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Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files

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On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 2:45:16 PM UTC-7, cvo wrote:

> I've been going through come compiler sources available online and study
> them, in particular C compilers.

One reason for the inability to use such is copyright.
But for now, I will assume that isn't the question.

> Since all of them implement the C standards headers, my assumption was that
> during the development of the compiler I cannot use the the standard headers
> coming from the host environment & C compiler, but instead I have to use my
> own standard headers I created for my compiler.

As well as I remember the early days of gcc, though I wasn't so interested
in it at the time, it was a replacement for an existing compiler,
such as the one for SunOS.

For some years, Sun had only one C compiler, distributed with SunOS,
but at some point they licensed it separately.  The compiler that came
with SunOS was only meant to be enough to compile the kernel modules
needed for sysgen.  (But I believe gcc started before this.)

In any case, at that time they used the existing SunOS (and maybe
others, but I was mostly using Sun at the time) library. Much of the
C header files have data structures (C struct) that match with
library routines.

I believe that gcc was trying to build a better optimizing
compiler, and to get people to use it over the SunOS compiler.
(Personal opinion, so anyone can disagree if they want to.)

It was only sometime later that GNU wrote their own glibc as a
replacement for the C library. Some data structures match system
calls, and so are system dependent, where others are only need
to be library internally consistent.

As for cross compilers, much of the data structures are consistent
across different architectures for the same system version, such
as 68020 SunOS and Sparc SunOS, such that the header files would
be the same, or almost the same.  (As well as I remember, Sun
keeps the system dependent ones separate, with a symbolic link
to the actual version.)

Writing the compiler first, using the existing library,
conveniently allows one to get something working earlier.

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Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files codevisio@gmail.com - 2020-03-19 05:40 -0700
  Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net> - 2020-03-20 01:34 +0100
    Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files Christopher F Clark <christopher.f.clark@compiler-resources.com> - 2020-03-20 06:21 -0400
      Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files cvo <codevisio@gmail.com> - 2020-03-20 15:52 -0700
        Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@netscape.net> - 2020-03-22 04:22 +0100
        Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files Christopher F Clark <christopher.f.clark@compiler-resources.com> - 2020-03-22 13:51 -0400
          Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files Kaz Kylheku <493-878-3164@kylheku.com> - 2020-03-23 13:49 +0000
  Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2020-03-20 10:21 +0100
  Re: Compiler bootstrapping and the standard header files gah4@u.washington.edu - 2020-03-21 15:32 -0700

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