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| From | Derek <derek-nospam@shape-of-code.com> |
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| Subject | Re: Compilation Quotient (CQ): A Metric for the Compilation Hardness of Programming Languages |
| Date | Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:28:18 +0100 |
| Organization | Compilers Central |
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John, > [I had two other thoughts. One was that you can tell C was written when > parsing was still hard enough that you didn't want to bulk the parsers > up with semantic stuff. The other was that in the languages where it is > hard to write a valid problem, how much more likely is it that the program > actually works once you get it to compile? -John] C was created after Algol 68, whose 2-level grammar contained syntax+semantics. Algol 68 programs automatically generated from the language grammar should compile just fine. I suspect that output would be rare, because generating the code needed to produce output would be uncommon, and the path to it being the end result of a drunkards walk. C had a kind-of conventional grammar, where-as Algol 68 grammar is certainly not conventional (it might even be unique). [I never heard of any other language using VW-grammars. In C's defense, the early compilers -John]
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