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| Started by | quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> |
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| First post | 2026-03-07 00:15 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-03-31 13:11 +0000 |
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Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-07 00:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 19:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 01:14 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 18:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 01:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 13:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 15:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 05:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:28 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-13 10:24 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 22:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-14 03:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-14 14:55 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 22:55 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 22:58 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-14 23:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 01:14 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-15 08:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 17:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 23:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-15 19:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 20:56 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 20:52 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 01:34 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 03:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 05:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 14:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-05 04:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-05 14:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 17:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 19:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 19:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:34 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:45 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 21:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-04 18:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 13:46 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 01:10 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-18 05:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-01 12:29 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 01:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 02:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 02:37 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 10:01 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 11:22 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 13:58 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 05:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 05:37 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-02 15:57 +0000
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 18:21 +0000
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:31 -0700
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 20:21 +0000
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:29 +0000
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-05-03 21:06 -0400
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-05 10:12 +0200
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-05-05 11:55 -0400
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-05 21:05 +0200
Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 08:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 17:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 11:05 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 20:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 13:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 18:10 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:10 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-02 15:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 09:45 -0700
Re: index registers, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 18:34 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 17:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:53 +0000
Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 22:23 +0000
Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-03 11:45 +0000
Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-03 16:27 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 18:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:26 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-04 05:45 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-05-04 20:00 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 01:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 06:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 03:33 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:15 +0000
Adressing modes (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 17:55 +0000
Re: Adressing modes (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 18:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 23:04 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-15 14:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-15 15:47 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 04:16 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 17:53 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-17 19:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 13:51 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 19:55 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 21:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-19 21:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-22 10:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-22 23:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-23 07:13 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 15:48 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 01:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 00:34 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 00:36 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 17:57 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-18 00:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-19 06:56 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:26 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-20 01:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 20:30 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-19 00:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-19 12:06 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-19 10:46 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-19 16:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-19 16:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-19 19:00 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:32 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 01:13 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 01:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-20 07:23 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-20 09:27 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 16:01 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-20 07:19 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:29 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 07:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-21 06:06 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 16:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 01:00 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-22 01:12 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 03:28 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 09:48 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-22 17:57 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-23 19:18 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-23 21:10 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-23 21:38 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-24 18:12 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 20:31 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-25 23:05 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 21:11 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-25 22:34 +0100
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-26 22:24 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 03:50 +0300
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:12 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2026-03-27 10:33 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-03-27 16:41 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:53 +0000
multi-tasking performance on one core (was: POWER trends) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:37 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-27 12:46 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-24 10:41 +0200
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-24 11:36 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 08:49 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-27 12:49 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-27 13:47 +0000
Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 17:27 +0000
byte order (was: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 18:53 +0000
Power (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 08:31 +0000
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-26 20:00 +0000
Re: z, was Power (was: Concertina II Instead) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-27 01:20 +0000
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 07:21 +0000
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:07 +0000
Re: System z cpu error recovery [was Power] EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-27 09:08 -0400
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:52 +0000
Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 21:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-21 19:57 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 09:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 10:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 10:12 +0000
SPARC M8 (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 16:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-24 04:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-25 11:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 13:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-03 11:47 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-04 05:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 16:38 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-06 18:58 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-07 23:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-11 15:34 +0100
