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Which code style do you prefer the most?

Started byAr Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org>
First post2025-02-25 21:15 +0600
Last post2025-03-18 13:59 +0100
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  Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-25 21:15 +0600
    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2025-02-25 15:23 +0000
      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-25 21:34 +0600
        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 16:17 +0000
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-25 22:50 +0600
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-25 22:51 +0100
        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-25 17:28 +0100
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-25 22:52 +0600
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-25 20:35 +0100
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-25 23:02 +0100
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-26 09:41 +0100
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-26 13:25 +0100
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-26 17:43 +0600
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-26 13:39 +0100
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:03 +0000
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 05:58 +0100
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 22:11 +0600
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-26 15:37 +0100
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-02-26 14:39 +0000
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-26 17:32 +0100
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-26 16:47 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-26 20:45 +0100
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-09 12:18 -0700
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-09 22:30 +0100
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-10 13:21 -0700
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-26 18:13 +0100
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-26 20:56 +0100
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 06:57 +0100
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-27 16:47 +0100
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-02-28 00:29 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 14:44 +0200
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:14 +0000
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-02 13:17 -0800
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-03 14:13 +0200
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-03 12:29 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-03 13:33 +0000
                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-03 13:57 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:16 +0000
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-03 10:49 -0800
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-03 15:25 +0000
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-03 10:34 -0800
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 15:23 -0800
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 03:17 +0000
                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-04 06:12 +0100
                                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 05:39 +0000
                                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 03:42 -0800
                                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 15:55 +0000
                                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:49 +0000
                                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-04 22:15 +0000
                                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 05:09 +0100
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 04:24 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-21 02:41 -0700
                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-21 14:06 +0000
                                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-21 14:08 +0000
                                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-22 06:49 -0700
                                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-22 14:32 +0000
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-22 12:45 -0700
                                          Re: 80 char lines and holerith cards [Was:Which code style do you prefer the most?] Jakob Bohm <egenagwemdimtapsar@jbohm.dk> - 2025-04-01 05:46 +0200
                                            Re: 80 char lines and holerith cards [Was:Which code style do you prefer the most?] Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-01 09:46 +0200
                                            Re: 80 char lines and holerith cards [Was:Which code style do you prefer the most?] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-01 13:52 +0000
                                              Re: 80 char lines and holerith cards [Was:Which code style do you prefer the most?] Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-01 19:11 +0200
                                                Re: 80 char lines and holerith cards [Was:Which code style do you prefer the most?] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-01 17:20 +0000
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-28 10:00 +0100
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-28 12:54 +0100
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-02-28 12:21 +0000
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-28 16:44 +0100
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:10 +0000
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-02-28 23:32 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-02-28 23:49 +0000
                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 16:15 -0800
                                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-01 01:02 +0000
                                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-01 17:30 +0100
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:55 +0000
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-01 07:07 +0100
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 22:04 +0600
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-27 21:10 +0100
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:04 +0000
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 07:06 +0100
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 06:17 +0000
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 09:38 +0100
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 09:15 +0000
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-28 08:50 +0100
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-02-28 08:55 +0000
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-28 10:21 +0100
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-02-28 10:19 +0000
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-28 14:26 +0100
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-02-28 14:22 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 16:34 +0200
                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:09 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-28 21:55 +0600
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-02-28 10:47 -0800
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-02-28 18:53 +0000
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:08 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-01 17:32 +0100
                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-01 21:32 +0100
                                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 22:20 +0000
                                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-01 23:43 +0100
                                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 17:24 -0800
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 02:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 20:46 -0800
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-01 21:29 -0800
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 06:46 +0100
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 06:48 +0100
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-02 11:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 12:17 -0800
                                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 22:13 +0000
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-02 12:52 +0100
                                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-02 13:42 +0000
                                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-02 19:04 +0100
                                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-02 16:32 +0000
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 17:50 +0100
                                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-02 18:28 +0000
                                                      [OT] Pascal identifiers [digression] (was Re: Which code style do you prefer the most?) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 23:00 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Pascal identifiers [digression] (was Re: Which code style do you prefer the most?) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 14:49 -0800
                                                          Re: [OT] Pascal identifiers [digression] (was Re: Which code style do you prefer the most?) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 02:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-02 22:07 +0000
                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-03-01 21:41 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-02 05:52 -0800
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-02 14:21 +0000
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-03 17:03 -0800
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-25 22:59 +0100
      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 15:43 +0000
    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? John McCue <jmccue@reddwf.jmcunx.com> - 2025-02-25 18:36 +0000
      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-26 00:39 +0600
      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-02-25 18:51 +0000
        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 19:33 +0000
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-02-25 20:40 +0000
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-25 21:09 +0000
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-25 23:10 +0100
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-02-26 09:21 +0000
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-26 13:58 +0100
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-26 17:53 +0600
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-26 14:06 +0100
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-26 15:58 +0100
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-26 16:26 +0000
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-26 17:47 +0100
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? John McCue <jmccue@whitedwf.jmcunx.com> - 2025-02-26 19:32 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-26 19:50 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:22 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 07:34 +0100
