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Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?

Started byDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
First post2025-03-18 21:38 -0400
Last post2025-03-23 12:29 -0400
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  Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-18 21:38 -0400
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 19:05 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 19:22 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-18 22:43 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 20:11 -0700
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-18 20:07 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-18 23:34 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 04:01 +0000
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 00:38 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-18 22:27 -0700
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 13:23 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-19 13:40 -0400
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 11:56 -0700
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 15:06 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-19 12:52 -0700
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 11:55 +0200
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 13:23 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 17:38 +0000
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 20:19 +0200
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 19:03 +0000
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 05:09 -0700
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 12:23 +0000
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-20 13:36 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 14:00 +0000
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-20 14:32 +0000
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 15:11 +0000
                            Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 16:37 +0100
                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-24 16:14 +0000
                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:20 +0100
                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-24 21:56 -0700
                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:45 +0100
                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-25 09:08 +0100
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 19:55 +0100
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 09:18 +0100
                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 08:39 +0000
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 03:51 -0700
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 13:11 +0200
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 05:02 -0700
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-25 16:33 +0100
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:04 +0100
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 09:23 +0100
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:31 -0700
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 09:34 +0100
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 02:59 -0700
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 12:33 +0100
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:59 +0100
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:37 +0100
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 12:38 -0700
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 22:53 +0100
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:15 -0700
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-27 10:11 +0100
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 18:25 +0100
                                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-29 18:20 +0000
                                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-30 01:39 +0100
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2025-03-31 17:15 +0000
                                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-31 19:48 +0000
                                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-31 21:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 14:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-26 14:07 -0400
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 17:58 +0000
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-26 14:20 -0400
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 12:42 -0700
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 17:36 +0000
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-27 13:48 -0400
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-27 18:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-29 10:14 -0400
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-29 16:39 +0000
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-29 21:02 -0400
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 12:31 -0700
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-27 20:06 +0000
                                                      Newsgroup etiquette Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-28 11:03 -0700
                                                        Re: Newsgroup etiquette Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-28 18:39 +0000
                                                          Re: Newsgroup etiquette Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 18:45 +0000
                                                          Re: Newsgroup etiquette Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-27 12:28 -0700
                                                            Re: Newsgroup etiquette Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 14:40 -0700
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                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:58 +0100
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 19:09 +0200
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-25 17:34 +0000
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 19:49 +0000
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 12:53 -0700
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:39 -0700
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-07 00:04 -0800
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 13:23 -0700
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 09:50 +0100
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 16:22 +0000
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-25 18:18 +0000
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 19:55 +0100
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:41 -0700
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 23:35 +0100
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 16:38 -0700
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-25 19:55 -0400
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 10:00 +0100
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 16:01 +0200
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 14:45 +0000
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 17:16 +0200
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-26 08:55 -0700
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:45 +0100
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 17:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 17:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:40 +0100
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 17:25 +0000
                                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 21:27 +0100
                                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 20:34 +0000
                                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 13:50 -0700
                                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 21:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 14:12 -0700
                                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-26 21:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 23:22 +0200
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-26 14:38 -0400
                                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 18:52 +0000
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:32 +0100
                                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-26 22:29 +0000
                                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-26 14:31 -0400
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 21:33 +0100
                                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 15:42 +0000
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-25 19:52 -0400
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 17:16 -0700
                                  Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-25 04:55 -0700
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:48 -0700
                                    Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-25 21:52 +0000
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 22:36 +0000
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-25 23:14 +0000
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 10:09 +0100
                                      Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-03 20:03 -0700
                                        Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-04 14:04 +0200
                                          Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-04 15:43 +0100
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-04 18:39 +0200
                                              Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-04 19:02 +0100
                                                Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-05 11:29 +0200
                                            Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-15 23:02 -0700
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 14:50 +0000
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 16:59 +0200
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 15:16 +0000
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 17:29 +0200
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 15:55 +0000
                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 11:01 +0200
                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-23 12:56 -0700
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 11:47 -0700
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:28 -0700
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 15:40 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 15:57 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 20:46 +0200
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 19:15 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 19:58 +0000
                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 22:57 +0200
                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 21:10 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 16:10 -0700
                                  The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 16:59 +0100
