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Re: Why halt deciders can't be "interesting" programs. (HP refutation)

From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Why halt deciders can't be "interesting" programs. (HP refutation)
Date 2020-09-12 22:28 -0700
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Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> writes:

> On 9/12/20 7:30 PM, olcott wrote:
>
>> That is a great analysis, yet possibly incorrect if the whole idea of
>> the halting problem proofs are anchored in a fundamental misconception.
>
> And I don't understand what a working simulation of a Turing Machine
> will help if you intend to invalidate the basic rules of logic used to
> describe them.

I doubt very much that you will accomplish anything useful
by continuing this conversation any further.

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