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| Started by | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2024-02-09 00:39 +0000 |
| Last post | 2024-02-16 04:11 +0100 |
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How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 00:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 00:53 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 02:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-10 07:31 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 01:13 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 09:27 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 10:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-09 10:36 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 13:17 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-09 14:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 22:41 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 23:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 13:03 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 10:46 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 14:43 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 14:42 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:54 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 16:35 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:09 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 17:22 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:34 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:02 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 19:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 21:48 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:09 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:23 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:37 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 17:38 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:49 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:04 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 10:28 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 18:52 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 20:20 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 13:11 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 23:11 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 22:14 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? dave_thompson_2@comcast.net - 2024-02-26 04:22 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-27 12:40 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-27 13:21 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-29 21:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 02:37 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 03:06 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 15:02 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:46 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 20:16 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 20:17 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 16:53 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:49 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:55 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 13:06 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 16:58 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:49 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-11 00:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:50 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 00:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:45 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 00:17 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-11 01:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 01:18 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 17:34 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 01:42 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 18:00 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 05:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 21:37 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:12 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:34 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:26 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 11:38 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 14:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 13:57 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 16:04 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 08:20 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 08:13 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 17:43 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 03:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 20:12 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:23 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:44 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:38 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-15 15:55 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 08:27 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 10:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 16:55 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 18:05 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 18:00 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:40 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 20:27 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 09:07 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 09:35 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 11:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 12:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 14:15 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 12:32 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-13 13:56 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 15:10 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 15:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:30 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:35 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 18:58 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:27 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 19:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 21:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 21:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 22:50 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:55 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:22 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 12:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 22:56 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 15:30 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 02:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 09:35 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 09:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 11:11 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 10:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 13:32 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-15 08:23 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:51 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 17:27 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:37 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:46 +0000
Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 11:30 +0000
Re: Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-14 14:14 +0200
Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:46 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 14:17 +0000
Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 16:03 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 17:04 +0000
Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 17:58 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 19:35 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:07 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 21:01 +0000
Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:47 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 01:07 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 03:08 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 11:44 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 16:40 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 18:02 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 00:29 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:45 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:56 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 10:32 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:05 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:41 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:26 +0000
Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:10 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 15:36 +0000
Re: Building Code Again David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 22:16 +0100
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 21:29 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 00:19 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:42 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 05:53 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 09:54 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:48 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:51 +0000
Re: Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 13:40 +0100
Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:13 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:58 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:57 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 17:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 22:18 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 19:53 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:17 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:42 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:00 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-13 22:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 14:19 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:51 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:21 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:37 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:20 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 13:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-17 20:45 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 20:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:16 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:39 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:40 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 16:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 18:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-18 22:34 +0000
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Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:16 +0100
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Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 22:36 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 16:28 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 18:09 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 08:04 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 17:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-02-19 19:21 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 00:05 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:37 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 03:32 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 17:06 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 12:37 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 19:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-21 00:34 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 06:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:19 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 18:19 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 17:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 09:46 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 19:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 18:14 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 11:01 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 20:09 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:03 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-21 00:33 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 00:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-21 01:57 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 06:21 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-21 09:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 09:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 11:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 13:03 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-21 01:35 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 02:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 11:02 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 13:37 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:32 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 17:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-21 09:27 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-21 11:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:43 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:43 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:11 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:13 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-02-21 01:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 02:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:00 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 23:41 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:42 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 02:14 