                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 15:57 -0700
                                      Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-25 10:38 +0100
                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 16:31 +0000
                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-25 19:23 +0100
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:14 -0700
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 23:50 -0700
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 10:33 +0100
                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 19:18 +0100
                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 18:50 +0000
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 20:45 +0100
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 23:30 +0000
                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 14:59 +0100
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 11:29 +0100
                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:08 +0100
                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:50 +0100
                                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 19:09 +0100
                                                      Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 21:39 +0100
                                                      Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-26 23:21 +0000
                                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-26 23:51 +0000
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-27 00:32 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 13:51 +0000
                                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-27 01:10 +0000
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-27 01:33 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-27 10:54 +0100
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 14:09 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-28 17:49 +0000
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 14:07 +0000
                                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-27 03:24 +0100
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-27 11:14 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 14:14 +0000
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 02:05 +0100
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 10:13 +0100
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 11:22 +0100
                                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 14:32 +0300
                                                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 13:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 11:37 +0000
                                                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 13:53 +0100
                                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 13:00 +0100
                                                                    Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 14:06 +0100
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 10:05 -0700
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 12:19 +0000
                                                              [OT] PC hardware prices [correction] (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-31 21:35 +0200
                                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-27 15:04 +0100
                                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 02:59 +0100
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 19:03 -0700
                                                                [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 03:26 +0100
                                                                  Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 23:14 -0700
                                                                  Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 13:26 +0300
                                                                    Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 13:08 +0100
                                                                      Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 15:20 +0300
                                                                        Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 15:33 +0100
                                                                          Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 10:26 -0700
                                                                            Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 10:27 -0700
                                                                            Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 18:44 +0000
                                                                          Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 17:46 +0000
                                                                      Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 17:45 +0000
                                                                    Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 13:20 +0100
                                                                      Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 15:56 +0300
                                                                        Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 14:20 +0100
                                                                          Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 15:43 +0100
                                                                        Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-28 17:54 +0000
                                                                  Re: [OT] SPARC (was Re: The integral type 'byte') "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 10:16 -0700
                                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-28 11:03 +0100
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-28 14:01 +0300
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 11:29 +0000
                                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 12:46 +0100
                                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-28 12:30 +0100
                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 11:10 +0100
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-26 11:02 +0000
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 12:47 +0100
                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-26 13:12 +0000
                                                  Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 14:48 +0100
                                                Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:40 +0100
                                              Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 18:29 +0000
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:22 +0100
                                            Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 13:09 -0700
                                        Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 13:16 -0700
                                          Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 11:33 +0100
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:22 -0700
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:10 -0700
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 20:59 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 16:18 -0700
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-20 23:55 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-21 00:46 +0000
                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-21 01:23 +0000
                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 18:47 -0700
                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-21 11:53 +0000
                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 12:04 -0700
                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 00:23 +0000
                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 20:50 -0700
                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 13:06 +0000
                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 14:51 -0700
                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 14:52 -0700
                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-23 01:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 10:50 +0200
                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-23 11:25 +0000
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 14:12 +0200
                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-24 12:51 +0100
                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 14:07 +0000
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-24 15:32 +0100
                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-24 15:00 +0000
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-24 17:22 +0200
                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-24 16:12 +0000
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 16:02 +0000
                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-24 16:17 +0000
                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 16:49 +0000
                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-24 16:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 18:20 +0000
                                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 08:40 +0000
                                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 11:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 14:46 +0000
                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 15:04 +0000
                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 15:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 16:40 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-26 09:20 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-26 10:07 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 18:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-27 00:22 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-27 14:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-27 10:54 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-28 16:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 16:40 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-28 20:41 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 22:18 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 15:33 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-28 22:48 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 16:53 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-29 00:32 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-28 18:50 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-29 16:24 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-29 13:37 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-29 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-29 17:23 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-29 18:11 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-28 10:57 -0700
