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How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?

Started byLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
First post2024-02-09 00:39 +0000
Last post2024-02-16 04:11 +0100
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  How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 00:39 +0000
    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 00:53 +0000
      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 02:10 +0000
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-10 07:31 -0800
    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 01:13 +0000
    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 09:27 +0100
      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 10:16 +0000
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-09 10:36 +0000
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 13:17 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-09 14:08 +0000
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 22:41 +0000
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 23:54 +0000
                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 13:03 +0000
                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 10:46 +0000
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 14:43 +0100
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 14:42 +0100
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:54 +0100
      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 16:35 +0000
      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:09 -0800
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 17:22 +0000
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:34 -0800
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:02 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 19:46 +0100
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 21:48 +0100
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:09 +0100
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:23 +0100
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:37 +0100
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:46 +0100
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 17:38 +0000
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:49 -0800
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:04 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 10:28 -0800
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 18:52 +0000
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 20:20 +0100
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 13:11 -0800
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 23:11 +0100
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 22:14 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? dave_thompson_2@comcast.net - 2024-02-26 04:22 -0500
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-27 12:40 +0100
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-27 13:21 +0000
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-29 21:29 +0000
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 02:37 +0000
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 03:06 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 15:02 +0100
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:46 +0000
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 20:16 -0800
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 20:17 -0800
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 16:53 +0100
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:49 +0000
                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:36 +0100
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:55 +0100
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 13:06 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 16:58 +0100
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:45 +0000
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:49 +0000
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-11 00:11 +0000
                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:50 +0100
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 00:15 +0000
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:45 +0100
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 00:17 +0000
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-11 01:08 +0000
                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 01:18 +0000
                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 17:34 -0800
                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 01:42 +0000
                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 18:00 -0800
                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 05:30 +0000
                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 21:37 -0800
                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:16 +0000
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:12 -0800
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:34 -0800
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:26 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 11:38 +0000
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 14:36 +0100
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 13:57 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 16:04 +0100
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 08:20 -0800
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 08:13 -0800
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 17:43 +0100
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 03:47 +0000
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 20:12 -0800
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:23 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:44 +0000
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:38 -0800
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:43 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-15 15:55 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 08:27 -0800
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 10:06 +0100
                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 16:55 +0000
                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 18:05 +0100
                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 18:00 +0000
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:40 +0100
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 20:27 +0000
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 09:07 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 09:35 +0000
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 11:36 +0100
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 12:12 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 14:15 +0100
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 12:32 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-13 13:56 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 15:10 +0100
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 15:20 +0000
                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:30 +0100
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:35 +0000
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 18:58 +0100
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:27 +0000
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 19:54 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 21:08 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 21:15 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 22:50 +0000
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:45 +0000
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:22 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:43 +0000
                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 12:58 -0800
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 22:56 +0000
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 15:30 -0800
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 02:48 +0000
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 09:35 +0100
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 09:34 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 11:11 +0100
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 10:43 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 13:32 +0100
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-15 08:23 +0100
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:51 +0000
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 17:27 +0000
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:37 +0100
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:46 +0000
                                                          Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 11:30 +0000
                                                            Re: Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-14 14:14 +0200
                                                              Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:46 +0000
                                                              Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 14:17 +0000
                                                                Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 16:03 +0000
                                                                  Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 17:04 +0000
                                                                    Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 17:58 +0000
                                                                      Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 19:35 +0000
                                                                        Re: Building Code Again Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:07 +0000
                                                                          Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 21:01 +0000
                                                                            Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:47 +0000
                                                                              Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 01:07 +0000
                                                                                Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 03:08 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 11:44 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 16:40 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 18:02 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 00:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:45 +0000
                                                                                Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:56 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 10:32 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:41 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:26 +0000
                                                                                Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:10 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 15:36 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Building Code Again David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 22:16 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 21:29 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 00:19 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:42 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 05:53 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 09:54 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:48 +0000
                                                                Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:51 +0000
                                                            Re: Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 13:40 +0100
                                                              Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:13 +0000
                                                            Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:48 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:58 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:47 +0000
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:57 +0000
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 17:29 +0000
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 22:18 +0100
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:14 +0100
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 19:53 -0800
                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:17 +0000
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:42 +0100
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:00 +0100
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-13 22:10 +0000
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 14:19 -0800
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:51 +0000