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:17 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:29 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:33 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 16:18 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 17:55 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 17:22 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 07:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-18 09:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-18 11:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 12:00 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.harnden@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-18 12:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:19 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:59 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:48 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 16:41 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 08:54 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 15:23 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 17:13 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:04 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 13:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 16:01 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 15:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-17 22:08 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-17 20:13 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-17 22:33 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:52 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-17 17:35 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 23:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:59 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:23 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:53 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:38 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 02:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:19 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-19 15:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 10:02 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 04:34 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:18 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-19 00:39 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:35 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 03:18 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 10:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 23:22 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 12:20 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 21:24 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-16 21:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 16:52 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-17 01:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.harnden@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-17 10:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-18 04:32 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 14:02 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-17 05:07 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:09 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 13:07 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-17 16:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 18:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-17 19:37 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 16:01 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:59 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:21 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 16:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 17:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-16 08:33 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-16 17:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-17 15:56 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:18 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 02:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 08:59 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:11 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 16:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:50 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 10:01 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:44 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:42 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 11:09 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 12:09 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:54 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 17:42 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 17:56 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:01 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-18 21:07 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:01 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 10:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 10:52 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 22:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:18 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:52 +0000
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Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 09:00 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:23 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-15 06:14 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:55 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 18:11 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:55 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 01:11 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-14 02:19 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-14 03:02 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 20:10 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:13 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:44 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 09:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:26 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-14 14:36 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 15:29 +0100
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Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:41 +0000
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Re: [OT] Pascal and popularity (was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-02-16 18:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:03 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 09:49 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-16 15:35 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-17 18:54 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:52 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 13:15 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:49 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 14:51 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 15:33 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:09 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:57 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:14 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:34 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 01:21 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:59 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-14 12:02 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 08:03 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-14 20:31 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:53 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:47 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:42 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:40 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:04 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:11 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 22:31 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-17 16:10 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 16:45 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:35 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 18:07 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 06:45 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-18 12:37 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 06:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 06:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:38 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 10:57 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:28 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 11:02 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 11:01 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:31 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 17:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:09 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:13 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 07:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 17:48 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 08:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 18:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:31 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 09:26 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 17:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 19:17 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:07 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:50 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 15:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:52 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 18:23 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 17:06 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:41 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:31 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 18:40 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:20 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:38 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:14 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 15:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 16:57 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:29 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:22 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-13 17:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 17:33 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:49 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 18:01 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 20:19 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 19:02 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:25 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 21:54 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 22:17 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-15 06:07 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-09 19:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:31 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-10 08:05 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 17:06 +0100
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Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:13 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:09 -0800
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 17:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq5n06$2nkds$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382208 |
On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote: > > (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who > commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "=" > and "==" occasionally.) > I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and = for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing "=" for "==". -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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| From | Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 09:34 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <87jzndee2l.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> |
| In reply to | #382210 |
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:
> On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who
>> commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "="
>> and "==" occasionally.)
>
> I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and
> = for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing
> "=" for "==".
Are you sure you're not thinking of Pascal?
Fortan doesn't use := as far as I can tell. It uses = for assignment
and .EQ. (or ==) for equality. (I think the == form is relatively new;
it's there in Fortran 90.)
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
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| From | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 18:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq5pbq$2nvst$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382210 |
On 09/02/2024 17:22, Malcolm McLean wrote:
> On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>
>> (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who
>> commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "="
>> and "==" occasionally.)
>>
>
> I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and =
> for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing "="
> for "==".
Fortran must have changed considerably since I last used it.
It was "=" to assign, and ".EQ." for equality.
I assume you mean another language. My normal one does use := and = like
that, and switching to/from C gives problems: you write = in C instead
of ==, and in mine I'd write = instead of :=. However:
a = b
was a no-op in my language (or rather, it compared then discarded the
result), leading to puzzling bugs. Now I usually detect such statements.
