Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.c > #391319 > unrolled thread

Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?

Started byDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
First post2025-03-18 21:38 -0400
Last post2025-03-23 12:29 -0400
Articles 20 on this page of 422 — 23 participants

Back to article view | Back to comp.lang.c


Contents

  Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-18 21:38 -0400
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 19:05 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 19:22 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-18 22:43 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 20:11 -0700
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-18 20:07 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-18 23:34 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 04:01 +0000
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 00:38 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-18 22:27 -0700
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 13:23 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-19 13:40 -0400
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 11:56 -0700
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 15:06 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-19 12:52 -0700
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 11:55 +0200
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 13:23 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 17:38 +0000
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 20:19 +0200
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 19:03 +0000
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 05:09 -0700
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 12:23 +0000
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-20 13:36 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 14:00 +0000
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-20 14:32 +0000
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 15:11 +0000
                            Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 16:37 +0100
                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-24 16:14 +0000
                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:20 +0100
                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-24 21:56 -0700
                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:45 +0100
                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-25 09:08 +0100
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 19:55 +0100
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 09:18 +0100
                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 08:39 +0000
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 03:51 -0700
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 13:11 +0200
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 05:02 -0700
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-25 16:33 +0100
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:04 +0100
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 09:23 +0100
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:31 -0700
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 09:34 +0100
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 02:59 -0700
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 12:33 +0100
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:59 +0100
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:37 +0100
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 12:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 22:53 +0100
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:15 -0700
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-27 10:11 +0100
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 18:25 +0100
                                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-29 18:20 +0000
                                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-30 01:39 +0100
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-03-31 17:15 +0000
                                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-31 19:48 +0000
                                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-31 21:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 14:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-26 14:07 -0400
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 17:58 +0000
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-26 14:20 -0400
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 12:42 -0700
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 17:36 +0000
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-27 13:48 -0400
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-27 18:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-29 10:14 -0400
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-29 16:39 +0000
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-29 21:02 -0400
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:31 -0700
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-27 20:06 +0000
                                                      Newsgroup etiquette Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-28 11:03 -0700
                                                        Re: Newsgroup etiquette Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-28 18:39 +0000
                                                          Re: Newsgroup etiquette Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 18:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Newsgroup etiquette Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-27 12:28 -0700
                                                            Re: Newsgroup etiquette Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 14:40 -0700
                                                            Re: Newsgroup etiquette Ethan Carter <ec1828@somewhere.edu> - 2025-04-28 00:59 -0300
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:58 +0100
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 19:09 +0200
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-25 17:34 +0000
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 19:49 +0000
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 12:53 -0700
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:39 -0700
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-07 00:04 -0800
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 13:23 -0700
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 09:50 +0100
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 16:22 +0000
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-25 18:18 +0000
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 19:55 +0100
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:41 -0700
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 23:35 +0100
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 16:38 -0700
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-25 19:55 -0400
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 10:00 +0100
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 16:01 +0200
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 14:45 +0000
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 17:16 +0200
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-26 08:55 -0700
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:45 +0100
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 17:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 17:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:40 +0100
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 17:25 +0000
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 21:27 +0100
                                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 20:34 +0000
                                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 13:50 -0700
                                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 21:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 14:12 -0700
                                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 21:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 23:22 +0200
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-26 14:38 -0400
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 18:52 +0000
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:32 +0100
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-26 22:29 +0000
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-26 14:31 -0400
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 21:33 +0100
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 15:42 +0000
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-25 19:52 -0400
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 17:16 -0700
                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 04:55 -0700
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:48 -0700
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-25 21:52 +0000
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 22:36 +0000
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-25 23:14 +0000
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 10:09 +0100
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-03 20:03 -0700
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-04 14:04 +0200
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-04 15:43 +0100
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-04 18:39 +0200
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-04 19:02 +0100
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-05 11:29 +0200
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-15 23:02 -0700
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 14:50 +0000
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 16:59 +0200
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 15:16 +0000
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 17:29 +0200
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 15:55 +0000
                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 11:01 +0200
                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-23 12:56 -0700
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 11:47 -0700
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:28 -0700
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 15:40 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 15:57 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 20:46 +0200
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 19:15 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 19:58 +0000
                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 22:57 +0200
