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Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead

From John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Newsgroups comp.arch
Subject Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead
Date 2026-05-02 18:21 +0000
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According to Thomas Koenig  <tkoenig@netcologne.de>:
>> Not goals exactly, but constraints.  Remember, S/360 had no memory 
>> address relocation hardware such as a hardware base register or paging. 
>> The addresses in a program were real memory addresses.  Thus address say 
>> 1,000 in a program was real memory address 1,000.  So absent base 
>> registers, you couldn't have more than one program in memory at the same 
>> time, since program1's address 1,000 would have referred to the same 
>> real memory address as program2's address 1,000.

>Small quibble:  This depends on what your loader does.  IIRC
>(I would have to re-read John Levine's book on linkers and loaders

You rang? I don't think my book said much about it, but on OS/360 and its
descendants, load modules are relocatable and when they're loaded into memory,
which they call program fetch, the addresses in memory, which they call address
constants, are relocated to wherever the module is actually loaded. If you have
three copies of a program running at once, they'd be loaded and relocated to
three separate places.

The main motivation for base+displacement was that they both wanted an
architecture with large flat addresses, and they needed compact instructions
since memory was expensive and the small models would have only 8K or 16K. Each
address in an instruction was 16 bits, but could address the full 24 bit (later
31 bit) address space without segment kludgery. You needed a BALR or similar at
the start of each routine to set up a base register, but that was only two bytes
so it was a good tradeoff. The only thing I would have done differently would
have been to make branches PC relative so code didn't need a base register,
something later added in S/390.

Sort of reading between the lines, I get the impression that they thought that
since all the addresses were relative to base registers, they could get the
effect of dynamic relocation by changing the base registers. That didn't work
both because there's no straightforward way to know which registers are being
used as base registers, and because every real program also has the above
mentioned address constants in memory.

I think I heard of a version of APL\360 which by very disciplined programming
could swap a workspace out and swap it back in somewhere else, and update
the register pointing to it, but that was far from a general solution.

As time went on and memory became cheaper, the 4K displacements became more
annoying, so on S/390 they added 16 and 32 bit relative branches, which were
really 17 and 33 since they were shifted a bit left since instructions are
all halfword aligned, and a bunch of instructions with 16 bit immmediate
operands.  On z they added 32 bit immediates and 20 bit signed displacements.