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 08:06 +0000
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 09:47 +0100
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 09:16 +0000
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-26 21:09 +0100
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 07:59 +0100
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-26 21:01 +0100
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-26 22:13 +0000
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-02 00:49 -0800
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-26 17:32 +0100
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 13:31 -0800
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:10 +0000
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 19:05 +0600
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-27 17:23 +0100
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 23:17 +0600
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-02 06:00 -0800
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-02 16:20 +0200
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 15:53 +0100
        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-02-25 20:21 +0000
        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-26 17:51 +0600
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-02-26 17:59 +0000
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-26 18:59 +0000
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 08:14 +0100
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-02 00:21 -0800
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-02 13:21 +0100
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 19:02 +0600
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-28 10:32 +0100
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-28 18:54 +0600
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 01:08 +0000
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 18:59 +0600
      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-02 06:22 -0800
    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:46 +0100
      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-26 17:54 +0600
    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-25 22:47 +0100
    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-25 22:48 +0000
      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-26 17:59 +0600
        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-26 14:26 +0100
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-26 21:44 +0000
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-02-26 23:17 +0000
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 18:56 +0600
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-02-27 14:13 +0000
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 21:12 +0600
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-27 17:26 +0100
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 23:17 +0600
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-28 02:40 +0000
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-02-28 04:29 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-28 10:21 +0100
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-28 17:30 +0000
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-02-28 18:39 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 15:30 +0200
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-28 18:59 +0600
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 13:24 -0800
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-28 10:22 +0100
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-02-28 10:24 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-28 13:03 +0100
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-02 09:35 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-28 14:19 +0200
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-01 21:30 -0800
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-02 09:29 +0000
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-03 02:17 +0000
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-03 02:46 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-03 03:28 +0000
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-11 22:11 -0700
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-12 06:52 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-12 11:12 +0200
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-12 09:23 +0000
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-13 00:06 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-15 09:26 -0700
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-15 18:23 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:15 +0000
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-02-28 22:15 +0000
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 22:38 +0000
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-02-28 23:21 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 02:56 +0000
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-01 06:17 +0000
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 20:25 +0000
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-01 21:03 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-01 22:21 +0000
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-02-27 14:16 +0000
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-02-27 14:21 +0000
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 21:13 +0600
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-27 17:33 +0100
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-02-27 17:27 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-02-27 21:14 +0100
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 23:24 +0000
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-28 22:12 +0600
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-28 21:25 +0000
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-02-27 14:18 +0000
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> - 2025-02-27 21:11 +0600
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-01 21:56 -0800
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-27 08:45 +0100
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-27 08:08 +0000
    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-02 04:01 -0800
    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2025-03-04 17:56 +0300
      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-04 15:18 +0000
        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-04 16:01 +0000
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-04 18:14 +0000
            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-04 21:49 +0000
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-04 22:17 +0000
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-04 22:26 +0000
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-04 22:40 +0000
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:45 +0000
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 05:46 +0100
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-05 07:02 +0000
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 09:35 +0100
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-05 08:39 +0000
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 09:58 +0100
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-05 19:12 +0000
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 21:53 +0100
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-06 01:22 +0000
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 02:34 +0000
                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2025-03-05 15:22 +0300
                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-05 14:44 +0100
                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-05 14:20 +0000
                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2025-03-05 18:30 +0300
                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-05 16:40 +0000
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 18:09 +0100
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-05 17:32 +0000
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-05 17:51 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 19:50 +0100
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2025-03-05 19:09 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-05 19:18 +0000
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-05 20:07 +0000
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 21:46 +0100
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-05 14:58 -0800
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-06 10:35 +0100
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-06 10:29 +0100
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:49 +0000
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-03-06 17:52 +0000
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-06 18:05 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-06 21:14 +0000
                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-07 15:37 +0100
                                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-07 12:17 -0800
                                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-08 16:47 +0100
                                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-12 22:20 +0000
                                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-03-12 15:23 -0700
                                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-13 00:12 +0000
                                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-13 09:30 +0100
                                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-13 09:44 +0000
                                                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-03-13 16:19 +0200
                                                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-13 16:20 +0100
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-03-06 20:36 +0100
                                      Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? G <g@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-03-07 09:28 +0000
                                        Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-07 21:16 +0000
                                    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-06 20:49 +0000
                          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-05 22:02 +0000
                            Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-03-05 23:46 +0000
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-06 00:46 +0000
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-06 10:53 +0100
                              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-03-06 14:48 +0000
                                Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-03-06 21:18 +0000
                                  Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-07 08:10 +0100
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-04 23:36 +0000
              Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-03-09 11:41 -0700
          Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-05 05:21 +0100
    Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 13:59 +0100