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:21 -0800
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:54 +0000
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:37 -0800
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:20 +0100
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 13:47 +0000
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                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 20:45 +0000
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:16 +0100
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:39 +0100
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:40 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:46 +0100
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 16:06 +0100
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 18:12 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-18 22:34 +0000
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:06 +0000
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-02-19 00:06 +0000
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 02:26 +0000
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 08:58 +0100
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 14:21 +0000
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                                                                              Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 18:30 +0100
                                                                                Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 05:45 +0000
                                                                                  Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 09:00 +0100
                                                                                    Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 22:37 +0000
                                                                                      Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-21 08:41 +0100
                                                                                  Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 03:27 -0500
                                                                                    Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 22:38 +0000
                                                                                      Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 23:56 -0500
                                                                                  Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 10:09 +0000
                                                                                    Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-20 18:10 +0000
                                                                                      Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-20 18:26 +0000
                                                                                        Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-20 18:30 +0000
                                                                                          Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 18:54 +0000
                                                                                          Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-20 18:59 +0000
                                                                                            Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-20 19:27 +0000
                                                                                              Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 19:35 +0000
                                                                                              Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-20 19:39 +0000
                                                                                                Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 22:43 +0000
                                                                                          Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 22:40 +0000
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                                                                                            Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-21 11:25 -0500
                                                                                        Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 18:51 +0000
                                                                                          Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-21 00:24 -0500
                                                                                        Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-22 01:37 +0100
                                                                                      Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-02-20 18:47 +0000
                                                                                      Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-21 00:14 -0500
                                                                                        Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-21 11:21 +0000
                                                                                  Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 15:49 +0100
                                                                          Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 18:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:16 +0100
                                                                              Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:59 +0000
                                                                              Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 22:36 +0000
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 16:28 +0100
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 18:09 +0100
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 08:04 -0800
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 17:58 -0800
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-02-19 19:21 +0000
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 00:05 +0000
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:37 +0000
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 03:32 -0500
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 17:06 +0000
                                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 12:37 -0500
                                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 19:29 +0000
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:10 +0000
                                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-21 00:34 -0500
                                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 06:20 +0000
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:19 +0100
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 18:19 -0800
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 17:20 +0000
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 09:46 -0800
                                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 19:39 +0000
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 18:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 11:01 -0800
                                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 20:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:03 +0000
                                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-21 00:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 00:45 +0000
                                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-21 01:57 +0000
                                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 06:21 +0000
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-21 09:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 09:06 +0100
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 11:20 +0000
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 13:03 +0100
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-21 01:35 -0800
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 02:43 +0000
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 11:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 13:37 +0000
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:32 +0100
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 17:12 +0000
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-21 09:27 +0100
                                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-21 11:08 +0000
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:43 -0800
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:43 -0800
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:11 -0800
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:13 -0800
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-02-21 01:29 +0000
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 02:12 +0000
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:00 +0100
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 23:41 +0000
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:42 +0000
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 02:14 +0000
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:17 +0000
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:33 +0000
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 16:18 +0100
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 17:55 +0100
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:34 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:46 +0100
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 17:22 -0800
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 07:48 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-18 09:34 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-18 11:30 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 12:00 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.harnden@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-18 12:39 +0000
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:19 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:59 +0100
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:48 +0100
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 16:41 +0000
                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:16 +0000
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 08:54 +0100
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:08 +0000
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 15:23 -0800
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 17:13 -0800
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:04 +0100
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 13:10 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 16:01 +0100
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 15:54 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-17 22:08 +0200
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-17 20:13 +0000
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-17 22:33 +0200
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:52 +0100
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-17 17:35 -0500
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 23:43 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:34 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:59 +0100
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:23 +0000
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:53 +0100
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:38 +0000
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 02:20 +0000
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:19 +0000
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-19 15:15 +0000
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 10:02 +0000
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:36 +0100
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 04:34 +0100
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:18 +0000
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-19 00:39 -0500
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 03:18 -0500
                                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 10:11 +0000
                                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:16 +0000
                                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 23:22 +0000
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 12:20 -0800
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 21:24 +0000
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-16 21:39 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:08 +0000
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 16:52 -0800
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-17 01:43 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.harnden@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-17 10:08 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-18 04:32 -0800
