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| From | Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c, comp.unix.programmer |
| Subject | Re: Piping to stdin |
| Date | 2023-08-14 12:20 +0300 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <87o7ja3rpp.fsf@fatphil.org> (permalink) |
| References | <9e7a4bd1-bfbb-4df7-af1a-27ca9625e50bn@googlegroups.com> <mc7CM.741128$GMN3.387092@fx16.iad> <87r0o6mqme.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <ubbugh$3hium$2@news.xmission.com> <20230813201038.114@kylheku.com> |
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Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> writes: > On 2023-08-14, Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote: >> In article <87r0o6mqme.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>, >> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote: >>>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes: >>>[...] >>>> Most programs in unix will accept '-?' or '-h' or some other flag >>>> to indicate that usage information is to be printed. Many utilities >>>> will print usage information if the input arguments are not valid. >>> >>>Most Unix programs don't use '-?' because '?' is a shell wildcard >>>character. If you happen to have files in the current directory named >>>"-x" and "-y", "myprogram -?" expands to "myprogram -x -y". >> >> Indeed - and this is one of the many reasons why insisting on an option >> (any option) to get help is a bad idea. Given that -? is kind of a >> standard in the Windows world, many programs that get ported over to >> Unix from Windows, will have this misfeature. > > Many command-line programs get ported to Unix from Windows? > > Why don't they adjust their conventions? > > /X /Y /Z /? is another convention; that one is smarter. > > The system installation can arrange for the first three not > to be paths, and for /? not to match anything due to there > not being a one-character item in the root dir. So if I want to grep case-insensitively for whole words, and have line numbers printed with the matched lines - in other words, on the unix version I'm doing ``grep -win ...'' - should my system installation arrange for /win to not be a path? Phil -- We are no longer hunters and nomads. No longer awed and frightened, as we have gained some understanding of the world in which we live. As such, we can cast aside childish remnants from the dawn of our civilization. -- NotSanguine on SoylentNews, after Eugen Weber in /The Western Tradition/
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Piping to stdin Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 06:42 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 13:55 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 07:07 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-13 15:21 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 07:31 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-13 16:40 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-13 16:08 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-13 16:07 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-13 17:26 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-13 19:09 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-13 20:45 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-13 20:53 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-13 20:47 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 00:59 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-14 03:07 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 03:12 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-14 15:14 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2023-08-15 12:50 +1000
Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 04:59 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 23:15 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-15 08:50 +0100
Dealing with weird filenames (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 08:10 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-15 15:34 +0200
Re: Piping to stdin Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-15 19:50 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-15 20:16 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-08-16 06:34 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-16 17:39 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-16 17:37 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-16 17:43 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 13:35 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:51 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-08-16 01:37 -0400
Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-16 13:14 +0200
Re: Piping to stdin Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2023-08-15 12:08 -0600
Re: Piping to stdin Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 09:32 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-16 17:27 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 14:30 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Giovanni <lsodgf0@home.net.it> - 2023-08-15 17:14 +0200
Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-15 15:48 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 16:12 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-15 16:15 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-15 16:22 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 10:26 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-17 14:23 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-17 15:25 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-15 17:33 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:32 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 10:32 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:57 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 05:14 -0700
Wrecking a good thing? (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-17 14:09 +0000
Re: Wrecking a good thing? Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-18 00:39 +0300
Re: Wrecking a good thing? (Was: Piping to stdin) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 11:17 +0200
Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 15:14 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-08-17 08:58 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-17 13:52 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-17 15:20 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 13:43 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-18 11:28 +0200
Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 21:52 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-19 13:33 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin Oğuz <oguzismailuysal@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 16:15 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-19 14:48 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-20 17:24 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-20 19:21 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-20 21:57 +0100
What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-20 22:33 +0000
Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-21 01:26 +0000
Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-21 02:57 +0000
Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 17:16 +0100
Re: What language is this? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-21 19:10 +0000
Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 20:31 +0100
Re: What language is this? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-21 20:29 +0000
Re: What language is this? Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2023-08-21 21:48 +0100
Re: What language is this? (Was: Piping to stdin) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-08-21 06:50 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 21:14 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 23:24 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-15 20:50 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-16 17:11 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-16 15:25 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-16 19:29 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-17 14:49 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-16 03:20 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-15 18:33 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin "Nuno Silva" <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-14 09:45 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-13 16:06 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-13 17:09 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 01:03 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-14 04:00 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2023-08-14 12:20 +0300
Re: Piping to stdin Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 02:44 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 03:54 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 11:22 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-14 15:49 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-14 17:19 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2023-08-14 17:21 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-15 08:02 -0700
Re: Piping to stdin John Forkosh <forkosh@panix.com> - 2023-08-14 03:15 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-14 11:28 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 15:41 +0000
Re: Piping to stdin Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-14 22:02 +0100
Re: Piping to stdin scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-14 21:14 +0000
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