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| Started by | F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-02-09 21:52 +1100 |
| Last post | 2017-02-15 11:14 +1100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 390 — 27 participants |
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SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-09 21:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 03:31 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 07:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 14:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 15:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 19:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 20:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 20:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 21:20 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 21:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 22:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies pedro <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-12 09:28 +0800
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 21:54 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 07:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 23:49 +1300
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 17:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 17:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 19:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 20:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 03:12 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 05:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 14:25 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 09:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 15:01 -0800
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 12:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 14:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 16:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 19:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 04:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 09:38 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 11:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 12:09 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 13:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 15:08 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-13 18:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 18:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-13 19:41 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 20:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 21:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-13 22:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 23:25 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 06:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 11:54 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 12:27 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 14:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 14:15 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 16:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 17:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 16:11 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 17:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 19:33 +1000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 19:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-15 14:47 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 20:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies HD <herpem@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-14 20:01 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:18 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-14 22:43 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 06:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 13:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-15 14:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 23:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 08:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 15:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 15:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 04:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 08:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 11:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 12:48 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-17 14:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:23 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 08:43 +0000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-17 15:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:26 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:03 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 20:30 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 10:16 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 09:22 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-18 11:54 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@your.scary.shadow.edu> - 2017-02-18 23:55 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 11:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 11:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 13:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 14:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 16:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 17:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 17:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-20 04:16 +0000
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-20 16:18 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 18:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:37 +0000
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-23 15:27 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-24 04:42 +0000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 15:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 13:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 13:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 16:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 16:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 17:26 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 21:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 23:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 15:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 17:41 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 17:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:25 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-17 18:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 08:31 +0000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 10:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 11:22 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:07 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 13:52 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 14:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 15:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 16:38 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 15:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 15:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 16:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 17:10 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 20:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 21:01 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2017-02-16 23:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-16 22:02 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 09:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-17 11:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-17 10:36 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2017-02-17 13:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-17 13:24 +1000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:29 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-16 11:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 05:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-16 11:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 11:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 11:48 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 12:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 13:03 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 10:20 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:43 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 10:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 11:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:21 +1100
