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  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 18:36 -0500
    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 19:27 -0500
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 17:18 -0800
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 23:26 -0500
        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 20:30 -0800
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk> - 2021-01-04 17:25 +0000
        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 12:36 -0500
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk> - 2021-01-04 22:43 +0000
    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 17:14 -0800
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2021-01-04 21:02 +0000
        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2021-01-04 22:15 +0000
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 14:43 -0800
        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 14:33 -0800
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching arnold@hooterville.invalid (Arnold Ziffel) - 2021-01-07 10:56 +0000
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 11:50 -0800
    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-01-04 07:23 +0000
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 08:19 -0500
        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-01-05 08:16 +0000
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 08:24 -0500
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 20:41 +0300
              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 12:48 -0500
                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-01-05 19:32 +0000
                  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 14:45 -0500
                    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2021-01-06 00:09 +0300
                      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 13:18 -0800
                      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2021-01-05 14:18 -0800
                      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 20:47 -0500
                        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk> - 2021-01-06 13:12 +0000
                      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2021-01-05 18:41 -0800
    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-01-04 08:32 +0100
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching test <test-user@nospam.example> - 2021-01-05 03:56 -0600

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#158183

On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin:
> 
>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
> 
> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
> have given you a beating or called the police.

These are public forums.  It's the equivalent of a person standing on 
the street corner speaking.  You're free to pass on by.  You're not free 
to not encounter such people in public spaces.

If a person were to send you private email, that's an issue where the 
police could get involved because that would be like that person 
following you around personally and individually.

The messages I post are not directed at individuals, except in response 
to them engaging me.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#158187

On 05/01/2021 17:48, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 > On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
 >> Rick C. Hodgin:
 >>
 >>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
 >>
 >> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
 >> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
 >> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
 >> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
 >> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
 >> have given you a beating or called the police.
 >
 > These are public forums.  It's the equivalent of a person standing on
 > the street corner speaking.

No it isn't. It's the equivalent of a programming user group meeting in 
a public hall, where everyone is welcome to come and /discuss coding/ in 
some language or other, but which keeps getting interrupted by some 
religious nutter spouting his beliefs.

There are public places to do your evangelising, but this isn't it. It 
just pisses everyone off.

For example, you can try speaking on a street corner...

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#158188

On 1/5/21 2:32 PM, Bart wrote:
> On 05/01/2021 17:48, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>  > On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
>  >> Rick C. Hodgin:
>  >>
>  >>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
>  >>
>  >> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
>  >> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
>  >> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
>  >> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
>  >> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
>  >> have given you a beating or called the police.
>  >
>  > These are public forums.  It's the equivalent of a person standing on
>  > the street corner speaking.
> 
> No it isn't. It's the equivalent of a programming user group meeting in 
> a public hall, where everyone is welcome to come and /discuss coding/ in 
> some language or other, but which keeps getting interrupted by some 
> religious nutter spouting his beliefs.

Not a public hall.  It's an outdoor meeting place.  Anyone can step into 
this group and post.  It could be taken over by spammers, for example, 
who want to talk about painting.  As long as they ignored the calls of 
the regulars to stop talking about painting, and just kept talking about 
it, it would be taken over.

If these groups were moderated, then it would be like being in a public 
hall because the owner of the university or facility or whatever could 
stop in and say, "Leave" and would have standing with the police to have 
their request enforced.

> There are public places to do your evangelising, but this isn't it. It 
> just pisses everyone off.
> 
> For example, you can try speaking on a street corner...

What makes you think I don't, Bart?  I've mentioned a dozen times I talk 
about Jesus wherever I am.  I wear a hat that says "Jesus Inside" like 
the Intel logo.  I make choice in my life, sir.

-----
To be clear:  Christians walk a fine line.  We're commanded by God to 
teach people about sin, their need of salvation, about Jesus, and to 
also be in the world.

People priority on today, what their eyes see and their belly wants. 
They don't consider eternity.  But eternity is infinity:1 more important 
than the here and now because it goes on forever.

Everyone, literally every last person, who has shunned me in these 
groups, and who doesn't come to faith in Jesus Christ, is going to lash 
out at me on the day of judgment yelling at me, demanding to know why I 
didn't try harder to save their soul.

It's that fine line Christians walk.  But we remember also, the message 
isn't for those who won't be saved.  It's for those who will.  And 
believe it or not, there are people who communicate with me that they 
are moved by these posts.  It is making a difference in people's lives.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#158190

Rick C. Hodgin:

> Not a public hall.  It's an outdoor meeting place.  Anyone
> can step into this group and post.

Yes, anyone can do it, but he may not if the post is off-
topic:

   https://benpfaff.org/writings/clc/off-topic.html

Anyone can throw stones at windows, run away from
restaurants without paying, steal from supermarkets, or
whatever nasty think you imagine. There is only one
difference that I can see -- a high possibility of real
punishment. But we all know that it is only evil people that
abstain from doing wrong for fear of punishment. Normal
people abstain from it because... it is wrong. In which
category do you belong?

> If these groups were moderated, then it would be like
> being in a public hall because the owner of the university
> or facility or whatever could stop in and say, "Leave" and
> would have standing with the police to have their request
> enforced.

Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
of thug are you?

-- 
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#158191

Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> writes:
> Rick C. Hodgin:
[snip]
> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
> of thug are you?

