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| Started by | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| First post | 2024-02-09 00:39 +0000 |
| Last post | 2024-02-16 04:11 +0100 |
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How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 00:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 00:53 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 02:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-10 07:31 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 01:13 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 09:27 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 10:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-09 10:36 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 13:17 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-09 14:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 22:41 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 23:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 13:03 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 10:46 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 14:43 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 14:42 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:54 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 16:35 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:09 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 17:22 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:34 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:02 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 19:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 21:48 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:09 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:23 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:37 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-11 12:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 17:38 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 09:49 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:04 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 10:28 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 18:52 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 20:20 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 13:11 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-02-09 23:11 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 22:14 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? dave_thompson_2@comcast.net - 2024-02-26 04:22 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-27 12:40 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-27 13:21 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-29 21:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 02:37 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 03:06 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 15:02 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:46 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 20:16 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 20:17 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 16:53 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:49 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:55 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 13:06 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 16:58 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:49 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-11 00:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:50 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 00:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:45 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 00:17 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-11 01:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 01:18 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 17:34 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 01:42 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 18:00 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-11 05:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 21:37 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:12 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:34 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:26 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 11:38 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 14:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 13:57 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 16:04 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 08:20 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 08:13 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 17:43 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 03:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 20:12 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:23 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:44 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:38 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-15 15:55 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 08:27 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 10:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 16:55 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 18:05 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 18:00 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:40 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 20:27 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 09:07 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 09:35 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 11:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 12:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 14:15 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 12:32 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-13 13:56 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 15:10 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 15:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:30 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:35 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 18:58 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:27 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 19:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 21:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 21:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-13 22:50 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:55 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:22 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 12:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 22:56 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 15:30 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 02:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 09:35 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 09:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 11:11 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 10:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 13:32 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-15 08:23 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:51 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 17:27 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:37 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:46 +0000
Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 11:30 +0000
Re: Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-14 14:14 +0200
Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:46 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 14:17 +0000
Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 16:03 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 17:04 +0000
Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 17:58 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 19:35 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:07 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-14 21:01 +0000
Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:47 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 01:07 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 03:08 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 11:44 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 16:40 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 18:02 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 00:29 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:45 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:56 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 10:32 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:05 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:41 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:26 +0000
Re: Building Code Again scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:10 +0000
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 15:36 +0000
Re: Building Code Again David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 22:16 +0100
Re: Building Code Again bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 21:29 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 00:19 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 04:42 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 05:53 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 09:54 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:48 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:51 +0000
Re: Building Code Again (was: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 13:40 +0100
Re: Building Code Again Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:13 +0000
Re: Building Code Again Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 21:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:58 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 22:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:57 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-15 17:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 22:18 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 19:53 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:17 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:42 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:00 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-13 22:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 14:19 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:51 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:21 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:37 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:20 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-15 13:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-17 20:45 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 20:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:16 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:39 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:40 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 16:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 18:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-18 22:34 +0000
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Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:16 +0100
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Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 22:36 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 16:28 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 18:09 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 08:04 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 17:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-02-19 19:21 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 00:05 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:37 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 03:32 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 17:06 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 12:37 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 19:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-21 00:34 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 06:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:19 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 18:19 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 17:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 09:46 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 19:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 18:14 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 11:01 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-20 20:09 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:03 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-21 00:33 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 00:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-21 01:57 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-21 06:21 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-21 09:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 09:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 11:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 13:03 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-21 01:35 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 02:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-20 11:02 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 13:37 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-20 16:32 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 17:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-21 09:27 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-21 11:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:43 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:43 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:11 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 12:13 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-02-21 01:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 02:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:00 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 23:41 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:42 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 02:14 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:17 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:29 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:33 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 16:18 