Re: Cats felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:20 +1100
Re: Cats Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-18 11:53 +0000
Re: Cats felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 23:47 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 00:07 +1100
Re: Cats Peter <noemail@pigpond.com> - 2017-02-19 10:23 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:47 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:09 +0000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:37 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 14:05 +0000
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 08:46 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-19 09:27 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-19 09:25 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:52 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 14:02 +0000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:49 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 09:58 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 11:20 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 11:23 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 14:16 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:39 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:16 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-20 02:21 +0000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 14:28 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 14:26 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 17:15 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:03 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:38 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:03 +0000
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:15 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:45 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:26 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-19 14:32 +1000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:57 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:04 +0000
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:46 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:16 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:42 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:23 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 09:18 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:48 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 16:25 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:08 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:21 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:31 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 12:37 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:04 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 16:12 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 10:10 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:33 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 11:15 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:44 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:42 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:54 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:21 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:10 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 10:20 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:27 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 11:28 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 11:29 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 19:43 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 19:53 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 20:26 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 20:42 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:56 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 23:59 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-21 00:39 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 01:46 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:30 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:52 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:07 +1100
Re: Cats Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:10 +0000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 16:26 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 10:41 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 16:06 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 21:36 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 08:57 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-26 18:01 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:41 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:33 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:58 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:31 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-22 09:29 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:26 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:44 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:55 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:45 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 13:07 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 13:39 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 14:55 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 15:19 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 17:34 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 17:47 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 18:04 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:56 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 21:54 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:55 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:17 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:32 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 15:00 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:19 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:29 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:14 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:30 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 15:43 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:23 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:35 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:36 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:38 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:49 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-01 16:11 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:05 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-01 23:06 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:16 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-02 08:13 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:49 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 14:26 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-03 08:15 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 10:48 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-03 11:16 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-03 10:35 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 14:52 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-03-02 14:22 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:03 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 18:12 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 09:46 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:57 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:40 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:56 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:39 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 16:38 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:28 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:06 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-27 18:52 +1000