                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 21:10 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 16:10 -0700
                                  The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 16:59 +0100
                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 15:57 -0700
                                      Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-25 10:38 +0100
                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 16:31 +0000
                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-25 19:23 +0100
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:14 -0700
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 23:50 -0700
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 10:33 +0100
                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 19:18 +0100
                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 18:50 +0000
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:45 +0100
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 23:30 +0000
                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 14:59 +0100
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 11:29 +0100
                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:08 +0100
                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:50 +0100
                                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:09 +0100
                                                      Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 21:39 +0100
                                                      Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-26 23:21 +0000
                                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-26 23:51 +0000
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-27 00:32 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 13:51 +0000
                                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-27 01:10 +0000
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-27 01:33 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-27 10:54 +0100
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 14:09 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-28 17:49 +0000
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 14:07 +0000
                                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-27 03:24 +0100
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-27 11:14 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 14:14 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 02:05 +0100
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 10:13 +0100
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 11:22 +0100
                                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 14:32 +0300
                                                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 13:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 11:37 +0000
                                                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 13:53 +0100
                                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 13:00 +0100
                                                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 14:06 +0100
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 10:05 -0700
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 12:19 +0000
                                                              [OT] PC hardware prices [correction] (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-31 21:35 +0200
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-27 15:04 +0100
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 02:59 +0100
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 19:03 -0700
                                                                [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 03:26 +0100
                                                                  Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 23:14 -0700
                                                                  Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 13:26 +0300
                                                                    Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 13:08 +0100
                                                                      Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 15:20 +0300
                                                                        Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 15:33 +0100
                                                                          Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 10:26 -0700
                                                                            Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 10:27 -0700
                                                                            Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 18:44 +0000
                                                                          Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 17:46 +0000
                                                                      Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 17:45 +0000
                                                                    Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 13:20 +0100
                                                                      Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 15:56 +0300
                                                                        Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 14:20 +0100
                                                                          Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 15:43 +0100
                                                                        Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 17:54 +0000
                                                                  Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 10:16 -0700
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 11:03 +0100
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 14:01 +0300
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 11:29 +0000
                                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 12:46 +0100
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 12:30 +0100
                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 11:10 +0100
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-26 11:02 +0000
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 12:47 +0100
                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-26 13:12 +0000
                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 14:48 +0100
                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:40 +0100
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 18:29 +0000
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:22 +0100
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 13:09 -0700
                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:16 -0700
                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 11:33 +0100
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:22 -0700
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:10 -0700
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 20:59 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 16:18 -0700
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 23:55 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-21 00:46 +0000
                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-21 01:23 +0000
                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 18:47 -0700
                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-21 11:53 +0000
                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:04 -0700
                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 00:23 +0000
                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 20:50 -0700
                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 13:06 +0000
                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 14:51 -0700
                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 14:52 -0700
                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-23 01:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 10:50 +0200
                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-23 11:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 14:12 +0200
                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-24 12:51 +0100
                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 14:07 +0000
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-24 15:32 +0100
                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-24 15:00 +0000
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-24 17:22 +0200
                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-24 16:12 +0000
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 16:02 +0000
                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-24 16:17 +0000
                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 16:49 +0000
                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-24 16:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 18:20 +0000
                                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 08:40 +0000
                                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 11:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 14:46 +0000
                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 15:04 +0000
                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 15:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 16:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-26 09:20 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-26 10:07 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 18:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-27 00:22 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 14:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-27 10:54 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-28 16:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 16:40 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-28 20:41 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 22:18 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 15:33 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 22:48 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 16:53 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-29 00:32 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 18:50 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-29 16:24 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-29 13:37 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-29 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-29 17:23 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-29 18:11 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-28 10:57 -0700