                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-25 16:16 +0000
                                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 13:29 +0200
                                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 14:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 17:14 +0200
                                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 16:37 +0000
                                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 19:00 +0200
                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-24 17:15 +0000
                                                                    Code-change-to-run times (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:44 +0100
                                                                      Re: Code-change-to-run times (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-24 23:06 +0200
                                                                        Re: Code-change-to-run times (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 23:44 +0100
                                                                          Re: Code-change-to-run times (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-25 13:00 +0200
                                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 21:16 +0000
                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 08:41 +0000
                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 11:04 +0000
                                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-25 14:43 +0000
                                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-25 13:51 +0000
                                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 14:22 +0000
                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-24 17:10 +0200
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-24 19:07 +0100
                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-24 15:44 +0000
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 11:27 -0700
                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-24 20:13 +0000
                                                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-24 23:01 +0200
                                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 11:17 +0000
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-24 15:42 +0000
                                                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 11:27 -0700
                                                    Compiler speed (ad nauseam) (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-24 18:01 +0100
                                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-24 19:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-25 00:53 +0000
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 19:00 -0700
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-24 21:50 -0700
                                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:19 +0100
                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-22 14:41 +0100
                                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 11:41 +0200
                                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 14:13 -0700
                                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 23:19 +0200
                                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-22 07:05 -0700
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-22 02:37 +0000
                                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 12:20 +0000
                                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-22 13:50 +0000
                                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 15:47 +0000
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 17:00 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 15:31 -0700
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-21 17:51 +0000
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-21 18:51 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 02:16 +0000
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-22 04:15 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-21 21:24 -0700
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-22 14:07 +0000
                                  Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 02:04 +0100
                                    Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-03-25 22:35 -0400
                                      Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 12:40 +0100
                                        Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 14:47 +0100
                                          Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-26 17:55 +0100
                                        Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-26 19:36 +0200
                                      Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-26 13:44 +0000
                                        Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 16:19 +0100
                                    Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-26 02:37 +0000
                                      Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-26 14:42 +0100
                                    Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-26 19:01 +0100
                                    Re: Fast division (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-26 18:49 +0000
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 00:01 +0000
                            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-03-22 01:41 +0000
                              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-22 14:22 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-22 14:32 +0000
                                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-22 16:25 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 16:35 +0200
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 14:42 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 16:20 +0000
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 11:33 -0700
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:07 -0700
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-19 12:59 -0700
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 22:12 +0200
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 05:19 -0700
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 20:26 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 00:42 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 04:51 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 01:02 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 05:23 +0000
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 06:06 -0700
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-20 13:27 +0000
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-20 16:50 +0200
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 11:24 -0700
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-20 18:53 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 16:56 -0700
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-22 16:46 -0700
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-23 08:25 +0000
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-23 12:06 +0200
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-23 10:15 +0000
                        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-23 12:35 -0700
                          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-24 13:09 +0100
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-03-22 19:07 +1100
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-22 13:25 +0000
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 19:12 +0200
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 19:17 +0200
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-22 17:22 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-22 10:29 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-03-25 21:41 +1100
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-22 14:30 +0000
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-22 11:31 -0400
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-22 19:19 +0200
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 14:54 -0700
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Ike Naar <ike@sdf.org> - 2025-03-19 07:16 +0000
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 01:53 -0700
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 16:45 -0400
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 21:21 +0000
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-19 21:35 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 14:56 -0700
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 22:34 -0400
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-19 19:46 -0700
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 11:25 -0400
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-19 10:15 +0000
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 12:40 +0200
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-19 17:42 +0100
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 09:03 -0400
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-19 14:40 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 17:39 +0200
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-19 15:42 +0000
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 15:05 +1100
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-22 10:19 +0000
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 11:05 +1100
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2025-03-23 16:22 +0000
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-19 13:13 -0700
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 09:50 +0000
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 04:59 -0700
              Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 16:14 +0000
                Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-20 16:29 +0000
                  Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-20 16:49 +0000
                    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-03-21 09:09 +0000
                      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-21 17:12 +0000
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-19 12:36 +0200
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-19 09:13 -0400
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-20 05:15 -0700
        Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-20 12:14 -0700
          Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-21 00:05 -0700
            Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-21 07:48 +0000
    Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 13:32 -0500
      Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2025-03-23 12:29 -0400

