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Experimental C Build System

Started bybart <bc@freeuk.com>
First post2024-01-29 16:03 +0000
Last post2024-02-12 02:18 +0000
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  Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-29 16:03 +0000
    Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-30 00:57 +0000
      Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-29 17:38 -0800
        Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-30 09:06 +0100
          Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 15:23 -0800
            Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 08:36 +0100
              Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 19:12 -0800
          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 00:44 +0000
      Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 01:45 +0000
        Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 04:46 +0000
          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 11:52 +0000
            Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 16:50 +0000
              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 17:57 +0000
              Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-01-30 19:22 +0000
                Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-01-31 16:41 +0000
                  Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-01-31 19:01 +0000
                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 20:25 +0000
                    Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 09:39 +0100
                      Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 11:31 +0000
                        Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 16:11 +0100
                          Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 17:33 +0000
                          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 18:34 +0000
                            Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-01 22:23 +0200
                              Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 20:55 +0000
                                Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 13:10 -0800
                              Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 22:38 +0100
                                Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 00:55 +0200
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:31 +0000
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 02:08 +0000
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 09:02 +0100
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 15:28 +0200
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 15:49 +0100
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 16:53 +0200
                                          Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-02 16:29 +0000
                                            Re: Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 17:29 +0000
                                              Re: Stu Feldman (Was: Experimental C Build System) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:44 +0100
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 13:47 +0000
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 15:57 +0100
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 15:18 +0000
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 17:44 +0000
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 18:26 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 05:45 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-03 21:24 +0000
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:19 +0100
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:42 +0000
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 22:12 +0000
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:29 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 12:02 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:25 -0800
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:47 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 19:52 -0800
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 19:58 -0800
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 05:52 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-03 14:52 +0100
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 14:59 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 11:08 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:44 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 16:03 +0000
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:02 +0000
                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:29 +0100
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:31 -0800
                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 22:11 +0000
                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 16:24 -0800
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 01:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:51 -0800
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-04 14:07 +1100
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:01 -0800
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 04:56 +0000
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 21:36 -0800
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 21:41 -0800
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:44 +0100
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 15:50 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:27 +0100
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:52 -0800
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2024-02-05 17:57 +0100
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 09:17 -0800
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 19:11 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:29 -0800
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 06:43 +0000
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:51 -0800
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-03 21:15 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 21:39 +0000
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:23 +0100
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:48 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 14:16 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 18:17 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 20:12 +0000
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-02-04 16:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:08 -0800
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-04 18:22 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 13:53 +0100
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 14:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:36 +0100
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 22:46 +0000
                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 23:29 +0000
                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 15:32 -0800
                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-02-05 17:37 +0000
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 18:03 +0000
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 18:42 +0000
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:25 -0800
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 21:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:40 -0800
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 22:29 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:39 -0800
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 22:47 +0000
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-06 00:03 +0000
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 19:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 00:07 +0000
                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 16:10 -0800
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 10:41 -0600
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-05 18:13 +0000
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-06 23:41 -0600
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 09:56 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 11:10 +0000
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-02-07 11:13 +0000
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:50 +0000
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 11:05 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-07 23:46 +1100
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 15:09 +0100
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-07 14:21 +0000
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 10:11 -0600
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:46 +0000
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 21:53 +0100
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 14:54 +0000
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 16:15 +0000
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-07 17:34 +0000
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System [Ben] olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 22:50 -0600
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 09:40 +0000
                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 11:55 +0000
                                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 12:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 16:35 +0100
                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 16:31 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 21:24 +0100
                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-08 16:50 +0000
                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2024-02-08 17:04 +0000
                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-08 17:10 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 17:25 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 23:30 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-08 17:38 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-08 21:30 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 00:58 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 01:14 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-09 01:18 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 01:27 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 01:30 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 10:32 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 13:16 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 02:07 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 15:49 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 17:13 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 18:24 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 10:34 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 18:42 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 20:41 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 21:56 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 23:12 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 23:47 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 00:28 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 15:41 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 23:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 00:16 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 16:33 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 02:26 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-10 02:47 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 20:17 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-10 21:02 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 20:09 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-10 19:51 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-09 18:25 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 20:55 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:06 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-09 13:15 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-09 22:09 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-10 15:24 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:04 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-09 09:21 +0100
                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 17:15 +0000
                                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 23:29 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-07 19:24 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:44 +0000
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:30 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 10:12 -0600
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 08:40 -0800
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-07 12:24 -0600
                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 01:45 +0000
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:17 -0800
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:41 -0800
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:46 -0800
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-05 06:48 -0800
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 11:20 -0800
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:33 -0800
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-05 21:57 +0000
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 23:20 +0000
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:41 -0800
                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-06 01:48 +0000
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-06 00:18 +0000
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-02-05 06:00 +0000
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 22:46 -0800
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:57 -0800
                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-05 13:02 +0100
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:50 +0000
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 22:51 +0000
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 23:18 +0000
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 00:16 +0000
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 14:32 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 14:40 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 16:59 +0000
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 19:20 +0000
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-06 20:32 +0000
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 20:34 +0000
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-06 20:49 +0000
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-06 13:07 -0800
                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 21:39 +0000
                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-02-07 15:02 +0000
                                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 20:36 +0000
                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 20:48 +0000
                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 21:15 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 23:15 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 23:58 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-08 01:33 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 01:34 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-08 01:50 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 02:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 22:48 +0100
