Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation?

From	Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: realloc() - frequency, conditions, or experiences about relocation?
Date	2024-06-24 09:32 -0700
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Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> writes:

> On 18/06/2024 08:09, Tim Rentsch wrote:
>
>> Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Ben Bacarisse to Malcolm McLean:
>>>
>>>> [next is a comment from Malcolm]
>>>>
>>>>> Your strategy for avoiding these extremes is exponential
>>>>> growth.
>>>>
>>>> It's odd to call it mine.  It's very widely know and used.
>>>> "The one I mentioned" might be less confusing description.
>>>
>>> I think it is a modern English idiom, which I dislike as
>>> well.  StackOverflow is full of questions starting like:
>>> "How do you do this?" and "How do I do that?"  They are
>>> informal ways of the more literary "How does one do this?"
>>> or "What is the way to do that?"
>>
>> I have a different take here.  First the "your" of "your
>> strategy" reads as a definite pronoun, meaning it refers
>> specifically to Ben and not to some unknown other party.
>> (And incidentally is subtly insulting because of that,
>> whether it was meant that way or not.)
>>
>> Second the use of "you" to mean an unspecified other person
>> is not idiom but standard usage.  The word "you" is both a
>> definite pronoun and an indefinite pronoun, depending on
>> context.  The word "they" also has this property.  Consider
>> these two examples:
>>
>>     The bank downtown was robbed.  They haven't been caught
>>     yet.
>>
>>     They say the sheriff isn't going to run for re-election.
>>
>> In the first example "they" is a definite pronoun, referring
>> to the people who robbed the bank.  In the second example,
>> "they" is an indefinite pronoun, referring to unspecified
>> people in general (perhaps but not necessarily everyone).
>> The word "you" is similar:  it can mean specifically the
>> listener, or it can mean generically anyone in a broader
>> audience, even those who never hear or read the statement
>> with "you" in it.
>>
>> The word "one" used as a pronoun is more formal, and to me
>> at least often sounds stilted.  In US English "one" is most
>> often an indefinite pronoun, either second person or third
>> person.  But "one" can also be used as a first person
>> definite pronoun (referring to the speaker), which an online
>> reference tells me is chiefly British English.  (I would
>> guess that this usage predominates in "the Queen's English"
>> dialect of English, but I have very little experience in
>> such things.)
>>
>> Finally I would normally read "I" as a first person definite
>> pronoun, and not an indefinite pronoun.  So I don't have any
>> problem with someone saying "how should I ..." when asking
>> for advice.  They aren't asking how someone else should ...
>> but how they should ..., and what advice I might give could
>> very well depend on who is doing the asking.
>
> Ben said
>
>> Restore snipped Ben upthread
>
> "In practice, the cost is usually moderate and can be very
> effectively managed by using an exponential allocation scheme:  at
> every reallocation multiply the storage space by some factor greater
> than 1 (I often use 3/2, but doubling is often used as well)."
>
> So it's open and shut, and no two ways about it.  Ben's strategy is
> exponential growth.  And to be fair I use that strategy myself in
> functions like fslutp().  It's only not Ben's strategy if we mean to
> imply that Ben was the first person to use expoential growth, or the
> first to understand the mathematical implications, and of course
> that's not the case.  It was all worked out by Euler long before any
> of us were born.  [...]

You have an annoying habit.  Your writing often comes across as
authoritarian and somewhat condescending.  Furthermore you tend not
to listen very well.  Your response above is a case in point.  You
ignore what I'm talking about (which is not whether Ben uses an
exponential growth strategy, or whether such a strategy is "Ben's"
or not), and instead talk about something that is irrelevant to what
I was saying.  You have completely missed the point.  Your comments
do nothing to extend the conversation.  From where I sit all they do
is cause irritation and illustrate how muddled your thinking is.
I'm sure this isn't the first time you've heard comments along these
lines.  It would be nice if you would make an effort to improve
your behavior in light of these repeated comments.

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