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Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing

From Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing
Date 2023-08-21 14:51 +0100
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Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:

> On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 00:05:42 UTC+1, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.ar...@gmail.com> writes: 
>> 
>> >> > if (!strcmp(tag, "CDATA") /* check for CDATA and process it. */ 
>> >> I can't stop you parsing <[CDATA[ and putting "CDATA" in a variable tag, 
>> >> but it's not a good name. 
>> >> 
>> > Oh, there's a typo. A stray '<'. So of course the load would 
>> > fail. That's why I'm writing another XML parser. The main motive is to 
>> > get better error reports.
>> So you intended to write
>> <utf8 name="cdata">CDATA</utf8>
>> and CDATA had nothing to do with XML CDATA sections. What's the 
>> reference to "a tag called 'CDATA'" then?
>>
> The Baby X resource compiler accepts a script file written in XML as its
> main input. (The script file usually contains paths to other input files). At
> the moment, it contains a simple XML parser which will adequately parse 
> the subset of XML used for the script files, but isn't goo enough to be a
> general purpose XML parser. Also, it doesn't have good error reporting. Which
> is a practical problem with XML scripts written by hand.
> So I need a new XML parser, which I'm writing at the moment. However the 
> Baby X resource compiler, in its current state, can be used to assist the
> writing of the next generation of XML parser.

I can't see an answer to my question, but it was not really important.
I just wanted to know what you were saying.

>> > Apparently it opens a can of worms because it makes the string a 
>> > char8_t * instead of a char *.
>> Is the can of worms really there? The "apparently" makes me worry it's 
>> hearsay and FUD. In C11 it's a char[], but in C23 just cast to char * 
>> or unsigned char *. Where are the worms? 
>>
> A major advantage of  UTF-8 is that it is transparent to UTF-8 naive programs,
> as long as they accept strings in ASCII and don't try to play with the top
> bit. If you use a different type for char and UTF-8 characters, you lose that
> interoperability.

So you ignored my suggestion and continued to insist that there is some
mysterious problem.  Nothing in the type (other than, ironically, const
which you refuse to use) can prevent problems in a program the fiddles
with the top bit so that's a red-herring.

I don't use this stuff at the moment so I'd really like to know the
problems, not at the level of description you are using.

> In C++ 
> std::cout << " <Greek UTF-8> "
> and
> std::cout << u8"  <Greek UTF-8> "
>
> can do different things, replacing <Greek UTF-8> with extended UTF-8
> characters.

I thought you were generating C.  A flag to generate C++ strings would
be a better option for C++ output would it not?  Especially as C++ is
moving away from supporting such C-style strings in ostream.

Anyway, I see no permission in C++ to mess with the characters in the
string.  The C++ wording seems to be almost the same as the C wording.
What compiler does this?

> In C, it's more subtle.

That's even less precise.  Where are the worms?

>> But if I were writing such a program, I'd put effort into allowing
>> different C standard outputs rather than dealing with EBCDIC source
>> code. Someone who uses C23 will prefer
>> 
> I'm writing the XML parser component of the program at the moment. The
> XML parser always produces output in UTF-8. The current version only
> accepts XML input in UTF-8. But the instructions say to a ccept
> UTF-16, and with the current design, that's not too hard to do.
> However there could be attribute on the utf8 tag in the script files
> to say "output UTF-8 in human-readable form using the u8 prefix". That
> would be useful.

I think it would.  And const could be an option too, especially if these
can be defaulted (otherwise it might well be easier just to add const to
the output oneself).

>> char8_t *cdata = u8"CDATA";
>> >> > Instead we need to write 
>> >> > 
>> >> > /* CDATA in UTF-8 */ 
>> >> > char *cdata = {0x43, 0x44, 0x54, 0x41, 0x00}: 
>> >> I think you mean {0x43, 0x44, 0x41, 0x54, 0x41, 0x00}; 
>> >> > if (!strcmp(tag, cdata)) /* check for CDATA and process it */ 
>> >> You don't /need/ to, but it's one way. 
>> >> > This is where the Baby X resource compiler comes to our rescue. It will 
>> >> > convert ASCII to that form, with the utf-8 tag. 
>> >> It comes into it's own for people using EBCDIC for C source code? 
>> >> That's a tiny user base. I am now completely lost. On other machines, 
>> >> converting ASCII to UTF-8 is a no-op. 
>> >> 
>> > Yes. Instead of converting strings to UTF-8 by hand, which is error prone, the 
>> > Baby X resource compiler will do it for you automatically.
>> It performs the no-op automatically and comes into its own only on 
>> EBCDIC compilers, or was the "yes" a typo?
>>
> You can freely mix ASCII and UTF-8 (as long as you don't use the u8
> modifier), in C.  So ASCII string are also UTF-8 strings and there's
> no point in representing them in hex.
> So on an ASCII system, if you have a string which is constrained to be
> ASCII there's not much point using the utf8 tag.  On an EBCDIC system
> it is different. The strings are no long ASCII. So if you use the Baby
> X resource compiler's "string" tag to add a string to the source code,
> and compile it with a compiler whose execution character set is
> EBCDIC, you'll get a string in EBCDIC. Which is usually what you want,
> but not always.

I'm going to back out of this exchange.  I can't seem to get a straight
answer.

>> > The number of people with EBCDIC C compilers is very small. But they 
>> > tend to be dealing with machines worth many millions of pounds and 
>> > data of incalculably high value.
>> The value of the machines and data don't have much to do with whether 
>> it's worth your while supporting EBCDIC. Will there be even one such 
>> user of the system? Will that user really not know how to pipe their 
>> data through, say, xmllint first? 
>> 
> Well it does. If you've got only one user who is a hobbyist and does a
> bit of bedroom programming for casual games with a tiny circulation,
> then I think you'd say that was a disappointment.If you've got only
> one user who is a mainframe programmer and says that the program has
> been invaluable in helping him process data worth millions of pounds,
> then I think you'd say that the effort has been worthwhile.

