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Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?

Started byjgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman)
First post2024-09-13 20:51 +0100
Last post2024-09-18 17:00 +0000
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  Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-09-13 20:51 +0100
    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-13 23:18 +0000
    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-14 07:29 +0000
      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-15 00:06 +0300
        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-14 22:49 +0000
          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-15 11:22 +0300
            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-16 23:48 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-17 10:57 +0300
                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-17 19:58 +0000
                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-18 00:50 +0300
        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-15 00:42 +0000
          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-15 03:51 +0300
    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-17 23:30 +0000
      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-17 23:45 +0000
        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 00:44 +0000
          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-18 00:57 +0000
            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 01:27 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-18 13:34 +0000
                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-18 14:37 +0000
                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-18 15:50 +0000
                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-18 19:00 +0300
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-18 19:01 +0200
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-18 18:48 +0000
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-19 08:52 +0200
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 08:40 +0000
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 23:51 +0000
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-09-20 11:21 -0400
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-20 21:32 +0000
                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-20 14:54 -0700
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-20 22:11 +0000
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-21 01:12 +0000
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-20 18:43 -0700
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-21 16:23 +0000
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-21 01:48 +0000
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-20 19:28 -0700
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-20 19:32 -0700
                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2024-09-21 14:15 -0400
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-21 08:26 +0000
                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2024-09-21 14:16 -0400
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-21 16:39 +0000
                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 13:24 -0700
                                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-22 02:48 +0000
                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 21:12 -0700
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-21 13:54 +0000
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 13:26 -0700
                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-21 20:45 +0000
                                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-21 18:49 -0400
                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 20:58 -0700
                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-22 07:44 -0400
                                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 12:07 -0700
                                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Paul A. Clayton" <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 15:37 -0400
                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 12:55 -0700
                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-22 21:39 +0000
                                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-22 20:53 -0400
                                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-23 01:34 +0000
                                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-23 10:53 +0300
                                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-09-23 21:39 +0100
                                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture BGB-Alt <bohannonindustriesllc@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 16:00 -0500
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 14:32 -0700
                                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-30 03:48 +0000
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-30 05:42 +0000
                                                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 11:49 +0300
                                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-30 17:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 11:46 +0300
                                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-23 20:59 +0000
                                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 14:35 -0700
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-23 21:58 +0000
                                                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 15:19 -0700
                                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-23 22:32 +0000
                                                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 15:46 -0700
                                                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 15:47 -0700
                                                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-24 00:26 +0000
                                                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 19:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-24 03:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 20:07 -0700
                                                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 15:51 -0700
                                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2024-09-24 07:50 +0200
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 11:56 +0300
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 14:14 +0000
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2024-09-24 15:45 -0400
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-03 00:34 +0000
                                                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-10-02 17:58 -0700
                                                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-10-03 10:25 -0400
                                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 12:49 +0300
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-09-24 11:45 -0400
                                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-12 08:27 +0000
                                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> - 2024-09-23 11:33 -0400
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-21 08:25 +0000
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-21 08:24 +0000
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 13:29 -0700
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-21 23:34 +0000
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-22 02:57 +0300
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-22 02:12 +0000
                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-22 10:34 +0300
                                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 00:45 +0000
                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-23 19:44 -0700
                                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 23:43 +0000
                                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 18:32 -0700
                                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 12:37 +0300
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-09-23 16:30 -0400
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 00:46 +0000
                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 23:48 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-18 15:48 +0000
          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-18 15:40 +0000
            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-18 19:04 +0300
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-18 16:23 +0000
                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 22:54 +0000
                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-19 00:29 +0000
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 04:27 +0000
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-19 14:23 +0000
                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-19 09:01 +0200
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2024-09-19 09:26 +0200
                      Perception of lag (Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?) jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-09-19 09:00 +0100
                        Re: Perception of lag (Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?) mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-19 16:12 +0000
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-19 11:10 +0200
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2024-09-19 12:54 +0200
                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 23:40 +0000
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-20 09:14 +0200
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2024-09-20 09:55 +0200
