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Re: Splitting The Web

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IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk> writes:

> In comp.infosystems.gopher immibis <news@immibis.com> wrote:
>> On 12/22/23 18:47, Ben Collver wrote:
>>> # Splitting the Web by Ploum on 2023-08-01
>>> 
>>> But, increasingly, I feel less and less like an outsider.
>>> 
>>> It's not me. It's people living for and by advertising who are the
>>> outsiders. They are the one destroying everything they touch,
>>> including the planet. They are the sick psychos and I don't want them
>>> in my life anymore. Are we splitting from those
>>> click-conversion-funnel-obsessed weirdos? Good riddance! Have fun
>>> with them.
>>> 
>>> But if you want to jump ship, now is the time to get back to the
>>> simple web. Welcome back aboard!
>>> 
>>> From: <https://ploum.net/2023-08-01-splitting-the-web.html>
>> 
>> Cross-posting to specific communities it would interest. Original thread 
>> in comp.misc. (Is this against Usenet etiquette?)
>
>
> Personally I don't see that it is possible to split the web, the whole
> idea behind it is that you can seemlessly navigate between sites, so even
> with the best efforts and intentions, you don't really know what kind of
> site that next link click will take you to.
>
> The problem is that the technology of the modern web facilitates all of
> the problems listed above. Older technologies, like gopher and usenet, 
> due to their limited nature are unable to be harmful to their users in
> the same way.
>
> Add blockers are in a constant arms race with the add marketers, like
> youtube is punishing people who are trying to block their adverts
> currently. Why fight it?
>
> My own philosophy is to abandon the web, wherever practical to do so.
> Where I do have to interact with it (banking, shopping, bookings) I try
> to get it done and then close the browser. If I should visit a link that
> someone posts then I'll use lynx, if the site requires javascript then I
> just close it in defiance. 
>
> I make heavy use of RSS for web based information, news and sites that
> I'm interested in. Thankfully even if they don't advertise the fact
> they often have RSS feeds, the links are hidden in the page if you
> search the source.  I don't have any social media accounts, unless you
> count a linkedin profile page. I never post anything on the web and
> don't have a personal website. I have also, in the past year, returned
> to Usenet and have been trying to encourage others to do so too. Google
> is finally releasing its grip, which hopefully means that the influx of
> spam from the web will soon end:
> https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/18/google_ends_usenet_links/
I dropped LinkedIn a few years ago. As a web dev, not being on LinkedIn
is a risky move, but data brokers can take a hike. I stand by my decision.
>
>
> For me, I've chosen to invest my energy into irc, gopher and usenet,
> where communities can exist and content is created because people want
> to share some idea or interest. The technology doesn't lend itself to
> abusing its users for financial gain and that is a wonderful thing.
Don't forget BBSes! Some of them are pretty active.
>
> The web is nolonger a community space, it is a coroporate mining
> operation and it is people that are being mined.
>
> Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas as well!

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Re: Splitting The Web immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2023-12-23 11:47 +0100
  Re: Splitting The Web cr0c0d1le <nospam@nospam.org> - 2023-12-23 08:18 -0500
    Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2023-12-23 14:33 +0100
      Re: Splitting The Web Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.moc> - 2023-12-24 01:30 +0300
        Re: Splitting The Web Helmut Richter <hr.usenet@email.de> - 2023-12-24 11:38 +0100
          Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-01-03 17:18 +0100
            Re: Splitting The Web Helmut Richter <hr.usenet@email.de> - 2024-01-03 17:43 +0100
              Re: Splitting The Web Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-01-03 16:56 +0000
                Re: Splitting The Web immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-01-06 21:25 +0100
              Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-01-03 23:03 +0100
        Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-01-03 17:11 +0100
          Re: Splitting The Web cr0c0d1le <cr0c0d1le.ewlkg@8shield.net> - 2024-01-03 11:19 -0500
            Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-01-03 23:02 +0100
    Re: Splitting The Web not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2023-12-24 07:45 +1000
  Re: Splitting The Web IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk> - 2023-12-24 13:19 +0000
    Re: Splitting The Web oldernow <oldernow@dev.null> - 2023-12-26 20:34 +0000
    Re: Splitting The Web cr0c0d1le <nospam@nospam.org> - 2023-12-26 18:53 -0500
    Re: Splitting The Web immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2023-12-27 19:08 +0100
      Re: Splitting The Web Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2023-12-27 18:54 -0400
        Re: Splitting The Web cr0c0d1le <cr0c0d1le@cogeco.ca> - 2023-12-27 22:00 -0500
          Re: Splitting The Web Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2023-12-28 04:06 -0400
    Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-01-03 17:21 +0100
      Re: Splitting The Web Helmut Richter <hr.usenet@email.de> - 2024-01-03 17:51 +0100
        Re: Splitting The Web D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-01-03 23:05 +0100
      Re: Splitting The Web IanJ <SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk> - 2024-01-03 17:38 +0000
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