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| Started by | bart <bc@freeuk.com> |
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| First post | 2024-01-29 16:03 +0000 |
| Last post | 2024-02-12 02:18 +0000 |
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Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-29 16:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-30 00:57 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-29 17:38 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-30 09:06 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 15:23 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 08:36 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 19:12 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 00:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 01:45 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 04:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 11:52 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 16:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 17:57 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-01-30 19:22 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-01-31 16:41 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-01-31 19:01 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 20:25 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 09:39 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 11:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 16:11 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 17:33 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 18:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-01 22:23 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 20:55 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 13:10 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 22:38 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 00:55 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 02:08 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 09:02 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 15:28 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 15:49 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 16:53 +0200
Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-02 16:29 +0000
Re: Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 17:29 +0000
Re: Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:44 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 13:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 15:57 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 15:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 17:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 18:26 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 05:45 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-03 21:24 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:19 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 22:12 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 12:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:25 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 19:52 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 19:58 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 05:52 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-03 14:52 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 14:59 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:51 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 11:08 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 16:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:29 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:31 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 22:11 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 16:24 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 01:19 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:51 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-04 14:07 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:01 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 04:56 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 21:36 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 21:41 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:44 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 15:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:27 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:52 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2024-02-05 17:57 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 09:17 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 19:11 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:29 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:51 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-03 21:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 21:39 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:23 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 14:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 18:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 20:12 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-02-04 16:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:08 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-04 18:22 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:53 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 14:01 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:36 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 22:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 23:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 15:32 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-02-05 17:37 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 18:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 18:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:25 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 21:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:40 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 22:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:39 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 22:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-06 00:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 19:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 00:07 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 16:10 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 10:41 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 18:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-06 23:41 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 09:56 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 11:10 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-02-07 11:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 11:05 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-07 23:46 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 15:09 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-07 14:21 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 10:11 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 21:53 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 14:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 16:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 17:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System [Ben] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 22:50 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 09:40 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 11:55 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 12:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 16:35 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 16:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 21:24 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 16:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-02-08 17:04 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-08 17:10 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 17:25 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 23:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-08 17:38 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 21:30 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 00:58 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 01:14 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-09 01:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 01:27 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 01:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 10:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 13:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 02:07 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 15:49 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 17:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:24 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 10:34 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 18:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 20:41 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 21:56 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 23:12 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 23:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 00:28 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 15:41 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 23:53 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 00:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 16:33 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 02:26 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 02:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 20:17 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 20:09 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 19:51 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-09 18:25 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 20:55 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:06 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 13:15 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 22:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-10 15:24 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:04 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 09:21 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 17:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 23:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-07 19:24 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 10:12 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 08:40 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 12:24 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 01:45 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:17 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:41 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:46 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-05 06:48 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 11:20 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:33 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-05 21:57 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 23:20 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:41 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-06 01:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-06 00:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-05 06:00 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 22:46 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:57 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-05 13:02 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 22:51 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 23:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 00:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 14:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 14:40 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 16:59 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 19:20 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-06 20:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 20:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-06 20:49 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-06 13:07 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 21:39 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-07 15:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:36 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 20:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 21:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 23:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 23:58 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 01:33 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 01:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-08 01:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 02:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 22:48 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 23:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 21:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 21:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-08 17:23 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 00:51 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-07 02:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 04:21 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-07 07:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 12:59 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-07 23:53 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-07 15:45 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-08 12:56 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-08 17:22 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 00:07 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 10:08 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 11:44 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 22:34 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 22:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:28 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 01:03 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 17:42 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 02:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 19:03 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 10:54 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 16:09 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 02:36 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 00:53 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:51 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-02-03 17:56 -0500
