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Re: Satellite or cable service for local TV broadcasts?

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On 2/17/2012 11:39 PM PT, D. Stussy typed:

>>>> I don't know if this is the proper newsgroups to ask this. In a few
>>>> months, my family and I (three people) will be relocating/moving to
>>>> another house. We won't be able to get free over the air (OTA) due to
> a
>>>> small mountain/giant hill blocking transmitters for Los Angeles/L.A.
>>>> broadcasts. It is impossible to get a very high antenna (would require
> a
>>>> high rise building height with twenty floors -- 193 or more feet for
> the
>>>> local English stations in green color according to TVFool.com!). So
> that
>>>> means we will have to order cable or satellite TV for TV feeds. Since
> we
>>>> don't watch many movies and stuff (we just rent or stream), we will
>>>> still keep it simple and basic. Hopefully, cheap/low cost. Basically,
> we
>>>> want all local broadcast channels including foreign ones (asian like
>>>> Chinese).
>>>>
>>>> We are definitely ordering Time Warner Cable (TWC)'s Road Runner
>>>> Internet service since that is the only fastest and cheapest ($52.99
> per
>>>> month for standard package) since nothing else and/or good is
> available
>>>> (no DSL, no FIOS, satellite and dial-up sucks and are too slow).
...
>>> In my opinion, you should be ready to go with your choice when you move
> in
>>> BUT first be able to survey what you can actually see OTA before
> actually
>>> ordering any service (unless you want more than just OTA plus basic).
> The
>>> minidishes are currently cheaper than cable TV.
>>
>> How much cheaper? Hence trying to decide cable or satellite for
>> basic/local TV services.
>
> You'll have to visit the web sites and compare.
>
>>> I'm in the shadow of the Santa Monica Mountains/Hollywood Hills from
> the
>>> transmitters on Mounts Wilson and Lukens, but I do receive about half
> of
>>> the OTA stations over the air.  I also see San Diego more than 50% of
> the
>>> time (i.e. good weather) and sometimes can see Ensenada, BC, Mexico
>>> stations (about 15 days/year).  The furthest I ever saw (before the
> digital
>>> conversion) was WCCV 54 in Arecibo, PR during troposphere ducting about
> 15
>>> years ago.
>>
>> Not if there is a big hill/mountain blocking transmitters. Both
>> antennaweb and tvfools show yellow and red for them. Previous home
>> owners couldn't get OTA because of that. See:
>> http://i.imgur.com/q7LS4.jpg
>> http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d40330909db0c9f
>> http://i.imgur.com/KWz13.gif
>
> I've got 1200 feet of hill in my way of line of sight, and on your list, I
> can receive down to KCET, but not KCBS.  However, I do have a 57 element
> rooftop antenna.  KNBC or KTLA will probably be your weakest received major
> station without a rooftop antenna.  You're about 18.5 miles away while I'm
> 25 miles distant from the main collection of transmitters.  Good luck.

Just for kicks, what type of roof top/outdoor antenna (57 element?) does 
this house need to get the local broadcast English channels on an one 
floor house? Obviously, the antennae need to be returnable if these 
tests fail. http://i.imgur.com/LTao8.jpg for the aerial shot of the 
rooftop (note that it has a satellite dish already from previous owners).
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