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 17:55 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 17:22 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 07:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-18 09:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-18 11:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 12:00 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.harnden@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-18 12:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:19 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:59 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:48 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 16:41 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 08:54 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 15:23 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 17:13 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:04 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 13:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 16:01 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 15:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-17 22:08 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-17 20:13 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-17 22:33 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:52 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-17 17:35 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 23:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 15:59 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:23 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 23:53 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:38 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 02:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:19 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-19 15:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 10:02 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 04:34 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:18 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-19 00:39 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:35 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-20 03:18 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 10:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 23:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-20 23:22 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 12:20 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 21:24 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-16 21:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-16 16:52 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-17 01:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Harnden <richard.harnden@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-17 10:08 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-18 04:32 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 14:02 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-17 05:07 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:09 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 13:07 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-17 16:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 18:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-17 19:37 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 16:01 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:59 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:21 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-15 16:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 17:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-16 08:33 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-16 17:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-17 15:56 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:18 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-16 02:29 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 08:59 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:11 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-17 12:11 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-18 16:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 23:39 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-19 09:50 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:45 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 10:01 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 23:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-16 23:44 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:42 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 11:09 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 12:09 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:54 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 17:42 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 17:56 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:01 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-18 21:07 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:01 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-19 10:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 10:52 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 22:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:18 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-14 20:52 +0000
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Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:23 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:20 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 03:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-15 06:14 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:55 +0100
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Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 00:36 +0100
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Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-14 03:02 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 20:10 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 13:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:13 +0100
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Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-14 15:29 +0100
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Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:15 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-15 15:16 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:03 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-16 09:49 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-16 15:35 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-17 18:54 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:52 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 13:15 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-12 12:49 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 14:51 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-12 15:33 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:09 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:48 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-10 22:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-11 13:57 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:14 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 17:34 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-14 01:21 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:59 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-14 12:02 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 08:03 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-14 20:31 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 21:53 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 14:47 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:42 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-15 14:40 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:04 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:11 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 22:31 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-17 16:10 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 16:45 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 02:35 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-17 18:07 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 06:45 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-02-18 12:37 -0500
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 06:46 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 06:12 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:38 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 10:57 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 02:28 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-18 11:02 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:36 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 11:01 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-18 15:31 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-18 17:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:10 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-18 22:09 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 05:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-19 05:13 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 07:54 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 17:48 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 08:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-19 18:14 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-20 01:31 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-20 09:26 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-19 17:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-19 19:17 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 22:07 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-14 15:50 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 15:58 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 16:52 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 18:23 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 17:06 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:41 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:31 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-13 18:34 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 18:40 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:20 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-15 08:38 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:14 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 15:43 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 16:57 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:29 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:22 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-13 17:30 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 17:33 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 19:49 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-13 18:01 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-13 20:19 +0200
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-13 19:02 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-13 13:25 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-14 21:54 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-14 22:17 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-15 06:07 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-09 19:47 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:31 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-10 08:05 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-10 17:06 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:39 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-11 17:21 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 16:12 -0300
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 16:15 -0300
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-12 01:13 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-11 19:09 -0800
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-13 17:52 +0100
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-16 01:09 +0000
Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-16 04:11 +0100
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2024-02-15 14:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uql32m$3apfo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382511 |
On 15/02/2024 07:37, Tim Rentsch wrote: > scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >> >>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 14:19:20 -0800, Keith Thompson wrote: >>> >>>> But C has a *lot* of precedence levels, and they're not all >>>> obvious. >>>> >>>> If I see `a | b ^ c`, I'm not likely to remember off the top of my >>>> head ... >>> >>> So don't remember off the top of your head, [just] keep the docs >>> handy. That's what I do. >> >> Why? The code is easier to read and maintain if the precedence is >> made explicit. > > Every serious C developer should know all the operator precedence > relationships without having to look them up. > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman> /Serious/ developers write code that is as clear as they can. They know where references are for when they need them, but do not waste cognitive effort memorising things that are better expressed in a different way (such as by using parentheses or breaking expressions into parts). > In cases where it is still felt necessary to indicate how different > operators parse with respect to one another, it's better to do that > using spacing than with parentheses, as for example > > a | b^c > > or > > alpha | beta ^ gamma > No, that is the silliest thing to do. Don't write code that looks like what you think it should mean - even if it happens to match the somewhat arbitrary choices of a language. Write code that does exactly what you mean, clearly and unequivocally, and requires the minimum of cognitive effort on the part of the reader. People make mistakes, even if they are "serious C developers". And if you start using spaces to make it look like you are correct, neither you nor others looking at the code will notice mistakes like : alpha ^ beta | gamma If you use parentheses for less common operator precedence cases, as Keith suggests, your code will be clear and there will be an obvious and immediate match between what the programmer intended, what the compiler does, and what any reader (experienced or not) will see.