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| From | fir <fir@grunge.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 19:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uq5rtn$24oum$1@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #382214 |
bart wrote: > On 09/02/2024 17:22, Malcolm McLean wrote: >> On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote: >>> >>> (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who >>> commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "=" >>> and "==" occasionally.) >>> >> >> I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and >> = for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing >> "=" for "==". > > Fortran must have changed considerably since I last used it. > > It was "=" to assign, and ".EQ." for equality. > > I assume you mean another language. My normal one does use := and = like > that, and switching to/from C gives problems: you write = in C instead > of ==, and in mine I'd write = instead of :=. However: > > a = b > > was a no-op in my language (or rather, it compared then discarded the > result), leading to puzzling bugs. Now I usually detect such statements. as some maybe know im from time to time write my compiler on c based langage and also i hardly think how to simplify and expand syntax and construction as to this problem how ewentually replace = and == at present time i just found this problem unresolvable :c what i think = coud eventually stay though it also could have alternative.. == is in turn clearly wrong but one would need unicode sign for this i guess.. there is need for some sign like = with a small "?" above it ≟ possibly a≟b
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| From | fir <fir@grunge.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 21:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uq633t$25349$1@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #382221 |
fir wrote: > bart wrote: >> On 09/02/2024 17:22, Malcolm McLean wrote: >>> On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>> (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who >>>> commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "=" >>>> and "==" occasionally.) >>>> >>> >>> I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and >>> = for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing >>> "=" for "==". >> >> Fortran must have changed considerably since I last used it. >> >> It was "=" to assign, and ".EQ." for equality. >> >> I assume you mean another language. My normal one does use := and = like >> that, and switching to/from C gives problems: you write = in C instead >> of ==, and in mine I'd write = instead of :=. However: >> >> a = b >> >> was a no-op in my language (or rather, it compared then discarded the >> result), leading to puzzling bugs. Now I usually detect such statements. > > as some maybe know im from time to time write my compiler on c based > langage and also i hardly think how to simplify and expand syntax and > construction > > as to this problem how ewentually replace = and == at present time i > just found this problem unresolvable :c > > > what i think = coud eventually stay though it also could have > alternative.. == is in turn clearly wrong but one would need unicode > sign for this i guess.. there is need for some sign like = with a small > "?" above it > > ≟ possibly > > a≟b > in fact i could conclude: a=b assigment should be something that resembles "=" but in the direction of <- or something like that a==b comparsion should be something that resembles "=" but in the direction of something like comparsion sign bioth obviously should be one sign..in asci there is no way to resolve that i guess i guess even = could be for comparsion but yopu would need another = more in direction like <- (but not quite) for assigments in asci that cont be done properly (i think) in asci you only can have some aproximation of this, and i probably would hold a=b for assigment and use a?=b for comparison (but only as approximation and use unicode for full 'version')
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| From | fir <fir@grunge.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-02-11 12:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqa9ss$2aerh$1@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #382214 |
bart wrote: > On 09/02/2024 17:22, Malcolm McLean wrote: >> On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote: >>> >>> (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who >>> commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "=" >>> and "==" occasionally.) >>> >> >> I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and >> = for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing >> "=" for "==". > > Fortran must have changed considerably since I last used it. > > It was "=" to assign, and ".EQ." for equality. > > I assume you mean another language. My normal one does use := and = like > that, and switching to/from C gives problems: you write = in C instead > of ==, and in mine I'd write = instead of :=. However: > > a = b > > was a no-op in my language (or rather, it compared then discarded the > result), leading to puzzling bugs. Now I usually detect such statements. it seem clear by me that if someone want upbild c-liek language (and many people want including me) unicode is needed... as i previously said yopu need one sign for == and one sign for = (or :=) this conclusion comes from my study of what is needed and what could be replaced...this basic set of operators/signs in ansi is to natrrow and yet those wighs come from outside computer world imo such operation as assigment is kinda computer specific and = dont wuite fits watching the unicode signs and tryin slightly (initially, spending few minutes on it as for now) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters i didnt find what would fit and what fits best temporarely i put empty square as example x▭100, y▭200, z▭x+y definitelly assuming that i need to drop ansi and find in unicode is some kind of decision (step up)
