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Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6

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"ralph" <nt_consulting64@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:22egka9c3ocujk12fk9uetdq7afn328b24@4ax.com>...

> On Mon, 4 May 2015 18:17:34 -0700, "Nobody in particular"
> <nobody@nowhere.INVALID> wrote:
>
>>"Michael Elliott" <melliott42@yahoo.com> wrote in message <news:648ec488-2665-493d-89a6-4ede2d90dee7@googlegroups.com>...
>>
>>> New crowd funded effort to update VB6 here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-replacement-to-visual-basic-6-ide-and-compiler
>>
>>A few of these have been started over the last 20 some odd years, but inevitably they hit some
>>snag and decide to go in a different direction or simply decide to do something different and
>>then tell everyone that they really ought to be rewriting their VB code from scratch anyway.
>>A truly cross-platform 32/64 bit Visual Basic Classic would be really nice, but I'll believe
>>it when I see it. Well, there's always Lazarus, the 32/64 bit cross-platform Delphi 4 clone.
>>
>
> Thirteen years ago, I was part of a group, very well funded backed by
> some major players, that attempted to license the VBIDE* core. We were
> met with initial stalls until running into a solid brick wall. It was
> more than MS had no interest in allowing "VB" to continue at that
> time, the basic problem was the VBIDE is made-up of many proprietary
> components - and not the least of them the "VB Runtime Engine". We
> also were faced with an internal MS battle between Office and
> Development - Office wanted ownership of "VB". Probably
> over-simplified but my impression was Office would let nothing go and
> Development had no desire to chance competing against their own
> product.
>
> Since licensing was out we investigated re-writing essentially from
> scratch - however, everything we came up with MS made it very clear
> they would consider a "copy-right violation" and would take steps to
> throttle it. Some of the objections were kind of thin - like "look &
> feel", others more substantial in terms of specific code and
> functional elements. How much they could have done, and whether we
> might have won in the end didn't mattered - none of our backers wanted
> to go there.
>
> While, I have no idea what other groups may have run into, I suspect
> it has been pretty much the same. MS is a Goliath and frankly Davids
> only win in the movies. <g>
>
> Part of the frustration, for me, is MS has everything in place to
> deliver a 32/64 bit VB with multiple enhancements practically
> overnight, any time they would choose to do so. Most of the code has
> already been prototyped. There were many features that were planned to
> be introduced in VB6 - like ability to do implementation inheritance;
> building true code libraries; .Net inter-operability; improved
> collection libraries; visual modeling / code generation; etc. - but
> all work was stopped and it was shoved out the door - MS having
> already decided to go with .Net.
>
> [*VBIDE. I am using this term, because VB is far more than just a
> language.]

So M$ was simply flat out LYING that everyone's code simply had to be
broken and rewritten completely from scratch in order to take advantage
of their new Java rip-off platform or even work at all in some future
Windows.NET. Big surprise there! I wonder if their legal beagles would
bark quite so loudly now. Unfortunately for us all, they probably would.

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New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 Michael Elliott <melliott42@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-30 05:18 -0700
  Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2015-04-30 08:44 -0400
  Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 Michael Elliott <melliott42@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-30 12:34 -0700
  Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 "Nobody in particular" <nobody@nowhere.INVALID> - 2015-05-04 18:17 -0700
    Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 ralph <nt_consulting64@yahoo.com> - 2015-05-04 22:31 -0500
      Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 "Nobody in particular" <nobody@nowhere.INVALID> - 2015-05-05 12:15 -0700
      Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2015-05-08 19:57 -0300
        Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2015-05-09 13:41 +1000
          Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2015-05-09 01:09 -0300
        Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 GS <gs@v.invalid> - 2015-05-09 05:45 -0400
          Re: New Crowd Funded Effort to Update VB6 "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2015-05-09 07:06 -0300

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