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| Message-ID | <uql4lr$3avsv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382530 |
On 15/02/2024 13:20, David Brown wrote: > On 15/02/2024 07:37, Tim Rentsch wrote: >> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes: >> >>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: >>> >>>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 14:19:20 -0800, Keith Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>>> But C has a *lot* of precedence levels, and they're not all >>>>> obvious. >>>>> >>>>> If I see `a | b ^ c`, I'm not likely to remember off the top of my >>>>> head ... >>>> >>>> So don't remember off the top of your head, [just] keep the docs >>>> handy. That's what I do. >>> >>> Why? The code is easier to read and maintain if the precedence is >>> made explicit. >> >> Every serious C developer should know all the operator precedence >> relationships without having to look them up. >> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman> > > /Serious/ developers write code that is as clear as they can. They know > where references are for when they need them, but do not waste cognitive > effort memorising things that are better expressed in a different way > (such as by using parentheses or breaking expressions into parts). > >> In cases where it is still felt necessary to indicate how different >> operators parse with respect to one another, it's better to do that >> using spacing than with parentheses, as for example >> >> a | b^c >> >> or >> >> alpha | beta ^ gamma >> > > No, that is the silliest thing to do. Don't write code that looks like > what you think it should mean - even if it happens to match the somewhat > arbitrary choices of a language. Write code that does exactly what you > mean, clearly and unequivocally, and requires the minimum of cognitive > effort on the part of the reader. > > People make mistakes, even if they are "serious C developers". And if > you start using spaces to make it look like you are correct, neither you > nor others looking at the code will notice mistakes like : > > alpha ^ beta | gamma > > If you use parentheses for less common operator precedence cases, as > Keith suggests, your code will be clear and there will be an obvious and > immediate match between what the programmer intended, what the compiler > does, and what any reader (experienced or not) will see. You have to wonder why the creators of C thought it was a good idea in the first place to have so many precedence levels, if you're going to end up using parentheses anyway to disambiguate. There are 10 levels for binary operators (excl. augmented assignment); for the same set of operators, I have only 5 for example. I don't know about other languages, but splitting == != < <= >= > into two levels is surely an odd thing to do, for a start.
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-17 20:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqr2cn$ilis$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382535 |
On 15.02.2024 14:47, bart wrote:
> On 15/02/2024 13:20, David Brown wrote:
>> [...]
>
> You have to wonder why the creators of C thought it was a good idea in
> the first place to have so many precedence levels, if you're going to
> end up using parentheses anyway to disambiguate.
I can't comment on the "parentheses to disambiguate" statement you are
referring to. Where and when folks are using parentheses, IME, depends
on various factors, and there are personal preferences for one's own
personal projects, and [sensible] rules in larger projects' contexts.
Parentheses are certainly not to disambiguate; precedence rules are
there to disambiguate! Parenthesis are necessary to express semantics
where an expression not put in parenthesis would yield something else
than you wanted. And parentheses can also clarify *programmatically*
how an expression has to be understood, whereas (for example) using
indentation and formatting can only give (unreliable!) hints about
the programmer's intention.
>
> There are 10 levels for binary operators (excl. augmented assignment);
For C - if in doubt - I'm still looking up my old K&R book; here I
find a table with altogether 15 entries. (And that's really a lot.)
> for the same set of operators, I have only 5 for example.
Less distinguished levels implies that you need more parentheses.
(And I make no valuation here, just observe, and conclude.)
>
> I don't know about other languages, but splitting == != < <= >= > into
> two levels is surely an odd thing to do, for a start.
