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  Re: Would you stop for a moment?! joel garry <joel-garry@home.com> - 2011-04-28 09:03 -0700
    Re: Would you stop for a moment?! Mladen Gogala <no@email.here.invalid> - 2011-04-28 17:58 +0000
      Re: Would you stop for a moment?! CarlosAL <miotromailcarlos@netscape.net> - 2011-04-28 23:52 -0700
        Re: Would you stop for a moment?! "Jonathan Lewis" <jonathan@jlcomp.demon.co.uk> - 2011-04-29 08:56 +0100
          Re: Would you stop for a moment?! Mladen Gogala <no@email.here.invalid> - 2011-04-29 15:50 +0000
          Re: Would you stop for a moment?! joel garry <joel-garry@home.com> - 2011-04-29 11:03 -0700
          Re: Would you stop for a moment?! John Hurley <hurleyjohnb@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-29 12:45 -0700
            Re: Would you stop for a moment?! joel garry <joel-garry@home.com> - 2011-04-29 14:27 -0700
              Re: Would you stop for a moment?! CarlosAL <miotromailcarlos@netscape.net> - 2011-05-03 00:22 -0700

#545 — Re: Would you stop for a moment?!

On Apr 28, 8:06 am, "mr.jak" <mr.jak...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Excuse me!!
> Would you stop for a moment?!
> O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
> Who has made it?
> Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!
> Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!
> It's you and the whole universe!..
> Who has made them all ?!!
> You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
> Just think for a moment.
> How are you going to be after death ?!
> Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
> these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!
> Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
> punishment?!
> Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
> Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
> It is religion of Islam.
> It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had
> been sent by.
> It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
> preached.
> Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
> Don't be emstional.
> Be rational and judge..
> Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.
> We advise you visiting :
>

Allah is a spammer?  Can't find much to praise there.  The rational
judgment is you are defiling your own bible.

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#546

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:03:54 -0700, joel garry wrote:

> Allah is a spammer?  Can't find much to praise there.  The rational
> judgment is you are defiling your own bible.

In the context of this group, I take that the meaning of the word "Allah" 
is "Larry Ellison". There is even a book with subtitle "what's the 
difference between God and Larry Ellison" which was, allegedly, divinely 
inspired. Praised be Larry Ellison!



-- 
http://mgogala.byethost5.com

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#550

>>"Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?! "

Man, working with databases along the years I've noticed this is most
commonl!! ;-)

Cheers.

Carlos.

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#551

"CarlosAL" <miotromailcarlos@netscape.net> wrote in message 
news:089dbde2-0dec-4417-b742-1aa668297564@k11g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>>>"Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?! "
>
> Man, working with databases along the years I've noticed this is most
> commonl!! ;-)
>
>

Strange, my experience is frequently the opposite to yours:
  The database has clearly evolved rather than being designed, but lots of 
people claim to be the designer.

-- 
Regards

Jonathan Lewis
http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com

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#552

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 08:56:53 +0100, Jonathan Lewis wrote:

> Strange, my experience is frequently the opposite to yours:
>   The database has clearly evolved rather than being designed, but lots
>   of
> people claim to be the designer.

I too ascribe many databases to the evolution and survival of the 
loudest, rather than being results of the intelligent design.



-- 
http://mgogala.byethost5.com

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#554

On Apr 29, 12:56 am, "Jonathan Lewis" <jonat...@jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
> "CarlosAL" <miotromailcar...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>
> news:089dbde2-0dec-4417-b742-1aa668297564@k11g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>"Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?! "
>
> > Man, working with databases along the years I've noticed this is most
> > commonl!! ;-)
>
> Strange, my experience is frequently the opposite to yours:
>   The database has clearly evolved rather than being designed, but lots of
> people claim to be the designer.
>

I just had this experience.  A dotnet fellow is working on some web
stuff which has to talk to the erp.  He ran into an error of a missing
table column, and asked the boss about it, who couldn't find the table
in the db.  Of course, the db blind 4GL has at times evolved more
quickly than the databases it accesses, then the db's catch up in
various ways, leading to similar solutions to similar problems, or
wildly different solutions to similar problems, similarly named.  In
this case, we have virtual table app-specific metadata in 10g.  So you
get bit in the nether regions, but is it a copperhead or a midland
water snake or a diamondback?

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
“I was a painter, and I got glaucoma. I was a singer, and I got throat
cancer. Thank God I’m not a gigolo.” - Steve White

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#559

Jonathan:

# Strange, my experience is frequently the opposite to yours: The
database has clearly evolved rather than being designed, but lots of
people claim to be the designer.

...

As often happens when reading something written by Jonathan I have no
clear idea if this is intended to be funny, serious, sarcastic, or
just flip.

Maybe I go off course with wondering what is intended by "The database
has clearly evolved" ...

I don't see much "designing" things ... just hurry up and code.

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#563

On Apr 29, 12:45 pm, John Hurley <hurleyjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jonathan:
>
> # Strange, my experience is frequently the opposite to yours: The
> database has clearly evolved rather than being designed, but lots of
> people claim to be the designer.
>
> ...
>
> As often happens when reading something written by Jonathan I have no
> clear idea if this is intended to be funny, serious, sarcastic, or
> just flip.
>
> Maybe I go off course with wondering what is intended by "The database
> has clearly evolved" ...
>
> I don't see much "designing" things ... just hurry up and code.

I wasn't sure either if Jonathan had misread or was being sarcastic,
but the OP clearly has no idea who the audience is here, and that
makes all the replies pretty entertaining.  If I had posted my first
thoughts, about one of my other google identities and the mother of
all ishmaelites, there would be rioting in numerous countries.  But
that's a bit more flamage than I'm up for.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
'A friend asked for a name for a Black Metal song which should be
"pure evil and soul crushing". I proposed " Oracle Expense system
form"' - tweet seen on http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216306/Oracle_Google_move_to_streamline_Java_lawsuit

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#588

On Apr 29, 11:27 pm, joel garry <joel-ga...@home.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 12:45 pm, John Hurley <hurleyjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jonathan:
>
> > # Strange, my experience is frequently the opposite to yours: The
> > database has clearly evolved rather than being designed, but lots of
> > people claim to be the designer.
>
> > ...
>
> > As often happens when reading something written by Jonathan I have no
> > clear idea if this is intended to be funny, serious, sarcastic, or
> > just flip.
>
> > Maybe I go off course with wondering what is intended by "The database
> > has clearly evolved" ...
>
> > I don't see much "designing" things ... just hurry up and code.
>
> I wasn't sure either if Jonathan had misread or was being sarcastic,
> but the OP clearly has no idea who the audience is here, and that
> makes all the replies pretty entertaining.  If I had posted my first
> thoughts, about one of my other google identities and the mother of
> all ishmaelites, there would be rioting in numerous countries.  But
> that's a bit more flamage than I'm up for.
>
> jg
> --
> @home.com is bogus.
> 'A friend asked for a name for a Black Metal song which should be
> "pure evil and soul crushing". I proposed " Oracle Expense system
> form"' - tweet seen onhttp://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216306/Oracle_Google_move_to_...

Just to make myself clear:

1.- I was joking ;-)
2.- The point was that I've seen many databases with no proper design
at all, just a bunch of modifications, one on top of another, shoddy
work, etc...
3.- I am a Darwinist ;-)

Cheers.

Carlos.

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