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#391356

FromMichael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-19 17:39 +0200
Message-ID<20250319173938.000055cb@yahoo.com>
In reply to#391352
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:40:38 -0000 (UTC)
Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote:

> 
> Reading wikipedia it looks like one of those dull problems
> mathematicians think up when they've got too much free time on their
> hands.
> 

Yeah, one of those dull problems that most of the times remain obscure,
but occasionally end up providing the rest of world with things like
public-key cryptography.

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#391357

FromMuttley@DastardlyHQ.org
Date2025-03-19 15:42 +0000
Message-ID<vreoke$15neg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391356
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 17:39:38 +0200
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> wibbled:
>On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:40:38 -0000 (UTC)
>Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote:
>
>> 
>> Reading wikipedia it looks like one of those dull problems
>> mathematicians think up when they've got too much free time on their
>> hands.
>> 
>
>Yeah, one of those dull problems that most of the times remain obscure,
>but occasionally end up providing the rest of world with things like
>public-key cryptography.

But 99.99% of the time doesn't.

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#391491

FromAlexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-22 15:05 +1100
Message-ID<87zfhd1zhk.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#391357
Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:

> But 99.99% of the time doesn't.

Famously, mathematician G.H. Hardy was a fan of number theory _because_
it seemed to have no 'real world' applications (i.e. applications
outside of mathematics itself). Eventually, of course, it became the
theoretical basis of public-key cryptography.

This is actually a common historical pattern - mathematics that doesn't
immediately appear to have any 'real world' applications eventually finds
such uses:

* Intuitionism's rejection of the Law of the Excluded Middle (LEM) and,
  consequently, Double-Negation Elimination (DNE) 
  initially seemed to be hobbling the practice of mathematics for no good
  reason[a]. But it turns out constructive reasoning is important in the
  context of computation and 'side-effects' (in the compsci sense of
  that phrase)[b].

* Why abandon Euclid's fifth postulate, that parallel lines never meet,
  and study the resulting non-Euclidean geometries? Well, Riemannian
  Geometry, first presented by Riemann in 1854, ended up allowing
  Einstein to develop the General Theory of Relativity ....

Here's an old Math Overflow post on 'real world' applications of
mathematics, by arXiv subject area:

  https://mathoverflow.net/questions/2556/real-world-applications-of-mathematics-by-arxiv-subject-area

(Which is much a coarser-grained classification scheme than the
Mathematical Subject Classification,
https://mathscinet.ams.org/mathscinet/msc/msc2020.html).

In fact, i would suggest that it's increasingly difficult to find
non-recent mathematics that _hasn't_ found direct or non-direct
'real world' applications.

i say "direct or non-direct", because even though proving or disproving
certain conjectures might not have any immediate impact[b], problems that
have been particularly resistant to proofs often require the development
of new mathematical approaches / techniques / knowledge that either find/s
'real world' uses, or support/s the development of mathematics which has
such uses.

Basic research is important, even in mathematics. We don't know what
'mere intellectual curiosities' of today will end up having
world-changing applications in the future.

All this is, of course, very much OT, so let me link to this old
tongue-in-cheek post of John Regehr, "C Compilers Disprove Fermat’s Last
Theorem":

  https://blog.regehr.org/archives/140

:-)


Alexis.


[a] Andrej Bauer has a post about how not having DNE still allows for "proof of
negation", even if not "proof by contradiction" stricto sensu:

  https://math.andrej.com/2010/03/29/proof-of-negation-and-proof-by-contradiction/

[b] Although cf.:

  https://queuea9.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/whats-so-nonconstructive-about-classical-logic/

[c] E.g. even if someone somehow successfully proved that P = NP, that
wouldn't _necessarily_ result in real-world consequences:

> Even in the remote eventuality that P=NP, essentially nobody actually
> thinks the algorithms will be practical. I mean, a polynomial
> algorithm for an NP problem that runs in time proportional to n^100 is
> not going to be helpful.
-- https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/behxgy/comment/el685q4/

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#391494

FromMuttley@DastardlyHQ.org
Date2025-03-22 10:19 +0000
Message-ID<vrm2r4$3nvhe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391491
On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:05:43 +1100
Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> wibbled:
>Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:
>
>> But 99.99% of the time doesn't.
>
>Famously, mathematician G.H. Hardy was a fan of number theory _because_
>it seemed to have no 'real world' applications (i.e. applications
>outside of mathematics itself). Eventually, of course, it became the
>theoretical basis of public-key cryptography.

Maths is the foundation of most technology, that doesn't mean all its 
problems are useful. I could ponder balancing wheels on top of each other
but that wouldn't lead to the invention of the car.

