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| Started by | quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-03-07 00:15 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-03-31 13:11 +0000 |
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Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-07 00:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 19:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 01:14 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 18:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 01:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 13:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 15:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 05:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:28 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-13 10:24 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 22:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-14 03:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-14 14:55 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 22:55 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 22:58 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-14 23:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 01:14 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-15 08:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 17:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 23:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-15 19:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 20:56 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 20:52 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 01:34 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 03:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 05:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 14:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-05 04:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-05 14:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 17:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 19:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 19:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:34 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:45 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 21:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-04 18:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 13:46 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 01:10 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-18 05:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-01 12:29 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 01:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 02:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 02:37 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 10:01 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 11:22 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 13:58 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 05:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 05:37 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-02 15:57 +0000
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 18:21 +0000
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:31 -0700
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 20:21 +0000
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:29 +0000
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-05-03 21:06 -0400
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-05 10:12 +0200
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-05-05 11:55 -0400
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-05 21:05 +0200
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 08:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 17:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 11:05 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 20:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 13:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 18:10 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:10 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-02 15:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 09:45 -0700
Re: index registers, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 18:34 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 17:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:53 +0000
Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 22:23 +0000
Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-03 11:45 +0000
Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-03 16:27 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 18:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:26 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-04 05:45 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-05-04 20:00 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 01:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 06:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 03:33 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:15 +0000
Adressing modes (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 17:55 +0000
Re: Adressing modes (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 18:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 23:04 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-15 14:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-15 15:47 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 04:16 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 17:53 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-17 19:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 13:51 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 19:55 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 21:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-19 21:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-22 10:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-22 23:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-23 07:13 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 15:48 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 01:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 00:34 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 00:36 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 17:57 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-18 00:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-19 06:56 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:26 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-20 01:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 20:30 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-19 00:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-19 12:06 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-19 10:46 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-19 16:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-19 16:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-19 19:00 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:32 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 01:13 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 01:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-20 07:23 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-20 09:27 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 16:01 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-20 07:19 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:29 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 07:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-21 06:06 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 16:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 01:00 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-22 01:12 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 03:28 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 09:48 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-22 17:57 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-23 19:18 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-23 21:10 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-23 21:38 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-24 18:12 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 20:31 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-25 23:05 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 21:11 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-25 22:34 +0100
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-26 22:24 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 03:50 +0300
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:12 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2026-03-27 10:33 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-03-27 16:41 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:53 +0000
multi-tasking performance on one core (was: POWER trends) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:37 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-27 12:46 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-24 10:41 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-24 11:36 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 08:49 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-27 12:49 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-27 13:47 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 17:27 +0000
byte order (was: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 18:53 +0000
Power (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 08:31 +0000
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-26 20:00 +0000
Re: z, was Power (was: Concertina II Instead) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-27 01:20 +0000
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 07:21 +0000
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:07 +0000
Re: System z cpu error recovery [was Power] EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-27 09:08 -0400
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:52 +0000
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 21:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-21 19:57 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 09:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 10:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 10:12 +0000
SPARC M8 (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 16:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-24 04:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-25 11:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 13:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-03 11:47 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-04 05:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 16:38 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-06 18:58 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-07 23:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-11 15:34 +0100
x86s (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-11 16:55 +0000
Re: x86s (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:58 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 18:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-12 22:52 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 22:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-13 19:33 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-13 18:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-13 18:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-13 20:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-15 16:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-16 11:20 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-14 21:10 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-15 16:05 +0000
Re: 16 vs 32 bits, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-15 18:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 18:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-15 20:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 22:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 16:39 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-08 18:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-08 20:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-08 16:55 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-08 21:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-10 08:59 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-10 15:59 +0000