x86s (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-11 16:55 +0000
Re: x86s (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:58 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 18:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-12 22:52 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 22:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-13 19:33 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-13 18:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-13 18:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-13 20:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-15 16:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-16 11:20 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-14 21:10 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-15 16:05 +0000
Re: 16 vs 32 bits, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-15 18:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 18:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-15 20:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 22:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 16:39 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-08 18:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-08 20:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-08 16:55 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-08 21:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-10 08:59 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-10 15:59 +0000
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-10 19:09 +0000
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 12:20 -0400
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-11 16:58 +0000
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:26 +0000
Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-14 13:27 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-12 15:35 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-12 20:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-12 17:47 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 13:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-15 11:30 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 17:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-05-10 16:23 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-11 07:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 09:02 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-11 16:21 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-12 07:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-09 17:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-10 10:54 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-10 16:05 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-09 19:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 14:44 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 20:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-15 09:03 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 16:57 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-11 02:04 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 02:26 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 17:55 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-15 19:42 +0000
Re: emulation on the 360, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-15 20:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 20:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-17 20:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 20:28 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 00:18 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-18 17:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-23 21:10 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 17:09 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-17 21:43 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-17 22:07 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:52 -0700
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 15:01 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 16:01 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 16:56 +0000
Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 18:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-18 01:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:59 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 00:21 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 11:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-23 19:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 14:36 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-23 15:52 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 17:38 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-24 11:40 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 14:35 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 13:48 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 18:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 16:33 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 01:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 18:37 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 02:47 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 18:31 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:59 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-25 23:12 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 16:29 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-26 20:29 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 03:32 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-27 12:45 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 16:54 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:56 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 14:31 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-28 11:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 13:56 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 21:38 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 20:59 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 02:21 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 04:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-28 19:23 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-28 20:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-30 03:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-30 03:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-31 12:21 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-01 07:49 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-01 19:14 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-28 08:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 14:25 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 16:13 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 18:03 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-24 19:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 17:40 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 01:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 16:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 05:20 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 18:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 21:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 17:20 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-09 02:53 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-09 03:29 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:13 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 23:46 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 00:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 08:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 15:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 09:09 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-18 01:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 16:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-19 05:13 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-20 02:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 19:29 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 16:56 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-21 04:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-01 07:58 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 14:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 04:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 05:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 07:04 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 23:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 17:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-03 14:47 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 15:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 16:28 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-03 19:48 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 20:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:03 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 23:45 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-04 13:29 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:29 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 15:40 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-04 15:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 19:36 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-06 23:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 14:20 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 14:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 15:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-07 16:59 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:25 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-09 01:27 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-09 02:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-12 04:40 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-12 18:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-13 19:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-13 21:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 12:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 22:31 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 15:12 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 04:49 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 05:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 21:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-20 17:17 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 02:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-04 22:53 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 23:49 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 03:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 09:38 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 13:52 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 13:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 18:34 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-05 12:43 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 