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#391532

FromAlexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-23 11:05 +1100
Message-ID<87pli8r4qe.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#391494
Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:

> On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 15:05:43 +1100
> Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> wibbled:
>>Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:
>>
>>> But 99.99% of the time doesn't.
>>
>>Famously, mathematician G.H. Hardy was a fan of number theory _because_
>>it seemed to have no 'real world' applications (i.e. applications
>>outside of mathematics itself). Eventually, of course, it became the
>>theoretical basis of public-key cryptography.
>
> Maths is the foundation of most technology, that doesn't mean all its 
> problems are useful. I could ponder balancing wheels on top of each other
> but that wouldn't lead to the invention of the car.

Well done - you read the first paragraph of my post. You might like to
now consider engaging with the rest of my post, in which i wrote in
part:

> This is actually a common historical pattern - mathematics that
> doesn't immediately appear to have any 'real world' applications
> eventually finds such uses
>
> [...]
>
> In fact, i would suggest that it's increasingly difficult to find
> non-recent mathematics that _hasn't_ found direct or non-direct 'real
> world' applications.
>
> i say "direct or non-direct", because even though proving or
> disproving certain conjectures might not have any immediate impact[b],
> problems that have been particularly resistant to proofs often require
> the development of new mathematical approaches / techniques /
> knowledge that either find/s 'real world' uses, or support/s the
> development of mathematics which has such uses.

i never _claimed_ the usefulness of _all_ mathematical problems (in the
sense of 'conjectures' / 'hypotheses', rather than e.g. the addition of
three large arbitrary numbers whose sum has never been calculated).
Indeed, i allowed for the possibility of 'useless' problems when i
wrote, as i quoted above,

> In fact, i would suggest that it's increasingly difficult to find
> non-recent mathematics that _hasn't_ found direct or non-direct
> 'real world' applications.

Note i didn't write: "it's _impossible_ to find".

Nevertheless, the fact that _there exists_ such mathematics ("balancing
wheels on top of each other") is a long way from "99.99%" of mathematics
being such mathematics. Claiming the latter is analogous to claiming
that the existence of black swans allows one to claim that 99.99% of
swans are black. And even if one's own experience is of only ever
encountering black swans (due to, say, living in Perth.au), that doesn't
mean it's inherently reflective of global swan numbers.

The history of developments in mathematics suggests that your "99.99%"
claim is significantly incorrect. (If you'd said, say, "9.99%", my
internal reaction would have been "Hm, i guess that might be the case.")

All that said, i've lurked long enough in this group to know that trying
to have a good-faith conversation with you is pointless; i was mainly
responding in order to address your claim for other readers. Just
because _you're_ not aware of the 'real world' applications that have
resulted from proving/disproving various mathematical conjectures,
doesn't mean they don't exist. And anyway, all this is OT, so i'm not
going to continue this subthread.


Alexis.

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#391542

FromMuttley@dastardlyhq.com
Date2025-03-23 16:22 +0000
Message-ID<vrpcfs$2nttv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391532
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 11:05:29 +1100
Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> gabbled:
>Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:
>> In fact, i would suggest that it's increasingly difficult to find
>> non-recent mathematics that _hasn't_ found direct or non-direct 'real
>> world' applications.

The one under discussion for a start.

>The history of developments in mathematics suggests that your "99.99%"
>claim is significantly incorrect. (If you'd said, say, "9.99%", my
>internal reaction would have been "Hm, i guess that might be the case.")

I'm guessing you don't know the difference between pure maths and applied
maths. The former is chock full of curiosities that one day may be useful
but so far their only use is keeping maths profs entertained.

>All that said, i've lurked long enough in this group to know that trying
>to have a good-faith conversation with you is pointless; i was mainly

Oh spare me. I'm tired of people who can't get a consensus around their
particular holy view throwing all their toys out their prams and claim trolling
or something similar.

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#391373

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-19 13:13 -0700
Message-ID<86frj8pyme.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391352
Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:

> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:03:33 -0400
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wibbled:
>
>> On 3/19/2025 6:15 AM, bart wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/03/2025 01:38, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm doing these algorithm problems at
>>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/list/
>>>>
>>>> For instance:  Weird Algorithm
>>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/task/1068
>>>
>>> This is related to the Collatz Conjecture.  What's weird is not
>>> mentioning it.
>>
>> I wouldn't have known it was a famous math conjecture, but no
>> doubt the author of the problem did.
>
> Reading wikipedia it looks like one of those dull problems
> mathematicians think up when they've got too much free time on
> their hands.