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 14:02 -0800
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:30 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-17 05:07 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:09 +0100
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 13:07 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-17 16:54 +0000
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 18:46 +0100
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-17 19:37 +0000
                                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 16:01 +0100
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:59 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:21 +0100
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 16:47 +0000
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 17:11 +0000
                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-16 08:33 -0800
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-16 17:45 +0000
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-17 15:56 -0800
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:18 +0000
                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 02:29 +0000
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 08:59 +0100
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:11 +0000
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:11 +0100
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:43 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 16:14 +0100
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:39 +0000
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:50 +0100
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:45 +0000
                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 10:01 +0000
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:10 +0000
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:44 +0000
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:42 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 11:09 +0200
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 12:09 +0000
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:54 +0100
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 17:42 +0200
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 17:56 +0000
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:01 +0100
                                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-18 21:07 +0000
                                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:01 +0100
                                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 10:15 +0000
                                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 10:52 +0000
                                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:34 +0000
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 22:20 +0000
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:18 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:52 +0000
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-15 08:00 +0100
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 09:00 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:23 +0100
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:20 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:46 +0100
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-15 06:14 -0800
                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:55 +0100
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 18:11 +0200
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:36 +0100
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:55 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 01:11 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-14 02:19 +0000
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-14 03:02 +0000
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 20:10 -0800
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:14 +0100
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:13 +0100
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:44 +0100
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 09:46 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:26 +0100
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-14 14:36 +0200
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 15:29 +0100
                                          [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-15 07:54 +0100
                                            Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:34 +0100
                                              Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:49 +0100
                                                Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 09:04 +0100
                                                  Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 16:38 +0000
                                                    Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 18:25 +0100
                                                    Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 12:23 -0800
                                                      Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:41 +0000
                                                        Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 15:29 -0800
                                                  Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-02-16 18:11 +0000
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:47 +0000
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:15 +0000
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:48 +0000
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:16 +0000
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:12 +0000
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:03 +0100
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 09:49 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-16 15:35 +0200
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-17 18:54 +0100
                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:52 +0100
                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 13:15 -0800
                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:49 +0100
                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 14:51 -0800
                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 15:33 -0800
                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:09 +0100
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:48 +0000
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:47 +0000
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:57 +0100
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:14 +0000
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:14 +0100
                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:34 +0100
                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 01:21 +0100
                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:59 -0800
                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-14 12:02 +0200
                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:54 +0000
                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 08:03 -0800
                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-14 20:31 +0000
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:53 +0000
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:47 -0800
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:42 +0000
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:40 +0100
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:04 -0800
                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:11 -0800
                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 22:31 -0800
                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-17 16:10 -0800
                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 16:45 -0800
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:35 +0100
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 18:07 -0800
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 06:45 +0100
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-18 12:37 -0500
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:30 +0000
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 06:46 +0100
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 06:12 +0000
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:38 +0100
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 10:57 +0000
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:28 +0000
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 11:02 +0200
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:36 +0100
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 11:01 +0000
                                          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:31 +0100
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 17:43 +0000
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:10 +0000
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:06 +0100
                                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:09 +0000
                                              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:14 +0100
                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:13 +0000
                                                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 07:54 +0000
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 17:48 +0100
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 08:58 -0800
                                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 18:14 +0100
                                                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:31 +0000
                                                    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 09:26 +0100
                                      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 17:58 -0800
                                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 19:17 -0800
                            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:07 -0800
                        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:50 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 15:58 -0800
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:52 +0100
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 18:23 +0200
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 17:06 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:41 +0200
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:31 +0000
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:34 +0000
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 18:40 +0000
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:20 -0800
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:38 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:14 -0800
    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 15:43 +0000
      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 16:57 +0100
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:29 +0100
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:22 +0200
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-13 17:30 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 17:33 +0000
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:49 +0200
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 18:01 +0000
                  Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 20:19 +0200
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 19:02 +0100
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:25 -0800
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 21:54 -0800
              Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 22:17 -0800
                Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-15 06:07 -0800
    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-09 19:47 +0000
      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:31 +0000
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-10 08:05 +0000
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 17:06 +0100
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:39 +0100
    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-11 17:21 +0000
    Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 16:12 -0300
      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 16:15 -0300
      Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:13 +0000
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:09 -0800
        Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:52 +0100
          Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:09 +0000
            Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:11 +0100

