Re: filling area by color atack safety

From	Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: filling area by color atack safety
Date	2024-03-24 13:26 -0700
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Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 07:27:38 -0700
> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 11:57:53 +0000
>>> Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> The nice thing about Tim's method is that we can expect that
>>> performance depends on number of recolored pixels and almost
>>> nothing else.
>>
>> One aspect that I consider a significant plus is my code never
>> does poorly.  Certainly it isn't the fastest in all cases, but
>> it's never abysmally slow.
>
> To be fair, none of presented algorithms is abysmally slow.  When
> compared by number of visited points, they all appear to be within
> factor of 2 or 2.5 of each other.

Certainly "abysmally slow" is subjective, but working in a large
pixel field, filling the whole field starting at the center,
Malcolm's code runs slower than my unoptimized code by a factor of
10 (and a tad slower than that compared to my optimized code).

> Some of them for some patterns could be 10-15 times slower than
> others, but it does not happen for all patterns and when it
> happens it's because of problematic implementation rather because
> of differences in algorithms.

In the case of Malcolm's code I think it's the algorithm, because
it doesn't scale linearly.  Malcolm's code runs faster than mine
for small colorings, but slows down dramatically as the image
being colored gets bigger.

> The big difference between algorithms is not a speed, but amount of
> auxiliary memory used in the worst case.  Your algorithm appears to be
> the best in that department, [...]

Yes, my unoptimized algorithm was designed to use as little
memory as possible.  The optimized version traded space for
speed:  it runs a little bit faster but incurs a non-trivial cost
in terms of space used.  I think it's still not too bad, an upper
bound of a small multiple of N for an NxN pixel field.

> But even by that metric, the difference between different
> implementations of the same algorithm is often much bigger than
> difference between algorithms.

If I am not mistaken the original naive recursive algorithm has a
space cost that is O( N**2 ) for an NxN pixel field.  The big-O
difference swamps everything else, just like the big-O difference
in runtime does for that metric.

> For example, solid 200x200 image with starting point in the corner
> [...]

On small pixel fields almost any algorithm is probably not too
bad.  These days any serious algorithm should scale well up
to at least 4K by 4K, and tested up to at least 16K x 16K.
Tricks that make some things faster for small images sometimes
fall on their face when confronted with a larger image.  My code
isn't likely to win many races on small images, but on large
images I expect it will always be competitive even if it doesn't
finish in first place.

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  Re: filling area by color atack safety Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-03-16 11:33 +0000
    Re: filling area by color atack safety Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-03-16 13:55 +0000
      Re: filling area by color atack safety bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-03-16 14:41 +0000
        Re: filling area by color atack safety Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-03-17 10:42 +0000
        Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-18 03:00 -0700
          Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-18 14:23 +0200
            Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-18 14:13 -0700
            Re: filling area by color atack safety fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-03-19 16:05 +0100
              Re: filling area by color atack safety bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-03-19 17:16 +0000
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                Re: filling area by color atack safety fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-03-19 23:07 +0100
                Re: filling area by color atack safety David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-03-20 09:29 +0100
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        Re: filling area by color atack safety Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-03-17 14:56 +0000
          Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-17 17:42 +0200
          Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-17 18:25 +0200
            Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-17 19:39 +0200
              Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-18 11:36 -0700
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                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-18 23:10 -0700
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-03-19 12:06 +0000
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                Re: filling area by color atack safety Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-03-18 17:25 +0000
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      Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-18 02:30 -0700
        Re: filling area by color atack safety Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-03-18 11:08 +0000
          Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-18 22:54 -0700
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        Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-20 10:41 +0200
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    Re: filling area by color atack safety bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-03-16 20:23 +0000
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    Re: filling area by color atack safety fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-03-20 01:48 +0100
      Re: filling area by color atack safety Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2024-03-22 13:04 +1100
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      Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-19 13:18 +0200
        Re: filling area by color atack safety Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2024-03-19 11:57 +0000
          Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-19 15:49 +0200
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              Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-20 10:56 +0200
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-20 06:51 -0700
          Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-19 19:18 +0200
            Re: filling area by color atack safety fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-03-20 09:27 +0100
              Re: filling area by color atack safety fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-03-20 09:39 +0100
              Re: filling area by color atack safety fir <fir@grunge.pl> - 2024-03-20 09:51 +0100
            Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-20 07:27 -0700
              Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-24 20:27 +0300
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-24 13:26 -0700
                Re: filling area by color atack safety "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-03-24 14:26 -0700
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-25 01:28 +0300
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-26 17:52 +0200
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-30 00:54 -0700
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-30 21:26 +0300
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-04-09 01:00 -0700
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-28 23:04 -0700
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-29 15:21 +0200
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-03-29 23:58 -0700
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-30 21:15 +0300
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-03-31 10:54 +0200
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-04-09 02:32 -0700
                Re: filling area by color atack safety Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-04-09 01:55 -0700
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                Re: filling area by color atack safety - worst memory size Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-04-17 10:47 -0700
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