                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 23:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 21:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-06 21:43 +0000
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-08 17:23 -0800
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 00:51 +0100
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-07 02:18 +0000
                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 04:21 +0100
                                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-07 07:17 +0000
                                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-07 12:59 +0100
                                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-07 23:53 +1100
                                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-07 15:45 +0200
                                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-08 12:56 +1100
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-08 17:22 -0800
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-06 00:07 +0000
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 10:08 +0100
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 11:44 +0000
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-09 21:03 +0000
                            Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 22:34 +0100
                              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 22:29 +0000
                                Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:28 -0800
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 01:03 +0000
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 17:42 -0800
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 02:43 +0000
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 19:03 -0800
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 10:54 +0100
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:16 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 16:09 -0800
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:32 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 02:36 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 00:53 -0800
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 13:51 -0800
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-02-03 17:56 -0500
                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-04 07:52 -0800
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-04 06:18 -0800
                                Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-02 03:22 +0100
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 11:13 +0000
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2024-02-03 00:25 +1100
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 13:29 +0000
                                Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 10:47 +0100
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 15:45 +0200
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 16:26 +0100
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:39 +0100
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-03 16:26 +0100
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 17:11 +0100
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-06 13:59 +0200
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 13:14 +0100
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-06 14:32 +0200
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-06 14:16 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-06 17:02 +0100
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-06 20:31 +0000
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 14:14 +0000
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-02 16:43 +0200
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 15:18 +0000
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-02 20:43 +0100
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 20:16 +0000
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 16:31 +0100
                                      Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 17:00 +0000
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 17:31 +0000
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 10:36 -0800
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 19:52 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-02 20:21 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 21:09 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 13:15 -0800
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:13 +0100
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:23 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 21:51 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-03 01:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 12:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 17:59 +0000
                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 19:35 +0000
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-02-03 21:57 +0100
                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 18:48 +0100
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 20:18 +0000
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-04 20:55 +0000
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-07 02:57 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-07 03:18 +0000
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 15:27 +0000
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 15:48 +0000
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-07 16:30 +0000
                                                                        Re: Experimental C Build System vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-08 00:39 +0000
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 21:59 +0100
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 09:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-07 10:40 +0000
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-07 15:37 +0100
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-04 22:51 +0100
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 23:11 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-05 13:42 +0100
                                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:59 +0100
                                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-05 15:45 +0000
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 11:25 -0800
                                                                      Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-05 22:46 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 14:43 +0000
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-04 22:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:53 -0800
                                                          Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 14:02 -0800
                                                            Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 10:48 -0600
                                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 17:29 +0000
                                                                Re: Experimental C Build System candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> - 2024-02-05 11:36 -0600
                                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:04 -0800
                                        Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 18:54 +0000
                                          Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 06:04 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 22:13 -0800
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 06:43 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 00:02 -0800
                                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 08:47 +0000
                                            Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-03 06:30 +0000
                                              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 11:17 +0000
                                                Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 14:02 -0800
                                      [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:04 +0100
                                        Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 07:19 -0800
                                          Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:29 +0100
                                            Re: [meta] Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 05:37 +0000
                                    Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-02 16:26 +0000
                              Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:30 +0000
                                Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 11:05 +0100
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-02 21:18 +0000
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-04 15:50 +0000
                              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 00:26 +0000
                                Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 00:35 +0000
                                Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-02 11:13 +0100
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-02 10:54 +0000
                                  Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-02 14:15 +0000
                              Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-02 01:46 +0100
                      Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-01 16:20 +0000
                      Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 21:34 +0000
                    Re: Experimental C Build System Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-02-01 16:09 +0000
                      Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 17:32 +0000
                        Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 19:25 +0000
                          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 19:51 +0000
                            Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 12:12 -0800
                              Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 12:43 -0800
                            Re: Experimental C Build System Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-02-01 22:36 +0200
                      Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 23:09 +0100
                        Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:32 +0000
                  Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 21:17 +0000
                    Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 09:48 +0100
                      Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 11:49 -0800
                        Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 21:39 +0000
                          Re: Experimental C Build System Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:24 -0800
                            Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:38 +0000
                              Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-01 23:53 +0000
                        Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 23:14 +0100
        Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-30 09:17 +0100
          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-30 12:09 +0000
          Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 15:25 -0800
            Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-30 17:50 -0800
          Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 03:14 +0000
            Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 20:38 -0800
          Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 13:46 +0000
          Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 14:06 +0000
            Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-05 14:48 +0000
              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-05 15:23 +0000
    Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-30 16:46 -0800
      Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 03:13 +0000
        Re: Experimental C Build System Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-31 03:23 +0000
          Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 08:47 +0100
            Re: Experimental C Build System Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2024-01-31 11:02 +0000
              Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-31 15:31 +0100
                Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-31 15:13 +0000
                  Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 23:00 +0000
                    Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 00:29 +0000
                      Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 03:07 +0000
                        Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 15:00 +0000
                          Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-01 23:40 +0000
                    system(3) (was: Re: Experimental C Build System) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-01 08:15 +0000
                Re: Experimental C Build System Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-31 23:02 +0000
                  Re: Experimental C Build System scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-01 00:33 +0000
                    Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 15:11 +0100
                Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 14:55 +0100
              Re: Experimental C Build System Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-02-01 14:42 +0100
        Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 12:19 +0000
      Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-01 14:29 +0000
        Re: Experimental C Build System David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-02-01 16:43 +0100
        Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 01:05 -0800
          Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 11:54 +0000
            Re: Experimental C Build System Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-02-03 07:17 -0800
              Re: Experimental C Build System Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 15:54 +0000
              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 16:05 +0000
            Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-03 12:39 -0800
              Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-03 22:19 +0000
                Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:56 -0800
                Re: Experimental C Build System "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-02-04 20:57 -0800
    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-31 20:36 +0000
    Re: Experimental C Build System thiago <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 20:36 +0000
      Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-08 13:50 +0000
    Re: Experimental C Build System thiago <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-07 20:42 +0000
    Re: Experimental C Build System bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-12 02:18 +0000