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 06:14 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 17:43 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:25 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:47 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:46 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:23 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:19 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:57 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:46 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-21 12:14 +1000
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 18:10 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 01:00 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:33 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:28 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:08 +0000
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Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 13:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 10:20 +1100
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Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:07 +1100
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Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 15:52 +1100
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Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-15 10:37 +1000
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Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-09 22:17 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 10:05 +1100
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Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:26 +1100
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| From | F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-22 00:54 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <o8hgo6$jaf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32890 |
Petzl wrote: > On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:10:11 +1100, Trevor Wilson > <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote: > >> **OK. Rats are a small problem in my area. Baits and traps deal with the >> problem quite well. As do Kookaburras and in one case I witnessed, >> Butcher Birds (I saw a male carrying a baby rat off to eat). I accept >> that your issues are more serious. FWIW: A school mate and his family >> owned a Terrier (don't recall what kind - short red, wiry haired type). >> It was an amazing ratter. At least once a week, it would present it's >> latest kill at the back door of their home. It NEVER killed birds. Just >> rats. Smart, friendly and fun. Geez it was a fabulous dog. Even after >> losing an eye in an accident, it would still kill rats. > > According to a report commissioned by your council rats are a large > problem > > The Black Rat climbs trees and eats small birds or eggs out of their > nests, as well as fruit and vegetables. > > They often cause damage by gnawing pipes, telephone cords and hoses. > They are unhygienic and the carrier of disease. This Rat can have up > to 60 young in a year and at three months, are sexually mature. > The Black Rat is commonly sighted in the Rockdale area by day or > night. Common sightings are around most of our waterways and > beach areas. This is the rat seen by most people. > Most people wrongly call them Water Rats; nothing could be further > from the truth. > > Of course then there is the rat disease problem > <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-15/increased-rat-sightings-across-sydney/6018656> > https://is.gd/wD1SYI > Reports of increased rat sightings across Sydney spark disease > concerns > ***************** > > Then with even feral cats > <http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/08/australian-cats-and-foxes-may-not-deserve-their-bad-rep> > https://is.gd/RoXaoU > Foxes and feral cats are wildly unpopular among Australian > conservationists. The two animals are infamous for killing off the > continent's native species, and they?e been the targets of numerous > government-backed eradication campaigns. > > But new research suggests that on Australian islands, these predators > help control an even more destructive one: the black rat. As a result, > eliminating cats and foxes could actually leave native mammals more > vulnerable to predation, competition, and ultimately extinction. > Have you seen the list of things the noisy miners get up to?
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-22 10:21 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <npipacldbbd70n0hhce5sep6lptvqoria6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32908 |
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 00:54:58 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote: >Petzl wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:10:11 +1100, Trevor Wilson >> <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote: >> >>> **OK. Rats are a small problem in my area. Baits and traps deal with the >>> problem quite well. As do Kookaburras and in one case I witnessed, >>> Butcher Birds (I saw a male carrying a baby rat off to eat). I accept >>> that your issues are more serious. FWIW: A school mate and his family >>> owned a Terrier (don't recall what kind - short red, wiry haired type). >>> It was an amazing ratter. At least once a week, it would present it's >>> latest kill at the back door of their home. It NEVER killed birds. Just >>> rats. Smart, friendly and fun. Geez it was a fabulous dog. Even after >>> losing an eye in an accident, it would still kill rats. >> >> According to a report commissioned by your council rats are a large >> problem >> >> The Black Rat climbs trees and eats small birds or eggs out of their >> nests, as well as fruit and vegetables. >> >> They often cause damage by gnawing pipes, telephone cords and hoses. >> They are unhygienic and the carrier of disease. This Rat can have up >> to 60 young in a year and at three months, are sexually mature. >> The Black Rat is commonly sighted in the Rockdale area by day or >> night. Common sightings are around most of our waterways and >> beach areas. This is the rat seen by most people. >> Most people wrongly call them Water Rats; nothing could be further >> from the truth. >> >> Of course then there is the rat disease problem >> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-15/increased-rat-sightings-across-sydney/6018656> >> https://is.gd/wD1SYI >> Reports of increased rat sightings across Sydney spark disease >> concerns >> ***************** >> >> Then with even feral cats >> <http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/08/australian-cats-and-foxes-may-not-deserve-their-bad-rep> >> https://is.gd/RoXaoU >> Foxes and feral cats are wildly unpopular among Australian >> conservationists. The two animals are infamous