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| From | fir <fir@grunge.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-02-11 12:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqaao4$2afv0$1@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #382316 |
fir wrote: > bart wrote: >> On 09/02/2024 17:22, Malcolm McLean wrote: >>> On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>> (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who >>>> commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "=" >>>> and "==" occasionally.) >>>> >>> >>> I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and >>> = for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing >>> "=" for "==". >> >> Fortran must have changed considerably since I last used it. >> >> It was "=" to assign, and ".EQ." for equality. >> >> I assume you mean another language. My normal one does use := and = like >> that, and switching to/from C gives problems: you write = in C instead >> of ==, and in mine I'd write = instead of :=. However: >> >> a = b >> >> was a no-op in my language (or rather, it compared then discarded the >> result), leading to puzzling bugs. Now I usually detect such statements. > > it seem clear by me that if someone want upbild c-liek language > (and many people want including me) unicode is needed... > as i previously said yopu need one sign for == and one sign for = (or :=) > > this conclusion comes from my study of what is needed and what > could be replaced...this basic set of operators/signs in ansi is to > natrrow and yet those wighs come from outside computer world > > imo such operation as assigment is kinda computer specific and = dont > wuite fits > > watching the unicode signs and tryin slightly (initially, spending few > minutes on it as for now) > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters > > i didnt find what would fit and what fits best > > temporarely i put empty square as example > > x▭100, y▭200, z▭x+y > > definitelly assuming that i need to drop ansi and find in unicode is > some kind of decision (step up) > > > > > in fact i also think that more then one sign for asigments is needed for example this x = foo(y) is something other than this x = y and it is specially seen when using things liek x y = foo(a,b,c) becouse if i want to drep thsi gothic decorators as i name them you got x y foo a b c and you could want to denote optionally what is variables ina and what is variables out and if so the = would look like x= y= foo <-a <-b <-c thus output of the function probably should be noted by differnt sign then assigment as it would increase readibility x' y' foo "a "b "c i dont knov hovever what signs it should be and there should be find a way what can be optional
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| From | fir <fir@grunge.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-02-11 12:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqabid$2agt3$1@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #382317 |
fir wrote: > fir wrote: >> bart wrote: >>> On 09/02/2024 17:22, Malcolm McLean wrote: >>>> On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who >>>>> commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "=" >>>>> and "==" occasionally.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and >>>> = for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing >>>> "=" for "==". >>> >>> Fortran must have changed considerably since I last used it. >>> >>> It was "=" to assign, and ".EQ." for equality. >>> >>> I assume you mean another language. My normal one does use := and = like >>> that, and switching to/from C gives problems: you write = in C instead >>> of ==, and in mine I'd write = instead of :=. However: >>> >>> a = b >>> >>> was a no-op in my language (or rather, it compared then discarded the >>> result), leading to puzzling bugs. Now I usually detect such statements. >> >> it seem clear by me that if someone want upbild c-liek language >> (and many people want including me) unicode is needed... >> as i previously said yopu need one sign for == and one sign for = (or :=) >> >> this conclusion comes from my study of what is needed and what >> could be replaced...this basic set of operators/signs in ansi is to >> natrrow and yet those wighs come from outside computer world >> >> imo such operation as assigment is kinda computer specific and = dont >> wuite fits >> >> watching the unicode signs and tryin slightly (initially, spending few >> minutes on it as for now) >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters >> >> i didnt find what would fit and what fits best >> >> temporarely i put empty square as example >> >> x▭100, y▭200, z▭x+y >> >> definitelly assuming that i need to drop ansi and find in unicode is >> some kind of decision (step up) >> >> >> >> >> > in fact i also think that more then one sign for asigments is needed > > for example this x = foo(y) is something other than this x = y > and it is specially seen when using things liek > > x y = foo(a,b,c) > becouse if i want to drep thsi gothic decorators as i name them you got > > x y foo a b c > > and you could want to denote optionally what is variables ina and > what is variables out and if so the = would look like > > x= y= foo <-a <-b <-c thus output of the function probably should be > noted by differnt sign then assigment as it would increase