14:30 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 01:16 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 16:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 16:22 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 22:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 23:31 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 04:48 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 03:12 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 10:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 13:23 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-07 19:32 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 14:52 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-08 19:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:03 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-08 15:15 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 23:34 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-09 17:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 15:44 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-10 01:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 21:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 01:41 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 01:45 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 07:32 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-11 13:41 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 19:22 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 06:42 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 07:24 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 06:55 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 12:33 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 12:18 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 11:22 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 16:52 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-12 18:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-11 07:28 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 13:01 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-12 10:12 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 15:51 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-13 21:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 17:07 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 18:36 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 01:19 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 22:50 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 05:31 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 09:07 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 00:51 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 06:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 03:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 08:30 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 14:34 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 19:05 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 14:32 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 16:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:13 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 19:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 19:30 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 02:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:22 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:14 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 16:35 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 16:14 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 00:44 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 21:24 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-15 03:32 +0100
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 11:30 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 15:48 +0200
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 13:56 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-15 14:34 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 16:25 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 17:54 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 18:48 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 14:59 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-04-15 09:52 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 19:24 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-15 20:00 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 17:27 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:45 +0200
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 13:01 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 13:16 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-15 20:28 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 20:12 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-16 05:27 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:55 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 17:39 +0000
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:19 -0700
Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-17 05:37 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 15:36 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-15 16:44 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 17:57 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 18:22 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-15 21:15 +0000
Gate delays (was: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-17 21:38 +0000
Re: Gate delays (was: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-18 01:11 +0000
Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-18 13:01 -0400
Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-18 17:59 +0000
Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-19 14:37 -0400
Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:39 +0000
Re: Gate delays Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-18 19:23 +0000
Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-19 16:04 -0400
Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:48 +0000
Re: Gate delays Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-20 17:47 +0000
Re: Gate delays Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-04-22 00:00 -0400
Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-22 18:19 +0000
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-18 20:51 -0700
Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 18:18 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 21:55 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-15 23:44 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:15 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:46 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-16 23:00 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 18:53 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-17 13:09 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 13:13 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 02:06 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 22:09 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 08:05 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 02:20 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 14:18 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-17 16:07 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 16:57 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-17 17:30 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-17 08:51 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-17 15:05 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 14:47 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-17 13:11 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 15:01 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 12:37 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-18 10:56 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 15:05 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-18 21:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-19 01:08 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 21:04 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-19 03:54 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-19 12:28 +0300
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-19 14:14 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-19 18:04 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-19 22:47 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-20 01:08 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-18 11:11 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-18 11:37 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-18 10:08 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-18 14:18 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-17 15:45 +0000
Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:33 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 22:00 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 13:19 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 17:31 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-16 19:46 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:26 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:34 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 18:39 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 20:49 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 20:35 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-16 11:35 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 11:59 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-16 16:27 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 16:31 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 17:37 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 18:06 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-16 18:52 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-16 20:09 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-17 00:12 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 00:49 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:44 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-17 00:13 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 19:08 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-17 15:55 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 19:09 -0700
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 08:45 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 01:02 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-19 12:56 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 13:35 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-19 17:50 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-19 19:04 +0000
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-16 19:36 +0200
Re: Gun control (Was Re: Concertina II Instead) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 20:22 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 22:05 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:04 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 17:56 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 18:01 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 10:48 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:19 +0200
