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| From | Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods |
| Date | 2020-10-14 23:37 +0000 |
| Organization | Some absurd concept |
| Message-ID | <eli$2010141937@qaz.wtf> (permalink) |
| References | <WhugH.334023$Av7.244451@fx34.iad> <rlvkb2$dbd$1@dont-email.me> <slrnroemmf.1hpq.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> <rm7oq5$grv$1@dont-email.me> |
In comp.lang.c, James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote: > On 10/14/20 4:08 PM, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >> On Sun, 2020-10-11, James Kuyper wrote: >>> As a result, if you do put one in, you'll often end >>> up with two newlines at the end of the file. >> /That/ is something I have never seen. Which tools do that? Sounds >> like a bug to me -- and one that's easily fixed. As I read the exchange there I imagined James describing an editor that adds and extra blank line to all files without one. But the demo here shows something slightly different: > I opened a new file with vi, and hit the following keys: > > i 1 Enter Esc : x > > Here's what I see in the resulting file: > > ~(48) od -a linetest > 0000000 1 nl nl > 0000003 This seems like a misdescription of what the old Unix standard editors do. For better or worse, ed, vi, and (I think) emacs all treat a new empty file as being just a new line. What you did is add a second line there (that "Enter") and so you now have a two line file. The editor (vi) doesn't let you explicitly modify the final newline. It just _is_. With vim, you can disable the implicit final newline with "set nofixendofline", but there are Unix tools that might not like such files. As one example, I seem to recall no final newline causing a final "line" to be silently discarded in /etc/sudoers (and files included by that). Elijah ------ though sudoers syntax is a right mess from beginning to end
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Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-10 22:37 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2020-10-10 22:06 -0700
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-11 10:38 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-11 15:36 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-11 13:51 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-10-11 18:33 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-11 15:20 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-10-11 19:40 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-11 15:47 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-10-11 16:35 -0400
Re: NNTP message requirements (Was: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2020-10-11 21:13 +0000
Re: NNTP message requirements (Was: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods) DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-11 18:45 -0400
Re: NNTP message requirements Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-10-11 17:11 -0700
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-10-11 16:27 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-10-11 23:30 +0100
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-10-11 23:56 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-10-11 14:53 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-11 15:15 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-14 20:08 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-10-14 16:58 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2020-10-14 23:37 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-10-14 17:25 -0700
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2020-10-15 01:55 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-17 19:19 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-17 19:10 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Kaz Kylheku <793-849-0957@kylheku.com> - 2020-10-17 19:36 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-14 20:16 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2020-10-11 11:36 -0700
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-10-11 15:12 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-10-11 12:16 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2020-10-11 15:18 +0200
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-11 14:31 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2020-10-11 11:31 -0700
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-10-11 23:15 +0100
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-10-11 14:00 -0700
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-11 17:47 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-10-11 17:26 -0700
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-12 13:11 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-10-12 10:56 -0700
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-11-29 00:21 -0800
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-12 19:19 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods dfs <nospam@dfs.com> - 2020-10-12 18:53 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-17 23:09 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-10-18 00:24 +0100
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Kaz Kylheku <793-849-0957@kylheku.com> - 2020-10-18 16:56 +0000
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-10-20 09:17 -0400
Re: Inconsistent line counts from 3 methods Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-10-20 15:48 +0100
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