                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 16:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 13:29 +0200
                                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 14:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 17:14 +0200
                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 16:37 +0000
                                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 19:00 +0200
                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-24 17:15 +0000
                                                                    Code-change-to-run times (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:44 +0100
                                                                      Re: Code-change-to-run times (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-24 23:06 +0200
                                                                        Re: Code-change-to-run times (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:44 +0100
                                                                          Re: Code-change-to-run times (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 13:00 +0200
                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 21:16 +0000
                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 08:41 +0000
                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 11:04 +0000
                                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 14:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-25 13:51 +0000
                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 14:22 +0000
                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-24 17:10 +0200
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-24 19:07 +0100
                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-24 15:44 +0000
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 11:27 -0700
                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 20:13 +0000
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-24 23:01 +0200
                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 11:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-24 15:42 +0000
                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 11:27 -0700
                                                    Compiler speed (ad nauseam) (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:01 +0100
                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-24 19:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 00:53 +0000
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:00 -0700
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-24 21:50 -0700
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:19 +0100
                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-22 14:41 +0100
                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 11:41 +0200
                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:13 -0700
                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 23:19 +0200
                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-22 07:05 -0700
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-22 02:37 +0000
                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 12:20 +0000
                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-22 13:50 +0000
                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 15:47 +0000
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 17:00 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 15:31 -0700
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-21 17:51 +0000
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-21 18:51 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 02:16 +0000
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-22 04:15 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 21:24 -0700
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-22 14:07 +0000
                                  Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 02:04 +0100
                                    Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-25 22:35 -0400
                                      Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 12:40 +0100
                                        Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 14:47 +0100
                                          Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:55 +0100
                                        Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 19:36 +0200
                                      Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-26 13:44 +0000
                                        Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 16:19 +0100
                                    Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-26 02:37 +0000
                                      Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 14:42 +0100
                                    Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-26 19:01 +0100
                                    Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 18:49 +0000
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 00:01 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-22 01:41 +0000
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-22 14:22 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-22 14:32 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 16:25 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 16:35 +0200
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 14:42 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 16:20 +0000
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 11:33 -0700
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:07 -0700
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-19 12:59 -0700
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 22:12 +0200
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 05:19 -0700
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 20:26 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 00:42 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 04:51 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 01:02 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 05:23 +0000
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 06:06 -0700
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-20 13:27 +0000
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 16:50 +0200
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 11:24 -0700
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-20 18:53 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 16:56 -0700
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-22 16:46 -0700
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-23 08:25 +0000
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 12:06 +0200
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-23 10:15 +0000
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-23 12:35 -0700
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-24 13:09 +0100
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-03-22 19:07 +1100
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-22 13:25 +0000
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 19:12 +0200
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 +0200
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-22 17:22 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-22 10:29 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-03-25 21:41 +1100
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-22 14:30 +0000
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-22 11:31 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 19:19 +0200
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 14:54 -0700
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2025-03-19 07:16 +0000
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 01:53 -0700
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 16:45 -0400
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 21:21 +0000
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 21:35 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 14:56 -0700
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 22:34 -0400
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 19:46 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 11:25 -0400
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-19 10:15 +0000
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 12:40 +0200
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-19 17:42 +0100
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 09:03 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-19 14:40 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 17:39 +0200
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-19 15:42 +0000
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +1100
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-22 10:19 +0000
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 11:05 +1100
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2025-03-23 16:22 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-19 13:13 -0700
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 09:50 +0000
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 04:59 -0700
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 16:14 +0000
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 16:29 +0000
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 16:49 +0000
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-21 09:09 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-21 17:12 +0000
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 12:36 +0200
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 09:13 -0400
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 05:15 -0700
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:14 -0700
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-21 00:05 -0700
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-21 07:48 +0000
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 13:32 -0500
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-23 12:29 -0400

