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Re: Can this be done with VB6

From "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
Subject Re: Can this be done with VB6
Date 2013-01-01 16:07 +0100
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"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> skrev i meddelandet 
news:kbs7um$547$1@dont-email.me...
>   It all sounds sensible to me. But you say you don't
> need a website. Anything else would seem unprofessional.
> I wouldn't think much of a company that gives me links
> to tutorials on youtube, dropbox, idrive, or whatever.
> (On the other hand, I do know people who have switched
> their email from info@theircomany.com to
> theircompany@gmail.com.... Can't get much more tacky
> than that. :)
>
>  I think the website approach would be good with one
> caveat: The videos shouldn't be too big. You'll have a
> generous traffic limit, but it's still a limit.
>
>  With a website you could also provide online help pages
> that people could visit. You might even make a login page
> for people to download videos directly. (I've never done
> that, but it shouldn't be hard. Web hosts come with all
> sorts of plugins. And PHP samples are freely available for
> Unix/Linux servers. You can get on a Windows server, but
> personally I prefer Unix. Despite being experienced with
> VBScript I found ASP to be more than I wanted to deal
> with. It's a closed community dealing with proprietary
> tools, while Apache on Unix runs the rest of the world and
> lots of people have provided free docs, scripts and plugins
> for it.)
>
>  So... OK... you get a domain and a host. In 2-3 days the
> DNS system will update with your domain and www.ivar.com
> will go to your index page. (You don't have to build a website
> if you don't want to. You could just put up index.html and
> put the text "www.ivar.com" on that. That would basically
> serve as no website but provide a polite Web version of
> "sorry wrong number".) Then you need an FTP program,
> like Filezilla. It's as easy as Explorer. You log in to the server
> and see your site, which is just a subfolder on an Internet-
> connected computer. (I use it daily to download and read my
> server logs. In fact, it's so simple that many WYSIWYG web
> design programs, for people who don't understand any of this,
> claim to provide "editing on the server". All they're doing is
> FTP-ing the latest update with each file save.)
>
>    Your index page goes in the top level
> folder. You can create any number of subfolders and pages.
> I like to keep all pages and .css files in one place and put
> extra files, like images and zips, in their own folders.
> Some big commercial companies actually have a folder for
> each page, but I suspect that's due to automation.
> Increasingly, corporate webpages are just javascript
> "applets" served from a database. In any case, you can
> organize things however you like, as long as you keep
> your URLs straight when giving them to customers.
>
>  For the sake of organization you might want to create a
> "video" folder and an "update" folder. Then people get your
> videos from www.ivar.com/video/ and they download the
> 2 KB file from www.ivar.com/update/. With a 2 KB update
> file there's no point even checking the date on the file.
> Just download it, and design the update file to have a
> version number in the first line.
>
> Also, create a robots.txt file in your top-level public
> folder, where index.html is. In that file put the following:
>
> User-agent: *
> Disallow: /video/
> Disallow: /update/
>
> That will cause all search engine bots that respect robots.txt
> to not list the content of those folders, so that you're videos
> don't end up on Google.
>
>  Also in the subfolders, put an index.html file with nothing
> but a META refresh tag, so that casual visitors cannot see
> a listing of the file content of the folder.
>
>  You can also create .htaccess options if you're on Unix.
> Each folder can have a .htaccess file that applies to all
> sub-content. For instance, you could cause all visitors to
> get a 403 access denied page when visiting /videos/ unless
> they come from one or more specific IP addresses, or if
> they do come from a given address.
>
>  Lots of things are possible, but the gist of it is that
> a website is no more than a public PC that allows file
> sharing. The difference is that it's online and there's a
> system in place for people to find the IP address of your
> site by typing ivar.com into a browser.
> -- 
> --
> "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:1FfEs.798635$g62.367273@fx06.am4...
> | Hi Mayayana
> |
> | Thank you for you kind response.
> | My situation is:
> | I rent a piece of very specialised software to a few companies (All my 
> own
> | work in VB6). I don't make much money but I (mostly) like dealing with 