Rick has made it abundantly clear, repeatedly over several years,
that he will continue to spam.  Please do not waste everyone else's
time arguing with him in public.  If you want to complain to him,
he posts with a valid email address.  If you want to complain *about*
him, please don't do it here.

Those who bypass my filters by replying to his spam risk having their
own posts filtered as well.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#158195

Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> writes:

>> [...]
>
> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to?  What kind
> of thug are you?

Let me add my voice to Keith's and ask that you not engage in
this kind of discussion in comp.lang.c (or really any group
where it is not topical).  Unfortunately the particular person
you were responding to has shown a tendency to shift other
discussions to this kind of off-topic area, so I feel forced
to recommend that you simply avoid any discussion at all with
him.

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#158202

On 1/5/21 4:09 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
> of thug are you?

Anton, I can apologize to you for coming across harsh or rude or 
whatever other way you see me.  I am compassionate and care about people 
and I don't want them to be angry with me.

But consider...

What if I'm right?  What if sin exists, Jesus is real, judgment is 
coming, and the way out is through forgiveness of sin by Jesus Christ?

How much more would I have to hate you, and to be a thug to you, to NOT 
warn you about these things?  And to not warn you significantly about them?

The fact is:  Jesus is real.  Sin is real.  Judgment is coming.

These messages go forth so that you will be able to hear the warning and 
take corrective action with the course of your life.

Is the enemy of God, the anti-Christ spirit, who would label me warning 
people about coming judgment as some kind of wrong thing to do, because 
the spirit of God cries out to every human soul continually, knocking at 
the door saying, "Come to me and I will forgive you.  I will make you 
whole!"

There was a preacher who rode on horseback back in the 1800s.  A famous 
preacher from England.  He said it best:

     "If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our
      dead bodies.  And if they perish, let them perish with our arms
      wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay.  If Hell must
      be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and
      let not one go unwarned and unprayed for."

          -- C.H. Spurgeon

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/98/93/f9/9893f94336c2e20d01099c2dbdb81a37.jpg

I care about you enough to warn you.  I don't warn all the time.  I warn 
when things come up that are topical.  CHRISTmas.  This changing world. 
The coming rapture.  The preparation for the mark of the beast and 
one-world government system.

These are the things that spark me to move, because I already have a 
foundational caring for each of you in my soul.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#158216

On 06/01/2021 01:47, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> The fact is:  Jesus is real.  Sin is real.  Judgment is coming.

And Satan invented fossils, yes? Spammer?

[snip - tl;dr]

/Flibble

-- 
😎

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#158203

On Tuesday, 5 January 2021 at 23:10:01 UTC+2, Anton Shepelev wrote:

> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind 
> of thug are you?

He has already explained that whatever Bible says about false
prophets that he will continue his false prophesies as God does
not force hm to stop. So what can we, worthless people do? 
Only way is not to answer him ever.

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#158145

On 04/01/2021 00:36, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

<snip dangerous conspiracy theories>

Rick, it is one thing to espouse your religious theories.  If you think
your particular beliefs will give you a better life, or some kind of
"life after death", that's up to you.

But do /not/ spread conspiracy theories about real-life serious matters
that are completely beyond your understanding.  Vaccines are a necessary
inconvenience - the alternative is people dying or suffering
unnecessarily from this pandemic, and they are the only way to get back
to some semblance of normality in society.

Listen to whatever crackpot internet poster and youtuber you want in
regards to your religious beliefs.  Listen to your /doctor/ for medical
advice.

Follow the advice of the appropriate health authorities on the need for
masks, testing and other precautions and preventative measures.  Follow
their advice about vaccines.

Do not encourage others to endanger their healths and the healths of
people around them on the basis of misinformation and wild conspiracy
theories.


(This is not an invitation to discussion - it is a counter to
potentially dangerous postings.  I know Rick will not read or heed
anything I post.  If anyone else feels they want to discuss vaccines and
the current pandemic seriously, my email address is valid.  Or they can
look up the WHO website, their country's health authority's website, or
talk to a doctor.)

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#158174

On 1/4/21 1:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
> On 04/01/2021 00:36, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> 
> <snip dangerous conspiracy theories>
> 
> Rick, it is one thing to espouse your religious theories.  If you think
> your particular beliefs will give you a better life, or some kind of
> "life after death", that's up to you.
> 
> But do /not/ spread conspiracy theories about real-life serious matters
> that are completely beyond your understanding.  Vaccines are a necessary
> inconvenience - the alternative is people dying or suffering
> unnecessarily from this pandemic, and they are the only way to get back
> to some semblance of normality in society.
> 
> Listen to whatever crackpot internet poster and youtuber you want in
> regards to your religious beliefs.  Listen to your /doctor/ for medical
> advice.
> 
> Follow the advice of the appropriate health authorities on the need for
> masks, testing and other precautions and preventative measures.  Follow
> their advice about vaccines.
> 
> Do not encourage others to endanger their healths and the healths of
> people around them on the basis of misinformation and wild conspiracy
> theories.
> 
> 
> (This is not an invitation to discussion - it is a counter to
> potentially dangerous postings.  I know Rick will not read or heed
> anything I post.  If anyone else feels they want to discuss vaccines and
> the current pandemic seriously, my email address is valid.  Or they can
> look up the WHO website, their country's health authority's website, or
> talk to a doctor.)
> 

How much are you being paid to concern troll?

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