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-10 19:09 +0000
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 12:20 -0400
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-11 16:58 +0000
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:26 +0000
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-14 13:27 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-12 15:35 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-12 20:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-12 17:47 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 13:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-15 11:30 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 17:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-05-10 16:23 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-11 07:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 09:02 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-11 16:21 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-12 07:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-09 17:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-10 10:54 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-10 16:05 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-09 19:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 14:44 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 20:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-15 09:03 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 16:57 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-11 02:04 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 02:26 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 17:55 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-15 19:42 +0000
Re: emulation on the 360, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-15 20:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 20:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-17 20:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 20:28 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 00:18 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-18 17:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-23 21:10 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 17:09 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-17 21:43 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-17 22:07 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:52 -0700
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 15:01 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 16:01 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 16:56 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 18:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-18 01:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:59 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 00:21 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 11:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-23 19:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 14:36 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-23 15:52 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 17:38 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-24 11:40 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 14:35 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 13:48 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 18:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 16:33 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 01:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 18:37 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 02:47 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 18:31 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:59 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-25 23:12 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 16:29 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-26 20:29 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 03:32 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-27 12:45 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 16:54 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:56 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 14:31 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-28 11:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 13:56 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 21:38 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 20:59 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 02:21 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 04:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-28 19:23 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-28 20:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-30 03:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-30 03:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-31 12:21 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-01 07:49 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-01 19:14 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-28 08:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 14:25 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 16:13 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 18:03 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-24 19:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 17:40 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 01:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 16:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 05:20 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 18:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 21:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 17:20 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-09 02:53 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-09 03:29 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:13 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 23:46 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 00:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 08:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 15:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 09:09 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-18 01:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 16:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-19 05:13 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-20 02:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 19:29 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 16:56 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-21 04:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-01 07:58 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 14:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 04:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 05:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 07:04 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 23:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 17:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-03 14:47 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 15:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 16:28 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-03 19:48 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 20:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:03 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 23:45 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-04 13:29 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:29 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 15:40 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-04 15:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 19:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-06 23:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 14:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 14:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 15:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-07 16:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-09 01:27 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-09 02:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-12 04:40 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-12 18:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-13 19:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-13 21:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 12:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 22:31 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 15:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 04:49 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 05:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 21:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-20 17:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 02:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-04 22:53 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 23:49 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 03:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 09:38 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 13:52 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 13:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 18:34 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-05 12:43 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 14:30 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 01:16 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 16:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 16:22 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 22:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 23:31 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 04:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 03:12 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 10:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 13:23 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-07 19:32 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 14:52 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-08 19:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:03 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-08 15:15 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 23:34 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-09 17:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 15:44 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-10 01:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 21:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 01:41 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 01:45 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 07:32 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-11 13:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 19:22 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 06:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 07:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 06:55 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 12:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 12:18 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 11:22 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 16:52 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-12 18:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-11 07:28 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 13:01 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-12 10:12 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 15:51 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-13 21:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 17:07 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 18:36 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 01:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 22:50 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 05:31 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 09:07 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 00:51 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 06:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 03:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 08:30 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 14:34 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 19:05 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 14:32 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 16:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:13 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 19:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 19:30 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 02:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:22 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:14 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 16:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 16:14 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 00:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 21:24 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-15 03:32 +0100