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-20 21:33 +0000
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 13:19 -0500
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 23:46 +0000
                          Local (predictive?) echoing (was: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-09-20 10:57 -0400
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-19 16:16 +0000
                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 23:38 +0000
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-09-20 21:06 +0100
                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-20 20:17 +0000
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-20 21:39 +0000
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2024-09-21 15:39 +0200
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-21 22:58 +0300
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2024-09-21 22:42 +0200
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 17:29 -0500
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 22:06 -0500
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-22 07:18 +0000
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-22 12:46 +0200
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-09-22 02:34 -0700
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-19 16:09 +0000
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-19 20:06 +0200
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 23:37 +0000
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-20 00:58 +0000
                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-20 04:05 +0000
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Paul A. Clayton" <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2024-09-20 06:52 -0400
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-22 02:13 +0000
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-22 02:21 +0000
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-22 07:16 +0000
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-22 12:18 +0300
                                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 00:48 +0000
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-22 12:12 +0300
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-09-20 21:06 +0100
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-21 23:50 +0000
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-21 17:09 -0700
          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Paul A. Clayton" <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2024-09-22 16:58 -0400
            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-23 15:06 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-23 21:10 +0000
                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 00:34 +0300
                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-23 21:51 +0000
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 11:44 +0300
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-24 14:18 +0000
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 17:50 +0300
                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-23 22:05 +0000
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 11:51 +0300
            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 01:36 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 02:08 +0000
                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 03:41 +0000
                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 15:21 +0300
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 18:26 +0000
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-29 22:57 +0300
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-30 20:20 +0000
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-29 23:30 +0000
        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-18 05:40 +0000
          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 06:31 +0000
            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-18 20:09 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 23:47 +0000
                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2024-09-19 10:44 +0300
                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 08:43 +0000
                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2024-09-19 16:25 +0300
                      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-19 19:29 +0000
                        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-19 19:31 +0000
                          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-20 00:15 +0000
                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-20 05:46 +0000
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-20 09:37 +0200
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2024-09-20 11:18 -0400
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-20 15:21 +0000
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-20 19:10 +0200
                                  Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-22 11:56 +0300
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-23 11:44 +0000
                                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 01:05 +0000
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                            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-20 14:24 +0000
                              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-09-22 02:29 -0700
                                Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-22 18:45 +0000
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                              Re: quanta vs AI, not Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-20 00:59 +0000
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                    Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-19 16:18 +0000
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          Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-18 02:41 +0000
            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 06:45 +0000
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                Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 01:19 +0000
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                      Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-19 19:01 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 23:47 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-20 11:02 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-20 14:50 +0300
                            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-20 15:35 +0300
                            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-20 15:33 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-19 23:44 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-20 01:01 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-20 05:53 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-21 08:36 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-21 12:19 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-23 10:24 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-23 12:42 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-23 12:32 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-23 16:35 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-24 00:53 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally   unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2024-09-24 03:34 +0100
                                  Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-24 03:05 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-24 10:58 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-24 17:17 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-24 20:28 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 11:15 +0200
                                        Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 14:11 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 11:00 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-09-25 12:17 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-29 01:33 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-24 17:38 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-24 18:02 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:16 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 11:38 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-25 18:23 +0000
                                            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-25 21:39 +0200
                                              Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-25 19:57 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:14 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-25 00:12 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-11-04 09:43 +0100
                                Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-11-04 15:51 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-20 14:02 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2024-09-20 09:44 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-20 17:29 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft makes a lot of money, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2024-09-20 12:32 -0700
          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-18 10:41 +0200
            Re: Microsoft financials, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2024-09-18 20:41 +0000
              Re: Microsoft financials, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 23:43 +0000
              Re: Microsoft financials, Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-19 09:18 +0200
            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-18 20:57 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 23:45 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-09-19 09:27 +0200
      Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2024-09-17 21:57 -0700
        Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-18 06:46 +0000
          Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-18 15:51 +0000
            Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-18 16:28 +0000
              Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-18 17:00 +0000