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#390680

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-03-03 03:28 +0000
Message-ID<20250302192348.210@kylheku.com>
In reply to#390678
On 2025-03-03, Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
> On 03/03/2025 02:17, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 09:29:37 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> 
>>> ... change does not necessarily imply progress.
>> 
>> Tell that to those of us who actually find a use for the new features.
>
> Why?

Someone claiming to be Lawrence D'Oliveiro of New Zealand has a
LinkedIn profile which reveals he was employed only in the years 1986 to
1997, in a "user support" role, at a university that somehow bestowed
upon him a master's degree in CS in 1984.

-- 
TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr
Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
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#391073

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-11 22:11 -0700
Message-ID<86cyemu931.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#390632
Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:

> On 28/02/2025 12:19, Michael S wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:24:19 +0000
>> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/02/2025 09:22, David Brown wrote:
>>>
>>>> As long as it's not "Long time no C" :-)
>>>
>>> I'm afraid it is.  Nowadays I spend most of my time arguing with
>>> \LaTeX, although when I do cut code it is in C (and that's proper
>>> C, of course, not this newfangled gibberish).
>>
>> one man's newfangled gibberish is another man's proper C
>
> Agreed.  On the other hand, it is easy to overlook the virtue of
> stability, and change does not necessarily imply progress.

C is quite stable in the sense that in most cases C90 code is
acceptable under C99 or C11 rules.  I think there are four kinds
of differences that someone might want to avoid.

One, some C90 features were removed from C99.  The obvious
examples are implicit 'int' type and implicit function
declaration.

Two, some constructs are allowed in both C90 and C99 but have
different semantics, or possibly different semantics.  One
example is what precision is used in expressions evaluated in the
C preprocessor.  Another example is integer division, which is
well-defined in C99 but only implementation-defined in C90.

Three, in some cases code that is legal in C90 is not legal in
C99 (and not because features are just removed as in case one).
The most obvious examples involve the use of new keywords such as
'inline' and 'restrict' as ordinary identifiers.