readibility > > x' y' foo "a "b "c > > i dont knov hovever what signs it should be and there should be find a > way what can be optional > > the decision just to open up unicode can simplify things for exampel i was wondering back than herdly if a b c = d e f should be a 3 element 'vector' or 5 element vector..decision to take unicode just allow to take one = for 1-element scalar assigment and soem other sign resembling = for n-element vector assigment ..without it there is some more hard way i probably will even not explore (and i probably resolved the trouble of what to do with comma "'" a b, c d e, f comam should be separator something liek ";" today those "tuples" separated by space should be vectors, or particles/particules as i neme them im presently not sure if some suitable 2-element particules not reserve for assigments liek x 1, y 2 means x=1, y=2 but x 1 2 or foo x 1 are 3-element vectors, but im not sure if this will not break something as it "przeslania" (forget an englis word, covers?) the 2-element vector syntax i maybe would need hovever this pure vectors laying in white emptiness of context of much nothing maybe are worth to cover by something more usable as some could say this context is wasted
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| From | fir <fir@grunge.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-02-11 12:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqac2h$2ahia$1@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #382317 |
fir wrote: > fir wrote: >> bart wrote: >>> On 09/02/2024 17:22, Malcolm McLean wrote: >>>> On 09/02/2024 17:09, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who >>>>> commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "=" >>>>> and "==" occasionally.) >>>>> >>>> >>>> I had do to my PhD in Fortran, for my sins. It's := for assignment and >>>> = for comparison, and when I switched back to C, I was always writing >>>> "=" for "==". >>> >>> Fortran must have changed considerably since I last used it. >>> >>> It was "=" to assign, and ".EQ." for equality. >>> >>> I assume you mean another language. My normal one does use := and = like >>> that, and switching to/from C gives problems: you write = in C instead >>> of ==, and in mine I'd write = instead of :=. However: >>> >>> a = b >>> >>> was a no-op in my language (or rather, it compared then discarded the >>> result), leading to puzzling bugs. Now I usually detect such statements. >> >> it seem clear by me that if someone want upbild c-liek language >> (and many people want including me) unicode is needed... >> as i previously said yopu need one sign for == and one sign for = (or :=) >> >> this conclusion comes from my study of what is needed and what >> could be replaced...this basic set of operators/signs in ansi is to >> natrrow and yet those wighs come from outside computer world >> >> imo such operation as assigment is kinda computer specific and = dont >> wuite fits >> >> watching the unicode signs and tryin slightly (initially, spending few >> minutes on it as for now) >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unicode_characters >> >> i didnt find what would fit and what fits best >> >> temporarely i put empty square as example >> >> x▭100, y▭200, z▭x+y >> >> definitelly assuming that i need to drop ansi and find in unicode is >> some kind of decision (step up) >> >> >> >> >> > in fact i also think that more then one sign for asigments is needed > > for example this x = foo(y) is something other than this x = y > and it is specially seen when using things liek > > x y = foo(a,b,c) > becouse if i want to drep thsi gothic decorators as i name them you got > > x y foo a b c > > and you could want to denote optionally what is variables ina and > what is variables out and if so the = would look like > > x= y= foo <-a <-b <-c thus output of the function probably should be > noted by differnt sign then assigment as it would increase readibility > > x' y' foo "a "b "c > > i dont knov hovever what signs it should be and there should be find a > way what can be optional > > x y foo a b c optional is not bed also clever editir sein such particles could set output variables as one color input as another and bold teh function call name
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| From | Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 17:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20240209093537.386@kylheku.com> |
| In reply to | #382208 |
On 2024-02-09, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote: > I suggest that the bug of using "=" where "==" was intended occurs > almost exclusively among inexperienced C programmers, particularly those > who are inexperienced with programming in general. Almost exclusively. I've had this sneak upon me maybe once or twice in the past 15 years. GCC warns well in most situations in which the typo is made, so it doesn't easily sneak through. This is in the bug category of "used to be menacing before we had better diagnostics", along with forgetting to include <stdlib.h> before using malloc. -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca
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| From | Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 09:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <87fry1edeo.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> |
| In reply to | #382212 |
Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> writes:
> On 2024-02-09, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I suggest that the bug of using "=" where "==" was intended occurs
>> almost exclusively among inexperienced C programmers, particularly those
>> who are inexperienced with programming in general.