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#108922

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2024-09-20 09:37 +0200
Message-ID<vcj8om$vupr$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#108918
On 20/09/2024 07:46, Thomas Koenig wrote:
> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>>
>>>> Quantum mechanics is high IQ bullshit to make professors look important.
>>>
>>> You need quantum mechanics to describe solid-state electronics
>>> (or all atoms, for that matter).
>>
>> Type “quantum mechanics criticism” and variants into Google and have at it.
> 
> I've read enough crackpot theories already, thank you, I don't need
> any more.

Quantum mechanics describes the rules that give structure to atoms and 
molecules.  On a larger scale, those structures build up to explain 
spherical planets.  But we know the earth is flat.  Therefore, quantum 
mechanics is bullshit.  What more evidence could you want?

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#108934

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2024-09-20 11:18 -0400
Message-ID<jwv8qvmmk6f.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org>
In reply to#108922
> But we know the earth is flat.

Don't be ridiculous.  Just look at the shape of any old shoe's sole.
It shows that the earth is evidently not flat, it's curved "upward".
The only sensible explanation is that the earth is a sphere and we live
*inside* of it.


        Stefan

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#108935

FromBrett <ggtgp@yahoo.com>
Date2024-09-20 15:21 +0000
Message-ID<vck3t7$15g2i$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#108922
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 20/09/2024 07:46, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>>> 
>>>>> Quantum mechanics is high IQ bullshit to make professors look important.
>>>> 
>>>> You need quantum mechanics to describe solid-state electronics
>>>> (or all atoms, for that matter).
>>> 
>>> Type “quantum mechanics criticism” and variants into Google and have at it.
>> 
>> I've read enough crackpot theories already, thank you, I don't need
>> any more.
> 
> Quantum mechanics describes the rules that give structure to atoms and 
> molecules.  On a larger scale, those structures build up to explain 
> spherical planets.  But we know the earth is flat.  Therefore, quantum 
> mechanics is bullshit.  What more evidence could you want?


Yup, you just explained the Einstein argument, just like I said.

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#108939

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2024-09-20 19:10 +0200
Message-ID<vckaa1$16ftr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#108935
On 20/09/2024 17:21, Brett wrote:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>> On 20/09/2024 07:46, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>>>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quantum mechanics is high IQ bullshit to make professors look important.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need quantum mechanics to describe solid-state electronics
>>>>> (or all atoms, for that matter).
>>>>
>>>> Type “quantum mechanics criticism” and variants into Google and have at it.
>>>
>>> I've read enough crackpot theories already, thank you, I don't need
>>> any more.
>>
>> Quantum mechanics describes the rules that give structure to atoms and
>> molecules.  On a larger scale, those structures build up to explain
>> spherical planets.  But we know the earth is flat.  Therefore, quantum
>> mechanics is bullshit.  What more evidence could you want?
> 
> 
> Yup, you just explained the Einstein argument, just like I said.
> 

I think you are somewhat confused.

I can't claim to understand every argument Einstein made, but I am quite 
certain he was not a flat-earther.  Nor did he think quantum mechanics 
was "bullshit" - his Nobel prize on the photoelectric effect was a 
stepping-stone in the development of the theory of quantum mechanics.

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#109041

FromMichael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Date2024-09-22 11:56 +0300
Message-ID<20240922115633.00006bce@yahoo.com>
In reply to#108935
On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:21:12 -0000 (UTC)
Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> wrote:

> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> > On 20/09/2024 07:46, Thomas Koenig wrote:  
> >> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:  
> >>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:  
> >>>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
> >>>>   
> >>>>> Quantum mechanics is high IQ bullshit to make professors look
> >>>>> important.  
> >>>> 
> >>>> You need quantum mechanics to describe solid-state electronics
> >>>> (or all atoms, for that matter).  
> >>> 
> >>> Type “quantum mechanics criticism” and variants into Google and
> >>> have at it.  
> >> 
> >> I've read enough crackpot theories already, thank you, I don't need
> >> any more.  
> > 
> > Quantum mechanics describes the rules that give structure to atoms
> > and molecules.  On a larger scale, those structures build up to
> > explain spherical planets.  But we know the earth is flat.
> > Therefore, quantum mechanics is bullshit.  What more evidence could
> > you want?  
> 
> 
> Yup, you just explained the Einstein argument, just like I said.
> 

Einstein didn't like Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. 
He didn't question the validity of equations.
It's all was in different era. Philosophical interpretations were
considered important. 
The next generations of physicists, say, those who were born 100 or
less years ago, were much less obsessed with this sort of stuff. Of
course, there are exceptions, even to this day.

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#109080

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2024-09-23 11:44 +0000
Message-ID<vcrkbd$2mr91$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109041
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> schrieb:

> Einstein didn't like Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. 
> He didn't question the validity of equations.

Or, as a physics teacher said some time ago, "Shut up and do the math"
("Halt's Maul und rechne" in the original German).

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#109132

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-09-24 01:05 +0000
Message-ID<vct393$2tic0$16@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109041
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:56:33 +0300, Michael S wrote:

> Einstein didn't like Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics.

He didn’t like quantum mechanics full stop. “God does not play dice”, he 
famously said. And kept trying to come up with an alternative, though he 
never succeeded. And remember, his 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect 
(for which he won the Nobel Prize) was one of the foundation stones of 
this horrible new theory.

“Interpretations” of quantum mechanics had nothing to do with this: the 
probabilistic behaviour that Einstein objected to is inherent in the 
equations themselves: wave function in → probability out.