Four, use of constructs that are newly allowed in C99 and are
(obviously) legal under C99 rules but would cause diagnostics
under C90 rules.  An example is allowing a trailing comma in
definitions of 'enum' types.  If someone were to want non-C90
code (even only certain non-C90 constructs) to be given a
diagnostic then obviously using C99 or later would prevent that.

Are any of these cases ones that you find objectionable or would
cause difficulty for code that you work on?  If so which ones?
My question here is meant to ask about specifics, not just
general categories.  And to be clear, I don't mean to limit the
set of potential problems being considered to just the examples
given above.

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#391076

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-12 06:52 +0000
Message-ID<vqravh$2frof$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391073
On 12/03/2025 05:11, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> Are any of these cases ones that you find objectionable

In my capacity as grumpy old git? All of them, of course.

For sound practical reasons? No, of course not.

But the importance of grump should not be under-estimated.

> or would
> cause difficulty for code that you work on?  If so which ones?
> My question here is meant to ask about specifics, not just
> general categories.  And to be clear, I don't mean to limit the
> set of potential problems being considered to just the examples
> given above.

I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that there is merit in 
having a small, well-defined, well-known language that doesn't 
keep buzzing around. People who want bells and whistles can 
undoubtedly find them in other languages, so why insist on 
dragging them into C as well when they're so rarely a good fit, 
like trying to split an infinitive... in Latin?

So no, Tim; it's not for specific technical reasons, but more for 
the sake of having one widely-known language that really is a 
lingua franca and valuable for that very reason.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#391083

FromMichael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Date2025-03-12 11:12 +0200
Message-ID<20250312111251.00007b12@yahoo.com>
In reply to#391076
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 06:52:33 +0000
Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

> On 12/03/2025 05:11, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> > Are any of these cases ones that you find objectionable  
> 
> In my capacity as grumpy old git? All of them, of course.
> 

Even in your capacity as grumpy old git you can be more concrete.

> For sound practical reasons? No, of course not.
> 
> But the importance of grump should not be under-estimated.
> 
> > or would
> > cause difficulty for code that you work on?  If so which ones?
> > My question here is meant to ask about specifics, not just
> > general categories.  And to be clear, I don't mean to limit the
> > set of potential problems being considered to just the examples
> > given above.  
> 
> I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that there is merit in 
> having a small, well-defined, well-known language that doesn't 
> keep buzzing around. People who want bells and whistles can 
> undoubtedly find them in other languages, so why insist on 
> dragging them into C as well when they're so rarely a good fit, 
> like trying to split an infinitive... in Latin?
> 
> So no, Tim; it's not for specific technical reasons, but more for 
> the sake of having one widely-known language that really is a 
> lingua franca and valuable for that very reason.
> 

So far it looks like hand waving.

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#391085

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-12 09:23 +0000
Message-ID<vqrjpu$2frof$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391083
On 12/03/2025 09:12, Michael S wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 06:52:33 +0000
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/03/2025 05:11, Tim Rentsch wrote:
>>> Are any of these cases ones that you find objectionable
>>
>> In my capacity as grumpy old git? All of them, of course.
>>
> 
> Even in your capacity as grumpy old git you can be more concrete.
> 
>> For sound practical reasons? No, of course not.
>>
>> But the importance of grump should not be under-estimated.
>>
>>> or would
>>> cause difficulty for code that you work on?  If so which ones?
>>> My question here is meant to ask about specifics, not just
>>> general categories.  And to be clear, I don't mean to limit the
>>> set of potential problems being considered to just the examples
>>> given above.
>>
>> I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that there is merit in
>> having a small, well-defined, well-known language that doesn't
>> keep buzzing around. People who want bells and whistles can
>> undoubtedly find them in other languages, so why insist on
>> dragging them into C as well when they're so rarely a good fit,
>> like trying to split an infinitive... in Latin?
>>
>> So no, Tim; it's not for specific technical reasons, but more for
>> the sake of having one widely-known language that really is a
>> lingua franca and valuable for that very reason.
>>
> 
> So far it looks like hand waving.

