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Re: What do Oracle professionals think of Fabian Pascal?

Newsgroups comp.databases.oracle.misc
Date 2014-12-23 07:11 -0800
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Subject Re: What do Oracle professionals think of Fabian Pascal?
From earthbased@gmail.com

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On Saturday, August 27, 2005 5:08:35 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
> I have been visiting the site www.dbdebunk.com recently and have found
> the musings of the author interesting. Having seen some disasters in
> my time (in terms of adherence to any sort of reasonable database
> design), I agree with a lot of what he has to say. I'm not sure that I
> completely understand his constant criticism of SQL (more reading
> required maybe?).
> 
> 
> He is constantly railing against vendor extensions (which, from what
> I've read, he would see as corruptions) of the Relational Model,
> however my own thougts would be that a competent professional can say
> to himself "Right, this isn't fully compliant, but it does what I want
> quickly and easily, so I'll use it until something better comes
> along".
> 
> 
> I would be interested in the opinions of other posters in this group,
> particulary from those who have posted stuff in the past about the
> need for the data-management industry to get itself some decent
> independent standards prevalent in other industries (medical, legal,
> architecture...).
> 
> 
> 
> Paul...
> 
> 

SQL was developed independent of EF Codd's mathematical work on relational data management.  It violates many relational principles by returning non-sensical data to the naive user.  A proper query language based on relational principles would not allow non-sensical result sets.

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Re: What do Oracle professionals think of Fabian Pascal? earthbased@gmail.com - 2014-12-23 07:11 -0800
  Re: What do Oracle professionals think of Fabian Pascal? joel garry <joel-garry@home.com> - 2014-12-23 08:59 -0800

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