Re: Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers?

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c, comp.lang.ada, comp.programming, comp.databases.xbase.fox, comp.lang.clipper
Subject	Re: Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers?
Date	2018-01-11 01:00 +0800
Organization	Hung Hom, Kowloon, Hong Kong
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On 11/1/2018 00:59, Robert Wessel wrote:
>
> Again, if you do it deterministically, you've not created true
> randomness.  If you have a way of doing non-deterministically, which
> means you have a non-deterministic input to your system, just start
> from there, and don't go through the silly exercise of simulating the
> physical motion of dice.
>
> IOW, you can't create real random dice rolls unless you have an actual
> source of true randomness to input to your dice simulation algorithm.

So there is mechanics that could never be modeled using mathematics and 
computers?

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