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-04 07:52 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-04 06:18 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-02 03:22 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 11:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-03 00:25 +1100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 13:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 10:47 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 15:45 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 16:26 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:39 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-03 16:26 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:11 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-06 13:59 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 13:14 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-06 14:32 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-06 14:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 17:02 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-06 20:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 14:14 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 16:43 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 15:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-02 20:43 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 20:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 16:31 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 17:00 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 17:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 10:36 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 19:52 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 20:21 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 21:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 13:15 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:13 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:23 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 21:51 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:31 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 12:16 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 17:59 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 19:35 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-03 21:57 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:48 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 20:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-04 20:55 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-07 02:57 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 03:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:27 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 15:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 16:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-08 00:39 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 21:59 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 09:42 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-07 10:40 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 15:37 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 22:51 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 23:11 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-05 13:42 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:59 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 15:45 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 11:25 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 22:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 14:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 22:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:53 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:02 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 10:48 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 17:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 11:36 -0600
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:04 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 18:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 06:04 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 22:13 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 06:43 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 00:02 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 08:47 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 06:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 11:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:02 -0800
[meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:04 +0100
Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 07:19 -0800
Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:29 +0100
Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:37 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 16:26 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:30 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 11:05 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:18 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 15:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 00:26 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 00:35 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 11:13 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 10:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 14:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-02 01:46 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-01 16:20 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-01 16:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 17:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 19:25 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 19:51 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 12:12 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 12:43 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-01 22:36 +0200
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 23:09 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:32 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 21:17 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 09:48 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 11:49 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 21:39 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:24 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:38 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-01 23:53 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 23:14 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-30 09:17 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 12:09 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 15:25 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 17:50 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 03:14 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 20:38 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:46 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:06 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 14:48 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:23 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-30 16:46 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 03:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-31 03:23 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 08:47 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 11:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 15:31 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-31 15:13 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 23:00 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 00:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 03:07 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 15:00 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:40 +0000
system(3) (was: Re: Experimental C Build System) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-01 08:15 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 23:02 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 00:33 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:11 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 14:55 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 14:42 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 12:19 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 14:29 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 16:43 +0100
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 01:05 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 11:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 07:17 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:54 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 16:05 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:39 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 22:19 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:56 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:57 -0800
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 20:36 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System thiago <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 20:36 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-08 13:50 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System thiago <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 20:42 +0000
Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 02:18 +0000
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 21:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq0rt4$1jgqa$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382021 |
On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 20:48:56 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: > >>On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:02:07 -0000 (UTC), Lew Pitcher wrote: >> >>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not a GNUism, but part of the Unix heritage. >> >>This is why we say “*nix”, not “Unix”. We leave the “Unix” trademark to >>the lawyers and those with enough money to pay them. We just get on and >>do our work on “*nix” systems. > > That's why 'you' say it. Don't speak for others. I certainly wouldn’t speak for those who weren’t even alive when I first started using a *nix system.
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 23:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <zaUwN.62917$5Hnd.39205@fx03.iad> |
| In reply to | #382028 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 20:48:56 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >> >>>On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:02:07 -0000 (UTC), Lew Pitcher wrote: >>> >>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not a GNUism, but part of the Unix heritage. >>> >>>This is why we say “*nix”, not “Unix”. We leave the “Unix” trademark to >>>the lawyers and those with enough money to pay them. We just get on and >>>do our work on “*nix” systems. >> >> That's why 'you' say it. Don't speak for others. > >I certainly wouldn’t speak for those who weren’t even alive when I first >started using a *nix system. I doubt you'll find many of those here. I was using computers in 1974 and unix in 1979.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 23:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq15f5$1l0eh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382038 |
On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 23:15:43 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: > >>On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 20:48:56 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >>> >>>>This is why we say “*nix”, not “Unix”. We leave the “Unix” trademark >>>>to the lawyers and those with enough money to pay them. We just get on >>>>and do our work on “*nix” systems. >>> >>> That's why 'you' say it. Don't speak for others. >> >>I certainly wouldn’t speak for those who weren’t even alive when I first >>started using a *nix system. > > I doubt you'll find many of those here. I was using computers in 1974 > and unix in 1979. With such a long history of being so cavalier about the term, you must have been cautioned at some point about the legal implications of such trademark usage. It would have been mentioned in just about every AT&T publication.