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#382497

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2024-02-14 21:53 +0000
Message-ID<BDazN.324763$Wp_8.96522@fx17.iad>
In reply to#382487
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>>On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 16:59:38 -0800
>>>>Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Though personally, I'd probably make the assignment the operand of a
>>>>> larger expression.  I understand that
>>>>>     if (foo)
>>>>> is a common idiom where foo is of any scalar type, but I personally
>>>>> prefer to write one of
>>>>>     if (foo != 0)
>>>>>     if (foo != '\0')
>>>>>     if (foo != 0.0)
>>>>>     if (foo != NULL)
>>>>> because I find it clearer (unless foo is of type bool or is otherwise
>>>>> appropriate to use directly as a condition).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thus if x and y are ints, I'd probably write:
>>>>>     if ((x = y) != 0)
>>>>> (Assuming I'm not required to follow MISRA rules.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> YMMV.
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>Agreed with two small exception:
>>>>(1) I never write '\0' myself always preferring plain 0.
>>>
>>> I'm in Keith's camp here when working with a char type, I'll
>>> use '\0' rather than plain zero.
>>>
>>> I tend to suffix constants as well if they're not being
>>> used as 'int', perhaps a bit too picky?
>>>
>>> uint64_t v;
>>> ...
>>> if (v == 0ul) ...
>>
>> There's no suffix for uint64_t.  0ul is of type unsigned long, which may
>> or may not be the same type as uint64_t.
>>
>> In this particular case, I'd just use 0.  If for some reason I needed to
>> make it explicitly of type uint64_t (say, for an argument to a variadic
>> function), I'd write `(uint64_t)0`.
>
>stdint.h also provides an UINT64_C(...) macro that could be used,
>though, as you say, 0 is really all that's needed in this case.

OTOH, all the systems the code in question run typedef uint64_t to unsigned
long, so the 'ul' suffix works correctly in all forseeable usages in this
application.   And it's less to type than casting.   Granted it's not
particularly meaningful in the 0ul case, but it's a habit that does
come in handy in expressions like

  uint64_t address;
  address = (0xcul << 44) | ((uint64_t)node << 44) | (device << 32) | register_offset;

Yes, a cast on the constant  would work as well.  And yes, a good compiler
will warn if the suffix is missing from the first constant value.

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#382500

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-14 14:47 -0800
Message-ID<87o7ci8xzt.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#382497
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:
>>Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
>>> There's no suffix for uint64_t.  0ul is of type unsigned long, which may
>>> or may not be the same type as uint64_t.
>>>
>>> In this particular case, I'd just use 0.  If for some reason I needed to
>>> make it explicitly of type uint64_t (say, for an argument to a variadic
>>> function), I'd write `(uint64_t)0`.
>>
>>stdint.h also provides an UINT64_C(...) macro that could be used,
>>though, as you say, 0 is really all that's needed in this case.
>
> OTOH, all the systems the code in question run typedef uint64_t to unsigned
> long, so the 'ul' suffix works correctly in all forseeable usages in this
> application.   And it's less to type than casting.   Granted it's not
> particularly meaningful in the 0ul case, but it's a habit that does
> come in handy in expressions like
>
>   uint64_t address;
>   address = (0xcul << 44) | ((uint64_t)node << 44) | (device << 32) | register_offset;
>
> Yes, a cast on the constant  would work as well.  And yes, a good compiler
> will warn if the suffix is missing from the first constant value.

There are certainly systems (including Windows and 32-bit Linux) where
unsigned long is 32 bits.  On such systems uint64_t is likely to be
defined as unsigned long long.  Even where unsigned long is 64 bits, an
implementation could define uint64_t as unsigned long long.

I think it's a bad idea to make assumptions about which underlying types
are used for the fixed-width types.  I might write the above as:

    uint64_t address;
    address = ((uint64_t)0xc << 44) | ((uint64_t)node << 44) | (device << 32) | register_offset;

(I presume device and register_offset are of type uint64_t.)