Whether something is appearing "odd" or not depends on ones experience
and knowledge. C was certainly not the first language that separated
equalities ('==' and '!=') from the comparisons that imply an ordering.
Algol, for example, did that as well. But Algol had less precedence
levels (1..10) - though a lot more operators than C. But, OTOH, Algol
is also more complex here; it allows to define own operators and assign
precedences to these. And even "well known" operator precedences might
not apply if used on other types; for example an 'op * (matrix, matrix)'
might have a lower precedence than an 'op + (matrix, matrix)'. Pascal,
for example, has "completely" other rules (if compared to C or Algol),
as far as boolean operations are concerned. Here the boolean 'AND' is
close to the '*' and '/', and the 'OR' is defined close to the '+' and
'-'; the rules makes it necessary to use parentheses (whether we like
them or not) when combinations with comparison operator types appear.
Given a "hierarchy of types" model, with 'bool' as the most elementary
type[*] B, and arbitrary (e.g. scalar) types S, we observe functions
that stay within B
p: B -> B
q: B x B -> B
functions on types that yield B (like the comparison operators)
r: S -> B
s: S x S -> B
and types unrelated to B
t: S -> S
u: S x S -> S
With that model one would naturally write (without parenthesis), say,
ABS A = ABS B OR X < -5 + 4 * 3^2 AND P = NOT Q
without thinking or a lookup necessary (despite there being about 10
operator precedences involved).
But note that '==' and '!=' are not only used for functions of the
type S x S -> B but can also be used for function type B x B -> B .
So it's sensible to have these two operators on a lower precedence
level level that the ordering functions.[**]
From the languages mentioned above (as examples) the most coherent
and sophisticatedly chosen precedences rules are, IMO, not found in
Pascal or C. (YMMV.)
Janis
[*] Note to all those who think 'integer' is the most basic type on
computers because they basically handle integral numbers; this sort of
discussion probably deserves an own thread (if anyone's interested).
[**] Here as well; I'm aware that for programmers from the C world it
might be difficult to get rid of the "everything (including bool) is
an integer" way of thinking. From a language design perspective that
is an hindrance, though. And also the implication that there would
be an ordering [conceptually] necessary, say, that 'true' < 'false'
or the other way round, is a hindrance to understanding why '==' and
'!=' is more universal than the ordering operators (which is for bool
unnecessary; which again doesn't say anything about a possible value
in practice to *have* an ordering defined for bool).
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-17 20:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uqr5t0$jcff$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382622 |
On 17/02/2024 19:45, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > On 15.02.2024 14:47, bart wrote: >> On 15/02/2024 13:20, David Brown wrote: >>> [...] >> >> You have to wonder why the creators of C thought it was a good idea in >> the first place to have so many precedence levels, if you're going to >> end up using parentheses anyway to disambiguate. > > I can't comment on the "parentheses to disambiguate" statement you are > referring to. Where and when folks are using parentheses, IME, depends > on various factors, and there are personal preferences for one's own > personal projects, and [sensible] rules in larger projects' contexts. > > Parentheses are certainly not to disambiguate; precedence rules are > there to disambiguate! Parenthesis are necessary to express semantics > where an expression not put in parenthesis would yield something else > than you wanted. And parentheses can also clarify *programmatically* > how an expression has to be understood, whereas (for example) using > indentation and formatting can only give (unreliable!) hints about > the programmer's intention. > In computer programs it is normally acceptable to write a = b + c * d and because programs contain so many similar expressions, and because the reader is another programmer and knows that the meaning is constrained by the language as well as by convention, it will not cause any confusion. But in a non-computer, non-professional mathematical context, it is too likely to cause confusion, and you must write a = b + (c * d). That's for the widely known and accepted convention about the four rules of arithmetic. Taught in British schools as Bodmas, or sometimes Bidmas (i is for index). Enough people also know that "or" is lower precedence than "and" in logical expressions. But for anything else, all bets are off, and again, you must use parentheses. -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-18 02:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqrlpo$mhj5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382626 |
On 17.02.2024 21:45, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>
> In computer programs it is normally acceptable to write a = b + c * d
> and because programs contain so many similar expressions, and because
> the reader is another programmer and knows that the meaning is
> constrained by the language as well as by convention, it will not cause
> any confusion. But in a non-computer, non-professional mathematical
> context, it is too likely to cause confusion, and you must write a = b +
> (c * d).