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2024-02-08 01:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5cWwN.205640$yEgf.119199@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #382046 |
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 23:15:43 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >> >>>On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 20:48:56 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> >>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >>>> >>>>>This is why we say “*nix”, not “Unix”. We leave the “Unix” trademark >>>>>to the lawyers and those with enough money to pay them. We just get on >>>>>and do our work on “*nix” systems. >>>> >>>> That's why 'you' say it. Don't speak for others. >>> >>>I certainly wouldn’t speak for those who weren’t even alive when I first >>>started using a *nix system. >> >> I doubt you'll find many of those here. I was using computers in 1974 >> and unix in 1979. > >With such a long history of being so cavalier about the term, you must >have been cautioned at some point about the legal implications of such >trademark usage. It would have been mentioned in just about every AT&T >publication. I spent four years working with the USL engineers directly, and another six or so years working on the XPG working group. I'm quite aware of the legal ramifications of the use of the trademark. None of those ramifications matter in casual usage, such as here in this newsgroup.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-08 01:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq1b3o$1lp15$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382059 |
On Thu, 08 Feb 2024 01:33:53 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > None of those ramifications matter in casual usage, such as here in this > newsgroup. You won’t object if some of us feel otherwise.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2024-02-08 01:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq1c1t$1ljgm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382046 |
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 23:58:29 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <uq15f5$1l0eh$1@dont-email.me>: > On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 23:15:43 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >> >>>On Wed, 07 Feb 2024 20:48:56 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> >>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >>>> >>>>>This is why we say “*nix”, not “Unix”. We leave the “Unix” trademark >>>>>to the lawyers and those with enough money to pay them. We just get on >>>>>and do our work on “*nix” systems. >>>> >>>> That's why 'you' say it. Don't speak for others. >>> >>>I certainly wouldn’t speak for those who weren’t even alive when I first >>>started using a *nix system. >> >> I doubt you'll find many of those here. I was using computers in 1974 >> and unix in 1979. > > With such a long history of being so cavalier about the term, you must > have been cautioned at some point about the legal implications of such > trademark usage. It would have been mentioned in just about every AT&T > publication. As Janis hints at elsethread: at some point it was decided (adjudicated?) that "Unix" is a generic term, and UNIX(R) is the actual trademark. So Linux is a Unix but not UNIX(R)... (MacOS Darwin FreeBSD might be UNIX(R) -- is it certified, and do they pay the licensing fee?) [ I feel dirty posting this without any actual C topics in comp.lang.c, so I've set the followup to comp.unix.programmer... ] -- -v
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-08 02:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq1dj2$1m2vc$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382063 |
On Thu, 8 Feb 2024 01:50:54 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote: > As Janis hints at elsethread: at some point it was decided > (adjudicated?) that "Unix" > is a generic term, and UNIX(R) is the actual trademark. Too similar to get away with that excuse. > So Linux is a Unix but not UNIX(R)... I prefer “*nix”, or alternatively as a recognition that Linux is very much an ecosystem unto itself now, just define “Linux-compatible” as the new standard. > (MacOS Darwin FreeBSD might be UNIX(R) -- is it certified, and do they > pay the licensing fee?) No. Only Apple does. So the BSDs are no more “Unix” (or “UNIX®”) than Linux is.
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 22:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uq0ts4$1jr0t$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382014 |
On 07.02.2024 21:36, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:02:07 -0000 (UTC), Lew Pitcher wrote: > >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH is not a GNUism, but part of the Unix heritage. > > This is why we say “*nix”, not “Unix”. We leave the “Unix” trademark to > the lawyers and those with enough money to pay them. We just get on and do > our work on “*nix” systems. The trademark is UNIX. I've since long used "Unix" as a generic name, and meanwhile (for quite some time now) "Unix" also seems to have got used much more widely for that; I see it even described in common sources, like in various Wikipedias. (Some folks prefer using a '*' in a descriptive name. Feel free. Not worth a dispute, IMO.) Janis
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 23:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uq14km$1kr8u$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382034 |
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 22:48:52 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> I've since long used "Unix" as a generic name ...
Many do. For example, CMake, the build tool we have discussed elsewhere.
As a result of which you see CMake directives like this in some cross-
platform software:
if(UNIX AND NOT APPLE)
Anybody surprised that the one system still in common use that is entitled
to use the “Unix” trademark does not behave sufficiently like that generic
sense you were talking about?