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 14:30 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 16:21 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 17:09 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:15 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 20:11 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 00:38 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-15 17:43 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 19:07 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-15 20:23 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 16:13 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 14:31 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 17:54 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 19:35 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 20:24 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-12 10:45 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 12:26 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-11 17:47 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 19:52 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 07:11 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 04:49 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-04-07 09:20 -0400
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 14:31 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-12 19:28 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 17:01 -0500
Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-03 17:34 +0100
Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-03 07:53 -0700
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 16:00 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 14:58 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:27 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-25 07:50 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-26 11:02 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-26 11:16 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-31 00:53 +0000
Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-31 13:11 +0000
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| From | BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-04-14 16:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10rmant$edpq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115895 |
On 4/14/2026 11:35 AM, Thomas Koenig wrote: > BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> schrieb: >> On 4/14/2026 1:00 AM, Thomas Koenig wrote: >>> BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>> On 4/13/2026 8:19 PM, MitchAlsup wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> posted: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2026-04-13 5:11 p.m., Thomas Koenig wrote: >>>>>>> BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> schrieb: >>>>> --------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Socket wrench? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Socket wrenches come in weird sizes like 1/2, 1/4 inch, but metric is >>>>>> used nowadays. >>>>> >>>>> Socket wrenches go as small as step sizes of 1/64 and 0.25mm >>>>> Smaller than step sizes of 1/32 are rare, with 1/16 quite common. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, somehow I would have thought pretty much everyone would be >>>> familiar with them and with the system of fractions for defining sizes >>>> for things... >>> >>> Look at my e-mail address and consider which countries use >>> which measuring system. For your amusement, you can also watch >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqfVE-fykk :-) >>> >> >> So Germany doesn't also use SAE for screws and bolts?... > > Not sure what SAE prescribes. Is that Imperial? Germany (like > almost everybody else) use ISO, which is metric. An M6 screw, > for example, has a nominal outer diameter of 6 mm. Screw heads > are also ISO. > Mostly it defines everything in inch-based units. An M6 is roughly around the size of what we would call 1/4-20, for 1/4 inch at 20 turns per inch. > >> Or, have the same thing of building machines where half the screws are >> SAE and half are Metric. > > You will be hard pressed to find inch-based screws and bolts in > the EU, this is entirely metric. The only exception is Withworth > threads, which are still used for piping in houses. Of course, > these only bear a passing resemblance to their nominal diameter > because of $REASONS. > US has NPT, which has tapered threads, and differs from its stated size by a factor of 2 because apparently they describe its size in radius or something. > >> If not, are hex-head bolts still dominant, or is it like places where in >> the US one would use a hex-head bolt or Allen-key screw they use Torx or >> similar?... > > Really depends on the application. Screws come in a variety of heads. > For bolts, hexagonal is dominant. > OK. In US it is mostly hex-heads for bolts, and Philips for small screws (followed by Allen keys). >> Then again, I guess if anything I would expect things like machines to >> be similar, as most of the machines are presumably still made in China, >> and it would be weird to expect China to make different stuff based on >> what country they intend to sell it in. > > I believe China looked around for their standards a few decades ago, > and decided to base theirs on DIN (the German one). > OK. Still seems like a lot of the stuff they sell to the US uses US sizes, so maybe it is market dependent. >> But, then again, I have heard there are sometimes issues, like a lot of >> Chinese-made machines use copper-clad-aluminum wire, which is apparently >> illegal in places like Australia, ... >> >> >> Well, and I guess in the US, there are a lot of people who don't approve >> of aluminum and CCA wiring, but generally still allowed (though CCA is >> kinda annoying to solder as it can often foul up the tip on the >> soldering iron and/or form an amalgam with the solder which can't really >> be re-melted when if forms). > > I don't think aluminium wiring is allowed in Germany. I have certainly > never seen it, also not in old houses. > Here, it is one of those "allowed but some people get pissy about it" things when used for house wiring. Frequently used in consumer electronics but no one notices. I once encountered a wire that when voltage caused a spark to form, the wire went off like a "4th of July" sparkler (basically, a metal stick used for a US holiday, when the end is lit of fire, it burns and shoots white-hot sparks out the end, *1). At first I thought it was CCA, but apparently it was CCAM (Copper Clad Aluminum-Magnesium). The CCAM wiring is probably the main stuff people actually need to worry about. Though, AFAIK, pretty much no use uses magnesium for house wiring though. *1: Where, the US has a holiday where the main traditional way of celebrating the holiday is to let kids play around with low grade explosives and incendiaries. People have still been injured or killed as a result of this, particularly when doing "something stupid". Like, by themselves, their explosive powers aren't much of a problem, but when contained in something like a beer bottle, or inserted into someone's rectum or similar, the danger goes up significantly. Apparently this sort of thing is a recurring problem. Well, and then there are people that celebrate by firing guns into the air, but falling bullets can also pose a safety risk. Sometimes, people have guns that are full auto. These are not usually legal to have, but if one hears full-auto / rapid fire going off, then it is an indication that someone nearby has one (and gunfire and machine guns can be heard over a fair distance). Well, also people firing shotguns and similar into the air is also popular. This sort of thing is also popular on New Years Eve, but almost exclusively gunfire in this case (fireworks are mostly a "4th of July" thing). Depends a lot on the holiday though (say, would be rather out of place on Christmas or Easter). Maybe this isn't as much of a thing elsewhere though... >> But, yeah, I guess it is also sort of like in video games the units are >> more ad-hoc, just whatever is most convenient at the time. >> >> >> Though, in a lot of my 3D engines, this has been to use the meter as the >> base unit, but then define an "inch" as 1/32 of a meter; then just be >> like "whatever, close enough". Apparently fairly close to the old French >> Inch though. > > An inch is 25.4 mm, 1m/32 is 31.25 mm, that is a rather big > deviation. But then again, pi equals 3 for small values of pi > and large values of 3... > Yes. In 3D gaming stuff, accuracy doesn't really matter, so long as things are "in the right general area". If using meters as a base unit, can put eye level at around 1.6 or 1.7 off the ground, as this is "about right" (1.8 is too tall and 1.4 is too short), ... >> In some cases, can make sense to have a cubit as 1/2 "meter", or "foot" >> as 1/3. >> >> >>>> But, can't make too many assumptions it seems. >>> >>> I was thrown off by the measurements in inches. >>> >> >> OK. >> >> We have mm stuff as well, but it is less commonly used than inch stuff. >> >> Tools and CNC machines pretty much exclusively use inches though. > > Not so long ago, I was standing in a workshop in the US and asking > for a caliper in mm. They had one, but it took them some time to > find it :-) > Yeah, makes sense. Most of them are inch based. > [...] >
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| From | MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 00:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1776213860-5857@newsgrouper.org> |
| In reply to | #115911 |
BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> posted:
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> Sometimes, people have guns that are full auto. These are not usually
> legal to have,
If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
record}
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| From | BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-14 21:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10rmssa$jlf1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115914 |
On 4/14/2026 7:44 PM, MitchAlsup wrote:
>
> BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> posted:
> ----------------------
>> Sometimes, people have guns that are full auto. These are not usually
>> legal to have,
>
> If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
> tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
> months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
>
> One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
> to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
> any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
> record}
You can get forms to legally have them...