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FromKaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com>
Date2024-02-02 16:26 +0000
Message-ID<20240202082352.941@kylheku.com>
In reply to#381602
On 2024-02-02, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
> disciplined. Mine doesn't have the equivalent of .h files for example.

My musical instrument has frets for easy intonation, you silly violin
people, in your silly violin newsgroup.

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#381539

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-02-01 23:30 +0000
Message-ID<uph9i5$2916e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381521
On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 22:34:36 +0100, David Brown wrote:

> I am, however, considering CMake (which works at a 
> higher level, and outputs makefiles, ninja files or other project 
> files).

Ninja was created as an alternative to Make. Basically, if your Makefiles 
are going to be generated by a meta-build system like CMake or Meson, then 
they don’t need to support the kinds of niceties that facilitate writing 
them by hand. So you strip it write down to the bare-bones functionality, 
which makes your builds fast while consuming minimal resources, and that 
is Ninja.

> It appears to have some disadvantages compared to my makefiles, 
> such as needed to be run as an extra step when files are added or 
> removed to a project or dependencies are changed, but that doesn't 
> happen too often, and it's integration with other tools and projects 
> might make it an overall win.

Some are proposing Meson as an alternative to CMake. I think they are 
saying that the fact that its scripting language is not fully Turing-
equivalent is an advantage.

Me, while I think the CMake language can be a little clunky in places, I 
still think having Turing-equivalence is better than not having it. ;)

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#381587

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2024-02-02 11:05 +0100
Message-ID<upiep2$2i741$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381539
On 02/02/2024 00:30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 22:34:36 +0100, David Brown wrote:
> 
>> I am, however, considering CMake (which works at a
>> higher level, and outputs makefiles, ninja files or other project
>> files).
> 
> Ninja was created as an alternative to Make.

It is an alternative to some uses of make - but by no means all uses.

> Basically, if your Makefiles
> are going to be generated by a meta-build system like CMake or Meson, then
> they don’t need to support the kinds of niceties that facilitate writing
> them by hand. So you strip it write down to the bare-bones functionality,
> which makes your builds fast while consuming minimal resources, and that
> is Ninja.

Yes.

It is not normal to write ninja files by hand - the syntax is relatively 
simple, but quite limited.  So it covers the lower level bits of "make", 
but not the higher level bits.


Perhaps ninja is the tool that Bart is looking for?  For the kinds of 
things he is doing, I don't think it would be hard to write the ninja 
files by hand.



So it won't work for my needs, as I want to work at a higher level 
(without manually detailing file lists and dependencies).

But if I find that CMake supports all I need at that level, then I 
expect I could just as easily generate ninja files as makefiles.  The 
only issue that I know of is that ninja does not have full jobserver 
support, which could be important if the build involves other parallel 
tasks (like gcc LTO linking).