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 11:30 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 15:48 +0200
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 13:56 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-15 14:34 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 16:25 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 17:54 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 18:48 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 14:59 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-04-15 09:52 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 19:24 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-15 20:00 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 17:27 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:45 +0200
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 13:01 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 13:16 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-15 20:28 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 20:12 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-16 05:27 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:55 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 17:39 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:19 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-17 05:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 15:36 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-15 16:44 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 17:57 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 18:22 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-15 21:15 +0000
Gate delays (was: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-17 21:38 +0000
Re: Gate delays (was: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-18 01:11 +0000
Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-18 13:01 -0400
Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-18 17:59 +0000
Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-19 14:37 -0400
Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:39 +0000
Re: Gate delays Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-18 19:23 +0000
Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-19 16:04 -0400
Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:48 +0000
Re: Gate delays Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-20 17:47 +0000
Re: Gate delays Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-04-22 00:00 -0400
Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-22 18:19 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-18 20:51 -0700
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 18:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 21:55 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-15 23:44 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:15 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:46 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-16 23:00 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 18:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-17 13:09 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 13:13 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 02:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 22:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 08:05 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 02:20 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 14:18 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-17 16:07 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 16:57 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-17 17:30 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-17 08:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-17 15:05 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 14:47 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-17 13:11 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 15:01 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 12:37 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-18 10:56 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 15:05 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-18 21:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-19 01:08 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 21:04 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-19 03:54 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-19 12:28 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-19 14:14 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-19 18:04 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-19 22:47 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-20 01:08 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-18 11:11 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-18 11:37 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-18 10:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-18 14:18 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-17 15:45 +0000
Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:33 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 22:00 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 13:19 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 17:31 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-16 19:46 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:26 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:34 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 18:39 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 20:49 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 20:35 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-16 11:35 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 11:59 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-16 16:27 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 16:31 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 17:37 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 18:06 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 18:52 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 20:09 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-17 00:12 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 00:49 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:44 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-17 00:13 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 19:08 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-17 15:55 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 19:09 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 08:45 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 01:02 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-19 12:56 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 13:35 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-19 17:50 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 19:04 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-16 19:36 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 20:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 22:05 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:04 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 17:56 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 18:01 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 10:48 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:19 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 14:30 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 16:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 17:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 20:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 00:38 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-15 17:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 19:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-15 20:23 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 16:13 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 14:31 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 17:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 19:35 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 20:24 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-12 10:45 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 12:26 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-11 17:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 19:52 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 07:11 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 04:49 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-04-07 09:20 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 14:31 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-12 19:28 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 17:01 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-03 17:34 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-03 07:53 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 16:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:58 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:27 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-25 07:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-26 11:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-26 11:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-31 00:53 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-31 13:11 +0000
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| From | quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 16:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10ph7f8$rht5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115440 |
On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 10:46:00 +0000, John Dallman wrote: > In article <20260319120653.0000778b@yahoo.com>, already5chosen@yahoo.com > (Michael S) wrote: > >> POWER9 - 2017 POWER10 - 2021 We are in 20026 now and I don't hear about >> 11. > > Announced last July, though nobody has done a wikipedia page yet: One of your links didn't display clickably in my newsreader, so I just Googled. At first, it seemed as if Power 11 was a new generation of servers, but not necessarily chips, but eventually I did find that, yes, the chips were definitely changed. The chief distinguishing feature of Power 11 is that it offers a lot more memory bandwidth. There appear to be multiple data buses coming from the chips - apparently *sixteen*. Which is a figure usually associated with things like the NEC SX-7. John Savard
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 16:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <RoVuR.93904$qW1.79704@fx20.iad> |
| In reply to | #115442 |
quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> writes: >On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 10:46:00 +0000, John Dallman wrote: >> In article <20260319120653.0000778b@yahoo.com>, already5chosen@yahoo.com >> (Michael S) wrote: >> >>> POWER9 - 2017 POWER10 - 2021 We are in 20026 now and I don't hear about >>> 11. >> >> Announced last July, though nobody has done a wikipedia page yet: > >One of your links didn't display clickably in my newsreader, so I just >Googled. At first, it seemed as if Power 11 was a new generation of >servers, but not necessarily chips, but eventually I did find that, yes, >the chips were definitely changed. > >The chief distinguishing feature of Power 11 is that it offers a lot more >memory bandwidth. There appear to be multiple data buses coming from the >chips - apparently *sixteen*. Which is a figure usually associated with >things like the NEC SX-7. Most modern high-end processor chips have multiple memory controllers, specifically to provide more memory bandwidth (particularly since most memory controllers perform best with only a single attached DIMM) as well as larger capacity. 12 isn't uncommon on high end xeons, for example. In most modern systems, they're directly attached to the internal high-speed routing infrastructure (mesh, crossbar, ring) rather than using point-to-point bus structures.
