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Re: Wikipedia

From Ivan Shmakov <oneingray@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.internet.services.wiki
Subject Re: Wikipedia
Date 2013-04-17 19:07 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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>>>>> cipher  <cipher@nospamforme.org> writes:
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov Inscribed upon the Golden Tablets of Usenet thusly:
>>>>> cipher <cipher@nospamforme.org> writes:

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[...]

 >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet> ----- Usenet is a worldwide
 >>>> distributed Internet discussion system.  -----

 >>> Anyone quoting or believing in wikipedia has already lost.

 >> Not only I've used Wikipedia (almost four of them, by this time)
 >> numerous times, -- I've even recommended my students to do the same.
 >> (For the few years I was an instructor, anyway.)

 > This probably explains why you're no longer an instructor...

	Actually, it doesn't.  (FWIW, I was never employed in such a
	capacity full-time.)

 >> It's as reliable as an encyclopedia could be these days.

 >> (And no, I'm /not/ advocating in favor of referencing /any/
 >> encyclopedia whatsoever in a scientific paper.)

 > WP is simply not accepted for *any* serious work.  Period.  It is OK
 > for grade school book reports however...

	Wikipedia is a useful source of information, and links.  Period.
	It is /not/ OK for a would-be B. Sc. not to know something in
	his or her field which's stated in the respective Wikipedia
	article.  (And, alas, I've seen the examples...)

 >> PS.  Why, I even edit Wikipedias from time to time.  Check, e. g.:

 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov
 >> http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov
 >> http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ivan_Shmakov

 > What a waste of time, contributing to a worthless endeavor such as
 > WP.

	I'm yet to see a researcher who doesn't make notes on the topics
	he or she delves into.  Integrating such a note into a Wikipedia
	article may be a worthwhile experience by itself; and, if done
	by more than one person, may be helpful to them all.

-- 
FSF associate member #7257	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Slavic

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