But, a person who has the sense to do the paperwork to have it legally,
would probably also have the sense to not "mag dump" into the air on 4th
of July and New Years...
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| From | moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 03:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #115914 |
On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>
> If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
> tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
> months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
>
> One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
> to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
> any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
> record}
Anyone with a non-USAn brain would say this is utterly insane.
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Bill F.
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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 11:30 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10rnss9$t8c$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #115916 |
In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>>
>> If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
>> tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
>> months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
>>
>> One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
>> to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
>> any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
>> record}
>
>Anyone with a non-USAn brain would say this is utterly insane.
As someone who has used, maintained, and fired a number of fully
automatic weapons in the military, I wonder why anyone would
want one.
Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
to fixed defensive positions.
- Dan C.
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 15:48 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10ro506$qsu2$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115922 |
On 15/04/2026 13:30, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>>>
>>> If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
>>> tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
>>> months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
>>>
>>> One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
>>> to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
>>> any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
>>> record}
>>
>> Anyone with a non-USAn brain would say this is utterly insane.
>
> As someone who has used, maintained, and fired a number of fully
> automatic weapons in the military, I wonder why anyone would
> want one.
>
> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
> to fixed defensive positions.
>
Clearly there are military applications of a wide range of weapons. But
outside that, I can only think of a couple of reasons to want a fully
automatic weapon :
1. You are seriously paranoid or otherwise disconnected from reality,
and think you need it because "they" are out to get you, or because you
are convinced you need it for "protection". (This "protection" myth
seems to be a major reason for all sorts of weapons in the USA. You or
your family are far more likely to be accidentally harmed by a gun
bought for "protection" than by an intruder's gun.)
2. You think it will be fun to shoot, or looks cool on TV (and you can't
distinguish between television and reality). I can appreciate the fun
appeal of shooting big guns, but it would make far more sense in very
controlled circumstances in specialised shooting ranges than for private
citizens ever having such weapons.
3. You are a criminal and are using it for armed robbery and the like.
The other two main uses of firearms - sport and hunting - don't apply to
fully automatic weapons.
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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 13:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10ro5dq$1f4$3@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #115923 |
In article <10ro506$qsu2$2@dont-email.me>,
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>On 15/04/2026 13:30, Dan Cross wrote:
>> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
>> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
>>>> tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
>>>> months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
>>>>
>>>> One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
>>>> to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
>>>> any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
>>>> record}
>>>
>>> Anyone with a non-USAn brain would say this is utterly insane.
>>
>> As someone who has used, maintained, and fired a number of fully
>> automatic weapons in the military, I wonder why anyone would
>> want one.
>>
>> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
>> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
>> to fixed defensive positions.
>
>Clearly there are military applications of a wide range of weapons. But
>outside that, I can only think of a couple of reasons to want a fully
>automatic weapon :
>
>1. You are seriously paranoid or otherwise disconnected from reality,
>and think you need it because "they" are out to get you, or because you
>are convinced you need it for "protection". (This "protection" myth
>seems to be a major reason for all sorts of weapons in the USA. You or
>your family are far more likely to be accidentally harmed by a gun
>bought for "protection" than by an intruder's gun.)
>
>2. You think it will be fun to shoot, or looks cool on TV (and you can't
>distinguish between television and reality). I can appreciate the fun
>appeal of shooting big guns, but it would make far more sense in very
>controlled circumstances in specialised shooting ranges than for private
>citizens ever having such weapons.
>
>3. You are a criminal and are using it for armed robbery and the like.
>
>The other two main uses of firearms - sport and hunting - don't apply to
>fully automatic weapons.
Agreed on all points. In all cases, the desire doesn't match
well to the actual utility of the thing.