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| From | Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-06 21:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20240206130425.319@kylheku.com> |
| In reply to | #381930 |
On 2024-02-06, Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 20:32:49 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> >>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. >> >> It’s a GNU thing, I think. > > It's a UNIX thing. GNU supports it, as it supports other > UNIX requirements. I can't find any mention of LD_LIBRARY_PATH in SuS. Not under dlopen or anywhere else. I'm looking at (pretty old) Solaris documentation. It has the $ORIGIN variable suppoted in both LD_LIBRARY_PATH and the internal path you can set in executables. I also found a 1998-08 commit from Ulrich Drepper adding the expansion support with ORIGIN. I think the documentation of it may have lagged behind, that's all, but we have had it "forever". -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2024-02-06 21:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <WJxwN.67770$IfLe.46396@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #381932 |
Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> writes: >On 2024-02-06, Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> wrote: >> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 20:32:49 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> >>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >>>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >>>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >>>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. >>> >>> It’s a GNU thing, I think. >> >> It's a UNIX thing. GNU supports it, as it supports other >> UNIX requirements. > >I can't find any mention of LD_LIBRARY_PATH in SuS. >Not under dlopen or anywhere else. > >I'm looking at (pretty old) Solaris documentation. It has the $ORIGIN >variable suppoted in both LD_LIBRARY_PATH and the internal path you can >set in executables. > >I also found a 1998-08 commit from Ulrich Drepper adding the expansion >support with ORIGIN. > >I think the documentation of it may have lagged behind, that's all, >but we have had it "forever". At least since circa 1989 when sunos added it. SVR4 was a merge between the follow-on to SVR3 and sunos (which became Solaris), thus SVR4 inheritied LD_LIBRARY_PATH from sunos along with the sun dynamic linking capability (SVR3 had static shared libraries - very painful to use as each library had to be linked at a fixed VA, unique amongst all other shared libraries). Given a 2GB user va space, choosing an address for a new library became very difficult. Whether linux got it from Solaris or SVR4 probably doesn't much matter.
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| From | Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-08 17:23 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <86y1bu5t2i.fsf@linuxsc.com> |
| In reply to | #381930 |
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 20:32:49 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> >>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. >> >> It?s a GNU thing, I think. > > It's a UNIX thing. GNU supports it, as it supports other > UNIX requirements. I would appreciate if folks posting stuff that pertains almost exclusively to comp.unix.programmer would take comp.lang.c off of those postings. Thank you.
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 00:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <upugl6$13mlp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381928 |
On 06.02.2024 21:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. > > It’s a GNU thing, I think. I think we've used it on AIX and HP-UX already. Janis
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| From | Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 02:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20240206180930.963@kylheku.com> |
| In reply to | #381937 |
On 2024-02-06, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 06.02.2024 21:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> >>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. >> >> It’s a GNU thing, I think. > > I think we've used it on AIX and HP-UX already. Some IBM documentation I was able to dig up on the web says that AIX 5.3 [2004] introduced LD_LIBRARY_PATH; before that it was LIBPATH in AIX 5.1, which continues to work. Nothing about the $SOURCE expansion. The GCC Compile Farm Project has an AIX machine. I'm logging in there now. Looks like the "load" and "dlopen" man pages reference LD_LIBRARY_PATH. None of them mention any interpolation of parameters being supported. It probably doesn't exist. -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 04:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uput07$19925$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381939 |
On 07.02.2024 03:18, Kaz Kylheku wrote: > On 2024-02-06, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On 06.02.2024 21:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> >>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >>>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >>>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >>>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. >>> >>> It’s a GNU thing, I think. >> >> I think we've used it on AIX and HP-UX already. > > Some IBM documentation I was able to dig up on the web says that AIX 5.3 > [2004] introduced LD_LIBRARY_PATH; before that it was LIBPATH in AIX > 5.1, which continues to work. Nothing about the $SOURCE expansion. My contact with AIX had been earlier, since the early 1990's, starting with 3.5/3.6 (IIRC) to 4.1/4.3. A quick search did not show up much but a later document (but earlier than your document) from 2001 explaining "The LIBPATH environment variable is a colon-separated list of directory paths, with the same syntax as the PATH environment variable and indicates the search path for libraries. It has the same function as the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable on SystemV." [ AIX Linking and Loading Mechanisms ] Janis > [...]