for killing off the >> continent's native species, and they?e been the targets of numerous >> government-backed eradication campaigns. >> >> But new research suggests that on Australian islands, these predators >> help control an even more destructive one: the black rat. As a result, >> eliminating cats and foxes could actually leave native mammals more >> vulnerable to predation, competition, and ultimately extinction. >> >Have you seen the list of things the noisy miners get up to? Read it here Clever Trevor snipped it! <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-14/native-noisy-miners-cause-more-damage-than-introduced-species/5964328> https://is.gd/l9DTiJ Native noisy miners cause more damage than introduced Indian myna, research finds By Eric Tlozek Updated 14 Dec 2014, 6:17pm -- Petzl In 2009, Buzz Aldrin commented on climate change by saying: "I think the climate has been changing for billions of years. If it's warming now, it may cool off later. I'm not in favor of just taking short-term isolated situations and depleting our resources to keep our climate just the way it is today. I'm not necessarily of the school that we are causing it all, I think the world is causing it.
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-23 09:53 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <e15sac9u4k9ol04eqf6uakojklb8bdp4ik@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32886 |
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 10:10:11 +1100, Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote: >On 20/02/2017 4:12 PM, Je?us wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 08:23:27 +1100, Trevor Wilson >> <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote: >> >>> On 19/02/2017 6:46 PM, Je?us wrote: >>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 09:58:03 +1100, Trevor Wilson >>>> <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> **Cat owners are, in the main, thoughtless arseholes. >>>> >>>> Nice. I think any shred of a friendship between us is dead and gone at >>>> this point. >>>> >>> >>> **BTW: I did not say "ALL cat owners". Just most. As long as the pet cat >>> cannot kill and main native wildlife, I have no issue with them or their >>> owners. I enjoy the native critters that live and visit my backyard. I >>> see no reason to accept visiting cats, which threaten the lives of those >>> native animals. Here's (partly) why: >>> >>> Some of the birds that visit are Noisy Miners, Magpies and Butcher >>> Birds. All are insectivorous. Flies, mozzies, roaches and other annoying >>> bugs are fair game for all these birds. As a consequence, annoying >>> insects are kept at bay. What those birds don't eat, my frogs polish off >>> at night. I've seen domestic cats eating my frogs (frogs are really easy >>> game for any predator) and I've seen them stalk magpies. Cats need to be >>> kept indoors at all times. I enjoy my native wildlife. >> >> But your standards tend to be inconsistent and unrealistic. Life >> isn't so black and white as you so often seem to proclaim it to be >> (firearm users, AGW, cats for example). You enjoy wildlife and care >> for the environment, and have zero tolerance for cats being outdoors. > >**Actually, I never much cared one way or the other until an event about >15 years ago caused me to reassess. at my last home we had a family of >Superb Blue Fairy Wrens living in the bushes outside the main bedroom. >Each morning, we would awake to the beautiful sounds made by the Wrens. >Superb Blue Fairy Wrens are very small birds. They eat the odd insect >and add colour and interest to any garden. Then, my neighbours across >the road moved in with their fucking cat. We awoke one morning to find >the remnants of the entire family strewn across my front yard. It was >extremely distressing. After that experience I changed my attitude >towards domestic cats being allowed outdoors. Yeah but... you tend to take a knee-jerk view on things rather than considering the big picture. The world doesn't work on absolutes or black and white concepts. Well, most people don't... then you have people such as Donald Trump and yourself who think otherwise. >> And yet you live an urban lifestyle, don't produce your own power, >> water and it's safe to assume little to no food. You also bought a >> Stagea, which isn't essential to your life. Your lifestyle isn't >> conducive to being environmentally responsible, IMO. That doesn't >> particularly bother me but the double standards do. > >**Am I a hypocrite? Absolutely. I could give you a dozen reasons why I >own a Stagea, but, in reality, I could have purchased a dozen different, >similarly sized wagons that can do the work I require of the Stagea. I >could have purchased a Commodore, for instance. > >> >> My cats are free to roam outdoors any time they like. Having said >> that, they spend most their time in bed, in front of the fire, or on >> my lap (as one is right now). >> >> The older one has no interest in hunting, except for mice, rats and >> rabbits for some reason, My tabby can and does kill birds, >> unfortunately. But they both keep the rodents at bay, which is a >> serious problem here if not dealt with (baits don't eliminate them). > >**OK. Rats are a small problem in my area. Baits and traps deal with the >problem quite well. Baits and traps don't always work well. >As do Kookaburras and in one case I witnessed, >Butcher Birds (I saw a male carrying a baby rat off to eat). I accept >that your issues are more serious. FWIW: A school mate and his family >owned a Terrier (don't recall what kind - short red, wiry haired type). >It was an amazing ratter. At least once a week, it would present it's >latest kill at the back door of their home. It NEVER killed birds. Just >rats. Smart, friendly and fun. Geez it was a fabulous dog. Even after >losing an eye in an accident, it would still kill rats. Yes, my neighbor's terrier is excellent at dispatching possums, I wish my dog was as quick and agile. Possums: Now THERE"S an native animal that is an obnoxious and destructive pest. Thanks to mankind, they're in plague proportions. I'm killing a dozen or more per week. >> So its a tradeoff, between the good and the bad aspects of cats (as it >> is with anything else). I have no guilt about it, because on the whole >> I'm doing a lot more for the environment by producing my own food, >> power and water than by being a generic consumer with an >> insular/distorted view on the real world. > >**OK. They're also not 'dirty filthy creatures' or are a realistic danger to pregnant women, BTW. Just more of your unreasonable and hysterical overreactions coming into play. >> BTW, you don't seem to be concerned about dogs for some reason? > >**Wanna start a discussion about dogs? Feel free. Dog owners are, in the >main, somewhat better than cat owners, BUT that is largely due to the >fact that there are a lot more rules surrounding the ownership of dogs. No. Dogs are much easier to contain within a property. >Those rules carry some reasonably serious penalties. Without those rules >and penalties, I have every reason to believe that those dog owners >would be just as irresponsible as many cat owners. Wild dogs are a MAJOR >problem outside metro areas and are due to irresponsible dog owners. Indeed they are, as I know all too well. >FWIW: I've owned a couple of dogs and lots of birds (budgies). We no >longer keep any pets, preferring, instead, to observe and interact with >the native critters that visit (it cuts down on vet fees too). The birds >keep the insects down and the blue tongues deal with the snails. SWMBO >doesn't use any pesticides on the garden (which is a mix of natives and >some food plants). I got a lot of joy (and significant pain) from owning >a pet, but have decided that it is time to let go.
