Re: Regarding assignment to struct

From	Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Regarding assignment to struct
Date	2025-12-22 04:40 -0800
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Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> writes:

> On Wed 5/7/2025 12:37 AM, David Brown wrote:
>
>>> That would get an immediate downcheck during review for exactly
>>> that reason.
>>
>> Of course.  In fact, if someone presented such code for review (and
>> assuming I noticed the commas!)  I'd have to consider whether it was
>> done maliciously, intentionally deceptively, due to incompetence, or
>> smart- > arse coding.  In all my C coding experience, I can't recall
>> ever coming across a single situation when I thought the use of the
>> comma operator was appropriate in the kind of code I work with.
>
> Wow!  That's catastrophically bad.
>
> As it has been stated many times before, both C and C++ are
> programming languages that embrace both statement-level and
> expression-level programming.  Expression-level programming
> (e.g. where ?:` is used for branching and `,` for sequencing) is a
> very valuable and massively important programming paradigm in these
> languages.  The fact that elaborate expression-level programming is
> not in nay way abandoned or shunned today is pretty obvious in C++,
> since C++ took major steps lately to develop its expression-level
> capabilities.  But it has always been and will always remain
> important in C as well.
>
> The proclivity to stick exclusively to statement-level programming
> in C and, God forbid, impose it in others through so called "code
> reviews"... that would be a trait specific to "sweatshop"
> development outfits, which strive to replace quality with quantity.
> I'd agree that in a revolving door employment environment relying on
> a large number of low-competence developers such code might be seen
> as "too confusing".  But I don't see why we should set our standards
> that low here, in `comp.lang.c`.

What's interesting is that the arguments given opposing what might
be called expression-level programming have been sociological rather
than technical.

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  Re: Regarding assignment to struct Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 13:17 -0700
  Re: Regarding assignment to struct Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2025-05-02 13:35 -0700
    That depends... (Was: Regarding assignment to struct) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-05-02 20:44 +0000
      Re: That depends... (Was: Regarding assignment to struct) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-05-03 01:13 +0000
        Re: That depends... (Was: Regarding assignment to struct) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 02:28 +0000
        Re: That depends... (Was: Regarding assignment to struct) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-03 06:17 +0200
        Re: That depends... (Was: Regarding assignment to struct) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-03 04:31 +0000
          Re: That depends... (Was: Regarding assignment to struct) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-03 05:11 +0000
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          Re: That depends... (Was: Regarding assignment to struct) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-04 11:05 -0700
        Re: That depends... (Was: Regarding assignment to struct) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-03 00:47 -0400
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    Re: Regarding assignment to struct Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-05-03 01:43 +0000
  Re: Regarding assignment to struct Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> - 2025-05-03 01:14 -0700
    Re: Regarding assignment to struct Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 22:46 +0000
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    Re: Regarding assignment to struct Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 22:46 +0000
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                Re: Regarding assignment to struct Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> - 2025-05-29 05:11 -0700
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                Re: Regarding assignment to struct Andrey Tarasevich <noone@noone.net> - 2025-05-29 05:49 -0700
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