I cannot follow you where you write about "non-computer" etc. contexts.
Are you really saying that the '*' is evaluated before '+' rule is not
generally taught and well known? I mean, I'd expect that anyone who is
doing even most simple arithmetic calculations must know that; knowing
the total price, for example, when buying a bread and 3 pretzels.
>
> That's for the widely known and accepted convention about the four rules
> of arithmetic. Taught in British schools as Bodmas, or sometimes Bidmas
> (i is for index).
Okay, that seems to be what I was also saying. (I don't know the terms
Bodmas/Bidmas, though. Here we have the "Punkt vor Strich" Rule; "dot
before dash", where the dot operations are mult and add, and the dash
operations plus and minus, according to the symbols used in writing,
'·' ':' '+' '-'.)
> Enough people also know that "or" is lower precedence
> than "and" in logical expressions. But for anything else, all bets are
> off, and again, you must use parentheses.
Right. - I'm not saying that you should avoid parenthesis, rather the
opposite; make things clear where it helps. And if in doubt use some
parentheses. Maintainers of such code will be grateful for such easy
to spot means of generating clarity.
(I think the other poster's exaggerative use of negative wording when
using parentheses must have some "parentheses everywhere" nightmare in
mind; but I can't tell.)
But I'm also saying that a language can be designed in a more or less
helpful ("natural") way concerning precedence. In a well-designed
language you can choose the best parenthesis-level depending on the
context (formulas and people), in a not so good designed language you
may have to use parentheses at places where it's not so clear why you
have to. And you may experience an issue with your or others' code.
Janis
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-18 02:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqrn4p$mqi2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382647 |
On 18.02.2024 02:16, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > > Okay, that seems to be what I was also saying. (I don't know the terms > Bodmas/Bidmas, though. Here we have the "Punkt vor Strich" Rule; "dot > before dash", where the dot operations are mult and add, and the dash Should have been: "dot operations are mult and div" > operations plus and minus, according to the symbols used in writing, > '·' ':' '+' '-'.)
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-18 02:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uqrqml$n43b$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382647 |
On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 02:16:39 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> (I don't know the terms Bodmas/Bidmas, though. ...
We learned BODMAS, too. Although I remember the “O” stood for “Of”, as in
implied multiplication. So that binds more tightly than division (“D”),
which in turn binds more tightly than explicit multiplication (“M”). So
for example
a ÷ b(c + d)
should be interpreted as
a ÷ (b(c + d))
while
a ÷ b × (c + d)
should be interpreted as
(a ÷ b) × (c + d)
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2024-02-18 15:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqt57b$16rno$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382657 |
On 18/02/2024 03:40, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 02:16:39 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > >> (I don't know the terms Bodmas/Bidmas, though. ... > > We learned BODMAS, too. Although I remember the “O” stood for “Of”, as in > implied multiplication. So that binds more tightly than division (“D”), > which in turn binds more tightly than explicit multiplication (“M”). So > for example > > a ÷ b(c + d) > > should be interpreted as > > a ÷ (b(c + d)) > > while > > a ÷ b × (c + d) > > should be interpreted as > > (a ÷ b) × (c + d) Having been educated in Britain, I have never heard of "Bodmas" or "Bidmas". I don't recall any mnemonic for the rules of precedence in normal arithmetic. In written maths, you can use spacing and free arrangement of symbols to indicate precedence. But you should be very careful of mixing division and multiplication operators unless it is clear from the layout - the way people interpret these things differ. Different countries have different rules, and the rules change over time.
