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  [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2020-12-18 19:40 -0500
    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-19 06:44 +0000
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-12-18 22:53 -0800
        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2020-12-19 14:54 -0500
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2020-12-20 16:38 -0800
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2020-12-19 14:49 -0500
    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-19 13:04 -0800
    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2020-12-20 13:50 -0500
      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-22 07:00 -0800
        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> - 2021-01-02 14:06 -0800
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-02 16:51 -0800
        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 12:58 -0500
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-01-03 20:31 +0100
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> - 2021-01-03 11:49 -0800
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 18:36 -0500
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 19:27 -0500
              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 17:18 -0800
              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 23:26 -0500
                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 20:30 -0800
                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> - 2021-01-04 18:15 -0800
                  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 18:21 -0800
                  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 21:34 -0500
                    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> - 2021-01-04 19:10 -0800
                      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 23:02 -0500
                        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 20:54 -0800
                    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 19:54 -0800
              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk> - 2021-01-04 17:25 +0000
                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 12:36 -0500
                  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk> - 2021-01-04 22:43 +0000
                  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> - 2021-01-04 18:14 -0800
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 17:14 -0800
              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2021-01-04 21:02 +0000
                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2021-01-04 22:15 +0000
                  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 14:43 -0800
                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 14:33 -0800
                  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching arnold@hooterville.invalid (Arnold Ziffel) - 2021-01-07 10:56 +0000
                    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-07 11:50 -0800
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-01-04 07:23 +0000
              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-04 08:19 -0500
                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2021-01-05 08:16 +0000
                  Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 08:24 -0500
                    Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 20:41 +0300
                      Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 12:48 -0500
                        Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2021-01-05 19:32 +0000
                          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 14:45 -0500
                            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2021-01-06 00:09 +0300
                              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 13:18 -0800
                              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 20:47 -0500
                                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 18:19 -0800
                                Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk> - 2021-01-06 13:12 +0000
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-01-04 08:32 +0100
              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching test <test-user@nospam.example> - 2021-01-05 03:56 -0600
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-03 20:07 -0800
          Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-01-05 07:46 -0800
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 11:27 -0500
              Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 11:48 -0500
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-01-05 12:29 -0800
            Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2021-01-05 22:19 +0100

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#64295

On 1/5/21 3:16 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Go away, hypocrite. You don't even follow yourself your own scripture.

You make this claim often.  In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#64301

Rick C. Hodgin:

> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?

Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
have given you a beating or called the police.

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#64302

On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin:
> 
>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
> 
> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
> have given you a beating or called the police.

These are public forums.  It's the equivalent of a person standing on 
the street corner speaking.  You're free to pass on by.  You're not free 
to not encounter such people in public spaces.

If a person were to send you private email, that's an issue where the 
police could get involved because that would be like that person 
following you around personally and individually.

The messages I post are not directed at individuals, except in response 
to them engaging me.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#64304

On 05/01/2021 17:48, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 > On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
 >> Rick C. Hodgin:
 >>
 >>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
 >>
 >> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
 >> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
 >> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
 >> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
 >> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
 >> have given you a beating or called the police.
 >
 > These are public forums.  It's the equivalent of a person standing on
 > the street corner speaking.

No it isn't. It's the equivalent of a programming user group meeting in 
a public hall, where everyone is welcome to come and /discuss coding/ in 
some language or other, but which keeps getting interrupted by some 
religious nutter spouting his beliefs.

There are public places to do your evangelising, but this isn't it. It 
just pisses everyone off.

For example, you can try speaking on a street corner...

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#64305

On 1/5/21 2:32 PM, Bart wrote:
> On 05/01/2021 17:48, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>  > On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
>  >> Rick C. Hodgin:
>  >>
>  >>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
>  >>
>  >> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
>  >> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
>  >> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
>  >> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
>  >> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
>  >> have given you a beating or called the police.
>  >
>  > These are public forums.  It's the equivalent of a person standing on
>  > the street corner speaking.
> 
> No it isn't. It's the equivalent of a programming user group meeting in 
> a public hall, where everyone is welcome to come and /discuss coding/ in 
> some language or other, but which keeps getting interrupted by some 
> religious nutter spouting his beliefs.

Not a public hall.  It's an outdoor meeting place.  Anyone can step into 
this group and post.  It could be taken over by spammers, for example, 
who want to talk about painting.  As long as they ignored the calls of 
the regulars to stop talking about painting, and just kept talking about 
it, it would be taken over.