-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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  Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 19:00 +0000
    Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 01:14 +0000
      Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 06:08 +0000
        Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-08 18:43 +0000
          Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 01:00 +0000
            Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 13:21 +0000
              Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-10 15:15 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 05:02 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:08 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:28 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:33 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:43 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-13 10:24 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-13 22:59 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-14 03:17 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-14 14:55 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 22:55 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 22:58 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-14 23:36 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 01:14 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-15 08:35 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 17:43 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-14 23:48 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-15 19:47 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 20:56 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:16 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 20:52 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 01:34 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 03:11 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 05:16 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 14:18 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-05 04:33 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-05 14:02 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-01 17:36 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 19:00 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-01 19:25 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:34 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:45 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 21:43 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-04 18:06 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-04 13:46 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 01:10 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 17:19 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-18 05:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-01 12:29 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 01:41 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 02:17 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 02:37 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 10:01 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 11:22 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 13:58 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:00 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 05:09 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 05:37 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-02 15:57 +0000
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 18:21 +0000
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:31 -0700
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 20:21 +0000
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:29 +0000
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-05-03 21:06 -0400
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-05 10:12 +0200
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-05-05 11:55 -0400
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-05 21:05 +0200
                Re: base, index, and so forth Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 08:47 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 17:25 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 11:05 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 20:35 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:42 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 13:37 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:02 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 18:10 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:10 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-02 15:44 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-05-02 09:45 -0700
                Re: index registers, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 18:34 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 17:35 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:53 +0000
                Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-02 22:23 +0000
                Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-03 11:45 +0000
                Re: immediates, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-03 16:27 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 18:33 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 02:26 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-04 05:45 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-05-04 20:00 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-06 01:06 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 06:19 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-05-02 03:33 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 12:15 +0000
                Adressing modes (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-02 17:55 +0000
                Re: Adressing modes (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 19:08 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-02 18:48 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 21:59 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-02 23:04 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-15 14:35 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-15 15:47 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 04:16 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 17:53 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-17 19:25 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 13:51 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 19:55 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 21:08 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-19 21:15 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-22 10:19 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-22 23:06 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-23 07:13 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-19 15:48 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 01:42 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 00:34 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 00:36 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:25 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 17:57 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-18 00:20 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-19 06:56 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:26 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-20 01:25 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 20:30 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-19 00:20 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-19 12:06 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-19 10:46 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-19 16:15 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-19 16:22 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-19 19:00 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:32 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 01:13 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 01:43 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-20 07:23 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-20 09:27 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 16:01 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-20 07:19 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:29 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 07:06 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-21 06:06 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 16:21 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 01:00 +0200
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-22 01:12 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 03:28 +0200
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 09:48 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-22 17:57 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-23 19:18 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-23 21:10 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-23 21:38 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-24 18:12 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 20:31 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-25 23:05 +0200
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 21:11 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-25 22:34 +0100
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-26 22:24 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 03:50 +0300
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:12 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2026-03-27 10:33 +0200
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-03-27 16:41 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:53 +0000
                multi-tasking performance on one core (was: POWER trends) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:37 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-27 12:46 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-24 10:41 +0200
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-24 11:36 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 08:49 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-27 12:49 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-27 13:47 +0000
                Re: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 17:27 +0000
                byte order (was: POWER trends, Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 18:53 +0000
                Power (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 08:31 +0000
                Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-26 20:00 +0000
                Re: z, was Power (was: Concertina II Instead) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-27 01:20 +0000
                Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 07:21 +0000
                Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-27 08:07 +0000
                Re: System z cpu error recovery [was Power] EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-27 09:08 -0400
                Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:52 +0000
                Re: Power (was: Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 21:42 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-21 19:57 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-22 09:06 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 10:17 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 10:12 +0000
                SPARC M8 (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-21 16:44 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-24 04:09 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-25 11:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:12 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-03 13:22 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-03 11:47 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-04 05:59 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 16:38 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-06 18:58 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-07 23:15 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-11 15:34 +0100
                x86s (was: Concertina II Instead) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-11 16:55 +0000
                Re: x86s (was: Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-12 15:58 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 18:16 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-12 22:52 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-12 22:12 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-05-13 19:33 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-13 18:47 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-13 18:07 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-13 20:51 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-15 16:02 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-16 11:20 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-14 21:10 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-15 16:05 +0000
                Re: 16 vs 32 bits, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-15 18:11 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 18:19 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-15 20:07 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 22:19 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-04 16:39 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-08 18:12 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-05-08 20:11 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-08 16:55 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-08 21:21 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-10 08:59 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-10 15:59 +0000
                Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-10 19:09 +0000
                Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 12:20 -0400
                Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-05-11 16:58 +0000
                Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:26 +0000
                Re: VAX multiply, Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-14 13:27 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-12 15:35 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-12 20:22 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-12 17:47 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 13:54 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-15 11:30 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-15 17:08 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-05-10 16:23 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-11 07:47 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 18:16 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 09:02 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-05-11 16:21 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-12 07:54 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-09 17:07 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-10 10:54 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-05-10 16:05 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-05-09 19:41 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-11 14:44 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-05-11 20:51 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-05-15 09:03 -0400
              Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 16:57 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-11 02:04 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 02:26 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 17:55 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-15 19:42 +0000
                Re: emulation on the 360, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-15 20:36 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-15 20:42 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-17 20:18 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 20:28 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 00:18 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-18 17:35 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-23 21:10 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 17:09 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-17 21:43 +0000
                Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-17 22:07 +0000
                Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:52 -0700
                Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 15:01 +0000
                Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 16:01 +0000
                Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-18 16:56 +0000
                Re: microcode, Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 18:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-18 01:08 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:59 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 00:21 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 11:22 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-23 19:16 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 14:36 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-23 15:52 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 17:38 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-24 11:40 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 14:35 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 13:48 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 18:09 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 16:33 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 01:21 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-24 18:37 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 02:47 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-25 18:31 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:59 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-25 23:12 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 16:29 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-26 20:29 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 03:32 +0300
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-27 12:45 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-27 16:54 +0300
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:56 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 14:31 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-28 11:54 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 13:56 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-27 21:38 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 20:59 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 02:21 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-28 04:09 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-28 19:23 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-28 20:47 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-30 03:47 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-30 03:50 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-31 12:21 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-01 07:49 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-01 19:14 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-27 18:50 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-28 08:41 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-27 14:25 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 16:13 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 18:03 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-24 19:19 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-24 17:40 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 01:20 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 16:53 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:09 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:37 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 02:51 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 05:20 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 13:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 18:43 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 21:44 +0000
        Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:44 +0000
          Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 17:20 -0500
        Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-09 02:53 +0000
          Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-09 03:29 +0000
    Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:13 -0500
    Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:09 +0000
      Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:36 +0000
        Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-16 23:46 +0000
          Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 00:06 +0000
            Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 08:00 +0000
              Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-17 15:36 +0000
              Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-17 09:09 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 18:36 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-18 01:41 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 16:00 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-19 05:13 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-20 02:20 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 19:29 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 16:56 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-21 04:44 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-01 07:58 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 14:53 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 04:12 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 05:51 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 07:04 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 23:35 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 17:54 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-03 14:47 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 15:08 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 16:28 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-03 19:48 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 20:37 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-03 22:03 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-03 23:45 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-04 13:29 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:29 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 14:51 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 15:40 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-04 15:59 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 19:36 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-06 23:17 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 14:20 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 14:50 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 15:25 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-07 16:59 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-08 20:25 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-09 01:27 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-09 02:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-12 04:40 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-12 18:18 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-13 19:41 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-13 21:37 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 12:48 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:08 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 22:31 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 15:12 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 04:49 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 05:21 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 21:33 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-20 17:17 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 02:53 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-04 22:53 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-04 23:49 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-04-05 03:15 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 09:38 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 13:52 +0300
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 13:48 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-05 18:34 +0300
                Re: Concertina II Instead jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-04-05 12:43 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-04-05 14:30 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 01:16 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 16:33 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 16:22 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 22:41 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-06 23:31 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 04:48 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 03:12 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-07 10:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 13:23 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-07 19:32 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 14:52 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-08 19:50 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 15:03 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-08 15:15 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-08 23:34 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-09 17:35 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 15:44 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-10 01:11 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-09 21:09 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 01:41 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 01:45 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 07:32 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-11 13:41 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 19:22 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 06:42 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 07:24 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 06:55 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 12:33 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 12:18 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-12 11:22 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-12 16:52 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-12 18:09 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-11 07:28 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-11 13:01 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-04-12 10:12 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 15:51 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-13 21:11 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 17:07 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 18:36 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 01:19 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-13 22:50 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 05:31 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 09:07 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:11 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 00:51 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 06:00 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 03:09 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 08:30 -0400
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 14:34 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:07 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 19:05 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 14:32 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-14 16:18 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 18:13 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-14 19:07 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-14 19:30 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 02:53 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:22 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:14 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-14 16:35 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 16:14 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 00:44 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-14 21:24 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-15 03:32 +0100
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 11:30 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 15:48 +0200
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 13:56 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-15 14:34 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 16:25 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 17:54 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-04-15 18:48 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 14:59 -0700
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-04-15 09:52 -0700
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 19:24 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-04-15 20:00 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 17:27 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-15 21:45 +0200
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 13:01 -0700
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 13:16 -0700
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-15 20:28 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 20:12 -0700
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-16 05:27 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-15 23:55 -0700
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-16 17:39 +0000
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:19 -0700
                Re: Machineguns [was re: Concertina II Instead] Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-17 05:37 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 15:36 +0000
                Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-15 16:44 +0000
                Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-15 17:57 +0000
                Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-15 18:22 +0000
                Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-04-15 21:15 +0000
                Gate delays (was: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-17 21:38 +0000
                Re: Gate delays (was: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-18 01:11 +0000
                Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-18 13:01 -0400
                Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-18 17:59 +0000
                Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-19 14:37 -0400
                Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:39 +0000
                Re: Gate delays Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-18 19:23 +0000
                Re: Gate delays EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-04-19 16:04 -0400
                Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 21:48 +0000
                Re: Gate delays Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-20 17:47 +0000
                Re: Gate delays Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-04-22 00:00 -0400
                Re: Gate delays MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-22 18:19 +0000
                Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-04-18 20:51 -0700
                Re: far, far, away from Concertina II Instead MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-19 18:18 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-15 21:55 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-15 23:44 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:15 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 13:46 -0700
                Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-16 23:00 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 18:53 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2026-04-17 13:09 +0100
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 13:13 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-04-17 02:06 +0000
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-16 22:09 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 08:05 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-04-17 02:20 -0500
                Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 14:18 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-04-17 16:07 +0200
                Re: Concertina II Instead David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-04-17 16:57 +0200

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