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#109149

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2024-09-24 08:14 +0200
Message-ID<vctlc9$33okb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109132
On 24/09/2024 03:05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:56:33 +0300, Michael S wrote:
> 
>> Einstein didn't like Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics.
> 
> He didn’t like quantum mechanics full stop. “God does not play dice”, he
> famously said. And kept trying to come up with an alternative, though he
> never succeeded. And remember, his 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect
> (for which he won the Nobel Prize) was one of the foundation stones of
> this horrible new theory.
> 
> “Interpretations” of quantum mechanics had nothing to do with this: the
> probabilistic behaviour that Einstein objected to is inherent in the
> equations themselves: wave function in → probability out.

A lot of physicists don't like quantum mechanics, and its implications, 
and very few (if any) of them can claim to have a good intuitive feel 
for it.  It's a huge departure from the classical clockwork universe models.

But they still accept that it has turned out to be an excellent model 
for a lot of physics, standing strong test after test, and covering a 
wide range of situations to an astounding accuracy.  The same applies to 
Einstein - perhaps he thought it was a horrible theory, but he also 
thought it was correct (in the sense of being an accurate model of reality).

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#109151

FromNiklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Date2024-09-24 10:56 +0300
Message-ID<llf9l4Fs0hlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#109132
On 2024-09-24 4:05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 11:56:33 +0300, Michael S wrote:
> 
>> Einstein didn't like Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Mechanics.
> 
> He didn’t like quantum mechanics full stop. “God does not play dice”, he
> famously said. And kept trying to come up with an alternative, though he
> never succeeded. And remember, his 1905 paper on the photoelectric effect
> (for which he won the Nobel Prize) was one of the foundation stones of
> this horrible new theory.
> 
> “Interpretations” of quantum mechanics had nothing to do with this: the
> probabilistic behaviour that Einstein objected to is inherent in the
> equations themselves: wave function in → probability out.


The "probability" interpretation of the wave function is basically the 
Copenhagen interpretation of quantum. It is removed in the many-worlds 
interpretation, where every possibility happens in some world, and only 
the "weight" of that world is affected by the wave function. It comes 
back, though, because the weight of a world direcly determines how 
likely we are to be in that world and so explains why repeating the same 
experiment gives the distribution of results expected from the 
probabilistic interpretation of the wave function. (As I imperfectly 
understand it.)

It would be nice to hear Einstein's opinion about many-worlds...

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#108932

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2024-09-20 14:24 +0000
Message-ID<AAfHO.23138$5837.19479@fx35.iad>
In reply to#108910
Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> writes:
>Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>> 
>>> Quantum mechanics is high IQ bullshit to make professors look important.
>> 
>> You need quantum mechanics to describe solid-state electronics
>> (or all atoms, for that matter).
>
>
>Type “quantum mechanics criticism” and variants into Google and have at it.
>

Why should one do that?    Google indexes all kinds of cranks.

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#109044

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2024-09-22 02:29 -0700
Message-ID<86jzf4829c.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#108932
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>>
>>>> Quantum mechanics is high IQ bullshit to make professors look
>>>> important.
>>>
>>> You need quantum mechanics to describe solid-state electronics
>>> (or all atoms, for that matter).
>>
>> Type  quantum mechanics criticism   and
>> variants into Google and have at it.
>
> Why should one do that?

To discover the truly brilliant explanations at
crackpot-conspiracy-theories.com.

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#109062

FromBrett <ggtgp@yahoo.com>
Date2024-09-22 18:45 +0000
Message-ID<vcpojl$2ads5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109044
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> 
>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>>>> 
>>>>> Quantum mechanics is high IQ bullshit to make professors look
>>>>> important.
>>>> 
>>>> You need quantum mechanics to describe solid-state electronics
>>>> (or all atoms, for that matter).
>>> 
>>> Type  quantum mechanics criticism   and
>>> variants into Google and have at it.
>> 
>> Why should one do that?
> 
> To discover the truly brilliant explanations at
> crackpot-conspiracy-theories.com.

Electric Universe

https://youtu.be/UN3rwk4oD1M?si=_kREdQBQuquCat3w

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#109133

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-09-24 01:06 +0000
Message-ID<vct3av$2tic0$17@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109062
On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 18:45:09 -0000 (UTC), Brett wrote:

> Electric Universe

Electricity without magnetism? Not even taking account of Maxwell’s 
unification of the electric and magnetic fields?