>
> Almost exclusively. I've had this sneak upon me maybe once or twice in
> the past 15 years. GCC warns well in most situations in which the typo
> is made, so it doesn't easily sneak through.
>
> This is in the bug category of "used to be menacing before we had better
> diagnostics", along with forgetting to include <stdlib.h> before using
> malloc.
One issue with C is that its syntax is what I think of as "dense".
In more verbose languages (Ada is an example), a typo is very likely to
result in an easily diagnosable syntax error. In C, many typos result
in syntactically valid code that means something different. Examples
are = vs ==, > vs >>, etc. Compilers can detect and warn about some
things that are likely to be typos, like `if (a = b)`, but certain kinds
of errors are still easier to make in C than in some other languages.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
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| From | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 18:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq5pfp$2nvst$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382212 |
On 09/02/2024 17:38, Kaz Kylheku wrote: > On 2024-02-09, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote: >> I suggest that the bug of using "=" where "==" was intended occurs >> almost exclusively among inexperienced C programmers, particularly those >> who are inexperienced with programming in general. > > Almost exclusively. I've had this sneak upon me maybe once or twice in > the past 15 years. GCC warns well in most situations in which the typo > is made, so it doesn't easily sneak through. > > This is in the bug category of "used to be menacing before we had better > diagnostics", along with forgetting to include <stdlib.h> before using > malloc. > How does gcc know whether 'if (a = b)' is meant to be an assignment or comparison? Simply warning on the possibility is not going to be helpful, because you will be swamped with output that may hide more important matters.
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| From | Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 10:28 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <87bk8peblx.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> |
| In reply to | #382215 |
bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> On 09/02/2024 17:38, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> On 2024-02-09, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I suggest that the bug of using "=" where "==" was intended occurs
>>> almost exclusively among inexperienced C programmers, particularly those
>>> who are inexperienced with programming in general.
>> Almost exclusively. I've had this sneak upon me maybe once or twice
>> in the past 15 years. GCC warns well in most situations in which the
>> typo is made, so it doesn't easily sneak through. This is in the bug
>> category of "used to be menacing before we had better diagnostics",
>> along with forgetting to include <stdlib.h> before using malloc.
>
> How does gcc know whether 'if (a = b)' is meant to be an assignment or
> comparison?
>
It doesn't know. If you enable the warning (-Wparentheses, enabled by
-Wall), it assumes that an assignment at the top level of a condition
was probably meant to be a comparison, and warns about it. The warning
suggests adding parentheses, so `if ((a = b))` avoids the warning.
> Simply warning on the possibility is not going to be helpful, because
> you will be swamped with output that may hide more important matters.
Assignments in conditions are rare enough that you're not likely to be
swamped.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
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| From | Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 18:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20240209104304.365@kylheku.com> |
| In reply to | #382215 |
On 2024-02-09, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote: > On 09/02/2024 17:38, Kaz Kylheku wrote: >> On 2024-02-09, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I suggest that the bug of using "=" where "==" was intended occurs >>> almost exclusively among inexperienced C programmers, particularly those >>> who are inexperienced with programming in general. >> >> Almost exclusively. I've had this sneak upon me maybe once or twice in >> the past 15 years. GCC warns well in most situations in which the typo >> is made, so it doesn't easily sneak through. >> >> This is in the bug category of "used to be menacing before we had better >> diagnostics", along with forgetting to include <stdlib.h> before using >> malloc. >> > > How does gcc know whether 'if (a = b)' is meant to be an assignment or > comparison? The point is that this is not knowable; it is ambiguous. (Perhaps the current maintainer of the code doesn't even know). That's why it deserves a diagnostic. Someone will have to look at it and figure out whether it should be the assignment or comparison. > Simply warning on the possibility is not going to be helpful, because > you will be swamped with output that may hide more important matters. So you might suspect, but that turns out to be wrong. GCC assumes that this is a mistake and warns about it, suggesting that parentheses be put around the assignment if it is intended. warning: suggest parentheses around assignment used as truth value [-Wparentheses] This -Wparentheses is included in -Wall. Thus: if (a = b) // warns if ((a = b)) // shuts up this heuristic turns out to be good. The diagnostic rarely occurs in the first place, and the fix is trivial. Parentheses normally disambiguate associativity/precedence. So by a kind of metaphor, here they are used to fix a psychological rather than grammatical ambiguity. -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 20:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uq5tua$2ooie$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382208 |