> the
> | people who use it.
> | I'm a very experienced VB6 programmer but that's about as far as it 
> goes.
> | The trouble with the software is it's very complex to use and people get
> | confused on what to do.
> | It basically takes info from csv, excel, mdb files, manipulates the info
> and
> | sends it off to other commercially available software.
> | There are now over 240 forms and about 80 other objects (Usercontrols,
> | classes etc) So pretty big.
> | One rule that I have is that the exe should be able to run just as a
> single
> | file, no install required. That's why I said in the original Q about
> | intrinsic to VB6 and API
> |
> | The help file is none existent and the only way people can get help is 
> to
> | call me, I then sometimes take control of their PC and give on screen
> demos
> | of how to do what they are tying to achieve, or just talk them through 
> it.
> |
> | This is the plan: Nuts? Possible? I don't know!
> | The soft ware doesn't do any of this yet.
> | The app checks for a csv file (< 2kbs) on the internet, if it finds a
> newer
> | one than it's got then it downloads in on to the users hard drive
> | The app then uses the contents of the file to configure various buttons
> etc
> | to make online tutorial videos available for viewing
> | This way I can update the app without updating the app. If that's not to
> | confusing.
> |
> | I'm thinking that the end user clicks a button and a video starts 
> playing
> on
> | their PC showing them how to use what ever part of the app their in.
> | A couple of day ago I had a play (For the first time ever) and created a
> web
> | page with text on it, The app can download the html and parses the text
> and
> | uses that, but that amateurish approach is about as far as I can go.
> | So, Where to put the text file so that the app can download an use it?
> | Where to put the videos so that the app can play them. YouTube is a
> | possibility but I would rather have whatever Windows Video player is on
> the
> | users PC to do that.
> |
> | I would then Like to have the facility to send files to each other via 
> the
> | app, as in, the user clicks the 'send file to Ivar' button and a few
> seconds
> | later I can download that file.
> | At the moment this is done with email attachments.
> |
> | And maybe even: the program can automatically update it's self just by 
> the
> | user clicking the 'Update Program' Button. ( That doesn't exist yet :-)
> |
> | So really, I don't need a web site, I need a place where files can be
> stored
> | that the app can access.
> | If we were on a network then no problem at all, but we (as in me and end
> | users) are not.
> | I'm sure this is relatively easy once I know the first steps.
> | I shall now look in to Futurequest.
> |
> | Off I go, Any pieces of wisdom from anyone will be greatly appreciated.
> |
> | Ivar.
> |
>
>

One thing, you don't get a link to DropBox, you have it locally in your 
computer. Kind of auto-file-sharing.

/Henning


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Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2012-12-30 13:55 +0000
  Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-30 09:45 -0500
    Re: Can this be done with VB6 GS <gs@somewhere.net> - 2012-12-30 13:54 -0500
      Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-30 15:19 -0500
        Re: Can this be done with VB6 GS <gs@somewhere.net> - 2012-12-30 15:37 -0500
  Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2012-12-30 19:33 +0100
    Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2012-12-30 21:18 +0000
      Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2012-12-31 01:32 +0100
  Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-30 21:45 -0500
    Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2012-12-31 12:36 +0000
      Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-31 09:37 -0500
        Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2013-01-01 12:34 +0000
        Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2013-01-01 16:07 +0100
          Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-01-01 11:36 -0500
            Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2013-01-01 17:56 +0100
              Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-01-01 17:16 -0500
                Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2013-01-02 00:35 +0100
                Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2013-01-01 20:23 -0500
    Re: Can this be done with VB6 BeeJ <spamnot@nospam.com> - 2012-12-31 16:08 -0800
      Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-12-31 20:37 -0500
    Re: Can this be done with VB6 "Ivar" <ivar.ekstromer000@ntlworld.com> - 2013-01-01 23:35 +0000

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