The 3n+1 problem, as it is sometimes called, is interesting
because it is easy to state and easy to understand, even without
any mathematical training beyond grade school, and yet has
resisted the efforts of many of the best mathematicians in the
world to try to prove it.  It seems like it should be easy, but
it is in fact incredibly difficult, based on almost 100 years of
experience.

If you try looking at it and see if you can make some sort of
dent in the problem you may find it more interesting than your
initial impression suggests.

Related problem:  consider a class of analogous problems, where
instead of 3n+1 we use 3n+k, for k positive and odd.  Question:
for which values of k does the 3n+k algorithm have multiple loops
rather than just one?

(I acknowledge the above posting to be off topic, and ask the
group for forgiveness for this transgression.)

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#391389

FromMuttley@DastardlyHQ.org
Date2025-03-20 09:50 +0000
Message-ID<vrgocp$2vjto$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391373
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:13:45 -0700
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wibbled:
>Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:
>
>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:03:33 -0400
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wibbled:
>>
>>> On 3/19/2025 6:15 AM, bart wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/03/2025 01:38, DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm doing these algorithm problems at
>>>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/list/
>>>>>
>>>>> For instance:  Weird Algorithm
>>>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/task/1068
>>>>
>>>> This is related to the Collatz Conjecture.  What's weird is not
>>>> mentioning it.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't have known it was a famous math conjecture, but no
>>> doubt the author of the problem did.
>>
>> Reading wikipedia it looks like one of those dull problems
>> mathematicians think up when they've got too much free time on
>> their hands.
>
>The 3n+1 problem, as it is sometimes called, is interesting
>because it is easy to state and easy to understand, even without
>any mathematical training beyond grade school, and yet has
>resisted the efforts of many of the best mathematicians in the
>world to try to prove it.  It seems like it should be easy, but
>it is in fact incredibly difficult, based on almost 100 years of
>experience.

I guess some maths problems can't be proven directly, they have to be - for 
want of a better word - run. A bit like the halting problem in CS.

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#391393

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-20 04:59 -0700
Message-ID<86v7s3oquo.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391389
Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:

> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 13:13:45 -0700
> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wibbled:
>
>> Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:03:33 -0400
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wibbled:
>>>
>>>> On 3/19/2025 6:15 AM, bart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/03/2025 01:38, DFS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm doing these algorithm problems at
>>>>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/list/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For instance:  Weird Algorithm
>>>>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/task/1068
>>>>>
>>>>> This is related to the Collatz Conjecture.  What's weird is not
>>>>> mentioning it.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't have known it was a famous math conjecture, but no
>>>> doubt the author of the problem did.
>>>
>>> Reading wikipedia it looks like one of those dull problems
>>> mathematicians think up when they've got too much free time on
>>> their hands.
>>
>> The 3n+1 problem, as it is sometimes called, is interesting
>> because it is easy to state and easy to understand, even without
>> any mathematical training beyond grade school, and yet has
>> resisted the efforts of many of the best mathematicians in the
>> world to try to prove it.  It seems like it should be easy, but
>> it is in fact incredibly difficult, based on almost 100 years of
>> experience.
>
> I guess some maths problems can't be proven directly, they have to
> be - for want of a better word - run.  A bit like the halting
> problem in CS.

Indeed it is the case that some statements are not provable, even
though they may still be true.  But the 3n+1 problem is unlikely to
be in that category;  it is just very hard to prove.

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#391419

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-03-20 16:14 +0000
Message-ID<20250320091227.39@kylheku.com>
In reply to#391389
On 2025-03-20, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
> I guess some maths problems can't be proven directly, they have to be - for 
> want of a better word - run. A bit like the halting problem in CS.

The halting problem is a perfect example of a problem which *cannot* be
proven by running anything.

-- 
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Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
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#391421

FromMuttley@DastardlyHQ.org
Date2025-03-20 16:29 +0000
Message-ID<vrhfpn$3k8ao$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391419
On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:14:54 -0000 (UTC)
Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wibbled:
>On 2025-03-20, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
>> I guess some maths problems can't be proven directly, they have to be - for 
>> want of a better word - run. A bit like the halting problem in CS.
>
>The halting problem is a perfect example of a problem which *cannot* be
>proven by running anything.