> 
>> It appears to have some disadvantages compared to my makefiles,
>> such as needed to be run as an extra step when files are added or
>> removed to a project or dependencies are changed, but that doesn't
>> happen too often, and it's integration with other tools and projects
>> might make it an overall win.
> 
> Some are proposing Meson as an alternative to CMake. I think they are
> saying that the fact that its scripting language is not fully Turing-
> equivalent is an advantage.
> 
> Me, while I think the CMake language can be a little clunky in places, I
> still think having Turing-equivalence is better than not having it. ;)

For many reasons, CMake is the prime candidate as an alternative to make 
for my use.

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#381635

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-02-02 21:18 +0000
Message-ID<upjm77$2oup9$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381587
On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 11:05:22 +0100, David Brown wrote:

> On 02/02/2024 00:30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Ninja was created as an alternative to Make.
> 
> It is an alternative to some uses of make - but by no means all uses.

It gets rid of the overlap when you have a meta-build system generating 
the lowest-level build control files (Makefiles).

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#381743

Frombart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2024-02-04 15:50 +0000
Message-ID<upobog$3n6np$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381587
On 02/02/2024 10:05, David Brown wrote:
 > On 02/02/2024 00:30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
 >> On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 22:34:36 +0100, David Brown wrote:
 >>
 >>> I am, however, considering CMake (which works at a
 >>> higher level, and outputs makefiles, ninja files or other project
 >>> files).
 >>
 >> Ninja was created as an alternative to Make.
 >
 > It is an alternative to some uses of make - but by no means all uses.
 >
 >> Basically, if your Makefiles
 >> are going to be generated by a meta-build system like CMake or 
Meson, then
 >> they don’t need to support the kinds of niceties that facilitate writing
 >> them by hand. So you strip it write down to the bare-bones 
functionality,
 >> which makes your builds fast while consuming minimal resources, and that
 >> is Ninja.
 >
 > Yes.
 >
 > It is not normal to write ninja files by hand - the syntax is 
relatively simple, but quite limited.  So it covers the lower level bits 
of "make", but not the higher level bits.
 >
 >
 > Perhaps ninja is the tool that Bart is looking for?  For the kinds of 
things he is doing, I don't think it would be hard to write the ninja 
files by hand.

I've had a look. It doesn't look much simpler to me. But even if it was 
(in that I could trivially extract the necessary info), open source 
projects would need to use it.

This is from its manual:

"Ninja is yet another build system. It takes as input the 
interdependencies of files (typically source code and output 
executables) and orchestrates building them, quickly.

Ninja joins a sea of other build systems. Its distinguishing goal is to 
be fast. It is born from my work on the Chromium browser project, which 
has over 30,000 source files  ... "

The projects I'm into are 100 to 1000 times smaller than that.

(On my machine, the binaries for Chrome are 20 files totalling 320MB. 
But 230MB of that is in one giant DLL file. I wouldn't have taken that 
approach. There are ways to split it up into more discrete binaries, and 
yet still present one monolithic DLL.

BTW that 230MB DLL exports these 6 functions:

    0 00CF1480 13571200  Fun ChromeMain
    1 06DBE4B0 115074224 Fun CrashForExceptionInNonABICompliantCodeRange
    2 02423320 37892896  Fun GetHandleVerifier
    3 031AB2F0 52081392  Fun IsSandboxedProcess
    4 0240DCD0 37805264  Fun RelaunchChromeBrowserWithNewCommandLineIfNeeded
    5 08EF8C40 149916736 Fun sqlite3_dbdata_init
)

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#381550

FromMalcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-02 00:26 +0000
Message-ID<uphcr2$29n3n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381521
On 01/02/2024 21:34, David Brown wrote:
> 
>> It works for me, and I'm sure could work for others if they didn't 
>> have makefiles forced down their throats and hardwired into their brains.
> 
> /Nobody/ has makefiles forced on them.  People use "make" because it is 
> convenient, and it works.  If something better comes along, and it is 
> better enough to overcome the familiarity momentum, people will use that.
>
What?
You have total control of your programming environment and never have to 
consider anybody else? For hobby programming you do in a way. Not if you 
want other people to use your stuff. But can always say that fun of 
doing things exactly your way outweighs the fun of getting downloads.

But for professional or academic programming, often you'll find you have 
to use make. You don't have a choice. Either someone else took the 
decision, or there are so many other people who expect that build shall 
be via make that you have no real alternative.

Now in one study, someone had wanted to do a survey of genetic sequence 
analysis software. They reported no results for half the programs, 
because they had attempted to build them, and failed. They didn't say, 
but it's a fair bet that most of those build systems used make. The 
software distribution system is a disaster and badly needs fixing.