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#109142

FromBrett <ggtgp@yahoo.com>
Date2024-09-24 03:17 +0000
Message-ID<vctb0s$32gol$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109133
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 18:45:09 -0000 (UTC), Brett wrote:
> 
>> Electric Universe
> 
> Electricity without magnetism? Not even taking account of Maxwell’s 
> unification of the electric and magnetic fields?


The standard theory is that there is no electricity in the universe due to
the emptiness gaps. But light creates charge, and charge attraction, and
discharge creates magnetic fields, and all of this far better explains
galactic strands than mere gravity.

Go to the youtube Electric Universe and watch the most popular videos and
select play lists that interest you.

Most of this has been known since the 1920’s, but there be dragons down
this path so down the pointless gravity black hole science has gone.

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#109143

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2024-09-23 20:30 -0700
Message-ID<vctbo2$32cko$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109142
On 9/23/2024 8:17 PM, Brett wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 18:45:09 -0000 (UTC), Brett wrote:
>>
>>> Electric Universe
>>
>> Electricity without magnetism? Not even taking account of Maxwell’s
>> unification of the electric and magnetic fields?
> 
> 
> The standard theory is that there is no electricity in the universe due to
> the emptiness gaps. But light creates charge, and charge attraction, and
> discharge creates magnetic fields, and all of this far better explains
> galactic strands than mere gravity.
> 
> Go to the youtube Electric Universe and watch the most popular videos and
> select play lists that interest you.
> 
> Most of this has been known since the 1920’s, but there be dragons down
> this path so down the pointless gravity black hole science has gone.
> 

Shit man... Are we in a black hole that resided in our parent universe? 
Humm... Always wondered about that type of shit.

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#109181

FromBrett <ggtgp@yahoo.com>
Date2024-09-24 20:21 +0000
Message-ID<vcv711$3b4hf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109143
Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/23/2024 8:17 PM, Brett wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 18:45:09 -0000 (UTC), Brett wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Electric Universe
>>> 
>>> Electricity without magnetism? Not even taking account of Maxwell’s
>>> unification of the electric and magnetic fields?
>> 
>> 
>> The standard theory is that there is no electricity in the universe due to
>> the emptiness gaps. But light creates charge, and charge attraction, and
>> discharge creates magnetic fields, and all of this far better explains
>> galactic strands than mere gravity.
>> 
>> Go to the youtube Electric Universe and watch the most popular videos and
>> select play lists that interest you.
>> 
>> Most of this has been known since the 1920’s, but there be dragons down
>> this path so down the pointless gravity black hole science has gone.
>> 
> 
> Shit man... Are we in a black hole that resided in our parent universe? 
> Humm... Always wondered about that type of shit.
> 

I am on the black holes don’t exist list, at smaller than at the center of
a galaxy.

You hear physicists talk of microscopic black holes, but the force that
keeps atoms apart is so much more powerful than gravity that such talk is
just fools playing with math they don’t understand.

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#109183

Frommitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1)
Date2024-09-24 20:33 +0000
Message-ID<80ac0be837ac857106de25ea9b82a817@www.novabbs.org>
In reply to#109181
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 20:21:53 +0000, Brett wrote:

>
> I am on the black holes don’t exist list, at smaller than at the center
> of a galaxy.
>
> You hear physicists talk of microscopic black holes, but the force that
> keeps atoms apart is so much more powerful than gravity that such talk
> is just fools playing with math they don’t understand.

Neutron stars are are collapsed forms of matter where gravity is
stronger
than the electro-magnetic fields holding the electrons away from each
other and the protons.

It is possible that there is some kind of (as yet non-understood) force
that prevent a black holes complete collapse into a point--erasing all
visible aspects other than mass, charge, and spin.

It is just that our understanding of physics does not include such a
force.

Finally note: An electron can be modeled in QCD as if it were a black
hole with the mass, charge, and spin of an electron. ...

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#109195

FromLawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2024-09-25 00:00 +0000
Message-ID<vcvjrl$3co45$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109183
On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 20:33:58 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:

> Neutron stars are are collapsed forms of matter where gravity is
> stronger than the electro-magnetic fields holding the electrons away
> from each other and the protons.

Gravity here is stronger even than the Pauli exclusion principle, which 
says that two matter particles (e.g. electrons, protons, neutrons) cannot 
occupy the same space at the same time.

