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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.arch |
| Subject | Re: Are rotating register files still a bad idea? |
| Date | 2012-02-03 13:09 -0500 |
| Organization | Wheeler&Wheeler |
| Message-ID | <m3ehubrdq5.fsf@garlic.com> (permalink) |
| References | <ggtgp-60FC24.23160602022012@netnews.mchsi.com> <bcf1faf4a52f566960056617e73589de@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> |
Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201202.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> writes: > System Z (what you are calling 370) is actively developed and installed at > 10s of thousands of sites as a primary machine. It's a lot easier to migrate > C code that runs on SPARC to Intel and replace a server farm than it is to > migrate assembler and COBOL that runs on IBM and there are advantages to IBM > OS and hardware that SPARC doesn't offer over its competition. current estimate is that there are 10,000 mainframes installed at 4000-5000 customers (I know some large financial institutions with 50-100 machines). http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2010-08-10/news/27620495_1_mainframe-ibm-big-challenge I've conjectured that heavy financial industry dependency on mainframes contributed to Gerstner taking the job to resurrect IBM in the mid-90s ... although the business does continue mainframes ... its revenue is now 83% software and services ... and everything else (including all hardware platforms) is 17%. recent reference in ibm-main mailing list http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#20 a couple other refs from (linkedin) Greater IBM (current/former employees) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#57 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#104 other recent posts on the subject http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#45 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012.html#92 recent mainframe z196 is rated at 50BIPS with 80 processors (previous mainframe z10 was 24BIPS with 64 processors) ... or if every mainframe in the world upgraded to maximum 80 processor configuration ... that works at to 500TIPS http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#28 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012b.html#30 compared to on-demand supercomputer from Amazon cloud at 240TIPS (which would rank 42nd in the world) ... lots of cloud mega-datacenters may individually have more processing power than the aggregate of every mainframe in the world today. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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