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Re: Is C ready to become a safer language?

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From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
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Subject Re: Is C ready to become a safer language?
Date Fri, 09 Feb 2024 17:59:51 -0800
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bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

[...]

> This is something which has long been of fascination to me:  how
> exactly do you get a C compiler to actually fail a program with a
> hard error when there is obviously something wrong, while not also
> failing on completely harmless matters.

I think the answer is obvious:  unless and until you find someone
who works on a C compiler and who has exactly the same sense that
you do of "when there is obviously something wrong" and of what
conditions fall under the heading of "completely harmless matters",
and also the same sense that you do of how a C compiler should
behave in those cases, you won't get exactly what you want unless
you do it yourself.

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  Re: Is C ready to become a safer language? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-02-08 04:40 +0000
    Re: Is C ready to become a safer language? Kaz Kylheku <433-929-6894@kylheku.com> - 2024-02-08 05:00 +0000
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          Re: Is C ready to become a safer language? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 14:19 -0300
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                Re: Is C ready to become a safer language? bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2024-02-09 12:45 +0000
                Re: Is C ready to become a safer language? Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-02-09 13:01 +0000
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      Re: Is C ready to become a safer language? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-02-10 16:15 -0800
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    Re: Is C ready to become a safer language? Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2024-02-08 13:25 -0300
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            Re: Is C ready to become a safer language? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-02-13 06:22 +0000
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