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Re: Wireless router

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On 3/20/2013 8:43 PM, anyone wrote in response to my post:

> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:59:16 -0400, Dan Sutter wrote:
>
>> On 3/16/2013 11:22 AM, §ñühwö£f wrote:
>>> Dan Sutter wrote:
>>>> On 3/6/2013 3:19 PM, fsviatko@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>>> I need some advice on what wireless router to purchase.
>>>>>
>>>> Well...
>>>> Maybe it is a good question after all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At work, (my job), during the same time period, We have had Netgear,
>>>> Linksys and Cisco/Linksys.
>>>> Today at work, we are using a Cysco/Linksys 3200, for our WI-FI and
>>>> the customers complain almost every day that they cannot connect! So
>>>> we reboot it.
>>>>
>>> Somethings fishy. How do they authenticate with your AP? Whitelist of
>>> MAC addys? OR whut?
>>>
>>>> PS. I don't have any experience with DLINK equipment.
>>>> Dan
>>> Me neither. But I haint done heard no bad things about em neither :)
>> §ñühwö£f
>>>
>> Thank you §ñühwö£f.
>>
>> I would like to pursue your "Somethings fishy" comment from above.
>> Let me tell you the parameters:
>> 1.)	It is in the back kitchen of a restaurant.
>> 2.)	It is on a dedicated circuit breaker.
>> 3.)	It is plugged into an expensive, one socket surge protector.
>> 4.)	It is installed 6 feet from the floor of an 8 foot space, in a
>> corner on top a
>> 	small wire cornered shelf (for it's breathing space).
>> 5.)	The corner is situated so that is as close as we can get to the
>> center of the building.
>> 6.)	It is an AT&T DSL 6MB connection.
>
> Observation:
>
> If 'distance' were a problem, customers who sat nearest the kitchen would find fewer problems than those near the
> most distant wall.  Does everyone have the same level of difficulty?
>

Yes. Nobody can connect to the WI-FI frequently.

> You don't mention configuration of the WAP, how does it get its IP address?  Is the WAP otherwise configured as
> pass-through, to some controller/switch?

I Think so.
We have a DSL modem connected to a router.
The router has two other routers connected to it.
One router is our WAP, The other is our private office network.
Both second routers get their IP address from the the router connected to the modem.
See below...

>
>> We have to be PCI compliant, so that means our WI-FI network is isolated
>> from our in house network,
>
> I don't follow you on that one... What do you believe is the implication of PCI compliance and WiFi?
>
What I believe the implication of PCI Compliance is that our POS server cannot be compromised by our WI-FI users.
Just a few months ago, I called our POS MICROS techs to complain about this very same problem.
At that time, Our WI-FI router connected directly to our modem and our office network router connected to it...
so when the WI-FI failed, so did our entire office network, and so the MICROS server couldn't verify credit card
transactions without reverting to 54k modem access.

Their (our MICROS DEALER) answer was to add an additional router and the split the internet access between
our WI-FI and our office network.
But still... That D@#$%m WI-FI router fails while our office network continues to enjoy access.
That is why I consider the environment of the router.

>> yet they share the same internet connection.
>
> How are those boxes 'sharing' the same connection?  Does the other box have Network Address Translation?
>
NAT? I don't know.

>> What do you think?
>> Can routers be so sensitive to their environment?
>
> Yes, that is -possible-.  Depends on the kind and density of objects between the WAP and client, power level and
> antenna configuration on the client machine, and so on.  '...cannot connect...' suggests a setup problem.
>
There really isn't any density problem(walls, coolers, storage), but heat, cold and "oil vapor"?

>> I can tell you, that now in the cooler months, we don't even turn on the
>> heat in the back kitchen. When the waitstaff come in they complain "Man!
>> It is FREEZING back here"!
>> Although, in the summer months I can loose a few pounds. :)
>>
>> I will crosspost to:
>> 	comp.dcom.net-management
>> and
>> 	comp.dcom.net-analysis
>>
>> but they don't get a lot of traffic. (What is dcom?)
>
> shorthand for "data communication," I expect.
>
Thanks for your questions,
Dan Sutter

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Re: Wireless router Dan Sutter <dsutNOter@tcSPAM3net.com> - 2013-03-20 18:59 -0400
  Re: Wireless router anyone <ieGJnr4aQXRb!uzEL@z³> - 2013-03-21 00:43 +0000
    Re: Wireless router §ñühwö£f <snuhwolf@yahoo.com> - 2013-03-21 09:56 -0600
      Re: Wireless router, continued... Dan Sutter <dsutNOter@tcSPAM3net.com> - 2013-03-22 19:59 -0400
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      Re: Wireless router (a later follow-up) anyone <jaup@h/WSWLG{nR1³qHe> - 2013-03-25 17:53 +0000
        Re: Wireless router (a later follow-up) Dan Sutter <dsutNOter@tcSPAM3net.com> - 2013-03-25 19:12 -0400
          Re: Wireless router (a later follow-up) anyone <ieGJnr4aQXRb!uzEL@z³> - 2013-03-27 23:24 +0000
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