Page 5 of 22 — ← Prev page 1 … 3 4 [5] 6 7 … 22  Next page →


#391631 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-25 12:53 -0700
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<867c4ckhtd.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391620
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 05:02:45 -0700
> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 08:39:04 -0000 (UTC)
>>> Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-03-25, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 25.03.2025 05:56, Tim Rentsch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I started with "C" or C++ there were not only 8-bit
>>>>>>> multiples defined for the integral types;  [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In C the correct phrase is integer types, not integral types.
>>>>>
>>>>> My apologies if I'm using language independent terms.  I'm
>>>>> confident, though, that most people (obviously you as well)
>>>>> understood the term.
>>>>
>>>> You are 100% correct.  You made it clear that you're referring
>>>> to a time /when you started with C/. I remember from past
>>>> discussions that this was sufficiently long ago that it was ISO
>>>> C90 or ANSI C, if not earlier.
>>>>
>>>> In ISO 9899:1990, we have this:
>>>>
>>>>   6.1.2.5 Types
>>>>
>>>>   [...]
>>>>
>>>>   "The type char, the signed and unsigned integer types.  and the
>>>>   enumerated types are collectively called integral types."
>>>>                                            ^^^^^^^^
>>>>
>>>> The integral types were renamed between C90 and C99.  However,
>>>> "integral types" remains part of C history.  C90 is a still valid,
>>>> historic and historically significant dialect of C.
>>>>
>>>> Even today, it is misleading to say that "integral types"
>>>> is an incorrect way to talk about C. It's a terminology that
>>>> has been formally superseded since C90.  However, it is a term
>>>> used in computer science and mathematics, and fine for informal
>>>> discussions that don't revolve around language-lawyering.
>>>>
>>>> The word has two pronunciations in English.  When the emphasis is
>>>> on the first syllalble:  IN-tgrl, it is a noun which refers to the
>>>> opposite of a calculus derivative.  The integral of x^2 from 0 to
>>>> 1, etc.  in-TE-gral is an adjective, which is is a common
>>>> words---it's an integral part of everyday English, meaning
>>>> indivisible from.  In math and CS it is used for indicating that
>>>> some quantity is in Z.
>>>
>>> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?
>>
>> "Whole numbers" are all non-negative.
>>
>> "Integers" include values less than zero.
>
> Sounds like English everyday use differs from two other languages that
> I know relatively well in both of which "whole" numbers include
> negatives.

My native language is US English.  I have taken classes
in two other languages, but don't know either well
enough to say how "whole number" is understood in them.

When I was in grade school, I was taught that "natural
numbers" are numbers like 1, 2, 3, ...  Shortly after, and
probably the same day, I was taught that "whole numbers"
are the natural numbers plus zero.  Someone who is a
contemporary of mine told me recently that there was a
mnemonic:  "whole" numbers include zero because of the O
(letter oh) in "whole".

This question came up recently with another friend, who was
in grade school (in the US) at roughly the same time that
I was.  Talking with him, I learned that more recent usage,
at least some more recent usage, uses "whole numbers" for
integers starting at 1, and "natural numbers" for integers
starting at 0.

I have never heard anyone who grew up speaking US English
use "whole number" to include the possibility of negative
numbers.  In fact I don't remember anyone use "whole number"
to include negative numbers, no matter what their native
language is (or native languages are).  It occurs to me
that there is someone I could ask, if I knew how to get
in touch, and get a reliable answer - the most polyglot
person I have ever met (more than two dozen languages).
But I can't do that anytime soon.

I should note that "whole numbers" was taught as a compound
noun, in the same way that "natural numbers" was taught as
a compound noun, and sometimes the phrase "counting numbers"
was used as a compound noun, meaning the numbers used to
count, starting at one.  Note also that these compound nouns
are always used in the plural:  "natural numbers", "whole
numbers", and "counting numbers".  The leading word is not
being used as an adjective, but just as a way of indicating
which set a number belongs to.

Returning to the original question, the point is that,
when considered as adjectives, "integer" and "integral"
mean very different things.  The function sin is a
real-valued function, and consequently sin(pi) yields
an integral value, but it does not yield an integer
value.  "Integer" used as an adjective is about what
/kind/ of number is being considered, whereas "integral"
used as an adjective is about what /value/ is produced.
An _integer_ expression always yields an _integral_ value,
but an expression that produces an _integral_ value is not
necessarily an _integer_ expression - it could be a real
expression, or even a complex expression, that just happens
to yield a value that is equal to an integer.