So if you run the program and it halts that doesn't prove that it will halt?
Umm, ok.

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#391423

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-03-20 16:49 +0000
Message-ID<20250320094214.107@kylheku.com>
In reply to#391421
On 2025-03-20, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:14:54 -0000 (UTC)
> Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wibbled:
>>On 2025-03-20, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
>>> I guess some maths problems can't be proven directly, they have to be - for 
>>> want of a better word - run. A bit like the halting problem in CS.
>>
>>The halting problem is a perfect example of a problem which *cannot* be
>>proven by running anything.
>
> So if you run the program and it halts that doesn't prove that it will halt?
> Umm, ok.

If you run a program and it has NOT halted so far, you don't know
whether or not it halts. If it doesn't halt, you will wait forever. To
figure that out, you have to resort to proof techniques, not just more
waiting.

Determining whether one program halts or not is not even the Halting
Problem. The Halting Problem consists of the question: is there an
algorithm which can decide, for any <P, I> (program, input) pairs from
the universe of all possible programs and inputs, whether P(I) halts.

The accepted result is that, no, there is no such decision algorithm.
In short, the halting question is called undecidable.

-- 
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Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
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#391469

FromMuttley@DastardlyHQ.org
Date2025-03-21 09:09 +0000
Message-ID<vrjabe$17qot$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391423
On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:49:10 -0000 (UTC)
Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wibbled:
>On 2025-03-20, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:14:54 -0000 (UTC)
>> Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wibbled:
>>>On 2025-03-20, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
>>>> I guess some maths problems can't be proven directly, they have to be -
>for 
>>>> want of a better word - run. A bit like the halting problem in CS.
>>>
>>>The halting problem is a perfect example of a problem which *cannot* be
>>>proven by running anything.
>>
>> So if you run the program and it halts that doesn't prove that it will halt?
>> Umm, ok.
>
>If you run a program and it has NOT halted so far, you don't know
>whether or not it halts. If it doesn't halt, you will wait forever. To

True, but you said it cannot be proven. What you meant was it cannot *always*
be proven to halt.

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#391475

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-03-21 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<20250321095755.499@kylheku.com>
In reply to#391469
On 2025-03-21, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:49:10 -0000 (UTC)
> Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wibbled:
>>On 2025-03-20, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 16:14:54 -0000 (UTC)
>>> Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wibbled:
>>>>On 2025-03-20, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org <Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org> wrote:
>>>>> I guess some maths problems can't be proven directly, they have to be -
>>for 
>>>>> want of a better word - run. A bit like the halting problem in CS.
>>>>
>>>>The halting problem is a perfect example of a problem which *cannot* be
>>>>proven by running anything.
>>>
>>> So if you run the program and it halts that doesn't prove that it will halt?
>>> Umm, ok.
>>
>>If you run a program and it has NOT halted so far, you don't know
>>whether or not it halts. If it doesn't halt, you will wait forever. To
>
> True, but you said it cannot be proven. What you meant was it cannot *always*
> be proven to halt.

Running a program can only prove those programs which terminate
within a time period you're willing to wait. For all others, this
approach produces no answer: it remains undecided.

You don't seem to know what is the Halting Problem in CS; it is
the informal name for the question whether there exists an
algorithm which can prove that any program operating on any
input (i.e. any Turing computation) will halt or not.

The question "will this small C program halt, which obviously contains
no loops or recursion, so we know that it does" is not an instance of
the Halting Problem.  (It is one input case in the Halting Problem,
among an infinity of cases.)

Running programs is not a decision procedure that solves the Halting
Problem.

-- 
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#391341

FromMichael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-19 12:36 +0200
Message-ID<20250319123647.000035ed@yahoo.com>
In reply to#391319
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:38:55 -0400
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> I'm doing these algorithm problems at
> https://cses.fi/problemset/list/
> 
> For instance: Weird Algorithm
> https://cses.fi/problemset/task/1068
> 

It is not an interesting programming exercise. But it looks to me as a
challenging math exercise. I mean, how could we give a not too
pessimistic estimate for upper bound of length of the sequence that
starts at given n without running a full sequence? Or estimate for
maximal value in the sequence?
So far, I found no answers.

