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Re: Some problem about the elf file while generating the code for compiler

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On 6/7/2012 2:55 PM, Robert A Duff wrote:
> Jianfei Hu<hujianfei258@gmail.com>  writes:
>
>> Recently I plan to build a simple compiler by myself. When it comes to
>> elf file generation, I got a problem.
>
> You might want to side-step that problem by having your compiler
> generate assembly language as text.  And then feed that to an
> assembler.  If your purpose is to learn about compilers, then this
> allows you to learn the interesting and important stuff, while
> avoiding learning boring nitty-gritty details, such as the one you
> mentioned.

IMHO, having an assembler in the mix is a good idea regardless of
whether or not it is provided by the system, or is simply some library code.

this way, there is a good abstraction point:
compiler produces ASM;
compiler passes said ASM to the assembler.

other code can be written to pass code to the assembler, and it also
makes it easier to dump the ASM output to files to allow for easier
inspection of compiler output.


IME, it doesn't seem to necessarily add all that much to the compile
times either, but may depend some on the specifics of the assembler (for
example, my assembler is considerably faster if using single-pass
assembly and macros are disabled, ...). but, then again, the assembler
also uses things like hash-chains to lookup opcode mnemonics and similar
as well.


potentially, faster is possible by directly crafting machine code in a
compiler, but is this really worthwhile? I have doubts.

an assembler may deal with a lot of the binary encoding issues once, and
is then done with it. for direct output, this may need to be dealt with
for each and every construct.


>> You might take a look at my Linkers and Loaders book, ...
>
> Good idea in any case -- it's an excellent book.

possibly an idea, albeit admittedly I haven't actually read it.

for the original question, my thought here is that it may make sense to
keep the virtual addresses and file-offsets mapped 1:1, as IMO this
makes some things nicer in general (but can waste a little bit of space
if combined with keeping all sections page-aligned).

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Some problem about the elf file while generating the code for compiler Jianfei Hu <hujianfei258@gmail.com> - 2012-06-07 01:49 +0800
  Re: Some problem about the elf file while generating the code for compiler Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> - 2012-06-07 15:55 -0400
    Re: Some problem about the elf file while generating the code for compiler BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-06-09 10:26 -0500

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