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Re: Illinois jury lists contain dead people. What about the voter rolls?

From	pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Newsgroups	alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.guns, chi.politics
Subject	Re: Illinois jury lists contain dead people. What about the voter rolls?
Date	2026-04-21 23:48 +0000
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On 2026-04-21, useapen <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
> An Illinois defense attorney is charging there are too many dead people
> on the states jury pools, a claim bolstered by ChatGPT. 
>
> If true, it not only has significance for criminal justice reform, but
> implications for election integrity. 
>
> The story is developing at the same time the Department of Justice (DOJ)
> has sued 29 states and Washington, D.C., for stonewalling federal voter
> roll audits. 
>
> A national survey of one third of the countrys voters yielded 350,000
> dead registrants and 25,000 individuals with no citizenship records,
> Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Harmeet Dhillon told Fox
> host Maria Bartiromo. 
>
> And thats among the states showing high compliance with voter
> registration requirements. 
>
> James Mertes, a criminal defense attorney in Whiteside County, Illinois,
> said that dead peoples names are also turning up on recent lists of
> potential jurors. 
>
> Now, he and county prosecutors are questioning whether Illinois has
> sufficient safeguards to purge the deceased from its jury pools. 
>
> The case sits at an uncomfortable intersection of two issues that rarely
> share the same sentence: judicial fairness, a priority of the left, and
> election integrity, a priority of the right. 
>
> Both concerns trace back to the same corrupted state databases.
>
> The issue surfaced in the case of Michael Cover, charged with felony
> aggravated battery of a police officer, reported local WHBF Davenport,
> Quad Cities News. 
>
> Mertes, representing Cover, 32, discovered that the county clerk was
> using a jury list that improperly excluded potential jurors. 
>
> The clerk was excluding anyone under 21, over 80, anyone who owed the
> county clerk money, anyone with a pending civil case and anyone ever
> charged with a criminal case in the county. 
>
> The person doing the jury selection, thats how she was taught,
> Circuit Clerk Sue Scott told Quad Cities News. So how long its been in
> place, I have no idea. Nor does she. 
>
> A judge threw out the jury pool.
>
> A second attempt with a blindfolded clerk drawing names randomly from a
> box used the same flawed underlying list, said the Chicago Tribune. 
>
> A judge tossed that list out too.
>
> A new pool was generated using ChatGPT to randomly pull names from a
> state-provided list of 48,000 county residents. 
>
> Of 200 names produced, 60 were dead.
>
> The average age of the remaining potential jurors was 72 with the
> youngest at 42, reported the Tribune. 
>
> The list raised immediate questions.
>
> Whiteside Countys 2020 U.S. Census adult population was approximately
> 43,000. 
>
> That means the states list of 48,000 names was mathematically larger
> than present population. 
>
> Mertes argued the skewed pool  older, whiter and containing deceased
> individuals  violated both state and federal constitutions. 
>
> Its extremely difficult to believe this problem doesnt exist in other
> counties, he said, according to the Tribune. Our system of justice is
> predicated on the idea that a jury represents a fair cross section of
> the community, so you get different perspectives. 
>
> Illinois collects data from voter rolls, drivers licenses and Social
> Security to create jury lists. 
>
> The case highlights the importance of centralized list integrity, since
> the same databases feeding Illinois jury pools also feed its voter
> rolls. 
>
> Under Illinois automatic voter registration, any interaction with a
> participating state agency triggers voter registration unless you opt
> out. 
>
> That includes the Secretary of State for drivers licenses and state
> IDs, but also for public benefits. 
>
> Except for Social Security, none of the lists purges the dead or screens
> for citizenship. 
>
> Whiteside County States Attorney Colleen Buckwalter conceded the
> problems, stating in court that her office had received no guarantee
> that the pool had been purged of the deceased, noted the Tribune. 
>
> The Illinois State Board of Elections receives monthly death data from
> the U.S. Social Security Administration and the Illinois Department of
> Public Health but forwards it only to local election authorities. 
>
> We dont have authority to register or remove voters from voter rolls,
> Board of Elections spokesperson Matt Dietrich said in an email to the
> Tribune. That is solely the responsibility of local election
> authorities. 
>
> The good news is if authorities move to clean up jury pool source lists,
> which is a straightforward 6th Amendment argument, the U.S. gets cleaner
> voter rolls as a byproduct. 
>
> Dhillon said the problem is nationwide, not just limited to Illinois.
>
> Just recently, someone was indicted in Minnesota, of all places, for
> voting without being a citizen, and so Ive sent a document request to
> them on that, the DOJs Dhillon told Fox. Minnesota has a weird
> vouching law that allows citizens to vouch for each others
> citizenship. 
>
> https://readlion.com/illinois-jury-lists-contain-dead-people-what-about-t
> he-voter-rolls/ 

How many voted democrat?
How many voted republican?


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blue collar worker rise to someone who has built their own
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