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Re: Collatz Conjecture proved.

From Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Collatz Conjecture proved.
Date 2026-01-28 17:34 +0000
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David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:

> On 26/01/2026 21:34, wij wrote:
>> On Mon, 2026-01-26 at 21:07 +0100, David Brown wrote:
>>> On 26/01/2026 16:51, wij wrote:
...
>>>> Not quite sure what you mean.
>>>>
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/cscall/files/MisFiles/RealNumber2-en.txt/download
>>>>            3. 1/3 = 0.333... + non-zero-remainder (True
>>>> identity. How to deny?)
>>>>
>>>> How would you deny it, and call the cut-off 'equation' identity?
>>>
>>> Have you ever heard of the concept of "limits" ?  You might want to
>>> learn something about them before embarrassing yourself.
>>
>> What do you know about the concept of "limits"? (You invented? Don't try
>> to be
>> the next one, again. I remember the other expert in this forum has
>> humiliated himself
>> once, not sure which one, if I can safely predict. And I ignored the
>> other reply,
>> because it is too obvious, I leave as record)
>
> No, I did not invent the concept of limits.  Newton and Leibnitz were
> probably the first to use them, then Cauchy formalized them (if I remember
> my history correctly).  But I /learned/ about them - understood them,
> understood proofs about them, understood how to use them.

This is a crank topic that annoys me so I will allow myself one more
post in this wildly off-topic thread.

Limits are not needed to show that 1/3 = 0.333... exactly.  All that's
needed is to know what 0.333... means.  It means that, for every n, the
nth fractional digit it 3.  Obviously, if someone denies this you just
have to give up, but if it is agreed that that is what the ... means
then it's simple so show that there is no n (in N) for which the nth
digit of 1/3 is not 3.

-- 
Ben.

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Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 00:37 +0800
  Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-25 00:23 +0000
  Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-24 23:06 -0500
    Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 13:28 +0800
      Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-25 08:15 +0000
        Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 16:46 +0800
          Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-25 10:38 +0100
            Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 18:55 +0800
            Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 19:06 +0800
              Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-25 12:47 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-25 23:44 +0800
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-25 12:22 -0500
          [OT] Proofs.  Was: Collatz Conjecture proved. Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2026-01-25 11:33 +0000
            Re: [OT] Proofs.  Was: Collatz Conjecture proved. richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-01-25 13:11 +0000
          Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-25 18:52 +0000
            Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 03:58 +0800
      Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-25 11:25 -0500
        Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 01:20 +0800
          Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-01-26 01:25 +0100
            Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 23:51 +0800
              Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-27 00:07 +0800
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-26 21:05 +0100
              Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-26 21:07 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-27 04:34 +0800
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-27 09:21 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-27 16:31 +0000
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-01-27 18:24 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-28 15:17 +0000
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-27 18:44 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-27 22:52 +0000
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-28 08:29 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-01-28 10:27 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 12:59 -0800
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-01-30 06:33 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 11:59 -0800
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 04:08 +0800
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-27 15:11 -0800
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2026-01-28 17:34 +0000
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-01-28 18:23 +0000
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-29 08:39 +0100
                Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 13:02 -0800
              Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-26 21:18 -0500
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      Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-27 19:46 -0800
        Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 12:34 +0800
          Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-03 04:16 -0800
        Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 13:04 -0800
  Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2026-01-29 16:50 +0000
    Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 05:40 +0800
      Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2026-01-30 02:20 +0000
        Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-30 11:03 +0800
          Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2026-01-30 04:22 +0000
          Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-29 20:38 -0800
            Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-31 05:30 +0800
              Re: Collatz Conjecture proved. wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-02-06 14:16 +0800
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