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 19:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20260319190036.00004fa0@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #115442 |
On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 16:15:36 -0000 (UTC) quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 10:46:00 +0000, John Dallman wrote: > > In article <20260319120653.0000778b@yahoo.com>, > > already5chosen@yahoo.com (Michael S) wrote: > > > >> POWER9 - 2017 POWER10 - 2021 We are in 20026 now and I don't hear > >> about 11. > > > > Announced last July, though nobody has done a wikipedia page yet: > > One of your links didn't display clickably in my newsreader, so I > just Googled. At first, it seemed as if Power 11 was a new generation > of servers, but not necessarily chips, but eventually I did find > that, yes, the chips were definitely changed. > > The chief distinguishing feature of Power 11 is that it offers a lot > more memory bandwidth. There appear to be multiple data buses coming > from the chips - apparently *sixteen*. Which is a figure usually > associated with things like the NEC SX-7. > > John Savard I don't think that # of busses was changed vs POWER10. Both 10 and 11 seem to suppoort 16 OMI buses. What is new is support for 4800 MT/s DIMMs on the other side of buffer chips. For POWER10 it was 3200 MT/s max.
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| From | MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-19 22:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1773959561-5857@newsgrouper.org> |
| In reply to | #115439 |
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> posted: > -------------------- > > SPARC died by stages. Sun couldn't afford to keep development at a > > high pitch, and the register windows did not help. Once Oracle owned > > them, the high cost of chip development caused Oracle to cancel it. > > Considering Oracle's financial situation at the time (very very good) > it does not look like they can't afford it. They just didn't see a > point. It takes cubic dollars to fund a high end design team--something like $200M/year just in development more when considering building product.
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 01:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20260320011307.00001b87@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #115452 |
On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 22:32:41 GMT MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: > Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> posted: > > > -------------------- > > > SPARC died by stages. Sun couldn't afford to keep development at a > > > high pitch, and the register windows did not help. Once Oracle > > > owned them, the high cost of chip development caused Oracle to > > > cancel it. > > > > Considering Oracle's financial situation at the time (very very > > good) it does not look like they can't afford it. They just didn't > > see a point. > > It takes cubic dollars to fund a high end design team--something > like $200M/year just in development more when considering building > product. It's Oracle of 2017 that we are talking about. Total revenues : $ 37.728 B Operating income: $ 12.710 B Net income : $ 9.335 B What is 0.2 B for such juggernaut ? Just to put things in proportion, in November 2016 Oracle pid $9.3 billion USD for Netsuit.
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| From | MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 01:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1773971021-5857@newsgrouper.org> |
| In reply to | #115454 |
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> posted: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 22:32:41 GMT > MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: > > > Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> posted: > > > > > -------------------- > > > > SPARC died by stages. Sun couldn't afford to keep development at a > > > > high pitch, and the register windows did not help. Once Oracle > > > > owned them, the high cost of chip development caused Oracle to > > > > cancel it. > > > > > > Considering Oracle's financial situation at the time (very very > > > good) it does not look like they can't afford it. They just didn't > > > see a point. > > > > It takes cubic dollars to fund a high end design team--something > > like $200M/year just in development more when considering building > > product. > > It's Oracle of 2017 that we are talking about. > Total revenues : $ 37.728 B > Operating income: $ 12.710 B > Net income : $ 9.335 B > > What is 0.2 B for such juggernaut ? It should not have been.... > Just to put things in proportion, in November 2016 Oracle pid $9.3 > billion USD for Netsuit. Fools and their money... > >
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 07:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10piskv$1cm20$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115454 |
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> schrieb: > It's Oracle of 2017 that we are talking about. > Total revenues : $ 37.728 B > Operating income: $ 12.710 B > Net income : $ 9.335 B > > What is 0.2 B for such juggernaut ? Not sure if you have ever worked for a big company... Each major project and product line is judged on its own merit. If the business case does not appear to be there, they will not spend the money. > Just to put things in proportion, in November 2016 Oracle pid $9.3 > billion USD for Netsuit. They obviously thought it made sense. Let me qualify what I wrote above. There is a saying "Where there is a will, there is a business case." Such decisions are not always rational. -- This USENET posting was made without artificial intelligence, artificial impertinence, artificial arrogance, artificial stupidity, artificial flavorings or artificial colorants.