- Dan C.
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 14:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <SlNDR.276690$4wI6.88606@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #115923 |
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: >On 15/04/2026 13:30, Dan Cross wrote: >> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>, >> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote: <snip> >> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as >> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach >> to fixed defensive positions. They're also extremely expensive to use and maintain. at $2.00 or more _per round_, the cost rises rapidly. Mythbusters shot a minigun on a couple episodes and the ammo cost (more than a decade ago) was huge.
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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 16:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10roe5a$mt1$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #115927 |
In article <SlNDR.276690$4wI6.88606@fx24.iad>, Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote: >David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: >>On 15/04/2026 13:30, Dan Cross wrote: >>> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>, >>> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote: > > <snip> > >>> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as >>> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach >>> to fixed defensive positions. > >They're also extremely expensive to use and maintain. at $2.00 or >more _per round_, the cost rises rapidly. Full-auto weapons are also heavy, and so is the ammo. Carrying even a SAW is no fun after a few hours; a 240 or Ma Deuce? Not happening. A Mk19? Forget about it. >Mythbusters shot a minigun on a couple episodes and the ammo cost >(more than a decade ago) was huge. I suppose that the proponents will point to smaller weapons systems, like submachine guns, that are full-auto but shoot conventional cartidges (the Thompson shoots .45ACP, for example) but they often don't realize that the kickback makes them difficult to control. Even the 3-round burst on the M4/M16 pattern weapons will kick you off target almost instantly; that mode is only useful as a direct fire alternative for suppression to support advancing infantry in a complex attack scenario when indirect fire is not viable, you don't have combined-arms support, or you don't have crew-served weapons. It's like a method of last resort. I don't know why anyone would want a full-auto weapon as anything other than a museum piece or a novelty. I strongly suspect that such people have never heard a shot fired in anger before. - Dan C.
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| From | MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 17:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <1776275674-5857@newsgrouper.org> |
| In reply to | #115931 |
cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) posted: ------------------------- > I don't know why anyone would want a full-auto weapon as > anything other than a museum piece or a novelty. I strongly > suspect that such people have never heard a shot fired in anger > before. Same argument can be made about cars that can go faster than speed limits. And we now have cars that can go faster than 250 MPH and require $30K tire sets at replacement. > - Dan C. >
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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 18:48 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10romiq$je6$4@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #115935 |
In article <1776275674-5857@newsgrouper.org>, MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote: > >cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) posted: >------------------------- >> I don't know why anyone would want a full-auto weapon as >> anything other than a museum piece or a novelty. I strongly >> suspect that such people have never heard a shot fired in anger >> before. > >Same argument can be made about cars that can go faster than speed limits. Not really. Speed limits vary with location, and some variation in driving speed is natural (e.g., gravity tends to exert some amount of decelerating force on a car when it starts going up a hill, and similarly an accelerating force when one goes _down_ a hill. Most drivers compensate, but that's not an instantaneous process), and one may temporarily exceed the speed limit to move away from an otherwise unsafe condition, and so on. >And we now have cars that can go faster than 250 MPH and require $30K >tire sets at replacement. Total aside, but I saw an amusing news story about some guy in, I think, Romania who was finally arrested taking a formula 1 car out onto the freeway. The cops had been chasing him for 6 years but couldn't catch him (for obvious reasons). They finally had enough time to set up a roadblock and box him in. It's likely he'll get a fine. - Dan C.