I don't think I've ever used the UINT64_C() macro, but that's another
possibility.  It's less ugly than the format macros in <inttypes.h>.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#382517

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-02-15 08:42 +0000
Message-ID<uqkios$379pl$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382497
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 21:53:37 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:

>   address = (0xcul << 44) | ((uint64_t)node << 44) | (device << 32) | register_offset;

I did say parenthesis clutter seemed to be a common affliction among C
programmers, didn’t I?

    address = 0xcul << 44 | (uint64_t)node << 44 | device << 32 | register_offset;

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#382534

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2024-02-15 14:40 +0100
Message-ID<uql48p$3athj$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382497
On 14/02/2024 22:53, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> 
> OTOH, all the systems the code in question run typedef uint64_t to unsigned
> long, so the 'ul' suffix works correctly in all forseeable usages in this
> application.   And it's less to type than casting.   Granted it's not
> particularly meaningful in the 0ul case, but it's a habit that does
> come in handy in expressions like
> 
>    uint64_t address;
>    address = (0xcul << 44) | ((uint64_t)node << 44) | (device << 32) | register_offset;
> 
> Yes, a cast on the constant  would work as well.  And yes, a good compiler
> will warn if the suffix is missing from the first constant value.

It would be better to use "ull", since there are lots of systems that 
have 32-bit "long", but "long long" is always going to be at least 
64-bit (and I have never heard of any where it is longer than that).

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#382505

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2024-02-14 22:04 -0800
Message-ID<86frxu1cww.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#382487
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> writes:

> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>>
>>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 16:59:38 -0800
>>>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Though personally, I'd probably make the assignment the operand of a
>>>>> larger expression.  I understand that
>>>>>     if (foo)
>>>>> is a common idiom where foo is of any scalar type, but I personally
>>>>> prefer to write one of
>>>>>     if (foo != 0)
>>>>>     if (foo != '\0')
>>>>>     if (foo != 0.0)
>>>>>     if (foo != NULL)
>>>>> because I find it clearer (unless foo is of type bool or is otherwise
>>>>> appropriate to use directly as a condition).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus if x and y are ints, I'd probably write:
>>>>>     if ((x = y) != 0)
>>>>> (Assuming I'm not required to follow MISRA rules.)
>>>>>
>>>>> YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed with two small exception:
>>>> (1) I never write '\0' myself always preferring plain 0.
>>>
>>> I'm in Keith's camp here when working with a char type, I'll
>>> use '\0' rather than plain zero.
>>>
>>> I tend to suffix constants as well if they're not being
>>> used as 'int', perhaps a bit too picky?
>>>
>>> uint64_t v;
>>> ...
>>> if (v == 0ul) ...
>>
>> There's no suffix for uint64_t.  0ul is of type unsigned long,
>> which may or may not be the same type as uint64_t.
>>
>> In this particular case, I'd just use 0.  If for some reason I
>> needed to make it explicitly of type uint64_t (say, for an argument
>> to a variadic function), I'd write `(uint64_t)0`.
>
> stdint.h also provides an UINT64_C(...) macro that could be used,
> though, as you say, 0 is really all that's needed in this case.

Using UINT64_C(...) to make a constant of type uint64_t is a bit
too sneaky for my taste.  Despite what may appear to the be case,
UINT64_C(...) produces a constant of type uint_least64_t, not
uint64_t.  Of course if the implementation does have a uint64_t
type, then UINT64_C(...) will have the same width (but not
necessarily the same type) as uint64_t, but the roundabout logic
still bothers me.

