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Re: Effect of CPP tags

From Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Effect of CPP tags
Date 2024-01-07 15:51 -0800
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Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> writes:
> On 07/01/2024 03:28, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> writes:
>>> You might call it metadata, but being a type doesn't come to
>>> mind. What would be the point of that; what could you do with that
>>> type?
>> You could define objects of the type,
>
> Only if accessible. You say typeof isn't available.

The C standard says typeof isn't available.  It has nothing to do with
me.

>> you could apply sizeof to it,
>
> Same here, but sizeof can also apply to the expression.

Yes.  So what?  You asked what you could do with the type.  Perhaps
there was some other point to your question that I missed.

>> you
>> could define a type that points to it, or that's an array of it.  You
>> know, all the stuff you can normally do with a type
>
> My example stored 'with the variable' has an anonymous type. If might
> be something that only exists within the compiler, a generic 'VLA'
> type since the size is not known until runtime.
>
> It would be extraordinary for C to actually have tangible type objects
> at runtime since for me, types in C are a compile-time concept.

Nobody said anything about "tangible type objects".

Yes, types in C are a compile-time concept.  But VLA types have
information associated with them that is available only during
execution.

> But we're talking about a number.
>
> You claim that conceptually, that number is considered part of the type.

Yes, that's clear from how VLAs are specified by the standard.

>>> Suppose you had a counted string variable S, currently set to "ABC" so
>>> that its length (which you say is naturally part its type) is 3.
>> What exactly do you mean by a "counted string variable"?  If you mean
>> you have a variable whose current value is "ABC", and you can update
>> it so its value becomes "ABCDEF",
> then of course the count has to be associated with the object.
>
> It could be fixed or variable. But it's interesting that you consider
> the two to be different.

You've lost me.  Again, please explain what you mean by "counted string
variable".

> Why can't you then consider a VLA that is capable of changing its
> size, but happens to keep the same one over its lifetime.

I honestly don't know what that means.

When you say "a VLA", are you talking about an object or a type?

I can certainly consider a VLA-like object that's "capable of changing
its size" (C++'s std::vector is something like that), but C has no such
feature, so there's no point in discussing it here.

>                                                           Why should
> that then change that size from variable-associated to
> type-associated?

Again, the length of a VLA type is logically associated with the type.
An implementation could associate it, at run time, with each individual
object, but that would be inefficient in many cases, such as when there
are multiple objects of the same VLA type.  I can see no benefit at all
in associating the length with each object rather than with the type.

And that association isn't even visible to the programmer.  `sizeof vla`
and `sizeof (vla_type)` just work; I don't need to care how.

>>      typedef int rvla[rand() % 10 + 1];
>>      rvla A;
>>      rvla B;
>> A and B are of the same type and therefore have the same length.
>
> I'm sorry, it's still bizarre to me. I consider a length to be part of
> a type when it's compile-time fixed value, /and is also defined with
> the type/, for example:
>
>     type float vector[4];
>
> But never when the size is variable, whether that means determined at
> runtime and never changes, or determined at runtime but can grow. What 
> might be recorded is the fact that the size is a variable quantity
> that needs further input.

Why?

C *does not have* VLAs whose type is "determined at runtime but can
grow".  Logically associating the length of a VLA type with the type
*works*.

Here's a small non-executable example:

#include <stddef.h>

size_t foo_size;
size_t bar_size;

void func(void) {
    int n = 42;
    typedef int vla[n];
    vla foo;
    vla bar;
    foo_size = sizeof foo;
    bar_size = sizeof bar;
}

When I compile it with "gcc -S", I get assembly code that appears to
store the value 42 just once:
    movl    $42, -52(%rbp)
and retrieves that value from the same place to copy it to foo_size and
bar_size.  (I'm not an expert in x86_64 assembly language, but I'm
fairly sure that's what's going on.)  Please take a look at the
generated assembly code yourself, using any C compilers you like.  Do
any of them store the sizes of foo and bar separately?  Why do you think
it would be better to do so?

Remember that since foo and bar are of the same type, it is not possible
for them to have different lengths, so compilers don't need to allow
for that possibility.