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-16 14:59 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10rrm39$2111k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115931 |
On 4/15/2026 9:25 AM, Dan Cross wrote: > In article <SlNDR.276690$4wI6.88606@fx24.iad>, > Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote: >> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: >>> On 15/04/2026 13:30, Dan Cross wrote: >>>> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>, >>>> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>>> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as >>>> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach >>>> to fixed defensive positions. >> >> They're also extremely expensive to use and maintain. at $2.00 or >> more _per round_, the cost rises rapidly. > > Full-auto weapons are also heavy, and so is the ammo. Carrying > even a SAW is no fun after a few hours; a 240 or Ma Deuce? Not > happening. A Mk19? Forget about it. A fully auto shotgun, say aa12 with the barrel mag? > >> Mythbusters shot a minigun on a couple episodes and the ammo cost >> (more than a decade ago) was huge. Indeed. > > I suppose that the proponents will point to smaller weapons > systems, like submachine guns, that are full-auto but shoot > conventional cartidges (the Thompson shoots .45ACP, for example) > but they often don't realize that the kickback makes them > difficult to control. Even the 3-round burst on the M4/M16 > pattern weapons will kick you off target almost instantly; that > mode is only useful as a direct fire alternative for suppression > to support advancing infantry in a complex attack scenario when > indirect fire is not viable, you don't have combined-arms > support, or you don't have crew-served weapons. It's like a > method of last resort. > > I don't know why anyone would want a full-auto weapon as > anything other than a museum piece or a novelty. I strongly > suspect that such people have never heard a shot fired in anger > before. > > - Dan C. >
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| From | Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 09:52 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <177627196032.7389.4840731386058632845@media.vsta.org> |
| In reply to | #115927 |
cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes: > ... > but they often don't realize that the kickback makes them > difficult to control. Even the 3-round burst on the M4/M16 > pattern weapons will kick you off target almost instantly I've been told (but have no personal experience) that the Uzi design did the best job of tuning the gas port to offset the forces trying to make the barrel ride up off the target. Not precision shooting, but your groups tended to continue to group around your initial target. Andy Valencia Home page: https://www.vsta.org/andy/ To contact me: https://www.vsta.org/contact/andy.html No AI was used in the composition of this message
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| From | MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 19:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <1776281074-5857@newsgrouper.org> |
| In reply to | #115927 |
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) posted:
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> >On 15/04/2026 13:30, Dan Cross wrote:
> >> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
> >> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
> >> to fixed defensive positions.
>
> They're also extremely expensive to use and maintain. at $2.00 or
> more _per round_, the cost rises rapidly.
I reload 308W for $0.36 and 223 for $0.23 with match grade components.
{But, then again, I bought my components a long time ago}
> Mythbusters shot a minigun on a couple episodes and the ammo cost
> (more than a decade ago) was huge.
A minigun costs more than $100/second to use.
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 20:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <j7SDR.2003$bfif.428@fx39.iad> |
| In reply to | #115943 |
MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
>
>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) posted:
>
>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
>> >On 15/04/2026 13:30, Dan Cross wrote:
>> >> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
>> >> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
>> >> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
>> >> to fixed defensive positions.
>>
>> They're also extremely expensive to use and maintain. at $2.00 or
>> more _per round_, the cost rises rapidly.
>
>I reload 308W for $0.36 and 223 for $0.23 with match grade components.
>{But, then again, I bought my components a long time ago}
How long does it take you to reload 500 rounds?
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| From | MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-16 17:27 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <1776360441-5857@newsgrouper.org> |
| In reply to | #115948 |
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) posted:
> MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
> >
> >scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) posted:
> >
> >> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
> >> >On 15/04/2026 13:30, Dan Cross wrote:
> >> >> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> >> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
> >> >> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
> >> >> to fixed defensive positions.
> >>
> >> They're also extremely expensive to use and maintain. at $2.00 or
> >> more _per round_, the cost rises rapidly.
> >
> >I reload 308W for $0.36 and 223 for $0.23 with match grade components.
> >{But, then again, I bought my components a long time ago}
>
> How long does it take you to reload 500 rounds?
>
If you don't count tumbling the dirty cases overnight: 3.5-4 hours.
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| From | Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> |
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| Date | 2026-04-15 21:45 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <0f4ebf7b-ae57-0170-d321-534587aade6f@tmsw.no> |
| In reply to | #115922 |
Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>>>
>>> If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
>>> tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
>>> months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
>>>
>>> One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
>>> to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
>>> any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
>>> record}
>>
>> Anyone with a non-USAn brain would say this is utterly insane.
>
> As someone who has used, maintained, and fired a number of fully
> automatic weapons in the military, I wonder why anyone would
> want one.
>
> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
> to fixed defensive positions.