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-18 16:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqt6de$17fjt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382684 |
On 18.02.2024 15:46, David Brown wrote: > [...] Different countries have > different rules, and the rules change over time. In my country luckily not the (long established) math rules. Janis
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-18 18:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uqth9q$1cn02$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382684 |
On 18/02/2024 14:46, David Brown wrote: > On 18/02/2024 03:40, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 02:16:39 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote: >> >>> (I don't know the terms Bodmas/Bidmas, though. ... >> >> We learned BODMAS, too. Although I remember the “O” stood for “Of”, as in >> implied multiplication. So that binds more tightly than division (“D”), >> which in turn binds more tightly than explicit multiplication (“M”). So >> for example >> >> a ÷ b(c + d) >> >> should be interpreted as >> >> a ÷ (b(c + d)) >> >> while >> >> a ÷ b × (c + d) >> >> should be interpreted as >> >> (a ÷ b) × (c + d) > > Having been educated in Britain, I have never heard of "Bodmas" or > "Bidmas". I don't recall any mnemonic for the rules of precedence in > normal arithmetic. > My sister used to be maths teacher and she taught Bodmas. I remember because she pointed out that there was some inconsistency in it which had confused a child, but I can't remember what that was, I think it was ti do with unary minus. Brackets, of, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction. "of" doesn't really appear in school mathematical expressions and was mainly to make it pronouceable, and it is now "Bidmas" where "i" is "index", meaning exponent. > In written maths, you can use spacing and free arrangement of symbols to > indicate precedence. But you should be very careful of mixing division > and multiplication operators unless it is clear from the layout - the > way people interpret these things differ. Different countries have > different rules, and the rules change over time. > I read a lot of mathematical papers that I haven't been formally trained how to read or understand, and it is often challenging. But precedence is seldom a difficulty. -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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| From | Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2024-02-18 22:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <87ttm5ieqp.fsf@bsb.me.uk> |
| In reply to | #382701 |
Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes: > On 18/02/2024 14:46, David Brown wrote: >> On 18/02/2024 03:40, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 02:16:39 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote: >>> >>>> (I don't know the terms Bodmas/Bidmas, though. ... >>> >>> We learned BODMAS, too. Although I remember the “O” stood for “Of”, as in >>> implied multiplication. So that binds more tightly than division (“D”), >>> which in turn binds more tightly than explicit multiplication (“M”). So >>> for example >>> >>> a ÷ b(c + d) >>> >>> should be interpreted as >>> >>> a ÷ (b(c + d)) >>> >>> while >>> >>> a ÷ b × (c + d) >>> >>> should be interpreted as >>> >>> (a ÷ b) × (c + d) >> Having been educated in Britain, I have never heard of "Bodmas" or >> "Bidmas". I don't recall any mnemonic for the rules of precedence in >> normal arithmetic. >> > My sister used to be maths teacher and she taught Bodmas. I remember > because she pointed out that there was some inconsistency in it which had > confused a child, but I can't remember what that was, I think it was ti do > with unary minus. Maybe she knew what was wrong with it, but was forced to teach it anyway. It *can* be taught correctly, but a simple web search shows that it usually isn't. The trouble is that most people (and most online resources) make the order strict: first brackets, orders, division, multiplication, addition and finally subtraction, so 3 - 2 + 1 should have the addition done before the subtraction which is just wrong. Explaining (as some teachers no doubt try to do) that the "DM" and particularly "AS" bits are "grouped": first brackets, orders, then divisions and multiplications, and finally additions and subtractions (done left to right) is not really a good solution. It's just too easy to think it's simply an exact sequence to be followed. > Brackets, of, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction. "of" doesn't > really appear in school mathematical expressions and was mainly to make it > pronouceable, and it is now "Bidmas" where "i" is "index", meaning > exponent. I've always seen it rendered as "orders". I think "indexes" is better, but it does not fix the basic problem. And, for the record, I was never taught it. -- Ben.
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| From | Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-02-18 23:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uqu2ia$1g7ff$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382715 |
On 18/02/2024 22:34, Ben Bacarisse wrote: [BODMAS] > > I've always seen it rendered as "orders". I think "indexes" is better, > but it does not fix the basic problem. > > And, for the record, I was never taught it. > Just curious - Were you taught SOHCAHTOA for trig? I always found that easy to remember.