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#382507

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2024-02-14 22:11 -0800
Message-ID<867cj61ckn.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#382478
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>
>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 16:59:38 -0800
>>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Though personally, I'd probably make the assignment the operand
>>>> of a larger expression.  I understand that
>>>>     if (foo)
>>>> is a common idiom where foo is of any scalar type, but I
>>>> personally prefer to write one of
>>>>     if (foo != 0)
>>>>     if (foo != '\0')
>>>>     if (foo != 0.0)
>>>>     if (foo != NULL)
>>>> because I find it clearer (unless foo is of type bool or is
>>>> otherwise appropriate to use directly as a condition).
>>>>
>>>> Thus if x and y are ints, I'd probably write:
>>>>     if ((x = y) != 0)
>>>> (Assuming I'm not required to follow MISRA rules.)
>>>>
>>>> YMMV.
>>>
>>> Agreed with two small exception:
>>> (1) I never write '\0' myself always preferring plain 0.
>>
>> I'm in Keith's camp here when working with a char type, I'll
>> use '\0' rather than plain zero.
>>
>> I tend to suffix constants as well if they're not being
>> used as 'int', perhaps a bit too picky?
>>
>> uint64_t v;
>> ...
>> if (v == 0ul) ...
>
> There's no suffix for uint64_t.  0ul is of type unsigned long,
> which may or may not be the same type as uint64_t.
>
> In this particular case, I'd just use 0.  If for some reason I
> needed to make it explicitly of type uint64_t (say, for an
> argument to a variadic function), I'd write `(uint64_t)0`.

Ick.  At least write '(uint64_t){ 0 }' rather than casting.

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#382510

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-14 22:31 -0800
Message-ID<87bk8i8ci1.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#382507
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
>> In this particular case, I'd just use 0.  If for some reason I
>> needed to make it explicitly of type uint64_t (say, for an
>> argument to a variadic function), I'd write `(uint64_t)0`.
>
> Ick.  At least write '(uint64_t){ 0 }' rather than casting.

Why?

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#382644

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2024-02-17 16:10 -0800
Message-ID<86plwuy6n5.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#382510
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>
>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> In this particular case, I'd just use 0.  If for some reason I
>>> needed to make it explicitly of type uint64_t (say, for an
>>> argument to a variadic function), I'd write `(uint64_t)0`.
>>
>> Ick.  At least write '(uint64_t){ 0 }' rather than casting.
>
> Why?

Casts are dangerous.  Besides being dangerous, in many cases
casts are accidents waiting to happen.  Writing casts at the drop
of a hat is a bad habit.  A good programming practice is to avoid
using a cast whenever feasible.  Using a compound literal isn't a
lot better than just a raw cast, but it does at least provide a
little extra safety because it allows only "safe" conversions.
Seeing a cast in open code should always raise a red flag,
especially when, as in this case, it's easy to find a safer
alternative.

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#382645

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-17 16:45 -0800
Message-ID<87ttm67g76.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#382644
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>> [...]
>>
>>>> In this particular case, I'd just use 0.  If for some reason I
>>>> needed to make it explicitly of type uint64_t (say, for an
>>>> argument to a variadic function), I'd write `(uint64_t)0`.
>>>
>>> Ick.  At least write '(uint64_t){ 0 }' rather than casting.
>>
>> Why?
>
> Casts are dangerous.  Besides being dangerous, in many cases
> casts are accidents waiting to happen.  Writing casts at the drop
> of a hat is a bad habit.  A good programming practice is to avoid
> using a cast whenever feasible.  Using a compound literal isn't a
> lot better than just a raw cast, but it does at least provide a
> little extra safety because it allows only "safe" conversions.
> Seeing a cast in open code should always raise a red flag,
> especially when, as in this case, it's easy to find a safer
> alternative.

I disagree in this case.  Yes, casts certainly can be dangerous,
especially those involving pointers, and I'd say that all casts should
be looked on with some suspicion.  But anyone who knows C can recognize
that casting a constant 0 to an integer type is not in any way
dangerous.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#382649

FromJanis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Date2024-02-18 02:35 +0100
Message-ID<uqrmta$mpna$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382645
On 18.02.2024 01:45, Keith Thompson wrote:
> [...]  But anyone who knows C can recognize
> that casting a constant 0 to an integer type is not in any way
> dangerous.

That's what I'd expect. Moreover...

I recall that we had used the _specific literal constant_ 0 as a
"universal" constant to all integral types, floats, and pointers
without cast.[*] That was in the 1990's. Are there meanwhile any
restrictions on using 0 without cast?

Janis

[*] I anyway preferred '\0', 0.0, or a 'null' constant definition
for pointers.