On 09/02/2024 18:09, Keith Thompson wrote: > David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: >> On 09/02/2024 01:39, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> If you want to make C a safer language, one obvious thing is to disallow >>> using “=” in the middle of an expression. Instead of returning the value >>> of the expression, have it return void. Or just disallow it syntactically >>> altogether. >> >> I think that C would have been a safer language if assignment had been >> a statement, not an expression (such as is the case in Pascal, for >> example). But I don't think it is remotely feasible to change this in >> C - you are fifty years too late. >> >> The nearest you can come to changes like this in C would be optional >> warnings or checks in compilers and static analysers. > > I suggest that the bug of using "=" where "==" was intended occurs > almost exclusively among inexperienced C programmers, particularly those > who are inexperienced with programming in general. It can also happen accidentally - even experienced programmers can make typos which they don't spot immediately. But experienced programmers will normally be using tools that will find such mistakes very quickly. > > It's a mistake that's made because the programmer assumes that "=" > is a comparison operator, as it is in mathematics and in some other > programming languages. It's an easy and understandable mistake > to make, but any reasonably experienced C programmer will have > internalized the fact that "=" means assignment, not comparison. > To a newbie, `if (x = y)` *looks like* a comparison. To an > experienced C programmer it doesn't. > > (It's possible I'm overgeneralizing. For example, a programmer who > commonly switches between C and other languages might still mix up "=" > and "==" occasionally.) > > If C had used ":=" for assignment and "=" for comparison (and "==" > probably not used for anything), the problem would never have come up, > because ":=" doesn't look like a comparison even to a newbie. But it's > far too late to fix that in any language called "C". > Yes.
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| From | Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 13:11 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <8734u1e424.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> |
| In reply to | #382208 |
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
> If C had used ":=" for assignment and "=" for comparison (and "=="
> probably not used for anything), the problem would never have come up,
> because ":=" doesn't look like a comparison even to a newbie. But it's
> far too late to fix that in any language called "C".
If I were designing a new language, I'd consider using ":=" for
assignment, "==" for equality, and not using "=" for anything.
In (nearly?) all languages I'm aware of, ":=" either doesn't exist or
means assignment, and "==" either doesn't exist or means equality. I'd
avoid "=" because it's ambiguous across languages (and that's almost
entirely C's fault, inherited from B).
Historically, C's predecessor B used "=" for assignment and "==" for
equality, while B's predecessor BCPL used ":=" for assignment and "="
for equality.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
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| From | fir <fir@grunge.pl> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 23:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uq67u9$259v5$1@i2pn2.org> |
| In reply to | #382232 |
Keith Thompson wrote: > Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes: > [...] >> If C had used ":=" for assignment and "=" for comparison (and "==" >> probably not used for anything), the problem would never have come up, >> because ":=" doesn't look like a comparison even to a newbie. But it's >> far too late to fix that in any language called "C". > > If I were designing a new language, I'd consider using ":=" for > assignment, "==" for equality, and not using "=" for anything. > > In (nearly?) all languages I'm aware of, ":=" either doesn't exist or > means assignment, and "==" either doesn't exist or means equality. I'd > avoid "=" because it's ambiguous across languages (and that's almost > entirely C's fault, inherited from B). > > Historically, C's predecessor B used "=" for assignment and "==" for > equality, while B's predecessor BCPL used ":=" for assignment and "=" > for equality. > it io not in the spirit of c (and c design intentions) SO people like you or the guy who want to consider to remove assigments in expressions dont understand c (i understand it at least better, question is if fully)