If these groups were moderated, then it would be like being in a public 
hall because the owner of the university or facility or whatever could 
stop in and say, "Leave" and would have standing with the police to have 
their request enforced.

> There are public places to do your evangelising, but this isn't it. It 
> just pisses everyone off.
> 
> For example, you can try speaking on a street corner...

What makes you think I don't, Bart?  I've mentioned a dozen times I talk 
about Jesus wherever I am.  I wear a hat that says "Jesus Inside" like 
the Intel logo.  I make choice in my life, sir.

-----
To be clear:  Christians walk a fine line.  We're commanded by God to 
teach people about sin, their need of salvation, about Jesus, and to 
also be in the world.

People priority on today, what their eyes see and their belly wants. 
They don't consider eternity.  But eternity is infinity:1 more important 
than the here and now because it goes on forever.

Everyone, literally every last person, who has shunned me in these 
groups, and who doesn't come to faith in Jesus Christ, is going to lash 
out at me on the day of judgment yelling at me, demanding to know why I 
didn't try harder to save their soul.

It's that fine line Christians walk.  But we remember also, the message 
isn't for those who won't be saved.  It's for those who will.  And 
believe it or not, there are people who communicate with me that they 
are moved by these posts.  It is making a difference in people's lives.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#64310

Rick C. Hodgin:

> Not a public hall.  It's an outdoor meeting place.  Anyone
> can step into this group and post.

Yes, anyone can do it, but he may not if the post is off-
topic:

   https://benpfaff.org/writings/clc/off-topic.html

Anyone can throw stones at windows, run away from
restaurants without paying, steal from supermarkets, or
whatever nasty think you imagine. There is only one
difference that I can see -- a high possibility of real
punishment. But we all know that it is only evil people that
abstain from doing wrong for fear of punishment. Normal
people abstain from it because... it is wrong. In which
category do you belong?

> If these groups were moderated, then it would be like
> being in a public hall because the owner of the university
> or facility or whatever could stop in and say, "Leave" and
> would have standing with the police to have their request
> enforced.

Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
of thug are you?

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#64311

Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> writes:
> Rick C. Hodgin:
[snip]
> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
> of thug are you?

Rick has made it abundantly clear, repeatedly over several years,
that he will continue to spam.  Please do not waste everyone else's
time arguing with him in public.  If you want to complain to him,
he posts with a valid email address.  If you want to complain *about*
him, please don't do it here.

Those who bypass my filters by replying to his spam risk having their
own posts filtered as well.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#64316

On 1/5/21 4:09 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
> of thug are you?

Anton, I can apologize to you for coming across harsh or rude or 
whatever other way you see me.  I am compassionate and care about people 
and I don't want them to be angry with me.

But consider...

What if I'm right?  What if sin exists, Jesus is real, judgment is 
coming, and the way out is through forgiveness of sin by Jesus Christ?

How much more would I have to hate you, and to be a thug to you, to NOT 
warn you about these things?  And to not warn you significantly about them?

The fact is:  Jesus is real.  Sin is real.  Judgment is coming.

These messages go forth so that you will be able to hear the warning and 
take corrective action with the course of your life.

Is the enemy of God, the anti-Christ spirit, who would label me warning 
people about coming judgment as some kind of wrong thing to do, because 
the spirit of God cries out to every human soul continually, knocking at 
the door saying, "Come to me and I will forgive you.  I will make you 
whole!"

There was a preacher who rode on horseback back in the 1800s.  A famous 
preacher from England.  He said it best:

     "If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our
      dead bodies.  And if they perish, let them perish with our arms
      wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay.  If Hell must
      be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and
      let not one go unwarned and unprayed for."

          -- C.H. Spurgeon

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/98/93/f9/9893f94336c2e20d01099c2dbdb81a37.jpg

I care about you enough to warn you.  I don't warn all the time.  I warn 
when things come up that are topical.  CHRISTmas.  This changing world. 
The coming rapture.  The preparation for the mark of the beast and 
one-world government system.

These are the things that spark me to move, because I already have a 
foundational caring for each of you in my soul.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#64317

On 1/5/2021 5:47 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 1/5/21 4:09 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
>> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
>> of thug are you?
> 
> Anton, I can apologize to you for coming across harsh or rude or 
> whatever other way you see me.  I am compassionate and care about people 
> and I don't want them to be angry with me.

Why are you apologizing for how Anton thinks about you? Condescending 
and patronizing at least?

> 
> But consider...[...]

But... dribble...