All of the foregoing represents my best understanding of how
these words are used, in learned mathematical discourse.
And I believe the same understanding underlies the decision
to change "integral" in C90 to "integer" in C99.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391636 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-25 13:39 -0700
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<87ecyk7sm2.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#391631
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
[...]
> Returning to the original question, the point is that,
> when considered as adjectives, "integer" and "integral"
> mean very different things.

They can, but they don't necessarily do so, and it's important to
acknowledge that common usage is not consistent.

C90 referred to "integral types".  C99 changed that to "integer
types".  C++ defines "integral types" and then defines "integer
types" as a synonym.  Both terms are valid.

I prefer to use the terms defined by the language standard when
discussing a given language, but in practice "integer" and "integral"
are used synonymously.  The reference to "integral types" in this
thread was probably worth a brief note, but it was absolutely clear
what was meant.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#396636 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2026-02-07 00:04 -0800
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<86sebdges6.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391636
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> [...]
>
>> Returning to the original question, the point is that,
>> when considered as adjectives, "integer" and "integral"
>> mean very different things.
>
> They can, but they don't necessarily do so, and it's important to
> acknowledge that common usage is not consistent.
>
> C90 referred to "integral types".  C99 changed that to "integer
> types".  C++ defines "integral types" and then defines "integer
> types" as a synonym.  Both terms are valid.
>
> I prefer to use the terms defined by the language standard when
> discussing a given language, but in practice "integer" and "integral"
> are used synonymously.  [...]

Only by people who are careless in their use of language.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391634 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-25 13:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<86zfh8j1vm.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391620
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 05:02:45 -0700
> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
[...]
>>> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?
>>
>> "Whole numbers" are all non-negative.
>>
>> "Integers" include values less than zero.
>
> Sounds like English everyday use differs from two other languages that
> I know relatively well in both of which "whole" numbers include
> negatives.

Addendum:  doing a web search for "whole numbers" turned up several
pages that gave a definition for the term, and in all cases the
set of numbers identified included all and only the non-negative
integers (typical definition was "counting numbers plus zero").

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391655 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2025-03-26 09:50 +0100
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vs0f3r$1avlb$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391620
On 25/03/2025 18:09, Michael S wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 05:02:45 -0700
> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
> 
>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>>

>>> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?
>>>   
>>
>> "Whole numbers" are all non-negative.
>>
>> "Integers" include values less than zero.
> 
> Thank you.
> Sounds like English everyday use differs from two other languages that
> I know relatively well in both of which "whole" numbers include
> negatives.
> 

In the only non-English language that I know well, Norwegian, the direct 
equivalent of "whole numbers" is used for the mathematical concept of 
"integer".  The equivalent of "natural numbers" matches the term in 
English - the non-negative integers with or without including zero, 
depending on the habits and preferences of the user.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391615 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-03-25 16:22 +0000
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<20250325091721.977@kylheku.com>
In reply to#391599
On 2025-03-25, Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wrote:
[re: "integral"]

> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?

The everyday adjective "integral" is not used in a mathematical
sense of denoting integers; e.g. "vitamin C is an integral part
of a human diet" doesn't mean "whole number part of a human diet".

Sure, the adjective "whole" serves informally as "integral";
as in 2 3/4 has a whole part of 2, and a fractional part of 3/4.

-- 
TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr
Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391623 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromRichard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid>
Date2025-03-25 18:18 +0000
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vrus20$3s4f6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391615
On 25/03/2025 16:22, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2025-03-25, Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [re: "integral"]
> 
>> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?
> 
> The everyday adjective "integral" is not used in a mathematical
> sense of denoting integers; e.g. "vitamin C is an integral part
> of a human diet" doesn't mean "whole number part of a human diet".
> 
> Sure, the adjective "whole" serves informally as "integral";
> as in 2 3/4 has a whole part of 2, and a fractional part of 3/4.
> 

When I see 'integral', I think of calculus.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391627 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromJanis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Date2025-03-25 19:55 +0100
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vruu75$3umpc$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391599
On 25.03.2025 12:11, Michael S wrote:
>> [...]
> 
> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?