But there are lots of caveats. Bart's system might be better, but it as 
you say it needs traction. I'd be reluctant to evangelise for it and get 
everyone to use it at work, because it might prove to have major 
drawbacks, and then I'd get the blame. Which I wouldn't if I wrote a 
makefile which broke. Not in the same way. And of course one person 
can't rigorously test and debug, and buid an ecosystem of ancilliary 
tools, dcumentation, resoruces, help meesage boards. However a lot of 
things start small, with one lone programmer beavering away in his 
bedroom. It's necessary to look at the positives, and not strangle 
things at birth.

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#381551

Frombart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2024-02-02 00:35 +0000
Message-ID<uphdcb$29ng8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381550
On 02/02/2024 00:26, Malcolm McLean wrote:
> On 01/02/2024 21:34, David Brown wrote:
>>
>>> It works for me, and I'm sure could work for others if they didn't 
>>> have makefiles forced down their throats and hardwired into their 
>>> brains.
>>
>> /Nobody/ has makefiles forced on them.  People use "make" because it 
>> is convenient, and it works.  If something better comes along, and it 
>> is better enough to overcome the familiarity momentum, people will use 
>> that.
>>
> What?
> You have total control of your programming environment and never have to 
> consider anybody else? For hobby programming you do in a way. Not if you 
> want other people to use your stuff. But can always say that fun of 
> doing things exactly your way outweighs the fun of getting downloads.
> 
> But for professional or academic programming, often you'll find you have 
> to use make. You don't have a choice. Either someone else took the 
> decision, or there are so many other people who expect that build shall 
> be via make that you have no real alternative.
> 
> Now in one study, someone had wanted to do a survey of genetic sequence 
> analysis software. They reported no results for half the programs, 
> because they had attempted to build them, and failed. They didn't say, 
> but it's a fair bet that most of those build systems used make. The 
> software distribution system is a disaster and badly needs fixing.
> 
> But there are lots of caveats. Bart's system might be better, but it as 
> you say it needs traction. I'd be reluctant to evangelise for it and get 
> everyone to use it at work, because it might prove to have major 
> drawbacks, and then I'd get the blame.

There's a lite, flexible version of it, which doesn't interfere with any 
existing uses of 'make'.

That is to also provide a simple list the C files somewhere, in a 
comment, or text files. Plus any other notes needed to build the project 
(written in English or Norwegian, I don't care; Norwegian will be decode 
to understand than a typical makefile).

This is exactly what you did with the resource compiler, specifying the 
three lots of *.c files needed to build it; no makefiles or CMake needed 
(which failed if you remember).

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#381588

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2024-02-02 11:13 +0100
Message-ID<upif8m$2i741$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381550
On 02/02/2024 01:26, Malcolm McLean wrote:
> On 01/02/2024 21:34, David Brown wrote:
>>
>>> It works for me, and I'm sure could work for others if they didn't 
>>> have makefiles forced down their throats and hardwired into their 
>>> brains.
>>
>> /Nobody/ has makefiles forced on them.  People use "make" because it 
>> is convenient, and it works.  If something better comes along, and it 
>> is better enough to overcome the familiarity momentum, people will use 
>> that.
>>
> What?
> You have total control of your programming environment and never have to 
> consider anybody else? For hobby programming you do in a way. Not if you 
> want other people to use your stuff. But can always say that fun of 
> doing things exactly your way outweighs the fun of getting downloads.
> 

Okay, none of the people talking about "make" /here/ had it forced on 
them for the uses they are talking about /here/.

Yes, I have a very large degree of control over my programming 
environment - because I work in a company where employees get to make 
the decisions that they are best qualified to make, and management's job 
is to support them.  One of the important factors I consider is 
interaction with colleagues and customers, for which "make" works well.

And while people may be required to use make, or particular compilers, 
or OS's, no one is forced to /like/ a tool or find it useful.  I believe 
that when people here say they like make, or find it works well for 
them, or that it can handle lots of different needs, or that they know 
of nothing better for their requirements, they are being honest about 
that.  If they didn't like it, they would say.

The only person here whom we can be absolutely sure does /not/ have 
"make" forced upon them for their development, is Bart.  And he is the 
one who complains about it.