Of course. And so do the (to me, spurious) reasons offered for 
changing the language in the first place. If those reasons have 
convinced you, you're not going to be convinced back by a 
rigorous analysis, so why bother? Besides, the ship has obviously 
sailed, and all that remains to me is my opinion... oh, and my 
-ansi -pedantic flags.

I'll bet that even to this day there are some grumpy old gits out 
there decrying Fortran 90 and insisting that FORTRAN 77 is far 
superior...

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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#391112

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-03-13 00:06 +0000
Message-ID<vqt7hb$2se4a$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391085
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:23:10 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:

> I'll bet that even to this day there are some grumpy old gits out there
> decrying Fortran 90 and insisting that FORTRAN 77 is far superior...

Fortran 77 didn’t have DO ... END DO.

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#391243

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-03-15 09:26 -0700
Message-ID<86ldt6qmz9.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#391076
Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> writes:

> On 12/03/2025 05:11, Tim Rentsch wrote:
>
>> Are any of these cases ones that you find objectionable
>
> In my capacity as grumpy old git?  All of them, of course.
>
> For sound practical reasons?  No, of course not.
>
> But the importance of grump should not be under-estimated.
>
>> or would
>> cause difficulty for code that you work on?  If so which ones?
>> My question here is meant to ask about specifics, not just
>> general categories.  And to be clear, I don't mean to limit the
>> set of potential problems being considered to just the examples
>> given above.
>
> I suppose what I'm trying to get at is that there is merit in having
> a small, well-defined, well-known language that doesn't keep buzzing
> around. [...]

C99 is a small, well-defined, well-known language that doesn't keep
buzzing around.  C99 hasn't changed in more than a quarter of a
century.

> So no, Tim;  it's not for specific technical reasons, but more for
> the sake of having one widely-known language that really is a lingua
> franca and valuable for that very reason.

These days it is C99 that is more common than C90, just as today's
"lingua franca" is English rather than French.

So it looks like the grump factor is the only factor actually taking
part in the decision here.

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#391249

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-15 18:23 +0000
Message-ID<vr4gj4$21sj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#391243
On 15/03/2025 16:26, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> So it looks like the grump factor is the only factor actually taking
> part in the decision here.

Works for me. ;-)

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#390580

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-02-28 21:15 +0000
Message-ID<vpt923$3r2n0$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390551
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:24:19 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:

> ... (and that's proper C, of course, not this newfangled gibberish).

Do you think it was a bad idea when struct field names went from 
inhabiting a single common name space to each struct having their own?

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#390583

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-02-28 22:15 +0000
Message-ID<vptci3$3rord$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390580
On 28/02/2025 21:15, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:24:19 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> 
>> ... (and that's proper C, of course, not this newfangled gibberish).
> 
> Do you think it was a bad idea when struct field names went from
> inhabiting a single common name space to each struct having their own?

I like my porridge not too hot and not too cold, but just right. 
C90 porridge tastes just fine to me.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#390584

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-02-28 22:38 +0000
Message-ID<vptdtl$3s11n$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390583
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:15:31 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:

> C90 porridge tastes just fine to me.

Come on, C99 at least. Declare-anywhere-before-use, stdbool, better IEEE 
754 support ... and don’t forget the wonderful “#include <iso646.h>”!

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#390587

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-02-28 23:21 +0000
Message-ID<vptgeb$3skv2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390584
On 28/02/2025 22:38, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:15:31 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> 
>> C90 porridge tastes just fine to me.
> 
> Come on, C99 at least.

Back porch preacher preaching at me
Acting like he wrote the golden rule
Shaking his fist and speeching at me
Shouting from his soap box like a fool

Clean up your own backyard
Oh don't you hand me none of your lines
Clean up your own backyard
You tend to your business, I'll tend to mine.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
The King is dead. Long live the King.

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#390594

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-03-01 02:56 +0000
Message-ID<vptt10$3ud2o$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390587
On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 23:21:47 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:

> On 28/02/2025 22:38, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:15:31 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> 
>>> C90 porridge tastes just fine to me.
>> 
>> Come on, C99 at least.
> 
> Clean up your own backyard ...