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| From | Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-19 00:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <C1GdneKfeajoBk_4nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #382724 |
On 18/02/2024 23:06, Richard Harnden wrote:
> On 18/02/2024 22:34, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>
> [BODMAS]
>
>>
>> I've always seen it rendered as "orders". I think "indexes" is better,
>> but it does not fix the basic problem.
>>
>> And, for the record, I was never taught it.
>>
>
> Just curious - Were you taught SOHCAHTOA for trig? I always found that easy to remember.
>
Never heard that one - is it thought of as one long word??
Just as we're on the subject, a friend of mine at high school was pleased with himself for inventing
what might be the most useless maths mnemonic ever:
Smelly Armpits Cause Termites
ok, it's memorable for sure, no problem on that front! But I was baffled why he thought it
important to have a mnemonic for what it explains. (Plus it's hardly logical (mathematically) even
if you know what it's explaining!)
ob. Puzzle - what was his mnemonic helping him remember? [hint: it's trig related]
Mike.
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-19 02:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uque87$1i55a$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382732 |
On 19/02/2024 00:06, Mike Terry wrote: > On 18/02/2024 23:06, Richard Harnden wrote: >> On 18/02/2024 22:34, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >> >> [BODMAS] >> >>> >>> I've always seen it rendered as "orders". I think "indexes" is better, >>> but it does not fix the basic problem. >>> >>> And, for the record, I was never taught it. >>> >> >> Just curious - Were you taught SOHCAHTOA for trig? I always found >> that easy to remember. >> > > Never heard that one - is it thought of as one long word?? > > Just as we're on the subject, a friend of mine at high school was > pleased with himself for inventing what might be the most useless maths > mnemonic ever: > > Smelly Armpits Cause Termites > > ok, it's memorable for sure, no problem on that front! But I was > baffled why he thought it important to have a mnemonic for what it > explains. (Plus it's hardly logical (mathematically) even if you know > what it's explaining!) > > ob. Puzzle - what was his mnemonic helping him remember? [hint: it's > trig related] > > Ah, Virtually the same as ours. Our maths teacher was Selby Brock (a brilliant man who taught that the earth was flat), and someone coined "Selby always teaches crap". But of course the child went the wrong way around. -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2024-02-19 08:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <uqv1nm$1ovej$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382736 |
On 19/02/2024 03:26, Malcolm McLean wrote: > Our maths teacher was Selby Brock (a > brilliant man who taught that the earth was flat), Isn't that somewhat of an oxymoron? I had one primary teacher that taught that there were 10 planets (Pluto was still called a planet at the time, and he counted the sun as a planet) and another that did not consider the sun to be a star or the earth to be a planet. But these were /not/ good teachers. It's conceivable that this person was a good teacher of maths, but that's different from being a good teacher in general.
