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| From | "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.basic.visual.misc |
| Subject | Re: Can this be done with VB6 |
| Date | 2013-01-01 16:07 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <kbuu2l$r2d$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> skrev i meddelandet news:kbs7um$547$1@dont-email.me... > It all sounds sensible to me. But you say you don't > need a website. Anything else would seem unprofessional. > I wouldn't think much of a company that gives me links > to tutorials on youtube, dropbox, idrive, or whatever. > (On the other hand, I do know people who have switched > their email from info@theircomany.com to > theircompany@gmail.com.... Can't get much more tacky > than that. :) > > I think the website approach would be good with one > caveat: The videos shouldn't be too big. You'll have a > generous traffic limit, but it's still a limit. > > With a website you could also provide online help pages > that people could visit. You might even make a login page > for people to download videos directly. (I've never done > that, but it shouldn't be hard. Web hosts come with all > sorts of plugins. And PHP samples are freely available for > Unix/Linux servers. You can get on a Windows server, but > personally I prefer Unix. Despite being experienced with > VBScript I found ASP to be more than I wanted to deal > with. It's a closed community dealing with proprietary > tools, while Apache on Unix runs the rest of the world and > lots of people have provided free docs, scripts and plugins > for it.) > > So... OK... you get a domain and a host. In 2-3 days the > DNS system will update with your domain and www.ivar.com > will go to your index page. (You don't have to build a website > if you don't want to. You could just put up index.html and > put the text "www.ivar.com" on that. That would basically > serve as no website but provide a polite Web version of > "sorry wrong number".) Then you need an FTP program, > like Filezilla. It's as easy as Explorer. You log in to the server > and see your site, which is just a subfolder on an Internet- > connected computer. (I use it daily to download and read my > server logs. In fact, it's so simple that many WYSIWYG web > design programs, for people who don't understand any of this, > claim to provide "editing on the server". All they're doing is > FTP-ing the latest update with each file save.) > > Your index page goes in the top level > folder. You can create any number of subfolders and pages. > I like to keep all pages and .css files in one place and put > extra files, like images and zips, in their own folders. > Some big commercial companies actually have a folder for > each page, but I suspect that's due to automation. > Increasingly, corporate webpages are just javascript > "applets" served from a database. In any case, you can > organize things however you like, as long as you keep > your URLs straight when giving them to customers. > > For the sake of organization you might want to create a > "video" folder and an "update" folder. Then people get your > videos from www.ivar.com/video/ and they download the > 2 KB file from www.ivar.com/update/. With a 2 KB update > file there's no point even checking the date on the file. > Just download it, and design the update file to have a > version number in the first line. > > Also, create a robots.txt file in your top-level public > folder, where index.html is. In that file put the following: > > User-agent: * > Disallow: /video/ > Disallow: /update/ > > That will cause all search engine bots that respect robots.txt > to not list the content of those folders, so that you're videos > don't end up on Google. > > Also in the subfolders, put an index.html file with nothing > but a META refresh tag, so that casual visitors cannot see > a listing of the file content of the folder. > > You can also create .htaccess options if you're on Unix. > Each folder can have a .htaccess file that applies to all > sub-content. For instance, you could cause all visitors to > get a 403 access denied page when visiting /videos/ unless > they come from one or more specific IP addresses, or if > they do come from a given address. > > Lots of things are possible, but the gist of it is that > a website is no more than a public PC that allows file > sharing. The difference is that it's online and there's a > system in place for people to find the IP address of your > site by typing ivar.com into a browser. > -- > -- > "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:1FfEs.798635$g62.367273@fx06.am4... > | Hi Mayayana > | > | Thank you for you kind response. > | My situation is: > | I rent a piece of very specialised software to a few companies (All my > own > | work in VB6). I don't make much money but I (mostly) like dealing with > the > | people who use it. > | I'm a very experienced VB6 programmer but that's about as far as it > goes. > | The trouble with the software is it's very complex to use and people get > | confused on what to do. > | It basically takes info from csv, excel, mdb files, manipulates the info > and > | sends it off to other commercially available software. > | There are now over 240 forms and about 80 other objects (Usercontrols, > | classes etc) So pretty big. > | One rule that I have is that the exe should be able to run just as a > single > | file, no install required. That's why I said in the original Q about > | intrinsic to VB6 and API > | > | The help file is none existent and the only way people can get help is > to > | call me, I then sometimes take control of their PC and give on screen > demos > | of how to do what they are tying to achieve, or just talk them through > it. > | > | This is the plan: Nuts? Possible? I don't know! > | The soft ware doesn't do any of this yet. > | The app checks for a csv file (< 2kbs) on the internet, if it finds a > newer > | one than it's got then it downloads in on to the users hard drive > | The app then uses the contents of the file to configure various buttons > etc > | to make online tutorial videos available for viewing > | This way I can update the app without updating the app. If that's not to > | confusing. > | > | I'm thinking that the end user clicks a button and a video starts > playing > on > | their PC showing them how to use what ever part of the app their in. > | A couple of day ago I had a play (For the first time ever) and created a > web > | page with text on it, The app can download the html and parses the text > and > | uses that, but that amateurish approach is about as far as I can go. > | So, Where to put the text file so that the app can download an use it? > | Where to put the videos so that the app can play them. YouTube is a > | possibility but I would rather have whatever Windows Video player is on > the > | users PC to do that. > | > | I would then Like to have the facility to send files to each other via > the > | app, as in, the user clicks the 'send file to Ivar' button and a few > seconds > | later I can download that file. > | At the moment this is done with email attachments. > | > | And maybe even: the program can automatically update it's self just by > the > | user clicking the 'Update Program' Button. ( That doesn't exist yet :-) > | > | So really, I don't need a web site, I need a place where files can be > stored > | that the app can access. > | If we were on a network then no problem at all, but we (as in me and end > | users) are not. > | I'm sure this is relatively easy once I know the first steps. > | I shall now look in to Futurequest. > | > | Off I go, Any pieces of wisdom from anyone will be greatly appreciated. > | > | Ivar. > | > > One thing, you don't get a link to DropBox, you have it locally in your computer. Kind of auto-file-sharing. /Henning
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Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2012-12-30 13:55 +0000
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-30 09:45 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 GS <gs@somewhere.net> - 2012-12-30 13:54 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-30 15:19 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 GS <gs@somewhere.net> - 2012-12-30 15:37 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2012-12-30 19:33 +0100
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2012-12-30 21:18 +0000
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2012-12-31 01:32 +0100
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-30 21:45 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2012-12-31 12:36 +0000
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-31 09:37 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2013-01-01 12:34 +0000
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2013-01-01 16:07 +0100
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-01-01 11:36 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2013-01-01 17:56 +0100
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-01-01 17:16 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2013-01-02 00:35 +0100
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-01-01 20:23 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 BeeJ <spamnot@nospam.com> - 2012-12-31 16:08 -0800
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-31 20:37 -0500
Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2013-01-01 23:35 +0000
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