As a reserve officer I have a similar experience:
I have shot maybe a total of two magazines of 7.62 on full auto in my
AG3, just to get a feel for what it was like. Every single other round
was single shot precision.
I have also fired the classic WWII era Browning 12.7 (.50 cal), in AA
training against model planes, but my main gun was a 20 mm AA gun, in
fact the same gun as used in an F16. The latter shoots the big brother
of the (in)famous Raufoss .50 round, with a 9 gram explosive charge.
Every round is a tracer so you can see very clearly where your rounds
are going.
BTW, that 20mm AA gun was close to useless against any fast mover like a
fighter, but provided an excellent platform against vehicles and
helicopters.
A year after my class graduated, they started to replace those guns with
Swedish radar-aimed and target-seeking Robot 70 missiles.
Terje
--
- <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no>
"almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-04-15 13:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10roqrm$170sl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115922 |
On 4/15/2026 4:30 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>>>
>>> If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
>>> tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
>>> months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
>>>
>>> One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
>>> to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
>>> any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
>>> record}
>>
>> Anyone with a non-USAn brain would say this is utterly insane.
>
> As someone who has used, maintained, and fired a number of fully
> automatic weapons in the military, I wonder why anyone would
> want one.
>
> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
> to fixed defensive positions.
>
> - Dan C.
>
Say target on single fire mode. Missed! Turn to auto and give a burst.
Or don't for what about 3 round burst? They are moving now. No single
sniper mode. A suppress fully auto can make the target think there might
be more than one person out there. Reminds me of the following scene:
(Terminator 2: Judgment Day [4K] Sarah Connor tries to kill Dyson)
https://youtu.be/j8TIMy_eyK0
Also, full auto, beware! Blows your ammo!
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| From | "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-04-15 13:16 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10rormr$179fu$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115950 |
On 4/15/2026 1:01 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 4/15/2026 4:30 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
>> In article <n48bl0Fdbm4U1@mid.individual.net>,
>> moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 15/04/2026 01:44, MitchAlsup wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you fill out the right forms, fill in the right paperwork, pay the
>>>> tax stamp cost, and wait through Sheriff interviews, and wait the ~18
>>>> months, you can legally own a fully automatic firearm.
>>>>
>>>> One should also note: in the history of this system (~late 1930s)
>>>> to present: only 2 properly registered FA guns have been used in
>>>> any crimes. {Anyone with a brain would say this is a pretty good
>>>> record}
>>>
>>> Anyone with a non-USAn brain would say this is utterly insane.
>>
>> As someone who has used, maintained, and fired a number of fully
>> automatic weapons in the military, I wonder why anyone would
>> want one.
>>
>> Broadly speaking, they're a pain, and pretty much only useful as
>> either a suppression weapon or for guarding avenues of approach
>> to fixed defensive positions.
>>
>> - Dan C.
>>
>
>
> Say target on single fire mode. Missed! Turn to auto and give a burst.
> Or don't for what about 3 round burst? They are moving now. No single
> sniper mode. A suppress fully auto can make the target think there might
> be more than one person out there. Reminds me of the following scene:
>
>
> (Terminator 2: Judgment Day [4K] Sarah Connor tries to kill Dyson)
>
> https://youtu.be/j8TIMy_eyK0
>
>
> Also, full auto, beware! Blows your ammo!
>
He was waving it around. Oh God. I could have died that day. BUT,
something told me to be calm, cool and collected when I asked him to let
me hold it.
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-04-15 20:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] |
| Message-ID | <10roscm$17c9f$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #115950 |
Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> schrieb: > Say target on single fire mode. Missed! Turn to auto and give a burst. > Or don't for what about 3 round burst? They are moving now. No single > sniper mode. A suppress fully auto can make the target think there might > be more than one person out there. Reminds me of the following scene: Firing suppressive fire in full auto is not what assault guns are for. That's what real machine guns are for. There was some criticism of the G36 assault rifle in Germany because the aim point appeared to wander at auto-fire in high temperatures. Well, see above. -- This USENET posting was made without artificial intelligence, artificial impertinence, artificial arrogance, artificial stupidity, artificial flavorings or artificial colorants.
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