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Re: Splitting The Web

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On Sun, 24 Dec 2023, Anton Shepelev wrote:

>> That leaves me the problem of how to adapt since I do not
>> own a smart phone and I am paying more for certain things
>> due to my not having one.
>
> Same thing with me in Russia: discrimination against people
> without smartphones, or not wishing to clutter their
> smartphones with the "apps" of every shop the visit.
> Futhermore, I can no longer use many internet shops and do
> other things on the web wihout a phone becase of a mandatory
> 2FA or the abandonment of e-mail in favour of proprietary
> messengers and SMS for notifications and communication in
> general. Some shops have you registed in a social network
> (VK) in order to become their client!
>

Hello Anton,

Wow! It sounds like russia is even worse than my country in this case.
=( What I do is to have an american express credit card, since that
seems to be the only credit card available to me that sends 2fa through
either email or sms. All my native credit cards require apps + the
government digital ID which in turn requires a modern smart phone (don't
even think about running it on a 6 year old smart phone, won't work).

So my other solution is debit-cards which still work although many of
them are starting to move to the app + government ID.

My last and final solution is to have my wife buy things for me. ;)

> In fact, I hate the so-called loyaty programs, because they
> are about anything /but/ loyaty, and make some clients pay
> unreasonable high prices in order than other ones may pay
> lower prices, whereas the actual cost or servising a client
> does not depend on whether he participates in the so-called
> loyalty program.

Never bothered with them, and I do pay the higher price due to it. I
always wondered if there was room for starting a business that would
aggregate all programs on behalf of other people and thus "garble" the
information. Think of it as an e-commerce proxy where people pay you
cash or through bank transfer and you (and your staff) buy things online
on their behalf. The profile then built up is based on 10, 20...x
persons so won't really be useful. I assume that it is illegal but would
be a nice privacy preserving service. =)

> And what nasty a word choice!  Loyalty is unselfish
> faithfulness and commitment at the sacrifice of one's own
> interests and well-being. Getting a discount is the
> opposite.

Agreed!

Best regards, 
Daniel

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