>> The
>> obvious way to implement that would be to store the length in an
>> anonymous object associated with the type.  You're saying you'd expect
>> the size be associated with A and with B, not with the type.
>> Given:
>>      int row_count = 1000;
>>      int col_count = 2000;
>>      int vla_2d[row_count][col_count];
>> you have 1000 rows of 2000 elements each.  Would you expect to
>> create
>> 1000 implicit objects, one for each row, each holding the value 2000?
>
> I don't know. I haven't implemented VLAs, and I don't have an
> equivalent feature at this level of language.

So you don't really understand C's VLAs. That's fine, but then why do
you insist on a specific implementation technique, one that in practice
doesn't make sense?

If some non-C language supports dynamic array objects whose size can change
during their lifetime, then of course the size would be associated with
the object, not with the type.  C has no such feature.

> At the next level up, if row_count and col_count are really not known
> until runtime (your example would be better off as enums), then yes, 
> there would be 1000 rows, and each row is a 2000-element array
> containing its length.

If row_count and col_count were enums, they would be constants, and
vla_2d would not be a VLA. The whole point is that we're talking about
VLAs.

So you think each of the 1000 rows needs to store its own length of 2000
separately?  All 1000 rows are of the same type, and are guaranteed to
have the same length.  All the elements of *any* C array are of the same
type and have the same size.

> (Since in that language, each row can be a different length, or even a
> different type entirely.)

What language?

Did you think I was talking about some hypothetical C-like language?
I'm talking about C, and only C; my only assumption is that the
implementation supports VLAs, which are an optional feature in C11 and
later.  My example is pure C code.

> What I would look at would be a special multi-dimensional type (say
> like a 2D slice), which stores 2 or more dimensions, and which would
> allow all the data to be allocated in a contiguous block.
>
> I don't support that right now. But don't feel so smug, because when I
> tried your example, it crashed.
>
> Since that data structure needs 8MB of stack. Here you could
> anticipate that; but often you can't. That's one big problem with
> VLAs.

Ok, that's a valid point.  Many C implementations place relatively small
limits on stack size (in C terms, the space allocated for objects with
automatic storage duration).  I didn't think of that when I wrote my
3-line example.  (8,000,000 bytes happens to be barely within the stack
size limit on my system.)

(You can also allocate VLAs on the heap, which typically has less
stringent restrictions, but let's not get into that.)

Yes, VLAs can result in stack overflows.  So can ordinary fixed-length
arrays.  If you define a VLA that you know can't be longer than N
elements, then that's no more dangerous that defining an ordinary array
with a length of exactly N.

> After scaling down the task to 100x200, then gcc and tcc gave me a
> size of 80,000. lccwin gave me 320,000.

OK, here's a complete program with the VLA scaled down.  (200 int
objects shouldn't exceed the stack size limit on any reasonable
implementation.)

#include <stdio.h>
int main(void) {
    int row_count = 10;
    int col_count = 20;
    int vla_2d[row_count][col_count];
    printf("sizeof vla_2d[0][0] = %zu\n", sizeof vla_2d[0][0]);
    printf("sizeof vla_2d[0]    = %zu\n", sizeof vla_2d[0]);
    printf("sizeof vla_2d       = %zu\n", sizeof vla_2d);
    printf("rows                : %zu\n",
           sizeof vla_2d / sizeof vla_2d[0]);
    printf("elements per row    : %zu\n",
           sizeof vla_2d[0] / sizeof vla_2d[0][0]);
    printf("Total elements      : %zu\n",
           sizeof vla_2d / sizeof vla_2d[0][0]);
}

The output on my system with gcc, clang, and tcc is:

sizeof vla_2d[0][0] = 4
sizeof vla_2d[0]    = 80
sizeof vla_2d       = 800
rows                : 10
elements per row    : 20
Total elements      : 200

The first three lines can vary depending on sizeof (int).
The last three should be the same for all implementations.

lccwin gives me:

sizeof vla_2d[0][0] = 4
sizeof vla_2d[0]    = 16
sizeof vla_2d       = 3200
rows                : 200
elements per row    : 4
Total elements      : 800

This is clearly a bug in lccwin.  Feel free to report it to jacob navia
and/or post to comp.compilers.lcc.  I don't think he'd be interested in
hearing about it from me.