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#381589

Frombart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2024-02-02 10:54 +0000
Message-ID<upihku$2ii1u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381588
On 02/02/2024 10:13, David Brown wrote:
> On 02/02/2024 01:26, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>> On 01/02/2024 21:34, David Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> It works for me, and I'm sure could work for others if they didn't 
>>>> have makefiles forced down their throats and hardwired into their 
>>>> brains.
>>>
>>> /Nobody/ has makefiles forced on them.  People use "make" because it 
>>> is convenient, and it works.  If something better comes along, and it 
>>> is better enough to overcome the familiarity momentum, people will 
>>> use that.
>>>
>> What?
>> You have total control of your programming environment and never have 
>> to consider anybody else? For hobby programming you do in a way. Not 
>> if you want other people to use your stuff. But can always say that 
>> fun of doing things exactly your way outweighs the fun of getting 
>> downloads.
>>
> 
> Okay, none of the people talking about "make" /here/ had it forced on 
> them for the uses they are talking about /here/.
> 
> Yes, I have a very large degree of control over my programming 
> environment - because I work in a company where employees get to make 
> the decisions that they are best qualified to make, and management's job 
> is to support them.  One of the important factors I consider is 
> interaction with colleagues and customers, for which "make" works well.
> 
> And while people may be required to use make, or particular compilers, 
> or OS's, no one is forced to /like/ a tool or find it useful.  I believe 
> that when people here say they like make, or find it works well for 
> them, or that it can handle lots of different needs, or that they know 
> of nothing better for their requirements, they are being honest about 
> that.  If they didn't like it, they would say.
> 
> The only person here whom we can be absolutely sure does /not/ have 
> "make" forced upon them for their development, is Bart.  And he is the 
> one who complains about it.
> 

Not for my own development, no. Unless that includes having to build 
external dependenceies from source, which are written in C.

Or just things I want to test my C compiler on.

If I want to build Seed7, for example, that comes with 19 different 
makefiles. LibJPEG has 15 different makefiles. GMP has one makefiles, 
but a 30,000-line configure script dependent on Linux.

I could and have spent a lot of time on many of those in manually 
discovering the C files necessary to building the project.

Once done, the process was beautifully streamlined and simple.

But I know this a waste of time and nobody's mind is going to be changed.

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#381603

FromMalcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-02 14:15 +0000
Message-ID<upitec$2knd2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381588
On 02/02/2024 10:13, David Brown wrote:
> On 02/02/2024 01:26, Malcolm McLean wrote:
>> On 01/02/2024 21:34, David Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> It works for me, and I'm sure could work for others if they didn't 
>>>> have makefiles forced down their throats and hardwired into their 
>>>> brains.
>>>
>>> /Nobody/ has makefiles forced on them.  People use "make" because it 
>>> is convenient, and it works.  If something better comes along, and it 
>>> is better enough to overcome the familiarity momentum, people will 
>>> use that.
>>>
>> What?
>> You have total control of your programming environment and never have 
>> to consider anybody else? For hobby programming you do in a way. Not 
>> if you want other people to use your stuff. But can always say that 
>> fun of doing things exactly your way outweighs the fun of getting 
>> downloads.
>>
> 
> Okay, none of the people talking about "make" /here/ had it forced on 
> them for the uses they are talking about /here/.
> 
> Yes, I have a very large degree of control over my programming 
> environment - because I work in a company where employees get to make 
> the decisions that they are best qualified to make, and management's job 
> is to support them.  One of the important factors I consider is 
> interaction with colleagues and customers, for which "make" works well.
> 
> And while people may be required to use make, or particular compilers, 
> or OS's, no one is forced to /like/ a tool or find it useful.  I believe 
> that when people here say they like make, or find it works well for 
> them, or that it can handle lots of different needs, or that they know 
> of nothing better for their requirements, they are being honest about 
> that.  If they didn't like it, they would say.
> 
> The only person here whom we can be absolutely sure does /not/ have 
> "make" forced upon them for their development, is Bart.  And he is the 
> one who complains about it.
> My job is to write the algorithms. Not to set uo the build system. 
Someone else was given that job and set up the system I described 
recently, with git and conan and Azure. He didn't do a bad job at all 
and we can get a bug fix out to customers within hours on request. My 
input is just to moan when occasionally things go wrong. Had I done it 
I'm sure it would have been a lot worse, because basically my skills are 
in algorithm development, not setting things up like that.

It's makefile free, thank goodness. My main peeve is boost. When things 
go wrong, it always seems to be the boost. I've refused to include it in 
my library, despite requests. Whilst it would be nice to have the 
threads, I just think it would be a perpetual source of build failures 
and grief. That's from experience of boost in other projects. I might 
ultimately have to give in. I don't have total control, at the  end of 
the day, it's not my personal code, it's company code.