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| From | Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 09:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jwv7br6ski3.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org> |
| In reply to | #115461 |
> They obviously thought it made sense. Let me qualify what I > wrote above. There is a saying "Where there is a will, there is a > business case." Such decisions are not always rational. There's also the well-known effect that it's harder to argue against large projects, because most arguments can be deflected on the basis either that it's negligible (if it quibbles with something "minor") or that it's based on an incomplete understanding of the project. === Stefan
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 16:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20260320160113.000064fe@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #115461 |
On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 07:23:11 -0000 (UTC) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> schrieb: > > > It's Oracle of 2017 that we are talking about. > > Total revenues : $ 37.728 B > > Operating income: $ 12.710 B > > Net income : $ 9.335 B > > > > What is 0.2 B for such juggernaut ? > > Not sure if you have ever worked for a big company... > Not big in USA or Japanese or Korean sense of the word. But in the 90s I worked few years for a company that had several thousands employees. Formally, I was not on their parlor, but in practice it it hardly mattered. > Each major project and product line is judged on its own merit. > If the business case does not appear to be there, they will > not spend the money. > > > Just to put things in proportion, in November 2016 Oracle pid $9.3 > > billion USD for Netsuit. > > They obviously thought it made sense. Let me qualify what I > wrote above. There is a saying "Where there is a will, there is a > business case." Such decisions are not always rational. I don't think that what you say contradict what say. Which is "Oracle could easily afford continued development of SPARC server CPUs, but decided that they don't want to do it".
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| From | Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 07:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <177401639243.3870.11316256852399019329@media.vsta.org> |
| In reply to | #115454 |
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes: > Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> schrieb: > > What is 0.2 B for such juggernaut ? > Each major project and product line is judged on its own merit. > If the business case does not appear to be there, they will > not spend the money. I have to imagine that the board of Oracle was looking at a chip design activity which would cost real money and play to no existing strength of the company. Then would follow: "Can we just run on chips made by somebody else?" "Yes. But--" "Thank you." Andy Valencia Home page: https://www.vsta.org/andy/ To contact me: https://www.vsta.org/contact/andy.html No AI was used in the composition of this message
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-20 17:29 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20260320172926.00005766@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #115470 |
On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 07:19:52 -0700 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> wrote: > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes: > > Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> schrieb: > > > What is 0.2 B for such juggernaut ? > > Each major project and product line is judged on its own merit. > > If the business case does not appear to be there, they will > > not spend the money. > > I have to imagine that the board of Oracle was looking at a chip > design activity which would cost real money and play to no existing > strength of the company. Then would follow: > > "Can we just run on chips made by somebody else?" > > "Yes. But--" > > "Thank you." > But after acquisition, in 2010, they did expand SPRAC design team and most likely greately improved their financing. Only 7 years later they decided to quit. As to Board, I dont believe that Ellison and Hurd really cared about their opinions. > Andy Valencia > Home page: https://www.vsta.org/andy/ > To contact me: https://www.vsta.org/contact/andy.html > No AI was used in the composition of this message
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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| Date | 2026-03-21 07:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2026Mar21.080645@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