> Meanwhile my dynamic language [...]

is irrelevant.  If you want to discuss it, I suggest starting a thread
in comp.lang.misc.  I might even participate.  (Your point in bringing
up your own languages seems to be that other languages do some things
better than C does.  Of course that's true, and nobody here has said
otherwise.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-05 19:33 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-05 20:06 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-05 14:50 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-06 01:09 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-05 17:55 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-07 01:00 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-08 22:56 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-06 10:02 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-05 22:19 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-05 22:43 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-06 02:04 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-01-05 23:02 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-06 01:45 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-05 18:17 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-06 10:09 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-06 10:27 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-06 15:23 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-06 13:40 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-07 00:09 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-07 00:16 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-06 16:40 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-07 00:58 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-07 03:30 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-07 15:48 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-07 15:34 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-08 13:50 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-08 15:53 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-08 20:50 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-09 01:05 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-09 08:30 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-09 11:11 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-09 15:56 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-09 17:46 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-09 19:56 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-09 20:52 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-09 13:15 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-09 21:33 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-09 21:55 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-09 22:22 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 09:37 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 12:12 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 14:17 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 14:31 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 16:51 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 18:57 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 20:55 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 20:49 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-11 11:26 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 19:19 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-01-11 00:30 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-11 01:14 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 19:25 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-01-11 17:56 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-11 18:31 +0000
                Make (was: Re: Effect of CPP tags) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-01-15 21:01 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-11 02:29 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-01-10 17:46 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-10 14:51 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 17:58 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-10 19:16 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 19:30 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 20:27 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-09 14:22 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-01-09 17:37 -0500
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-09 23:27 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-09 16:05 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-10 00:40 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-09 16:49 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-10 02:04 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-09 19:17 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-14 09:26 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-01-10 11:22 -0500
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-10 01:54 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-01-10 02:57 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-10 05:28 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-01-10 06:28 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 09:50 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-09 23:40 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 11:10 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 19:10 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 19:11 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-11 11:55 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-11 11:42 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 14:59 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-01-11 14:58 +0000
                A good place to discuss Makefiles? (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-11 16:56 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-10 02:00 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Bart <bc@freeuk.cm> - 2024-01-10 02:14 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 11:16 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-10 14:49 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 18:13 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 10:39 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 19:24 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 11:39 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-10 20:42 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 20:20 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 12:42 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-10 21:43 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-10 22:36 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-01-10 21:39 -0500
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-11 02:46 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-11 11:44 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-11 12:19 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-11 16:13 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-11 17:00 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-11 21:18 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-11 23:03 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-11 23:58 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-12 09:08 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-11 18:49 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-11 12:16 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-11 22:02 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-11 23:20 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Anthony Cuozzo <anthony@cuozzo.us> - 2024-01-11 19:02 -0500
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-11 16:23 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-12 14:40 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 16:01 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-12 16:28 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 17:16 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-12 20:21 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-12 16:12 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-12 17:34 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-12 17:09 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-12 19:02 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-12 21:01 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 13:07 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-12 21:51 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-13 00:13 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 16:47 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-13 01:12 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 17:40 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-13 15:07 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-13 16:02 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-13 04:17 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-13 12:03 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-13 13:42 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-13 22:39 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-01-14 00:02 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-14 14:33 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-13 15:26 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-14 00:36 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-14 16:20 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 13:19 +0100
                Makefile as an implementation instance of a transformation process (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-15 15:46 +0100
                Re: Makefile as an implementation instance of a transformation process (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-01-15 15:41 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-14 09:54 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-14 18:17 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Anthony Cuozzo <anthony@cuozzo.us> - 2024-01-14 13:44 -0500
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2024-01-14 19:16 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-14 19:57 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 13:14 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Gabriel Rolland <gabrielrolland@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 09:51 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-15 11:39 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 13:57 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Gabriel Rolland <gabrielrolland@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 17:40 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 17:41 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-15 18:41 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 19:12 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-15 19:32 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 20:12 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-15 23:28 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 00:04 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 18:23 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 14:22 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-16 15:53 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 21:16 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 15:24 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 16:45 +0100
                Switch fallthrough considered harmful? (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-17 06:01 +0100
                Re: Switch fallthrough considered harmful? (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 11:44 +0100
                Re: Switch fallthrough considered harmful? (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-17 12:21 +0100
                Re: Switch fallthrough considered harmful? (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 14:10 +0100
                Re: Switch fallthrough considered harmful? (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-17 19:35 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 13:48 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Gabriel Rolland <gabrielrolland@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 17:42 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 14:56 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Gabriel Rolland <gabrielrolland@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 17:43 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 13:10 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-01-15 11:22 -0500