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| From | Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 07:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <upvaq9$1b1vb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381939 |
On 07/02/2024 02:18, Kaz Kylheku wrote: > On 2024-02-06, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On 06.02.2024 21:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> >>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >>>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >>>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >>>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. >>> >>> It’s a GNU thing, I think. >> >> I think we've used it on AIX and HP-UX already. > > Some IBM documentation I was able to dig up on the web says that AIX 5.3 > [2004] introduced LD_LIBRARY_PATH; before that it was LIBPATH in AIX > 5.1, which continues to work. Nothing about the $SOURCE expansion. > > The GCC Compile Farm Project has an AIX machine. I'm logging in there > now. Looks like the "load" and "dlopen" man pages reference > LD_LIBRARY_PATH. None of them mention any interpolation of parameters > being supported. It probably doesn't exist. > Wasn't it SHLIB_PATH on HP/UX?
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 12:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <upvrai$1dml5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #381947 |
On 07.02.2024 08:17, Richard Harnden wrote: > On 07/02/2024 02:18, Kaz Kylheku wrote: >> On 2024-02-06, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> On 06.02.2024 21:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> >>>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >>>>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >>>>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >>>>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. >>>> >>>> It’s a GNU thing, I think. >>> >>> I think we've used it on AIX and HP-UX already. >> >> Some IBM documentation I was able to dig up on the web says that AIX 5.3 >> [2004] introduced LD_LIBRARY_PATH; before that it was LIBPATH in AIX >> 5.1, which continues to work. Nothing about the $SOURCE expansion. >> >> The GCC Compile Farm Project has an AIX machine. I'm logging in there >> now. Looks like the "load" and "dlopen" man pages reference >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH. None of them mention any interpolation of parameters >> being supported. It probably doesn't exist. >> > > Wasn't it SHLIB_PATH on HP/UX? Maybe, I don't recall. My point was not so much the concrete name of the environment variable but the availability of the function connected with the respective variables. Janis
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| From | "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 23:53 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <33bc9k-1de.ln1@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au> |
| In reply to | #381947 |
On 07/02/2024 18:17, Richard Harnden wrote: > On 07/02/2024 02:18, Kaz Kylheku wrote: >> On 2024-02-06, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> On 06.02.2024 21:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>>> >>>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing >>>>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has >>>>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, >>>>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. >>>> >>>> It’s a GNU thing, I think. >>> >>> I think we've used it on AIX and HP-UX already. >> >> Some IBM documentation I was able to dig up on the web says that AIX 5.3 >> [2004] introduced LD_LIBRARY_PATH; before that it was LIBPATH in AIX >> 5.1, which continues to work. Nothing about the $SOURCE expansion. >> >> The GCC Compile Farm Project has an AIX machine. I'm logging in there >> now. Looks like the "load" and "dlopen" man pages reference >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH. None of them mention any interpolation of parameters >> being supported. It probably doesn't exist. >> > > Wasn't it SHLIB_PATH on HP/UX? > It still is. (Yes, some of us have to maintain these boxes because, although they were all amortised a decade or two ago, someone in a bank/taxation department/insurance company/&c knows that replacing them will be an expensive and time consuming process. So they'll be replaced - after they collapse into a pile of rust - in a mad panic with Linux boxes with something written in a mad rush in Python/PHP/Perl - by people who don't understand the requirements, briefed by people who don't understand the requirements - that sort of does the same job the old machines did, if you squint really, really hard. And /don't/ get audited by anyone competent. However, that one's *really* unlikely. :-) ) Cheers, Gary B-)
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-07 15:45 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20240207154509.00002510@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #381966 |