| In reply to | #115474 |
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes: >But after acquisition, in 2010, they did expand SPRAC design team and >most likely greately improved their financing. Only 7 years later they >decided to quit. I was actually somewhat surprised that Oracle did not cancel SPARC right away. SPARC CPUs from Sun had lagged in performance for more than a decade. But at least they finally got the clock rate up and OoO execution. Looking at <https://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/sparc-m8-processor-ds-3864282.pdf>, they boast quad-issue OoO execution. The performance is still nothing to write home about: wget https://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/Snapshots/0.7.9_20260109/gforth-0.7.9_20260109.tar.xz time xz -d gforth-0.7.9_20260109.tar.xz time xz gforth-0.7.9_20260109.tar time result on a 5GHz SPARC M8 (running Solaris 11.4): real 0m0.504s user 0m0.403s sys 0m0.066s real 0m7.721s user 0m7.664s sys 0m0.054s time result on a 5GHz Ryzen 8700G: real 0m0.160s user 0m0.140s sys 0m0.020s real 0m3.149s user 0m3.121s sys 0m0.028s Admittedly a Ryzen 1800X (from 2017) or Intel Kaby Lake (from 2017) will be slower than the 8700G, but I expect them to still be faster than the SPARC M8 (from 2017). Here's another one: ./gforth-fast -i kernl32b.fi startup.fs onebench.fs #on SPARC ./gforth-fast onebench.fs #on AMD64 sieve bubble matrix fib fft 0.312 0.277 0.136 0.353 0.195 5GHz SPARC M8 0.020 0.020 0.012 0.030 0.012 5GHz Ryzen 8700G More than a factor of 10 for each benchmark. My guess is that the M8 has deficiencies in indirect-branch prediction. Did Gforth disasble its optimizations on SPARC? : squared dup * ; ok see-code squared <squared> dup 1->2 0xfeeab718: mov %i5, %l6 <squared+$4> * 2->1 0xfeeab71c: smul %i5, %l6, %i5 <squared+$8> ;s 1->1 0xfeeab720: ld [ %i2 ], %i0 0xfeeab724: add %i2, 4, %i2 0xfeeab728: ld [ %i0 ], %g1 0xfeeab72c: jmp %g1 0xfeeab730: nop Looks perfectly fine; for comparison: <squared> dup 1->2 7F3592470E60: mov r15,r13 <squared+$8> * 2->1 7F3592470E63: imul r13,r15 <squared+$10> ;s 1->1 7F3592470E67: mov rbx,[r14] 7F3592470E6A: add r14,$08 7F3592470E6E: mov rax,[rbx] 7F3592470E71: jmp eax And I expect that in the decades of even larger performace disadvantages for Sun's and Oracle SPARCs enough customers had jumped ship or at least decided to jump ship at the next opportunity that by 2017 not enough SPARC business was left to pay for its continued development. So eventually, what had killed general-purpose MIPS, Alpha, HPPA, and (contemporaneously with SPARC) IA-64 also killed SPARC: High development costs of these architectures supported by not enough customer interest, due to customers defecting to Linux on Intel/AMD. Interesting that Power and S390x still persevere. For S390x I expect that the customers are not price-sensitive, and lots of legacy code in assembly language tied to some proprietary OS makes porting extra-hard and extra-risky. For Power, maybe the AS/400 customers are in a similar position. For MIPS, HPPA and SPARC there were lots of Unix customers for whom the jump to Linux was not that hard. For Alpha the VMS customer base apparently was not captured with enough ties to sustain Alpha (or later IA-64). - anton -- 'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.' Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>
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| From | Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-21 06:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10pm54c$2f669$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115484 |
On 3/21/2026 12:06 AM, Anton Ertl wrote: snipped a lot of detailed performance data > And I expect that in the decades of even larger performace > disadvantages for Sun's and Oracle SPARCs enough customers had jumped > ship or at least decided to jump ship at the next opportunity that by > 2017 not enough SPARC business was left to pay for its continued > development. > > So eventually, what had killed general-purpose MIPS, Alpha, HPPA, and > (contemporaneously with SPARC) IA-64 also killed SPARC: High > development costs of these architectures supported by not enough > customer interest, due to customers defecting to Linux on Intel/AMD. I think that analysis is generally correct. > Interesting that Power and S390x still persevere. For S390x I expect > that the customers are not price-sensitive, and lots of legacy code in > assembly language tied to some proprietary OS makes porting extra-hard > and extra-risky. Sort of. Even if the application code is in a HLL, it can be, and on S/390 often is, tied to some proprietary software. For the highest performance systems, that software is the OS, namely TPF (previously called ACP - Airline Control Program). For the vast majority of S/390 users it is either a database such as IMS, or a transaction system such as CICS. > For Power, maybe the AS/400 customers are in a > similar position. No, actually the opposite position. AS/400 user code uses a very high level system (i.e. no user assembly code) that provides much of the work and is proprietary to IBM. While that system could be, and was, ported to a different architecture (e.g. from S/38 to Power), of course, IBM has no incentive to port it to a generic platform. Without that high level system, porting user code would essentially be impossible. > For MIPS, HPPA and SPARC there were lots of Unix > customers for whom the jump to Linux was not that hard. For Alpha the > VMS customer base apparently was not captured with enough ties to > sustain Alpha (or later IA-64). Agreed. -- - Stephen Fuld (e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)
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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| Date | 2026-03-21 16:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2026Mar21.172115@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
| In reply to | #115485 |
Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes: >On 3/21/2026 12:06 AM, Anton Ertl wrote: >> For Power, maybe the AS/400 customers are in a >> similar position. > >No, actually the opposite position. AS/400 user code uses a very high >level system (i.e. no user assembly code) that provides much of the work >and is proprietary to IBM. While that system could be, and was, ported >to a different architecture (e.g. from S/38 to Power), of course, IBM >has no incentive to port it to a generic platform. That's an interesting statement. IBM could implement AS/400 on AMD64 machines (AFAIK it uses some extra bit for tagging on their enhanced Power, but I am sure that an implementation on ARM A64 with top-byte ignore and on AMD64 with similar freatures (don't remember the name) would not incur too much overhead, if any). That would save them the cost of continuing Power development. So they probably think that they can charge AS/400 enough extra for running on Power, that it more than makes up for the development costs of Power. Why would AS/400 customers be willing to do that? My guess is that the different architecture is successfully sold as a "secret sauce" to them that justifies charging that much extra. Conversely, if they just were given hardware with ARM, Intel or AMD CPUs and the AS/400 (followon) OS, they would balk at the prices that IBM charges them, even if IBM reduces these prices by their share in Power development costs. - anton -- 'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.' Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-22 01:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20260322010005.00006df2@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #115488 |
On Sat, 21 Mar 2026 16:21:15 GMT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote: > Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> writes: > >On 3/21/2026 12:06 AM, Anton Ertl wrote: > >> For Power, maybe the AS/400 customers are in a > >> similar position. > > > >No, actually the opposite position. AS/400 user code uses a very > >high level system (i.e. no user assembly code) that provides much of > >the work and is proprietary to IBM. While that system could be, and > >was, ported to a different architecture (e.g. from S/38 to Power), > >of course, IBM has no incentive to port it to a generic platform. > > That's an interesting statement. IBM could implement AS/400 on AMD64 > machines (AFAIK it uses some extra bit for tagging on their enhanced > Power, but I am sure that an implementation on ARM A64 with top-byte > ignore and on AMD64 with similar freatures (don't remember the name) > would not incur too much overhead, if any). That would save them the > cost of continuing Power development. > > So they probably think that they can charge AS/400 enough extra for > running on Power, that it more than makes up for the development costs > of Power. Why would AS/400 customers be willing to do that? My guess > is that the different architecture is successfully sold as a "secret > sauce" to them that justifies charging that much extra. Conversely, > if they just were given hardware with ARM, Intel or AMD CPUs and the > AS/400 (followon) OS, they would balk at the prices that IBM charges > them, even if IBM reduces these prices by their share in Power > development costs. > > - anton I am not sure that I follow your logic. Is it based on assumption that System i constitutes a bulk of IBM POWER income? I somehow think that it is does not.