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#64319

On 06/01/2021 01:47, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> The fact is:  Jesus is real.  Sin is real.  Judgment is coming.

And Satan invented fossils, yes? Spammer?

[snip - tl;dr]

/Flibble

-- 
😎

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#64275

On 04/01/2021 00:36, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:

<snip dangerous conspiracy theories>

Rick, it is one thing to espouse your religious theories.  If you think
your particular beliefs will give you a better life, or some kind of
"life after death", that's up to you.

But do /not/ spread conspiracy theories about real-life serious matters
that are completely beyond your understanding.  Vaccines are a necessary
inconvenience - the alternative is people dying or suffering
unnecessarily from this pandemic, and they are the only way to get back
to some semblance of normality in society.

Listen to whatever crackpot internet poster and youtuber you want in
regards to your religious beliefs.  Listen to your /doctor/ for medical
advice.

Follow the advice of the appropriate health authorities on the need for
masks, testing and other precautions and preventative measures.  Follow
their advice about vaccines.

Do not encourage others to endanger their healths and the healths of
people around them on the basis of misinformation and wild conspiracy
theories.


(This is not an invitation to discussion - it is a counter to
potentially dangerous postings.  I know Rick will not read or heed
anything I post.  If anyone else feels they want to discuss vaccines and
the current pandemic seriously, my email address is valid.  Or they can
look up the WHO website, their country's health authority's website, or
talk to a doctor.)

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#64294

On 1/4/21 1:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
> On 04/01/2021 00:36, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> 
> <snip dangerous conspiracy theories>
> 
> Rick, it is one thing to espouse your religious theories.  If you think
> your particular beliefs will give you a better life, or some kind of
> "life after death", that's up to you.
> 
> But do /not/ spread conspiracy theories about real-life serious matters
> that are completely beyond your understanding.  Vaccines are a necessary
> inconvenience - the alternative is people dying or suffering
> unnecessarily from this pandemic, and they are the only way to get back
> to some semblance of normality in society.
> 
> Listen to whatever crackpot internet poster and youtuber you want in
> regards to your religious beliefs.  Listen to your /doctor/ for medical
> advice.
> 
> Follow the advice of the appropriate health authorities on the need for
> masks, testing and other precautions and preventative measures.  Follow
> their advice about vaccines.
> 
> Do not encourage others to endanger their healths and the healths of
> people around them on the basis of misinformation and wild conspiracy
> theories.
> 
> 
> (This is not an invitation to discussion - it is a counter to
> potentially dangerous postings.  I know Rick will not read or heed
> anything I post.  If anyone else feels they want to discuss vaccines and
> the current pandemic seriously, my email address is valid.  Or they can
> look up the WHO website, their country's health authority's website, or
> talk to a doctor.)
> 

How much are you being paid to concern troll?

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#64271

On 1/3/2021 9:58 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 12/22/20 10:00 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
The virus:

https://youtu.be/cCI18qAoKq4

It can mess you up man!

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#64297

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 10:58:40 AM UTC-7, rick.c...@gmail.com wrote:

> I encourage people to consider seriously the vaccine. It modifies 
> messenger RNA which ultimately changes what proteins are generated in 
> your body, which can also indirectly affect your literal DNA. 

> This is the first ever vaccine that's ever been authorized using this 
> technology. And they're distributing it to everybody world-wide. 

This vaccine is not performing CRISPR on people - that was my immediate
reaction. However, reading the CDC page here:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

shows that you are correct that the mRNA in the vaccine is... executed... in the human
body. Some immune cells are modified by it, and then, since their proteins now look
foreign, other immune cells attack them - thus producing the same result as a conventional
vaccine.

So if this works as planned (or as claimed), it is only modifying a few free-roaming cells,
and not permanently modifying the human body. However, this _is_ something of which
I was not aware.

But they're _not_ distributing it to everybody world-wide. The two mRNA vaccines,
Pfizer and Moderna, require such low temperatures to distribute that they're only being used
in developed countries. Vaccines working on different principles, such as the Astra/Zeneca
vaccine, will be the primary ones used in less-developed nations.

John Savard

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#64298

On 1/5/21 10:46 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 10:58:40 AM UTC-7, rick.c...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I encourage people to consider seriously the vaccine. It modifies
>> messenger RNA which ultimately changes what proteins are generated in
>> your body, which can also indirectly affect your literal DNA.
> 
>> This is the first ever vaccine that's ever been authorized using this
>> technology. And they're distributing it to everybody world-wide.
> 
> This vaccine is not performing CRISPR on people - that was my immediate
> reaction. However, reading the CDC page here:

We don't have enough data yet to know what the side-effects are.