Been there, done that. I practise what I preach.

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#390597

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-01 06:17 +0000
Message-ID<vpu8pl$3qcu$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390594
On 01/03/2025 02:56, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 23:21:47 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> 
>> On 28/02/2025 22:38, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:15:31 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>
>>>> C90 porridge tastes just fine to me.
>>>
>>> Come on, C99 at least.
>>
>> Clean up your own backyard ...
> 
> Been there, done that. I practise what I preach.

<whoosh!>

You tend to your business, I'll tend to mine.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#390610

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-03-01 20:25 +0000
Message-ID<vpvqfl$cd2j$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390597
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 06:17:25 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:

> You tend to your business, I'll tend to mine.

Next time, be more careful about using phrases like “newfangled gibberish” 
in public.

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#390612

FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-01 21:03 +0000
Message-ID<vpvsmu$ct0e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390610
On 01/03/2025 20:25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 06:17:25 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> 
>> You tend to your business, I'll tend to mine.
> 
> Next time, be more careful about using phrases like “newfangled gibberish”
> in public.

I hope you're not implying I used the phrase carelessly.

I predict a confrontational reply, to which I will do the group 
the courtesy of not responding. Fill your boots.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#390616

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2025-03-01 22:21 +0000
Message-ID<vq018o$dkuj$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390612
On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 21:03:26 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:

> On 01/03/2025 20:25, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 06:17:25 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> 
>>> You tend to your business, I'll tend to mine.
>> 
>> Next time, be more careful about using phrases like “newfangled
>> gibberish” in public.
> 
> I hope you're not implying I used the phrase carelessly.

That became apparent during the discussion.

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#390511

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2025-02-27 14:16 +0000
Message-ID<kt_vP.469630$P31.272683@fx48.iad>
In reply to#390506
Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> writes:
>bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>
>> // isn't devoid of quirks (this is still C after all), for example:
>>
>>    fopen(file,"rb");   // open file in \windows\system32\
>>    fread(...);
>>
>> Here, the // line continues onto the next, so that the fread is
>> commented out. But they are fewer.
>
>Interesting. Isn't this considered a compiler bug?

No, it is standard C line continuation behavior remaining from
the days of punched cards.  More useful for strings
and invented prior to the invention of unterminated comments (//).

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#390513

FromLew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca>
Date2025-02-27 14:21 +0000
Message-ID<vppsdh$34i06$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390511
On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 14:16:48 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> writes:
>>bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>
>>> // isn't devoid of quirks (this is still C after all), for example:
>>>
>>>    fopen(file,"rb");   // open file in \windows\system32\
>>>    fread(...);
>>>
>>> Here, the // line continues onto the next, so that the fread is
>>> commented out. But they are fewer.
>>
>>Interesting. Isn't this considered a compiler bug?
> 
> No, it is standard C line continuation behavior remaining from
> the days of punched cards

and (source code) files with fixed-length records.

> . More useful for strings

and multi-line macros

> and invented prior to the invention of unterminated comments (//).




-- 
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"

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#390516

FromAr Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org>
Date2025-02-27 21:13 +0600
Message-ID<vppvep$35gb9$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#390511
On 2/27/25 8:16 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Ar Rakin <rakinar2@onesoftnet.eu.org> writes:
>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>
>>> // isn't devoid of quirks (this is still C after all), for example:
>>>
>>>     fopen(file,"rb");   // open file in \windows\system32\
>>>     fread(...);
>>>
>>> Here, the // line continues onto the next, so that the fread is
>>> commented out. But they are fewer.
>>
>> Interesting. Isn't this considered a compiler bug?
> 
> No, it is standard C line continuation behavior remaining from
> the days of punched cards.  More useful for strings
> and invented prior to the invention of unterminated comments (//).
> 

Understood.

Even though I have been writing C code for around four years now, I 
still learn new things about this *simple* language every day.

-- 
Rakin

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