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-22 01:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead |
| Message-ID | <10pnfmq$2c4a$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #115496 |
According to Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>: >> That's an interesting statement. IBM could implement AS/400 on AMD64 >> machines ... That's probably true, give or take the fact that AS/400 and i are big endian and AMD is little endian. POWER swings both ways, big endian for i and little endian for p running AIX or linux. >> So they probably think that they can charge AS/400 enough extra for >> running on Power, that it more than makes up for the development costs >> of Power. Why would AS/400 customers be willing to do that? ... >I am not sure that I follow your logic. >Is it based on assumption that System i constitutes a bulk of IBM POWER >income? I somehow think that it is does not. IBM does not say, but I would think that most POWER machines are running i. If you want a linux server, there are a lot of alternatives, mostly less expensive. If you want i, you get it from IBM. They're not mutually exclusive. Recent i systems have a mode that can run linux code, and POWER has a virtual machine hypervisor than can run i and p virtual machines at on the same system. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-22 03:28 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead |
| Message-ID | <20260322032836.00007be8@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #115499 |
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 01:12:58 -0000 (UTC) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > According to Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>: > >> That's an interesting statement. IBM could implement AS/400 on > >> AMD64 machines ... > Not that I disagreee with the content, but the quote above is not mine. It is written by Anton Ertle. > That's probably true, give or take the fact that AS/400 and i are big > endian and AMD is little endian. POWER swings both ways, big endian > for i and little endian for p running AIX or linux. > > >> So they probably think that they can charge AS/400 enough extra for > >> running on Power, that it more than makes up for the development > >> costs of Power. Why would AS/400 customers be willing to do that? > >> ... > > >I am not sure that I follow your logic. > >Is it based on assumption that System i constitutes a bulk of IBM > >POWER income? I somehow think that it is does not. > > IBM does not say, but I would think that most POWER machines are > running i. I have no data, but if it was the case then why IBM would bother with providing anything except the smallest POWER box? Even the smallest box is probably huge overkill for i. > If you want a linux server, there are a lot of > alternatives, mostly less expensive. POWER tries to minimize software licensing expenses. Including by playing dirty game of calling something that for most practical purposes is a dual-core or quad-core cluster "a core". > If you want i, you get it from > IBM. > > They're not mutually exclusive. Recent i systems have a mode that can > run linux code, and POWER has a virtual machine hypervisor than can > run i and p virtual machines at on the same system. >
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| From | anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) |
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| Date | 2026-03-22 09:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead |
| Message-ID | <2026Mar22.104854@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> |
| In reply to | #115500 |
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes: >On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 01:12:58 -0000 (UTC) >John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >> IBM does not say, but I would think that most POWER machines are >> running i. > >I have no data, but if it was the case then why IBM would bother with >providing anything except the smallest POWER box? >Even the smallest box is probably huge overkill for i. I don't know anybody who uses System i, so I speculate: if they did not stop writing software for that system decades ago, I would be surprised if the software did not make use of additional hardware capacity, as software tends to do. I certainly expect that IBM provides software goodies that work better on the bigger machines. And the customers might actually see an increasing use over the years of the software that is running on top of System i, also resulting in increased loads. - anton -- 'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.' Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-22 17:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead |
| Message-ID | <10ppaig$hmt$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #115505 |
According to Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>: >Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes: >>On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 01:12:58 -0000 (UTC) >>John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >>> IBM does not say, but I would think that most POWER machines are >>> running i. >> >>I have no data, but if it was the case then why IBM would bother with >>providing anything except the smallest POWER box? >>Even the smallest box is probably huge overkill for i. > >I don't know anybody who uses System i, so I speculate: if they did >not stop writing software for that system decades ago, I would be >surprised if the software did not make use of additional hardware >capacity, as software tends to do. ... Remember that i "binary" software is actually TIMI virtual machine code. Whenever you move it to a different physical machine it retranslates the TIMI into native code, so I'd expect it to use whatever the hardware has. IBM is actively developing i with new versions with new features, now with the magic ingredient AI. Start here https://www.ibm.com/products/ibm-i then scroll down to the client stories section. There's some significant applications running there. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-23 19:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead |
| Message-ID | <10ps3mp$dqhi$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115500 |
On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 03:28:36 +0200, Michael S wrote: > POWER tries to minimize software licensing expenses. > Including by playing dirty game of calling something that for most > practical purposes is a dual-core or quad-core cluster "a core". I'm a bit puzzled. Why would IBM design their PowerPC chips so as to cheat themselves? But then there was the famous lawsuit against AMD because in some of their older chips, two cores shared one vector unit. John Savard
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