If I speak about numbers I name them so; "numbers", "whole numbers",
"integer numbers", "real numbers" (not "floating point numbers").
Sometimes, depending on context, I use the term "scalar". When I'm
speaking about "integral types" I don't restrict that term to numbers.

Janis

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391637 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-25 13:41 -0700
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<87a5987sh8.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#391627
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
> On 25.03.2025 12:11, Michael S wrote:
>>> [...]
>> 
>> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?
>
> If I speak about numbers I name them so; "numbers", "whole numbers",
> "integer numbers", "real numbers" (not "floating point numbers").
> Sometimes, depending on context, I use the term "scalar". When I'm
> speaking about "integral types" I don't restrict that term to numbers.

Real numbers and floating-point numbers have different meanings, both in
C and in general.

In C, both integer and floating-point types are "real" (as opposed
to complex or imaginary), though I consider this use of "real" to
be a bit obscure.  Ada has distinct floating-point and fixed-point
types, which together are real types.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391640 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromJanis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Date2025-03-25 23:35 +0100
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vrvb3o$aoc0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391637
On 25.03.2025 21:41, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
>> On 25.03.2025 12:11, Michael S wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Wouldn't the term 'whole numbers' be preferred in everyday English?
>>
>> If I speak about numbers I name them so; "numbers", "whole numbers",
>> "integer numbers", "real numbers" (not "floating point numbers").
>> Sometimes, depending on context, I use the term "scalar". When I'm
>> speaking about "integral types" I don't restrict that term to numbers.
> 
> Real numbers and floating-point numbers have different meanings, both in
> C and in general.
> 
> In C, both integer and floating-point types are "real" (as opposed
> to complex or imaginary), though I consider this use of "real" to
> be a bit obscure.  [...]

In my native language (and also what I inferred from some posts here
about the English language) I see differences between three domains;
colloquial language, mathematics, and computer terms. These terms are
not (not completely) coherently defined across the domains it seems.
The solution is to try to use the words for the discussion from the
appropriate domain (in both languages). For me there's an additional
practical fact to keep in mind; that what we call "Ganzzahl" (whole
numbers) isn't corresponding to what "whole number" means in English,
as I learned.

Janis

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391644 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-25 16:38 -0700
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<871puk7kae.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#391640
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
[...]
>                                         For me there's an additional
> practical fact to keep in mind; that what we call "Ganzzahl" (whole
> numbers) isn't corresponding to what "whole number" means in English,

What "whole numbers" means in English doesn't necessarily correspond to
what "whole numbers" means in English.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391646 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2025-03-25 19:55 -0400
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vrvfp9$dob8$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391644
On 3/25/25 19:38, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
> [...]
>>                                         For me there's an additional
>> practical fact to keep in mind; that what we call "Ganzzahl" (whole
>> numbers) isn't corresponding to what "whole number" means in English,
> 
> What "whole numbers" means in English doesn't necessarily correspond to
> what "whole numbers" means in English.

According to the Wikipedia article on integers, "The whole numbers were
synonymous with the integers up until the early 1950s In the late 1950s,
as part of the New Math movement, American elementary school teachers
began teaching that whole numbers referred to the natural numbers,
excluding negative numbers, while integer included the negative numbers.
The whole numbers remain ambiguous to the present day."