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#382651

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-17 18:07 -0800
Message-ID<87le7i7ce8.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#382649
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
> On 18.02.2024 01:45, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> [...]  But anyone who knows C can recognize
>> that casting a constant 0 to an integer type is not in any way
>> dangerous.
>
> That's what I'd expect. Moreover...
>
> I recall that we had used the _specific literal constant_ 0 as a
> "universal" constant to all integral types, floats, and pointers
> without cast.[*] That was in the 1990's. Are there meanwhile any
> restrictions on using 0 without cast?

0 is of type int.  In most contexts, it will be implicitly converted to
any scalar type -- which is why { 0 } is a valid initializer for any
type (C23 will allow {}).  The problem is contexts where that conversion
doesn't occur.  The most common is an argument to a variadic function;
for example printf("%ld\n", 0) has undefined behavior.  A less common
case is a call to a function with an old-style non-prototype
declaration.

> [*] I anyway preferred '\0', 0.0, or a 'null' constant definition
> for pointers.

I presume you mean NULL (and C23 adds nullptr).  But note that NULL
requires a cast in some cases, like printf("%p\n", (void*)NULL);

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#382660

FromJanis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Date2024-02-18 06:45 +0100
Message-ID<uqs5hc$thc1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382651
On 18.02.2024 03:07, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
>> On 18.02.2024 01:45, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> [...]  But anyone who knows C can recognize
>>> that casting a constant 0 to an integer type is not in any way
>>> dangerous.
>>
>> That's what I'd expect. Moreover...
>>
>> I recall that we had used the _specific literal constant_ 0 as a
>> "universal" constant to all integral types, floats, and pointers
>> without cast.[*] That was in the 1990's. Are there meanwhile any
>> restrictions on using 0 without cast?
> 
> 0 is of type int.  In most contexts, it will be implicitly converted to
> any scalar type -- which is why { 0 } is a valid initializer for any
> type (C23 will allow {}). 

What I had in mind was not the implicit cast from any integer literal
to other scalar types. But back these days the folks who handled that
told us that the 0 was a specific value, especially in the context of
pointers (where, IIRC, the NULL pointer could have a non-0 decimal
value, but using 0 would not act as decimal 0 but as NULL-pointer).
In other words; however NULL was defined you could use p=NULL or p=0
with the same result.
(But since this had been just second hand information that I hadn't
checked myself I'm asking.)

> The problem is contexts where that conversion
> doesn't occur.  The most common is an argument to a variadic function;
> for example printf("%ld\n", 0) has undefined behavior. 

Yes. If I'm using modifiers like 'l' I also use variables (or values
with suffix) of appropriate type. (In C++ we didn't care with type
safe stream output.)

> A less common
> case is a call to a function with an old-style non-prototype
> declaration.

(I use only declared functions.)

> 
>> [*] I anyway preferred '\0', 0.0, or a 'null' constant definition
>> for pointers.
> 
> I presume you mean NULL (and C23 adds nullptr). 

No. Using NULL was disputed but dismissed in favor of an own 'null'
definition. But I don't recall anymore what the reason for it was.
It was part of a class library that had been developed centrally.

(BTW, all I said was in a C++ context (not C), in case it matters.)

> But note that NULL
> requires a cast in some cases, like printf("%p\n", (void*)NULL);

Janis

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#382697

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2024-02-18 12:37 -0500
Message-ID<uqtf9e$1c5rj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382660
On 2/18/24 00:45, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> On 18.02.2024 03:07, Keith Thompson wrote:
...
>> 0 is of type int.  In most contexts, it will be implicitly converted to
>> any scalar type -- which is why { 0 } is a valid initializer for any
>> type (C23 will allow {}). 
> 
> What I had in mind was not the implicit cast from any integer literal
> to other scalar types. But back these days the folks who handled that
> told us that the 0 was a specific value, especially in the context of
> pointers (where, IIRC, the NULL pointer could have a non-0 decimal
> value, but using 0 would not act as decimal 0 but as NULL-pointer).
> In other words; however NULL was defined you could use p=NULL or p=0
> with the same result.
> (But since this had been just second hand information that I hadn't
> checked myself I'm asking.)