Our DNA is us.  Created by God as it is on purpose for a time such as 
these (our lives here on Earth).  God didn't make mistakes.  He gave us 
our features this way and that way for a reason.

When we, in our infinite knowledge and comprehensive understanding, go 
in and start having protein generation modified by non-native mRNA ... 
it's dangerous.

We don't know what the side-effects will be, but we do know that those 
who take the mark will have painful sores break out on their bodies, so 
there is at least some POTENTIAL connection between our scientific work 
toward this new area of research and study with this vaccine (that is 
now being given to people world-wide, and may likely be mandated for all 
people to take world-wide) and something that will occur in the future.

> So if this works as planned (or as claimed), it is only modifying a few free-roaming cells,
> and not permanently modifying the human body. However, this _is_ something of which
> I was not aware.

The keyword there is here:

     So IF this works as planned....
        ^^

> But they're _not_ distributing it to everybody world-wide. The two mRNA vaccines,
> Pfizer and Moderna, require such low temperatures to distribute that they're only being used
> in developed countries. Vaccines working on different principles, such as the Astra/Zeneca
> vaccine, will be the primary ones used in less-developed nations.

Give it time.

Here are the Bible verses regarding the mark and sores.  It's one of the 
judgments against man:

     Revelation 16:2

 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+16%3A2&version=KJV;NIV

     2 And the first [angel] went, and poured out his vial upon
       the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon
       the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them
       which worshipped his image.

The whole warning of my message is:  This is brand new.  It's being 
distributed to people world-wide.  Be wary, cautious, because there are 
forces at work in this world which seek to do us harm, even often times 
unaware as they believe sincerely they are doing right, but that enemy 
presence is at work in their work, in their thoughts, in their goals, 
and can deceive even the best-meaning people to do things unaware that 
will harm others.

Be wary.  Be cautious.  And I recommend taking the vaccine after a 
period of study and research, at least beyond gestation and some growth 
minimum.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#64299

On 1/5/21 11:27 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> The whole warning of my message is:  This is brand new.  It's being 
> distributed to people world-wide.  Be wary, cautious, because there are 
> forces at work in this world which seek to do us harm, even often times 
> unaware as they believe sincerely they are doing right, but that enemy 
> presence is at work in their work, in their thoughts, in their goals, 
> and can deceive even the best-meaning people to do things unaware that 
> will harm others.

I'll give you an example of this.  There was a woman at my church with 
whom I was having issues.  I was trying to not be disruptive to myself 
or her so I gave her a wide berth on purpose.

I normally sat in a particular section at church, and she sat in a 
particular area nearby.  So, to not cause any issues, and to make peace 
between us in as much as it was in my power, I decided to move to 
another section.

I did this before church started, and I picked an area that was a ways 
away, and sat down.  It was only when the service began and the choir 
came in and sat down that I realized she was directly across the view of 
the podium from where I was sitting.

I honestly and sincerely tried to not be in that person's field of view 
or influence, and what I chose in my best assessment of the room and 
seating areas, was a place a ways away that would've been shielded by 
others from view.

But this enemy, who had been stirring up this issue between us, guided 
me (unaware to me) to sit in a place where I would basically have to 
look at this person throughout the whole sermon if I remained there.

And there two other events where something similar happened, also with 
this person in both cases.

-----
The most well-meaning individual, even those like me who are truly 
seeking after the Lord and truly seek to do what's right in His sight, 
and truly seek peace with men, reading the Bible, praying, and all that 
... the enemy can use all of us for his will if we are not constantly on 
guard, and even when we are on guard, he can use our own best traits and 
natural tendencies toward God against us.

In this world, fallen in sin, with the enemy being here, able to 
influence our flesh, influence our thoughts, give us thoughts, feelings, 
emotions that are not our own, but come into our flesh where we receive 
them and think they are our own ... it's worth being cautious on 
something so significant like a new vaccine type, especially one that is 
based on the absolute core of our flesh life, which is our DNA, and the 
mechanisms our DNA manufactures to replicate proteins.

Such things require more research.  And if it wasn't for this pandemic, 
we would not have these treatments being used on people en masse yet. 
It would be likely years off, and there would be time for study.

When the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded, I asked my mother if she 
would take the next flight.  She said she would take the 3rd flight.

I'm with my mother on this one.  I'll give it some time and take the 3rd 
flight.