I was born just in time to be taught the New Math in school.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391656 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2025-03-26 10:00 +0100
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vs0fnp$1avlb$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391646
On 26/03/2025 00:55, James Kuyper wrote:
> On 3/25/25 19:38, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
>> [...]
>>>                                          For me there's an additional
>>> practical fact to keep in mind; that what we call "Ganzzahl" (whole
>>> numbers) isn't corresponding to what "whole number" means in English,
>>
>> What "whole numbers" means in English doesn't necessarily correspond to
>> what "whole numbers" means in English.
> 
> According to the Wikipedia article on integers, "The whole numbers were
> synonymous with the integers up until the early 1950s In the late 1950s,
> as part of the New Math movement, American elementary school teachers
> began teaching that whole numbers referred to the natural numbers,
> excluding negative numbers, while integer included the negative numbers.
> The whole numbers remain ambiguous to the present day."
> 

That's an interesting historical point, thanks.

It's also important in such discussions to remember that the USA doesn't 
have a monopoly on the English language, or maths - they can't even 
spell "maths" correctly :-)

So "everyday English" usage will vary in time and space, as will the 
definitions people were taught in school (which most "normal" folk will 
have long forgotten anyway).


(It is entirely reasonable that the "everyday English" usage in the C 
standards be based on US American usage - even though #include <math.h> 
always makes me feel like I'm speaking with a lisp.)

> I was born just in time to be taught the New Math in school.

These days, of course, kids don't learn about any of this - they just 
learn how to ask ChatGPT about it from their iPad.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391675 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromMichael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-26 16:01 +0200
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<20250326160142.000051a6@yahoo.com>
In reply to#391656
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 10:00:40 +0100
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

> On 26/03/2025 00:55, James Kuyper wrote:
> > On 3/25/25 19:38, Keith Thompson wrote:  
> >> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
> >> [...]  
> >>>                                          For me there's an
> >>> additional practical fact to keep in mind; that what we call
> >>> "Ganzzahl" (whole numbers) isn't corresponding to what "whole
> >>> number" means in English,  
> >>
> >> What "whole numbers" means in English doesn't necessarily
> >> correspond to what "whole numbers" means in English.  
> > 
> > According to the Wikipedia article on integers, "The whole numbers
> > were synonymous with the integers up until the early 1950s In the
> > late 1950s, as part of the New Math movement, American elementary
> > school teachers began teaching that whole numbers referred to the
> > natural numbers, excluding negative numbers, while integer included
> > the negative numbers. The whole numbers remain ambiguous to the
> > present day." 
> 
> That's an interesting historical point, thanks.
> 
> It's also important in such discussions to remember that the USA
> doesn't have a monopoly on the English language, or maths - they
> can't even spell "maths" correctly :-)
> 
> So "everyday English" usage will vary in time and space, as will the 
> definitions people were taught in school (which most "normal" folk
> will have long forgotten anyway).
> 

But your school in UK taught you the same meaning of 'whole numbers' as
James's school in US. So, it seems, US and UK had common 'New Math'
movement that supposedly didn't affect majority of non-English-speaking
countries.

> 
> (It is entirely reasonable that the "everyday English" usage in the C 
> standards be based on US American usage - even though #include
> <math.h> always makes me feel like I'm speaking with a lisp.)
> 
> > I was born just in time to be taught the New Math in school.  
> 
> These days, of course, kids don't learn about any of this - they just 
> learn how to ask ChatGPT about it from their iPad.
> 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391679 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-26 14:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vs13uu$1v9bj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391675
On 26/03/2025 14:01, Michael S wrote:
> But your school in UK taught you the same meaning of 'whole numbers' as
> James's school in US.

What makes you think so? Mine certainly didn't. This thread was 
the first time in my life I've ever encountered the rather 
peculiar notion that whole numbers exclude negatives. Now that I 
/have/ encountered that notion, I see no compelling reason to 
endorse it.

For me the important part about whole numbers is not their sign 
but the part that makes them whole --- the absence of a remainder 
after division by 1.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391682 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromMichael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-26 17:16 +0200
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<20250326171612.00000a8d@yahoo.com>
In reply to#391679
On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:45:50 +0000
Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

> On 26/03/2025 14:01, Michael S wrote:
> > But your school in UK taught you the same meaning of 'whole
> > numbers' as James's school in US.  
> 
> What makes you think so?

It seems, he said it himself in one of replies.

