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| From | Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' |
| Date | 2026-05-14 08:37 -0700 |
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Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
[..discussing C expression syntax..]
> [...] [Remembering precedence in C is difficult because of]
> a mis-ranking of a class of operators in "C". (I noticed that
> already when I read K&R some time around 1985, but I first saw
> that "officially" acknowledged not too long ago when someone
> posted a link to a paper from, IIRC, some time in the 1990's
> written by one of the authors of "C".) - And that discrepancy
> detail in C's precedence ranking was actually the only reason
> for me looking "regularly" into the precedence table of my K&R.
> (The point is that - with the exception of & ^ | - the ranking
> makes perfectly sense and should be easily usable without doubt
> by a concept-knowing programmer. But note that, historically,
> a sort of "rationale" can be formulated for the discrepancy to
> justify the given choice in context of specifically "C". But
> still remember the "official" acknowledgement of an issue here.)
I think it's easy to remember how expressions in C work with the
help of just a few memory aids:
1. unary operators are always ahead of binary operators, first
those on the right and then those on the left;
2. the bitwise operators form a sandwich enclosing the relational
operators and the equality operators - shift (<<,>>) on top,
and the three kinds of logical operations (&,^,|) underneath;
3. sizeof is greedy with respect to type names: sizeof (int)+1
is (sizeof (int))+1, not sizeof ((int)+1)
Everything else goes where it makes sense.
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Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-07 19:02 +0200
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Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-14 01:39 +0000
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Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-14 11:49 +0200
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Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-15 02:38 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-14 08:37 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-14 17:00 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-14 09:44 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-14 18:57 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-14 18:51 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-14 19:19 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-14 20:50 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-15 02:52 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-15 02:07 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-15 03:39 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-14 19:04 -0700
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Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-15 01:31 +0100
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Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-15 11:38 +0100
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Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-15 13:05 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-15 13:58 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-15 14:54 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-15 15:00 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-15 16:01 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-15 12:23 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-15 12:54 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-15 21:39 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-15 14:14 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-16 00:44 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-16 00:36 +0100
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-15 02:46 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-13 12:34 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-12 13:36 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-12 13:10 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-12 16:46 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 15:19 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-12 19:02 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-13 14:33 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-13 11:44 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-13 21:22 +0000
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Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-12 19:07 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-12 18:09 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 18:45 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-12 21:24 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-13 13:14 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-13 13:12 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-13 14:40 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-14 08:13 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-13 12:41 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-12 18:36 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-13 14:47 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-08 18:54 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-08 22:43 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-08 16:15 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-09 02:32 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-09 01:36 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-10 07:23 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-10 12:37 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-11 08:06 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-11 10:56 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-13 11:32 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-08 20:04 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-09 20:14 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-09 15:19 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-10 16:20 +0000
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-08 09:23 -0700
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-08 19:58 +0200
Re: Safety of casting from 'long' to 'int' Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-13 10:38 -0700
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