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#109259

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2024-09-28 10:36 -0700
Message-ID<867cav4r4z.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#109195
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

> On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 20:33:58 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
>
>> Neutron stars are are collapsed forms of matter where gravity is
>> stronger than the electro-magnetic fields holding the electrons away
>> from each other and the protons.
>
> Gravity here is stronger even than the Pauli exclusion principle, which
> says that two matter particles (e.g. electrons, protons, neutrons) cannot
> occupy the same space at the same time.

This statement of the Pauli exclusion principle is wrong.  An
example is the two electrons of a helium atom, which occupy the same
"space" (the lowest orbital shell of the atom) as long as the helium
atom persists.

The Pauli exclusion principle doesn't apply to some matter particles
(meaning particles that have non-zero rest mass).  An example is
carrier particles of the weak force, W (and I believe there are
several kinds of W but I haven't bothered to verify that).

Also, in some situations the Pauli exclusion principle doesn't apply
to the kinds of particles it normally does apply to.  An example is
a pair of electrons in a Cooper pair, which since the electrons are
paired they act as a boson rather than a fermion and thus are not
subject to the Pauli exclusion principle (which is that two fermions
cannot occupy the same quantum state).

Note by the way that the Pauli exclusion principle is not an
independent principle but simply a consequence of the laws of
quantum mechanics as they apply to fermions.

Finally, the original statement about gravity in a neutron star
being stronger than the Pauli exclusion principle is wrong.  It is
precisely because of Pauli exclusion operating between the neutrons
that make up the neutron star that stops it from collapsing into a
black hole.  The "pressure" of Pauli exclusion is not infinite,
which means there is an upper bound on how much mass a neutron star
can have before it collapses into a black hole.  This bound, called
the Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit, is somewhere between 2 and 3
solar masses.

(Disclaimer:  all the above is to the best of my understanding;  I
am not a physicist.)

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#109282

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2024-09-29 13:51 +0200
Message-ID<vdbf06$1o0lg$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#109259
On 28/09/2024 19:36, Tim Rentsch wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> 
>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 20:33:58 +0000, MitchAlsup1 wrote:
>>
>>> Neutron stars are are collapsed forms of matter where gravity is
>>> stronger than the electro-magnetic fields holding the electrons away
>>> from each other and the protons.
>>
>> Gravity here is stronger even than the Pauli exclusion principle, which
>> says that two matter particles (e.g. electrons, protons, neutrons) cannot
>> occupy the same space at the same time.
> 
> This statement of the Pauli exclusion principle is wrong.  An
> example is the two electrons of a helium atom, which occupy the same
> "space" (the lowest orbital shell of the atom) as long as the helium
> atom persists.
> 

It was certainly over-simplifying the Pauli exclusion principle.  The 
principle applies only to fermions (particles with half-integer spin), 
and says they cannot occupy the same quantum state, rather than the 
"same space".  The two electrons in the innermost orbit of a helium atom 
must have opposite spins - then they are in different quantum states. 
If their spins were the same, they would in effect be pushed apart to 
different positions.

> The Pauli exclusion principle doesn't apply to some matter particles
> (meaning particles that have non-zero rest mass).  An example is
> carrier particles of the weak force, W (and I believe there are
> several kinds of W but I haven't bothered to verify that).

Those are bosons (Z, W+ and W-), with integer spin and so the Pauli 
exclusion principle does not apply.

> 
> Also, in some situations the Pauli exclusion principle doesn't apply
> to the kinds of particles it normally does apply to.  An example is
> a pair of electrons in a Cooper pair, which since the electrons are
> paired they act as a boson rather than a fermion and thus are not
> subject to the Pauli exclusion principle (which is that two fermions
> cannot occupy the same quantum state).

Yes.

> 
> Note by the way that the Pauli exclusion principle is not an
> independent principle but simply a consequence of the laws of
> quantum mechanics as they apply to fermions.
> 

Yes.

> Finally, the original statement about gravity in a neutron star
> being stronger than the Pauli exclusion principle is wrong.  It is
> precisely because of Pauli exclusion operating between the neutrons
> that make up the neutron star that stops it from collapsing into a
> black hole.  The "pressure" of Pauli exclusion is not infinite,
> which means there is an upper bound on how much mass a neutron star
> can have before it collapses into a black hole.  This bound, called
> the Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit, is somewhere between 2 and 3
> solar masses.
> 

If all you wrote above is just from memory, then that's pretty good for 
a non-physicist.  But if you managed to remember and spell 
"Tolman-Oppenheimer-Volkoff limit" from memory, then I am /really/ 
impressed!

> (Disclaimer:  all the above is to the best of my understanding;  I
> am not a physicist.)

Me too.

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