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| From | Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-09 22:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20240209141128.782@kylheku.com> |
| In reply to | #382232 |
On 2024-02-09, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote: > Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes: > [...] >> If C had used ":=" for assignment and "=" for comparison (and "==" >> probably not used for anything), the problem would never have come up, >> because ":=" doesn't look like a comparison even to a newbie. But it's >> far too late to fix that in any language called "C". > > If I were designing a new language, I'd consider using ":=" for > assignment, "==" for equality, and not using "=" for anything. > > In (nearly?) all languages I'm aware of, ":=" either doesn't exist or > means assignment, and "==" either doesn't exist or means equality. I'd > avoid "=" because it's ambiguous across languages (and that's almost > entirely C's fault, inherited from B). Some of the credit must go to classic BASIC! I seem to remember than in classic, line-numbered BASICs on 8 bit micros, the = token was used both for assignment and comparison! 300 I = I + 1 310 IF I = 10 GOTO 340 If you have a dedicated assignment statement, you can pull this kind of stunt. Just like C can distinguish initialization from assignment. -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca
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| From | dave_thompson_2@comcast.net |
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| Date | 2024-02-26 04:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uvloti53cog8e3nr8ooomfk3ds122dvbfs@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #382238 |
On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 22:14:19 -0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> wrote: > On 2024-02-09, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote: > > If I were designing a new language, I'd consider using ":=" for > > assignment, "==" for equality, and not using "=" for anything. > > > > In (nearly?) all languages I'm aware of, ":=" either doesn't exist or > > means assignment, and "==" either doesn't exist or means equality. I'd > > avoid "=" because it's ambiguous across languages (and that's almost > > entirely C's fault, inherited from B). > > Some of the credit must go to classic BASIC! > > I seem to remember than in classic, line-numbered BASICs on 8 bit > micros, the = token was used both for assignment and comparison! > > 300 I = I + 1 > 310 IF I = 10 GOTO 340 > BASIC itself predates (B and) C, but 8 bit micros are at least 5 years too late. > If you have a dedicated assignment statement, you can pull this kind > of stunt. Just like C can distinguish initialization from assignment. And I'm pretty sure Dartmouth BASIC required LET var = expr, which (more) clearly distinguished it from IF. COBOL used = for both one type of assignment (requiring keyword COMPUTE) and equality. (The other types of assignment didn't use any punctuator at all.) PL/I used it for both, with assignment 'bare'.
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-27 12:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <urkho1$3681a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #383028 |
On 26.02.2024 10:22, dave_thompson_2@comcast.net wrote: > On Fri, 9 Feb 2024 22:14:19 -0000 (UTC), Kaz Kylheku > <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> wrote: >> On 2024-02-09, Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> If I were designing a new language, I'd consider using ":=" for >>> assignment, "==" for equality, and not using "=" for anything. >>> >>> In (nearly?) all languages I'm aware of, ":=" either doesn't exist or >>> means assignment, and "==" either doesn't exist or means equality. In Simula you have '=' (equality) and '==' (identity; for references), and of course ':=' (value assignments) and ':-' (reference assignments). >>> I'd >>> avoid "=" because it's ambiguous across languages (and that's almost >>> entirely C's fault, inherited from B). >> >> Some of the credit must go to classic BASIC! Don't forget FORTRAN (appearing before BASIC). And here also the syntax ambiguity it had with loops and assignments (but I forgot the details). >> >> I seem to remember than in classic, line-numbered BASICs on 8 bit >> micros, the = token was used both for assignment and comparison! >> >> 300 I = I + 1 >> 310 IF I = 10 GOTO 340 >> > BASIC itself predates (B and) C, but 8 bit micros are at least 5 years > too late. > >> If you have a dedicated assignment statement, you can pull this kind >> of stunt. Just like C can distinguish initialization from assignment. > > And I'm pretty sure Dartmouth BASIC required LET var = expr, which > (more) clearly distinguished it from IF. Not all BASIC dialects "required" 'LET'. (A BASIC pocket calculator from the 1970's that I still have allows omitting the keyword. But wasn't that quite typical for the BASIC home PCs that came later?) Janis > [...]
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