> Mine certainly didn't. 

But you are significantly older than David. Not sure about James.

> This thread was 
> the first time in my life I've ever encountered the rather 
> peculiar notion that whole numbers exclude negatives. Now that I 
> /have/ encountered that notion, I see no compelling reason to 
> endorse it.
> 
> For me the important part about whole numbers is not their sign 
> but the part that makes them whole --- the absence of a remainder 
> after division by 1.
> 

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391684 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-26 08:55 -0700
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<86v7rviy6p.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391682
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:45:50 +0000
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 26/03/2025 14:01, Michael S wrote:
>>
>>> But your school in UK taught you the same meaning of 'whole
>>> numbers' as James's school in US.
>>
>> What makes you think so?
>
> It seems, he said it himself in one of replies.
>
>> Mine certainly didn't.
>
> But you are significantly older than David.  Not sure about James.

Unfortunately the sub-conversation has turned into a debate
about what the phrase "whole numbers" does or should mean.
The important point is that different people understand it
differently, and consequently "whole numbers" is not a good
substitute for the word "integers".

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391688 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2025-03-26 17:45 +0100
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vs1avk$24nub$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391682
On 26/03/2025 16:16, Michael S wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:45:50 +0000
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 26/03/2025 14:01, Michael S wrote:
>>> But your school in UK taught you the same meaning of 'whole
>>> numbers' as James's school in US.
>>
>> What makes you think so?
> 
> It seems, he said it himself in one of replies.

Now I am doubting myself.  Still, I am pretty sure that I didn't say 
anything like that, because I don't remember being taught about a 
definition of the term "whole numbers" at school at all.  (I /do/ 
remember learning it from other sources while I was at school - I was 
the weird kid who read maths books in my spare time.)

> 
>> Mine certainly didn't.
> 
> But you are significantly older than David. Not sure about James.
> 

It would have been around 1984 when I first learned about terms such as 
"the set of integers" in a rigorous manner.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391692 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-26 17:22 +0000
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vs1d3v$275j7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391688
On 26/03/2025 16:45, David Brown wrote:
> On 26/03/2025 16:16, Michael S wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:45:50 +0000
>> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 26/03/2025 14:01, Michael S wrote:
>>>> But your school in UK taught you the same meaning of 'whole
>>>> numbers' as James's school in US.
>>>
>>> What makes you think so?
>>
>> It seems, he said it himself in one of replies.
> 
> Now I am doubting myself.  Still, I am pretty sure that I didn't 
> say anything like that, because I don't remember being taught 
> about a definition of the term "whole numbers" at school at all.  
> (I /do/ remember learning it from other sources while I was at 
> school - I was the weird kid who read maths books in my spare time.)
> 
>>> Mine certainly didn't.
>>
>> But you are significantly older than David. Not sure about James.
>>
> 
> It would have been around 1984 when I first learned about terms 
> such as "the set of integers" in a rigorous manner.

For me, it would have been about 1884, but then I'm a tad older 
than thee, sirrah.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#391691 — Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-26 17:19 +0000
SubjectRe: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?)
Message-ID<vs1cut$275j7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391682
On 26/03/2025 15:16, Michael S wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 14:45:50 +0000
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 26/03/2025 14:01, Michael S wrote:
>>> But your school in UK taught you the same meaning of 'whole
>>> numbers' as James's school in US.
>>
>> What makes you think so?
> 
> It seems, he said it himself in one of replies.

James said that David's school in the UK taught David the same 
meaning of 'whole numbers' as James's school in US? Interesting 
claim. Perhaps James would like to confirm or deny, but I wasn't 
even aware that James knew which schools David attended.

>> Mine certainly didn't.
> 
> But you are significantly older than David. Not sure about James.

David doesn't recall his school defining "whole numbers" for him. 
Do you have evidence to support your claim about David's schooling?

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


Page 5 of 22 — ← Prev page 1 … 3 4 [5] 6 7 … 22  Next page →

Back to top | Article view | comp.lang.c


csiph-web