run for its money too. I remember my Android phone taking 3 minutes to do a restart. However that vast complexity doesn't get in the way of building C programs which is what this is about. But the complexity of Linux CAN get in the way of that, since many build processes like to utilise half of its features, and that complexity then needs to be replicated on Windows it I want to build something there. So while your hatred of Windows is irrational; my dislike of Linux is rational, since it directly affects the subject of the thread.
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 15:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upln11$36b4p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381674 |
On 03/02/2024 13:52, David Brown wrote: > On 03/02/2024 06:52, Malcolm McLean wrote: >> On 02/02/2024 22:12, bart wrote: >>> >>> Why do you consider that fair game, but people hate if when anyone >>> criticises Unix? >>> >> Because UNIX systems used to typically cost tens of thousands of >> dollars, whilst a PC could be had for under a thousand dollars. > > I think you got stuck somewhere in the 1990's. > >> So everyone could have a PC, but if you were given a UNIX system you >> were a bit special. And that gave UNIX programmers a sense of >> superiority. >> > > Anyone who has used both *nix and Windows for development work knows > *nix is superior for that. (Windows has other advantages - I use both > Windows and Linux. Neither is perfect, each has their good points and > bad points.) > You right. On Unix you can fire up the system, launch an editor, type "hello world" into it, type gcc or cc *.c -lm at the shell, type ./a.out, and yove got the outout "Hello world" and a template you can then modify to do practically anything you want. On Windows you've got the fire up Visual Studio, and set up a project file. And then you've gt to fiddle with it to enable the standard library. And then it will demand you include "stdafx.h" and you've got to fiddle with it a bit more to sop it asking for that. Then, whilst you will get an executable, when you launch it from the IDE, the output window will disappear before you can read it. And you have to fiddle with it a bit more. It's much less convenient. On the other had, if you want a GUI, the Windows system is all set up for you and you just have to call the right functions. On Unix you have to configure some sort of front end to X, there's a lot more messing about, and the GUI elements aren't consistent. -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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| From | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 16:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uplo41$36hig$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381683 |
On 03/02/2024 15:44, Malcolm McLean wrote: > On 03/02/2024 13:52, David Brown wrote: >> On 03/02/2024 06:52, Malcolm McLean wrote: >>> On 02/02/2024 22:12, bart wrote: >>>> >>>> Why do you consider that fair game, but people hate if when anyone >>>> criticises Unix? >>>> >>> Because UNIX systems used to typically cost tens of thousands of >>> dollars, whilst a PC could be had for under a thousand dollars. >> >> I think you got stuck somewhere in the 1990's. >> >>> So everyone could have a PC, but if you were given a UNIX system you >>> were a bit special. And that gave UNIX programmers a sense of >>> superiority. >>> >> >> Anyone who has used both *nix and Windows for development work knows >> *nix is superior for that. (Windows has other advantages - I use both >> Windows and Linux. Neither is perfect, each has their good points and >> bad points.) >> > You right. On Unix you can fire up the system, launch an editor, type > "hello world" into it, type gcc or cc *.c -lm at the shell, type > ./a.out, and yove got the outout "Hello world" and a template you can > then modify to do practically anything you want. > > On Windows you've got the fire up Visual Studio, and set up a project > file. And then you've gt to fiddle with it to enable the standard > library. And then it will demand you include "stdafx.h" and you've got > to fiddle with it a bit more to sop it asking for that. Then, whilst you > will get an executable, when you launch it from the IDE, the output > window will disappear before you can read it. And you have to fiddle > with it a bit more. It's much less convenient. You're assuming VS has been installed. How about assuming Tiny C has been installed instead. Then: `On Windows, 'fire up the system', launch an editor, type "Hello world" into it, type "tcc *.c" at the shell, type hello and you've got the output "Hello world" and a simpler template.` So there is little difference (eg. gcc is preinstalled on one, but if you want to use tcc, it must be installed on both OSes). You're not comparing like with like. DB is saying Unix is superior because it comes with a million developer tools either built-in or instantly available via apt-get or whatever. That cuts no ice with me because I can work with a very spartan set of tools. > On the other had, if you want a GUI, the Windows system is all set up > for you and you just have to call the right functions. On Unix you have > to configure some sort of front end to X, there's a lot more messing > about, and the GUI elements aren't consistent. For GUI they're both a nightmare unless you use a simpler library that sits on top. Or are you saying that X is even worse than WinAPI?
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-03 17:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uplrio$37528$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381685 |
On 03/02/2024 16:03, bart wrote: > On 03/02/2024 15:44, Malcolm McLean wrote: >> >> On the other had, if you want a GUI, the Windows system is all set up >> for you and you just have to call the right functions. On Unix you >> have to configure some sort of front end to X, there's a lot more >> messing about, and the GUI elements aren't consistent. > > For GUI they're both a nightmare unless you use a simpler library that > sits on top. Or are you saying that X is even worse than WinAPI? I've programmed for both and Windows GUI is quite a bit easier to use. You have to enter a library name explictly to get the common controls, for some stupid reason, but once you do that the whole system is set up for you. Just call the API more or less as you would any other C function (except for tiny message loop interface), you've got a rich set of controls, and they are well designed and harmonised with the rest of the programs on the system. X - if you try to program to Xlib directly you're messing about with colur maps and goodness knows what just to get up a window. And if you don't it's dependency land and all that that entails, with some popular widget toolsets but no real standards. And often you find that these will break. However nowadays you can use QT. Which is alot better but still not very well designed with a non-canonical slot / message system and poor facilites for layout. That's why I was driven to write Baby X. A simple clean interface to Xlib that would allow you to get graphics up quickly and easily. You shouldn't have to do that, of course. -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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