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 23:53:22 +1100 "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote: > On 07/02/2024 18:17, Richard Harnden wrote: > > On 07/02/2024 02:18, Kaz Kylheku wrote: > >> On 2024-02-06, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> On 06.02.2024 21:32, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2024 19:20:06 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH isn't a distro thing, its a shell thing > >>>>> interpreted by the dynamic linker. The dynamic linker has > >>>>> a set of default paths that it uses, set by the distro, > >>>>> which can be overridden in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by each user. > >>>> > >>>> It’s a GNU thing, I think. > >>> > >>> I think we've used it on AIX and HP-UX already. > >> > >> Some IBM documentation I was able to dig up on the web says that > >> AIX 5.3 [2004] introduced LD_LIBRARY_PATH; before that it was > >> LIBPATH in AIX 5.1, which continues to work. Nothing about the > >> $SOURCE expansion. > >> > >> The GCC Compile Farm Project has an AIX machine. I'm logging in > >> there now. Looks like the "load" and "dlopen" man pages reference > >> LD_LIBRARY_PATH. None of them mention any interpolation of > >> parameters being supported. It probably doesn't exist. > >> > > > > Wasn't it SHLIB_PATH on HP/UX? > > > It still is. (Yes, some of us have to maintain these boxes because, > although they were all amortised a decade or two ago, someone in a > bank/taxation department/insurance company/&c knows that replacing > them will be an expensive and time consuming process. So they'll be > replaced > - after they collapse into a pile of rust - in a mad panic with > Linux boxes with something written in a mad rush in Python/PHP/Perl - > by people who don't understand the requirements, briefed by people > who don't understand the requirements - that sort of does the same > job the old machines did, if you squint really, really hard. And > /don't/ get audited by anyone competent. However, that one's > *really* unlikely. :-) ) > > Cheers, > Gary B-) It does not have to be replaced with new solution even after original hardware died. https://www.stromasys.com/solution/charon-par/ For those that are currently on IPF variant of HP-UX, working hardware is still easily available. However when it wouldn't be, I'd expect that the same company will provide emulation solution. My theory is that they already have it done, but as long as "real" HW is available they are afraid to sell IPF emulators because of legal concerns.
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| From | "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> |
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| Date | 2024-02-08 12:56 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <5vod9k-b13.ln1@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au> |
| In reply to | #381971 |
On 08/02/2024 00:45, Michael S wrote: > On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 23:53:22 +1100 > "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote: > >> On 07/02/2024 18:17, Richard Harnden wrote: [SNIP] >>> >>> Wasn't it SHLIB_PATH on HP/UX? >>> >> It still is. (Yes, some of us have to maintain these boxes because, >> although they were all amortised a decade or two ago, someone in a >> bank/taxation department/insurance company/&c knows that replacing >> them will be an expensive and time consuming process. So they'll be >> replaced >> - after they collapse into a pile of rust - in a mad panic with >> Linux boxes with something written in a mad rush in Python/PHP/Perl - >> by people who don't understand the requirements, briefed by people >> who don't understand the requirements - that sort of does the same >> job the old machines did, if you squint really, really hard. And >> /don't/ get audited by anyone competent. However, that one's >> *really* unlikely. :-) ) >> >> Cheers, >> Gary B-) > > It does not have to be replaced with new solution even after original > hardware died. > https://www.stromasys.com/solution/charon-par/ > > For those that are currently on IPF variant of HP-UX, working hardware > is still easily available. However when it wouldn't be, I'd expect > that the same company will provide emulation solution. My theory is > that they already have it done, but as long as "real" HW is available > they are afraid to sell IPF emulators because of legal concerns. > Oh, we know about Charon. It's not that great, and does not give what is needed in the enterprise space. Also, it costs real money, not the sort of monopoly money that can be hidden away in a few more VMs and paying consluttants. :-) And while there are still sources of used metal out there, the stuff is getting very long in the tooth, I expect that once what is in use starts to die then most of what can be sourced will have the same problems. And it's not like they're planning ahead for the inevitable failures, that's far too expensive to be considered, this year, at least[1]. Hopefully I'll be well-recovered before the rust hits the floor. ;-) Cheers, Gary B-) 1 - FVO "this year" that equal "every year".
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