I see we have different value systems.

-- 
Ben.

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C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 00:31 -0700
  Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-16 11:14 +0100
    Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 00:23 +0100
      Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 21:38 -0700
        Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 12:19 +0100
          Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 07:53 -0700
            Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 00:15 +0100
              Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-18 16:33 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 21:46 +0100
              Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 03:04 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-19 13:19 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 14:48 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-19 15:09 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-19 15:17 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 21:05 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 21:05 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-19 21:07 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-19 22:31 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-19 22:04 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-08-20 07:41 -0400
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-20 17:00 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 11:20 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 14:45 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 00:05 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-20 19:45 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 14:51 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-21 11:28 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 02:59 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-21 15:17 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-21 23:03 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-22 14:09 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 05:38 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-22 15:31 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 06:51 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-22 19:19 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-22 21:59 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-23 09:57 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 07:48 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-23 16:05 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 08:21 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-23 19:30 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-23 18:50 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 10:49 -0700
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                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-23 21:28 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 20:53 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-24 15:15 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 07:50 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-24 16:48 +0100
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                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-24 18:09 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 09:59 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 09:46 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 01:37 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 08:50 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 01:53 -0700
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                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 13:42 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-25 13:59 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing candycane@f172.n1.z21.fsxnet (candycane) - 2023-08-26 00:45 +1300
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-25 19:50 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 02:55 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-26 19:21 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 03:05 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 18:28 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-28 14:01 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-28 16:07 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-29 09:16 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-29 19:22 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-29 19:38 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-29 20:11 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-29 21:59 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 00:43 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-30 12:30 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 05:04 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-30 17:50 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-30 19:41 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-31 11:18 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-30 14:40 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-30 15:03 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 12:00 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-30 20:50 -0700
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                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 04:31 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-25 14:06 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2023-08-25 15:35 +0000
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                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-26 22:40 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 23:32 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 03:02 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-27 13:25 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 14:37 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-26 19:49 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-26 22:00 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-08-26 17:31 -0400
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 15:28 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-27 04:24 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 21:59 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing candycane@f172.n1.z21.fsxnet (candycane) - 2023-08-27 02:42 +1300
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-27 11:23 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-27 22:45 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-08-27 19:06 -0400
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-08-28 02:18 -0400
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 16:21 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-28 00:00 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 19:36 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-28 03:00 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-28 06:58 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 15:22 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-28 16:49 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 17:11 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-29 16:06 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-29 08:27 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-29 01:36 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-29 01:22 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-29 10:40 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 02:53 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 03:00 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-29 16:18 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 13:06 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-29 22:14 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 01:32 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-30 21:09 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-30 12:44 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-08-30 12:32 -0400
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 11:44 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-09-09 01:15 -0400
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-31 04:47 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 11:42 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-30 23:36 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-31 08:15 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-01 11:48 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-03 03:55 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-03 11:44 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-03 16:20 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-03 16:47 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-09-03 17:24 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-10-03 03:16 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-03 17:26 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-10-03 03:19 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-29 19:43 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 13:23 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bobby Moore <bobbymoore018@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 13:54 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-29 11:41 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-29 08:29 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-29 16:54 +0100
                Re: Named function arguments (Was : C vs Haskell for XML parsing) Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 19:30 +0000
                Re: Named function arguments (Was : C vs Haskell for XML parsing) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-30 19:53 +0000
                Re: Named function arguments (Was : C vs Haskell for XML parsing) Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 20:07 +0000
                Re: Named function arguments (Was : C vs Haskell for XML parsing) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-30 20:42 +0000
                Re: Named function arguments (Was : C vs Haskell for XML parsing) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 23:15 +0100
                Re: Named function arguments (Was : C vs Haskell for XML parsing) Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 18:41 +0000
                Re: Named function arguments (Was : C vs Haskell for XML parsing) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-31 12:43 +0200
                Re: Named function arguments (Was : C vs Haskell for XML parsing) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-30 20:40 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-28 14:15 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-28 15:53 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-28 18:41 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-28 18:01 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-28 20:01 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-28 20:14 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-28 19:27 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-28 16:09 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-28 21:53 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-28 20:37 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-28 23:39 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-29 00:23 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 01:01 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-29 19:28 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-29 11:08 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-28 01:31 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:18 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 18:50 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 19:18 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 21:19 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-27 20:33 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 14:14 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 13:56 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-28 11:00 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 15:12 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-29 16:32 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 13:12 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-30 12:50 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 23:38 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-26 14:09 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-27 00:44 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 00:18 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-27 17:56 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 19:20 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 11:18 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-27 18:34 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 00:32 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-28 11:14 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-28 14:10 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2023-08-29 10:47 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-29 04:53 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-29 06:35 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-08-28 16:12 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-28 08:24 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-28 22:17 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 14:35 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 14:38 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-28 01:00 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-28 11:24 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 03:29 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-28 14:01 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-28 08:40 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-27 19:11 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-25 14:49 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-25 19:59 +0200
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-25 18:31 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:03 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-23 14:54 -0700
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-22 14:57 +0000
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-22 14:10 +0100
                Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-21 13:46 +0100
    Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:32 -0700
      Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:47 -0700
    Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-17 00:37 +0000
      Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:40 -0700
      Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-17 02:37 -0700
        Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-17 13:50 +0000
  Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-08-17 00:07 +0100
  Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-08-16 17:25 -0700
  Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 03:32 -0700
    Re: C vs Haskell for XML parsing fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2023-08-17 03:42 -0700

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