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#391349

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2025-03-19 09:13 -0400
Message-ID<vreft7$s307$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391341
On 3/19/2025 6:36 AM, Michael S wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:38:55 -0400
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm doing these algorithm problems at
>> https://cses.fi/problemset/list/
>>
>> For instance: Weird Algorithm
>> https://cses.fi/problemset/task/1068
>>
> 
> It is not an interesting programming exercise. 

The early problems are easy.  I plan on doing (or giving a good shot at) 
all 300.


> But it looks to me as a
> challenging math exercise. I mean, how could we give a not too
> pessimistic estimate for upper bound of length of the sequence that
> starts at given n without running a full sequence? Or estimate for
> maximal value in the sequence?
> So far, I found no answers.


If you do find a proof, you'll get a blue ribbon and a free dinner (and 
your own Wikipedia entry).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture

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#391395

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-20 05:15 -0700
Message-ID<86msdfoq3b.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391341
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:38:55 -0400
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm doing these algorithm problems at
>> https://cses.fi/problemset/list/
>>
>> For instance:  Weird Algorithm
>> https://cses.fi/problemset/task/1068
>
> It is not an interesting programming exercise.  But it looks to me as a
> challenging math exercise.  I mean, how could we give a not too
> pessimistic estimate for upper bound of length of the sequence that
> starts at given n without running a full sequence?  Or estimate for
> maximal value in the sequence?
> So far, I found no answers.

You may console yourself with the knowledge that no one else
has either, even some of the most brilliant mathematicians
of the last hundred years.  In fact it isn't even known that
all starting points eventually terminate;  as far as what has
been proven goes, some starting points might just keep going
up forever.

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#391434

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-20 12:14 -0700
Message-ID<87zfhfsedy.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#391395
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:38:55 -0400
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> I'm doing these algorithm problems at
>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/list/
>>>
>>> For instance:  Weird Algorithm
>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/task/1068
>>
>> It is not an interesting programming exercise.  But it looks to me as a
>> challenging math exercise.  I mean, how could we give a not too
>> pessimistic estimate for upper bound of length of the sequence that
>> starts at given n without running a full sequence?  Or estimate for
>> maximal value in the sequence?
>> So far, I found no answers.
>
> You may console yourself with the knowledge that no one else
> has either, even some of the most brilliant mathematicians
> of the last hundred years.  In fact it isn't even known that
> all starting points eventually terminate;  as far as what has
> been proven goes, some starting points might just keep going
> up forever.

I think someone has mentioned that this is called the Collatz
Conjecture.  According to Wikipedia, it's been shown to hold for all
positive integers up to 2.95e20 (which is just under 2**68).

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#391466

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-21 00:05 -0700
Message-ID<86bjtun9sx.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391434
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>
>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:38:55 -0400
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm doing these algorithm problems at
>>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/list/
>>>>
>>>> For instance:  Weird Algorithm
>>>> https://cses.fi/problemset/task/1068
>>>
>>> It is not an interesting programming exercise.  But it looks to me
>>> as a challenging math exercise.  I mean, how could we give a not
>>> too pessimistic estimate for upper bound of length of the sequence
>>> that starts at given n without running a full sequence?  Or
>>> estimate for maximal value in the sequence?  So far, I found no
>>> answers.
>>
>> You may console yourself with the knowledge that no one else
>> has either, even some of the most brilliant mathematicians
>> of the last hundred years.  In fact it isn't even known that
>> all starting points eventually terminate;  as far as what has
>> been proven goes, some starting points might just keep going
>> up forever.
>
> I think someone has mentioned that this is called the Collatz
> Conjecture.  According to Wikipedia, it's been shown to hold for
> all positive integers up to 2.95e20 (which is just under 2**68).

Yes it is sometimes called the Collatz Conjecture, and sometimes
called the 3n+1 problem, and also is known by several other names.
I first heard the problem in the early 1980s (at that time it was
known as the (3n+1)/2 problem), and worked on it on and off for ten
years or so.  I would be astonished if anyone disproved it.

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#391468

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-21 07:48 +0000
Message-ID<vrj5kd$13fbs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391466
On 21/03/2025 07:05, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> I would be astonished if anyone disproved it.

If anyone does, my money's on Noam Elkies.

<https://blog.computationalcomplexity.org/2003/04/counterexample-to-fermats-last-theorem.html>


-- 
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Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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