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| From | Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-19 14:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uqvo4k$1tfor$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382749 |
On 19/02/2024 07:58, David Brown wrote: > On 19/02/2024 03:26, Malcolm McLean wrote: >> Our maths teacher was Selby Brock (a brilliant man who taught that the >> earth was flat), > > Isn't that somewhat of an oxymoron? I had one primary teacher that > taught that there were 10 planets (Pluto was still called a planet at > the time, and he counted the sun as a planet) and another that did not > consider the sun to be a star or the earth to be a planet. But these > were /not/ good teachers. > > It's conceivable that this person was a good teacher of maths, but > that's different from being a good teacher in general. > Come on. Some respect and some intelligence. If I say he was a brilliant man I wouldn't say that lightly, and he had very good reasons for teaching that the Earth was flat. It was nonsense, everyone knew it was nonsense, but no boy ever actually managed to prove that it was nonsense, and that was the point. But it perfectly justified "Selby always teaches crap". -- Check out Basic Algorithms and my other books: https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/bgy1mm
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-19 16:20 +0100 |
| Subject | [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? |
| Message-ID | <uqvrjm$1u9qq$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382756 |
On 19.02.2024 15:21, Malcolm McLean wrote: > On 19/02/2024 07:58, David Brown wrote: >> On 19/02/2024 03:26, Malcolm McLean wrote: >>> Our maths teacher was Selby Brock (a brilliant man who taught that >>> the earth was flat), Confirmed by Terry Pratchett. (How else could earth reside stable on top of these elephants.) Or was that yet another [flat] planet? >> Isn't that somewhat of an oxymoron? I had one primary teacher that >> taught that there were 10 planets (Pluto was still called a planet at >> the time, Well, at that time there was at least a hypothesis about a tenth planet, they named it "Transpluto". >> and he counted the sun as a planet) and another that did not >> consider the sun to be a star or the earth to be a planet. But these >> were /not/ good teachers. >> >> It's conceivable that this person was a good teacher of maths, but >> that's different from being a good teacher in general. >> > Come on. Some respect and some intelligence. If I say he was a brilliant > man I wouldn't say that lightly, and he had very good reasons for > teaching that the Earth was flat. What were these "very good reasons"? (Maybe personal, maybe religious reasons, but obviously not good reasons as far as science and reality is concerned.) > It was nonsense, everyone knew it was > nonsense, but no boy ever actually managed to prove that it was > nonsense, and that was the point. Frankly, I'm reluctant to stir this up. But I assume by "no boy" you mean the boys that were in this school? Long ago, since more than 2200(!) years it had already been proven that the earth is spherical, and even its diameter was calculated with good accuracy. This was long before mankind went into earth orbit to even directly observe the earth as sphere. > > But it perfectly justified "Selby always teaches crap". Janis
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2024-02-19 16:52 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? |
| Message-ID | <uqvtg6$1uo1n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382759 |
On 19/02/2024 16:20, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > > Long ago, since more than 2200(!) years it had already been proven > that the earth is spherical, and even its diameter was calculated > with good accuracy. This was long before mankind went into earth > orbit to even directly observe the earth as sphere. > That early calculation of the earth's diameter was accurate by sheer luck - Eratosthenes made a variety of errors that each lead to huge inaccuracies in the calculations, but by chance happened to cancel each other out. He gets full credit for his methods, however. Later astronomers, especially in the Islamic world, measured it more accurately. And the main point - that the earth is basically round, not flat - was proven and known to the classical Greeks and others.
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-19 18:04 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? |
| Message-ID | <ur01nj$1vmpt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382761 |
On 19.02.2024 16:52, David Brown wrote: > On 19/02/2024 16:20, Janis Papanagnou wrote: >> >> Long ago, since more than 2200(!) years it had already been proven >> that the earth is spherical, and even its diameter was calculated >> with good accuracy. This was long before mankind went into earth >> orbit to even directly observe the earth as sphere. >> > > That early calculation of the earth's diameter was accurate by sheer > luck - Eratosthenes made a variety of errors that each lead to huge > inaccuracies in the calculations, but by chance happened to cancel each > other out. He gets full credit for his methods, however. Later > astronomers, especially in the Islamic world, measured it more > accurately. And the main point - that the earth is basically round, not > flat - was proven and known to the classical Greeks and others. (By "sheer luck" - well, okay. Not worth a dispute for me.) Note also that there was another one (before Eratosthenes with his experiment) who concluded a spherical earth by other means. (I just recently heard/read about it but unfortunately forgot the details.) So it was, anyway, long well known knowledge, and it's amazing if some folks still deny that. Janis
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| From | Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-02-19 18:30 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] was Re: How About Disallowing Assignments In Expressions? |
| Message-ID | <ur0372$200ou$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #382766 |
On 19.02.2024 18:04, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > > Note also that there was another one (before Eratosthenes with > his experiment) who concluded a spherical earth by other means. > (I just recently heard/read about it but unfortunately forgot > the details.) [...] Just searched for it and found: Aristoteles deducing it from the shape of the earth's shade on the surface of the moon. (And some more people, like Pythagoras and Platon, assumed a spherical earth; but I cannot find any experimentally backed up reason for that given in the text I found.) Janis
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