What you're thinking about is called a null pointer constant(NPC). 0 is
the simplest NPC, but any integer constant expression with a value of 0,
or such an expression cast to (void*), also qualifies as a null pointer
constant. In many contexts, a null pointer constant gets implicitly
converted to a null pointer of the the appropriate type. In C2023,
nullptr also counts as an NPC.

Note that an integer expression with a value of 0 that does NOT qualify
as an integer constant expression therefore also does not qualify as an
NPC. (void*)n when n happens to be 0 might or might not be a null pointer.

All null pointers must compare equal to each other, and are prohibited
from comparing equal to a pointer to any object or function. In
particular, this means that any null pointer must compare equal to 0.
However, null pointers need not be represented by all bits zero, and
there can be multiple different representations of a null pointer in any
given type.

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#382655

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-02-18 02:30 +0000
Message-ID<uqrq3g$n43b$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382649
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 02:35:37 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

> I recall that we had used the _specific literal constant_ 0 as a
> "universal" constant to all integral types, floats, and pointers without
> cast.[*] That was in the 1990's.

That is still true in the C spec today. Note that “0” as a pointer does 
not mean that the address value has to be zero: the implementation is 
expected to convert the integer literal 0 to whatever address value is 
meant to be interpreted as “no such address”.

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#382661

FromJanis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Date2024-02-18 06:46 +0100
Message-ID<uqs5jt$thc1$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382655
On 18.02.2024 03:30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 02:35:37 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> 
>> I recall that we had used the _specific literal constant_ 0 as a
>> "universal" constant to all integral types, floats, and pointers without
>> cast.[*] That was in the 1990's.
> 
> That is still true in the C spec today. Note that “0” as a pointer does 
> not mean that the address value has to be zero: the implementation is 
> expected to convert the integer literal 0 to whatever address value is 
> meant to be interpreted as “no such address”.

This is exactly what I was remembering. Thanks for the confirmation.

Janis

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#382662

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-02-18 06:12 +0000
Message-ID<uqs758$tq3v$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382661
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 06:46:36 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

> This is exactly what I was remembering.

This is why it helps to keep a copy of the docs handy.

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#382683

FromJanis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Date2024-02-18 15:38 +0100
Message-ID<uqt4pf$16g6i$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382662
On 18.02.2024 07:12, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 06:46:36 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> 
>> This is exactly what I was remembering.
> 
> This is why it helps to keep a copy of the docs handy.

???

Janis

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#382668

FromMalcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-18 10:57 +0000
Message-ID<uqsnqk$10l39$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382661
On 18/02/2024 05:46, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> On 18.02.2024 03:30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 02:35:37 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>>
>>> I recall that we had used the _specific literal constant_ 0 as a
>>> "universal" constant to all integral types, floats, and pointers without
>>> cast.[*] That was in the 1990's.
>>
>> That is still true in the C spec today. Note that “0” as a pointer does
>> not mean that the address value has to be zero: the implementation is
>> expected to convert the integer literal 0 to whatever address value is
>> meant to be interpreted as “no such address”.
> 
> This is exactly what I was remembering. Thanks for the confirmation.
> 
> Janis
> 
Yes, The practical implication of that is that memset(ptr, 0, 
sizeof(MYSTRUCT)) may fail unexectedly if MYSTRUCT contains pointers.

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#382654

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-02-18 02:28 +0000
Message-ID<uqrq0g$n43b$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#382645
On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 16:45:49 -0800, Keith Thompson wrote:

> Yes, casts certainly can be dangerous ...

This is why C++ defined four different kinds of casting. The dangerous one 
is called “reinterpret_cast”, while the others are much safer to use.

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#382664

FromMichael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Date2024-02-18 11:02 +0200
Message-ID<20240218110243.00007700@yahoo.com>
In reply to#382654
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 02:28:33 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Feb 2024 16:45:49 -0800, Keith Thompson wrote:
> 
> > Yes, casts certainly can be dangerous ...  
> 
> This is why C++ defined four different kinds of casting. The
> dangerous one is called “reinterpret_cast”, while the others are much
> safer to use.

Potential usefulness of the distinction almost fully nullified both
by retention of C-style cast and by presence of similarly omnipotent
function-style cast that C++ added on its own.

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