Because I'm constantly shifting between platforms, make isn't veey 
useful to me. And because mainly I do algorithms, the guts of it are 
simple source files with no dependencies other than the standard 
libraries. So you don't need elaborates systems for pulling things in. 
It's just submit a list of sources to the compiler. And you don't need 
make to do that. So I don't use make much, for reasons other than that I 
don't particularly like it. CMake is a sort of front end to make, which 
says it all really. But CMake can also spin uo an IDE project file. And 
if you are developing rather than just building, that's far more 
convenient. So I distribute using CMake in preference to make. But if 
someone won't accept CMake, then I'd have no hesitation, and drop down 
to make.

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#381552

FromJanis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com>
Date2024-02-02 01:46 +0100
Message-ID<uphe1d$29s9g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381521
On 01.02.2024 22:34, David Brown wrote:
> 
> I've nothing against shorter or simpler makefiles.  [...]

During mid/late 1990's someone at our site looked for an alternative
to Make. After some evaluation of tools it was decided to not replace
Make. I've just googled for what at that time appeared to be the most
promising candidate (it's obviously still there) and the description
of Jam reads as it would fulfill some of the requirements that have
been mentioned by various people here (see https://freetype.org/jam/
for details).

Janis

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#381491

FromKaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com>
Date2024-02-01 16:20 +0000
Message-ID<20240201081857.753@kylheku.com>
In reply to#381443
On 2024-02-01, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> 5. Modules provide encapsulation of data, code and namespaces.

Case study: C++ originally had only classes which provie this. Then it
acquired the namespace construct which also provides it.. In spite of
that, someone decided it needs modules also.

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#381520

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-02-01 21:34 +0000
Message-ID<uph2p7$27uq1$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381443
On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 09:39:15 +0100, David Brown wrote:

> 2. You can compile modules independently to allow partial builds.

In our Comp Sci classes we were careful to draw a distinction between 
“separate” and “independent” compilation. The latter is exemplified by 
(old-style) Fortran and C, where the same name may be declared in multiple 
units, and the linker will happily tie them together, but without any 
actual checking that the declarations match.

“Separate” compilation, on the other hand, means that there is some 
consistency checking done between the declarations, and the program will 
fail to build if there are mismatches. Ada has this. And it looks like 
Fortran has acquired it, too, since the Fortran 90 spec.

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#381488

FromRichard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid>
Date2024-02-01 16:09 +0000
Message-ID<upgfog$24m0s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381403
On 31/01/2024 20:25, bart wrote:
> BTW that 'make' only works on my machine because it happens to be part 
> of mingw; none of my other C compilers have make.
> 
> And as written, it only works for 'cc' which comes with 'gcc'

Doesn't dos/windows have nmake and cl?

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#381497

Frombart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2024-02-01 17:32 +0000
Message-ID<upgkij$25lpj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381488
On 01/02/2024 16:09, Richard Harnden wrote:
> On 31/01/2024 20:25, bart wrote:
>> BTW that 'make' only works on my machine because it happens to be part 
>> of mingw; none of my other C compilers have make.
>>
>> And as written, it only works for 'cc' which comes with 'gcc'
> 
> Doesn't dos/windows have nmake and cl?

No.

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#381502

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2024-02-01 19:25 +0000
Message-ID<seSuN.420645$83n7.76941@fx18.iad>
In reply to#381497
bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>On 01/02/2024 16:09, Richard Harnden wrote:
>> On 31/01/2024 20:25, bart wrote:
>>> BTW that 'make' only works on my machine because it happens to be part 
>>> of mingw; none of my other C compilers have make.
>>>
>>> And as written, it only works for 'cc' which comes with 'gcc'
>> 
>> Doesn't dos/windows have nmake and cl?
>
>No.

You sure about that?  They sure used to have them
as an add-on.  IIRC, they're still part of visual studio.

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#381506

Frombart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2024-02-01 19:51 +0000
Message-ID<upgsoq$274ph$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381502
On 01/02/2024 19:25, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>> On 01/02/2024 16:09, Richard Harnden wrote:
>>> On 31/01/2024 20:25, bart wrote:
>>>> BTW that 'make' only works on my machine because it happens to be part
>>>> of mingw; none of my other C compilers have make.
>>>>
>>>> And as written, it only works for 'cc' which comes with 'gcc'
>>>
>>> Doesn't dos/windows have nmake and cl?
>>
>> No.
> 
> You sure about that?  They sure used to have them
> as an add-on.  IIRC, they're still part of visual studio.

Visual Studio is a 10,000MB monster. It might well have it around, but 
it's so complex, it's been years since I've even seen discrete cl.exe 
and link.exe programs, despite scouring massive, 11-deep directory 
structures.

Meanwhile my everyday compilers are 0.4MB for my language and 0.3MB for C.

I like to keep things simple. Everybody else likes to keep things 
complicated, and the more the better.

Anyway, acquiring VS just to build one small program would be like just 
a giant sledgehammer, 1000 times normal size, to crack a tiny nut.