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 22:22 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-13 01:02 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-13 06:54 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-13 14:08 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-14 01:13 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 12:57 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 12:45 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 14:11 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 19:44 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-16 20:09 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 21:06 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 12:41 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 17:40 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-12 19:06 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 16:50 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 17:43 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-12 17:59 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-12 19:10 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-12 18:53 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 19:18 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-12 20:16 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 22:18 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-13 05:15 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 12:59 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-13 04:36 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-13 05:01 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 20:05 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 20:08 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-13 04:31 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-13 07:13 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 19:15 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-12 20:14 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-13 05:12 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-13 04:46 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 20:52 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 20:57 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 21:39 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-14 09:22 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-14 18:10 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 13:11 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 14:58 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-15 01:05 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 20:44 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 20:39 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 21:47 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 22:37 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 14:20 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 12:21 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-15 00:52 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 12:09 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-12 22:16 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-01-12 23:04 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-01-12 23:30 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2024-01-13 00:16 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-17 11:16 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-17 18:47 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-17 19:42 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-17 22:18 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-17 23:48 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-17 16:23 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-18 00:25 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-18 00:47 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-18 04:30 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-18 10:26 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-18 19:40 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-18 20:21 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-19 11:07 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-19 11:17 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-19 12:41 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-19 13:18 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-19 15:42 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-19 15:03 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-19 18:12 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-19 18:28 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-19 18:43 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-19 19:48 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-19 17:32 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-19 17:05 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-19 19:50 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-19 14:18 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-19 14:14 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-19 16:18 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags dave_thompson_2@comcast.net - 2024-02-26 04:17 -0500
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-02-26 15:56 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-18 15:16 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-18 21:47 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-18 23:46 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-18 23:29 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 13:23 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-21 00:40 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 12:42 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-12 21:31 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 15:04 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-14 12:18 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-15 00:34 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-15 02:14 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-15 07:07 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 23:36 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-15 07:40 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 17:04 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 17:29 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 12:27 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-15 23:24 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 18:18 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 14:38 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 16:55 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 17:08 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-17 02:21 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 21:34 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 18:35 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-17 03:03 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 19:59 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 13:28 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-17 12:55 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 14:24 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 20:02 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 11:54 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 14:42 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-16 15:08 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 16:54 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-16 15:57 +0000
                CPU's MAC instructions (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-17 06:25 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-16 18:52 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-15 14:15 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 14:35 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-15 15:44 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 17:35 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-15 18:55 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 19:19 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 12:31 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-16 01:21 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 11:30 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 15:06 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-16 17:04 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 13:43 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-17 13:00 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-18 13:00 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 13:28 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 21:58 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 21:55 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 22:02 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-16 15:55 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-01-16 18:39 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-17 00:11 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-17 16:11 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 21:42 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-18 21:44 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-15 12:28 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 16:39 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 16:23 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 17:30 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-15 21:25 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-15 20:41 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 15:08 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-16 16:02 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 19:03 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-16 18:45 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 23:00 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-16 22:10 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2024-01-16 22:18 +0000
                NO vs. SE (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-17 07:11 +0100
                Re: NO vs. SE (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 14:17 +0100
                Re: NO vs. SE (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-17 16:33 +0000
                Re: NO vs. SE (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 18:47 +0100
                Re: NO vs. SE (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-01-17 18:04 +0000
                Re: NO vs. SE (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-17 19:15 +0100
                Re: NO vs. SE (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) - 2024-01-18 17:22 +0200
                Re: NO vs. SE (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2024-03-24 14:24 +0200
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 12:26 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 16:29 +0100
                Interpreter Dispatch in C (was: Effect of CPP Tags) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 19:21 +0000
                Re: Interpreter Dispatch in C David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 23:24 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 15:15 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-16 18:46 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-16 22:42 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 14:25 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-17 14:51 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-17 19:07 +0100
                Optimization and inline assembly (was Re: Effect of CPP tags) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-01-17 07:07 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 18:58 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-14 19:01 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-12 09:52 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-11 09:41 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-01-14 09:20 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-11 13:24 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-01-11 13:45 +0000
                Re: Effect of CPP tags David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-01-11 14:55 +0100
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-11 12:27 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 16:04 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 16:24 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 16:36 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-12 16:43 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-01-10 19:36 -0800
                Re: Effect of CPP tags James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-01-09 20:05 -0500

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