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Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you

From	Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.basic.visual.misc, microsoft.public.vb.general.discussion
Subject	Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you
Date	2012-07-28 13:46 -0600
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:43:34 -0600, Tony Toews
<ttoews@telusplanet.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:46:32 -0400, "Mayayana"
><mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>  
>>Funding of education advocacy groups in WA state,
>>in order to steer education policy, rather than funding
>>of education itself or education "research":
>>
>>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015841009_gatesadvocacy07m.html
>>
>> (In other words, wouldn't it be much better for GF to fund
>>think tanks staffed by real teachers interested in education
>>policy, rather than funding special interest groups?)
>
>But maybe teachers are too close to the problem to see solutions.
><smile>  For example 
>http://www.fmsinc.com/blog/post/Teacher-Performance-Task-Force-for-Fairfax-County-Public-Schools.aspx

BTW I should've pointed out the relevant paragraph.

An alternative paradigm: 'Teachers are the Customer'

"I've now come up with a whole new way to look at teaching.
Essentially, a teacher receives kids from upstream, trains them, and
then passes them off to their next downstream teacher. Looking at it
more like a production line, the teacher is a huge beneficiary and
victim of good and bad teaching, more than anyone else in the system
other than the student. Teachers should be empowered to define
expectations and evaluate their upstream teachers for their
performance. Done properly, this creates a positive feedback loop and
automatically addresses any unique issues within a school. After all,
doesn't every teacher want to grow and deliver the best batch of
students to their colleagues? Looking at it from this perspective, the
teachers I discussed this with all knew exactly which teachers
upstream from them they thought were good or bad overall and for
different types of student personalities. In fact, several said there
were teachers they would want or avoid sending their kids to. Wow,
wouldn't it be great to include the input of downstream teachers in a
teacher's evaluation? Isn't that an important person each teacher is
serving? I felt I made a mental breakthrough."

Tony

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[OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Farnsworth" <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-07-18 10:48 -0400
  Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2012-07-18 18:56 +0000
    Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-18 20:58 +0100
      Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2012-07-18 20:06 +0000
    Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Theo Tress" <rbk@online.de> - 2012-07-19 10:03 +0200
  Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-18 19:16 -0400
    Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2012-07-19 08:56 +0000
      Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-19 08:23 -0400
        Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2012-07-20 03:36 +0000
        Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Farnsworth" <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-07-20 04:28 -0400
          Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-20 14:12 +0100
        Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-20 08:29 -0400
          Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2012-07-20 19:20 +0000
            Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Norm Fowler <NormF4@spoof.com> - 2012-07-20 16:33 -0700
          Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Farnsworth" <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-07-25 01:43 -0400
            Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-25 08:32 -0400
              Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Farnsworth" <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-07-25 16:11 -0400
              Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2012-07-27 19:03 -0600
      Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-19 08:46 -0400
        Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Vacuum Sealed <noodnutt@gmail.com> - 2012-07-20 00:47 +1000
          Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Jeff Johnson" <i.get@enough.spam> - 2012-07-19 14:10 -0400
            Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2012-07-19 18:43 -0600
  Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Helmut_Meukel <Helmut_Meukel@bn-hof.invalid> - 2012-07-19 10:56 +0200
  Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Thorsten Albers" <gudea@gmx.de> - 2012-07-21 12:43 +0000
    Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Clive Lumb" <clumb2@gratui_en_anglais.fr.invalid> - 2012-07-24 10:07 +0200
      Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-24 10:20 +0100
        Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-24 10:58 -0300
          Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-24 10:15 -0400
            Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-24 11:36 -0300
              Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2012-07-24 12:39 -0700
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-24 17:50 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2012-07-24 14:38 -0700
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-24 20:54 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2012-07-24 16:59 -0700
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-25 07:00 +0100
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-25 10:28 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-25 15:03 +0100
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-25 11:17 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-25 18:18 +0100
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-25 14:26 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2012-07-27 18:55 -0600
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-27 21:24 -0400
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2012-07-27 21:26 -0600
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-28 09:46 -0400
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2012-07-28 13:43 -0600
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2012-07-28 13:46 -0600
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-28 17:13 -0400
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-27 22:36 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-24 22:07 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2012-07-24 18:21 -0700
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-25 10:33 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-25 10:00 -0400
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Auric__" <not.my.real@email.address> - 2012-07-25 20:14 +0000
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-25 06:52 +0100
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2012-07-25 10:31 -0700
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-25 20:19 +0100
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2012-07-25 12:41 -0700
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-24 19:27 -0400
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-24 20:51 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-07-24 22:03 -0400
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Eduardo" <mm@mm.com> - 2012-07-25 11:15 -0300
                Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you Karl E. Peterson <karl@exmvps.org> - 2012-07-24 16:51 -0700
          Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Clive Lumb" <clumb2@gratui_en_anglais.fr.invalid> - 2012-07-24 16:12 +0200
            Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2012-07-24 17:42 +0200
  Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you ReverendFuzzy <google@msbministries.org> - 2012-07-24 09:16 -0700
    Re: [OT] Windows XP and Vista No Office 2013 for you "Mike Williams" <Mike@WhiskyAndCoke.com> - 2012-07-24 18:24 +0100

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