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Re: Windows version numbers (was: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6)

From	Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
Subject	Re: Windows version numbers (was: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6)
Date	2013-12-19 08:57 +0000
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On 18/12/2013 18:52, Mayayana wrote:
> | That's not all a manifest is used for.
> | It's also used to switch off/disable all the compatibility hacks that
> | newer versions of Windows have to implement for older applications.
> | This includes virtualisation so the users gets real errors when they try
> | and save in stupid location, The lying version numbers (Windows 8.1+)
> | various graphics, DirectX, and other API features.
> |
>
>    I try to just make sure things work in Win7 without
> a manifest or other extras. In the same way, I name
> my installers with "setup" to get needed permission.
> I know one is "supposed to" use a manifest, but the
> file naming works and it's a lot easier.

As a compatibility shim and may not be enabled on all machines.
Do you really want to rely on something "guessing" what you mean?
Why not be explicit, it's generally a good idea all round.

>    Lying version numbers is a new one to me, though.
> The OS version number started "lying" in Vista and

How did it start lying in Vista?

> I had to use an alternate OSV check that checks
> available APIs and checks the version of shell32.dll.
> That works. But what's the Win8.1 difference?

Windows 8.1 (6.3) reports that it is Windows 8 (6.2) unless your 
application explicitly says it knows about Windows 8.1 to fix 
applications that do screwy version checks and report unknown version as 
"Unsupported OS, please install a newer version" (As I said, 
compatibility hacks for shit developers)

-- 
Deanna Earley (dee.earley@icode.co.uk)
iCatcher Development Team
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PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-09 17:32 +0000
  Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "Farnsworth" <nospam@nospam.com> - 2013-12-09 14:37 -0500
    Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-10 08:54 +0000
      Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu> - 2013-12-10 05:13 -0500
        Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-10 10:53 +0000
          Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu> - 2013-12-10 06:05 -0500
  Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-10 09:22 +0000
    Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) - 2013-12-12 18:03 +0000
      Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-16 10:33 +0000
        Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) - 2013-12-16 18:59 +0000
          Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-17 09:04 +0000
            Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 john@jeasonNoSpam.cix.co.uk (John K.Eason) - 2013-12-17 19:16 +0000
              Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2013-12-18 05:52 +0000
              Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-12-18 10:07 -0500
                Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-18 16:22 +0000
                Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-12-18 13:52 -0500
                Re: Windows version numbers (was: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6) Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-19 08:57 +0000
                Re: Windows version numbers (was: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6) "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-12-19 09:58 -0500
                Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 GS <gs@somewhere.net> - 2013-12-18 12:10 -0500
  Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Arne Saknussemm <motz001.20.wannabet@spamgourmet.com> - 2013-12-10 11:31 +0100
    Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Arne Saknussemm <motz001.20.wannabet@spamgourmet.com> - 2013-12-10 11:32 +0100
      Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-10 10:55 +0000
        Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Arne Saknussemm <motz001.20.wannabet@spamgourmet.com> - 2013-12-10 12:30 +0100
  Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu> - 2013-12-10 06:00 -0500
    Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-10 11:37 +0000
      Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "David Youngblood" <dwy@flash.net> - 2013-12-10 06:02 -0600
        Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 Deanna Earley <dee.earley@icode.co.uk> - 2013-12-10 12:28 +0000
      Re: PBM_SETMARQUEE in VB6 "MikeD" <nobody@nowhere.edu> - 2013-12-10 07:44 -0500

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