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#381509

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-01 12:12 -0800
Message-ID<upgu0a$278rd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381506
On 2/1/2024 11:51 AM, bart wrote:
> On 01/02/2024 19:25, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>> On 01/02/2024 16:09, Richard Harnden wrote:
>>>> On 31/01/2024 20:25, bart wrote:
>>>>> BTW that 'make' only works on my machine because it happens to be part
>>>>> of mingw; none of my other C compilers have make.
>>>>>
>>>>> And as written, it only works for 'cc' which comes with 'gcc'
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't dos/windows have nmake and cl?
>>>
>>> No.
>>
>> You sure about that?  They sure used to have them
>> as an add-on.  IIRC, they're still part of visual studio.
> 
> Visual Studio is a 10,000MB monster. 

Shit happens. I still use MSVC, quite a lot actually. I install 
everything! ;^) Have the space, so, well, okay. ;^)



> It might well have it around, but 
> it's so complex, it's been years since I've even seen discrete cl.exe 
> and link.exe programs, despite scouring massive, 11-deep directory 
> structures.
> 
> Meanwhile my everyday compilers are 0.4MB for my language and 0.3MB for C.
> 
> I like to keep things simple. Everybody else likes to keep things 
> complicated, and the more the better.
> 
> Anyway, acquiring VS just to build one small program would be like just 
> a giant sledgehammer, 1000 times normal size, to crack a tiny nut.

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#381514

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2024-02-01 12:43 -0800
Message-ID<upgvq7$27kba$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#381509
On 2/1/2024 12:12 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 2/1/2024 11:51 AM, bart wrote:
>> On 01/02/2024 19:25, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>>> On 01/02/2024 16:09, Richard Harnden wrote:
>>>>> On 31/01/2024 20:25, bart wrote:
>>>>>> BTW that 'make' only works on my machine because it happens to be 
>>>>>> part
>>>>>> of mingw; none of my other C compilers have make.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And as written, it only works for 'cc' which comes with 'gcc'
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't dos/windows have nmake and cl?
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>
>>> You sure about that?  They sure used to have them
>>> as an add-on.  IIRC, they're still part of visual studio.
>>
>> Visual Studio is a 10,000MB monster. 
> 
> Shit happens. I still use MSVC, quite a lot actually. I install 
> everything! ;^) Have the space, so, well, okay. ;^)

The fat bastard wants me to update to version (17.8.6). I currently have 
(17.8.5):

:^)

https://youtu.be/t2mU6USTBRE?t=94

Ham On! LOL! ;^)




> 
> 
> 
>> It might well have it around, but it's so complex, it's been years 
>> since I've even seen discrete cl.exe and link.exe programs, despite 
>> scouring massive, 11-deep directory structures.
>>
>> Meanwhile my everyday compilers are 0.4MB for my language and 0.3MB 
>> for C.
>>
>> I like to keep things simple. Everybody else likes to keep things 
>> complicated, and the more the better.
>>
>> Anyway, acquiring VS just to build one small program would be like 
>> just a giant sledgehammer, 1000 times normal size, to crack a tiny nut.
> 

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#381513

FromMichael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Date2024-02-01 22:36 +0200
Message-ID<20240201223647.00002006@yahoo.com>
In reply to#381506
On Thu, 1 Feb 2024 19:51:53 +0000
bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

> On 01/02/2024 19:25, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:  
> >> On 01/02/2024 16:09, Richard Harnden wrote:  
> >>> On 31/01/2024 20:25, bart wrote:  
> >>>> BTW that 'make' only works on my machine because it happens to
> >>>> be part of mingw; none of my other C compilers have make.
> >>>>
> >>>> And as written, it only works for 'cc' which comes with 'gcc'  
> >>>
> >>> Doesn't dos/windows have nmake and cl?  
> >>
> >> No.  
> > 
> > You sure about that?  They sure used to have them
> > as an add-on.  IIRC, they're still part of visual studio.  
> 
> Visual Studio is a 10,000MB monster. It might well have it around,
> but it's so complex, it's been years since I've even seen discrete
> cl.exe and link.exe programs, despite scouring massive, 11-deep
> directory structures.
>

If you only download command-line build tools then it's somewhat less
huge.
2022 version is 3,152,365,436 bytes.
I don't know the size of installation package. It looks like on my home
PC I used online installer.

> Meanwhile my everyday compilers are 0.4MB for my language and 0.3MB
> for C.
> 
> I like to keep things simple. Everybody else likes to keep things 
> complicated, and the more the better.
> 
> Anyway, acquiring VS just to build one small program would be like
> just a giant sledgehammer, 1000 times normal size, to crack a tiny
> nut.

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