-- 
Rick C. Hodgin

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#64308

On 1/5/2021 7:46 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 10:58:40 AM UTC-7, rick.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> I encourage people to consider seriously the vaccine. It modifies
>> messenger RNA which ultimately changes what proteins are generated in
>> your body, which can also indirectly affect your literal DNA.
> 
>> This is the first ever vaccine that's ever been authorized using this
>> technology. And they're distributing it to everybody world-wide.
> 
> This vaccine is not performing CRISPR on people - that was my immediate
> reaction. However, reading the CDC page here:
> 
> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html
> 
> shows that you are correct that the mRNA in the vaccine is... executed... in the human
> body. Some immune cells are modified by it, and then, since their proteins now look
> foreign, other immune cells attack them - thus producing the same result as a conventional
> vaccine.

Afaict, the mRNA vaccines directs effected cells to start producing the 
"spike" proteins of the sars-cov-2 virus. Then the body responds by 
creating antibodies.


> 
> So if this works as planned (or as claimed), it is only modifying a few free-roaming cells,
> and not permanently modifying the human body. However, this _is_ something of which
> I was not aware.
> 
> But they're _not_ distributing it to everybody world-wide. The two mRNA vaccines,
> Pfizer and Moderna, require such low temperatures to distribute that they're only being used
> in developed countries. Vaccines working on different principles, such as the Astra/Zeneca
> vaccine, will be the primary ones used in less-developed nations.
> 
> John Savard
> 

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#64312

On 05/01/2021 16:46, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 10:58:40 AM UTC-7, rick.c...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> I encourage people to consider seriously the vaccine. It modifies 
>> messenger RNA which ultimately changes what proteins are generated in 
>> your body, which can also indirectly affect your literal DNA. 
> 
>> This is the first ever vaccine that's ever been authorized using this 
>> technology. And they're distributing it to everybody world-wide. 
> 
> This vaccine is not performing CRISPR on people - that was my immediate
> reaction. 

If you know what CRISPR is, and look at how the mRNA vaccines work, you
could not possibly have come to such a conclusion.  I recommend that
when you want to know something health or science related, you read the
CDC page (or a half-decent popular science magazine) /first/, rather
than watching viral Youtube videos and whatever your auntie's friend's
cousin posted on Facebook.

> However, reading the CDC page here:
> 
> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html
> 
> shows that you are correct that the mRNA in the vaccine is... executed... in the human
> body. Some immune cells are modified by it, and then, since their proteins now look
> foreign, other immune cells attack them - thus producing the same result as a conventional
> vaccine.
> 
> So if this works as planned (or as claimed), it is only modifying a few free-roaming cells,
> and not permanently modifying the human body. However, this _is_ something of which
> I was not aware.
> 

It is /not/ "modifying" cells, or their DNA.  It works like part of a
virus.  But instead of producing new virus particles (a DNA or RNA
strand contained in a protein and lipid shell), it just produces a few
specific proteins.  These proteins are picked so that when the body's
adaptive immune system produces antibodies to them, they also match the
critical proteins on the Covid 19 virus.  This makes the antibodies more
specific and finely tuned than those produced in a Covid 19 infection,
which can match several different parts of the virus.  The idea behind
the mRNA vaccine is thus to target the important part, and therefore
work for longer and work despite mutations.

/All/ vaccines work by fooling your immune system into preparing for
battle with an enemy that is not there.  The mRNA vaccine is just one of
the many different classes of vaccine that work in somewhat different
ways to achieve the same end results.

(Incidentally, given the topic of this thread, this whole thing shows
that if humans had a "designer" then he/she/it was far from being
omniscient or perfect.  The whole body is a hack-job, a patchwork of
fixes, patches, re-builds, mismatched bits of other organisms, collected
pieces of virus DNA, and so on.  In a well designed system we'd just
download the signature of the new virus to everyone and we'd be immune
without all this fuss.)


> But they're _not_ distributing it to everybody world-wide. The two mRNA vaccines,
> Pfizer and Moderna, require such low temperatures to distribute that they're only being used
> in developed countries. Vaccines working on different principles, such as the Astra/Zeneca
> vaccine, will be the primary ones used in less-developed nations.
> 

Indeed.  But that's not because the mRNA vaccines are in any way
dangerous (no vaccine is ever 100% safe, but neither is walking out your
front door - and they are vastly safer than getting Covid).  It is a
matter of economics (the Oxford vaccine and several others are an order
of magnitude cheaper than the mRNA ones), practicality of storage and
distribution, and scale of production.

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