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| From | felix <me@nothere.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-18 21:17 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <egql9fFl7o3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32755 |
On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 17/02/2017 5:04 PM, felix wrote: >> On Thursday, 16 Feb 2017 11:52 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 16/02/2017 11:46 AM, felix wrote: >>>> On Thursday, 16 Feb 2017 5:23 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 15/02/2017 12:35 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>>> > >> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Renewable energy is good if it works, my problem is with it when it >>>>>> is a >>>>>> waste of time or does not work efficiently,Coal is fine as a stop >>>>>> gap >>>>>> till the bugs are worked out in renewables. >>>>> >>>>> **What bugs would they be? Wind turbines work. >>>> >>>> when the wind blows, and not cost effective >>> >>> **Once erected, they deliver power at no cost for decades. >> >> except for maintenance, breakdowns, servicing, etc., and killing birds > > **That old chestnut. Far more birds are killed by emissions from coal > fired power stations than from wind turbines. failed to address the maintenance issue I see > In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I bet > you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 times > more birds than wind turbines do. > > So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats off > to the pound when I catch them. what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? > If the cat is chipped, it only costs the neighbour $100.00 to get it > back. They only do it once or twice. Cat owners are quite easy to > train. Hit them in the wallet. train them to do what? -- http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://www.siotw.org
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| From | Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
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| Date | 2017-02-18 15:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnoagovd.d4m.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
| In reply to | #32792 |
A felix wrote: ----snip---- > what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run > elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? You don't? ----snip---- Ned
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 10:20 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <egs3fcF3o1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32792 |
On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: > On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 17/02/2017 5:04 PM, felix wrote: >>> On Thursday, 16 Feb 2017 11:52 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 16/02/2017 11:46 AM, felix wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, 16 Feb 2017 5:23 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 15/02/2017 12:35 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>>>> >> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Renewable energy is good if it works, my problem is with it when it >>>>>>> is a >>>>>>> waste of time or does not work efficiently,Coal is fine as a stop >>>>>>> gap >>>>>>> till the bugs are worked out in renewables. >>>>>> >>>>>> **What bugs would they be? Wind turbines work. >>>>> >>>>> when the wind blows, and not cost effective >>>> >>>> **Once erected, they deliver power at no cost for decades. >>> >>> except for maintenance, breakdowns, servicing, etc., and killing birds >> >> **That old chestnut. Far more birds are killed by emissions from coal >> fired power stations than from wind turbines. > > failed to address the maintenance issue I see **Coal-fired power stations require maintenance too. ALL power generation equipment does. > >> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I bet >> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 times >> more birds than wind turbines do. >> >> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats off >> to the pound when I catch them. > > what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run > elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I find on my property. I don't. I catch them and send them to the pound, where they are de-sexed, re-homed or returned to their stupid owners. > >> If the cat is chipped, it only costs the neighbour $100.00 to get it >> back. They only do it once or twice. Cat owners are quite easy to >> train. Hit them in the wallet. > > train them to do what? **To keep their fucking cats locked up. Dogs are not allowed to roam the streets. I fail to see why cats should be. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <egs9ddF143cU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32810 |
On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 17/02/2017 5:04 PM, felix wrote: >>>> On Thursday, 16 Feb 2017 11:52 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 16/02/2017 11:46 AM, felix wrote: >>>>>> On Thursday, 16 Feb 2017 5:23 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 15/02/2017 12:35 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Renewable energy is good if it works, my problem is with it >>>>>>>> when it >>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>> waste of time or does not work efficiently,Coal is fine as a stop >>>>>>>> gap >>>>>>>> till the bugs are worked out in renewables. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **What bugs would they be? Wind turbines work. >>>>>> >>>>>> when the wind blows, and not cost effective >>>>> >>>>> **Once erected, they deliver power at no cost for decades. >>>> >>>> except for maintenance, breakdowns, servicing, etc., and killing birds >>> >>> **That old chestnut. Far more birds are killed by emissions from coal >>> fired power stations than from wind turbines. >> >> failed to address the maintenance issue I see > > **Coal-fired power stations require maintenance too. ALL power > generation equipment does. > >> >>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I bet >>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 times >>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>> >>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats off >>> to the pound when I catch them. >> >> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run >> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? > > **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I > find on my property. I didn't know that > I don't. I catch them and send them to the pound, where they are > de-sexed, re-homed or returned to their stupid owners. > > >> >>> If the cat is chipped, it only costs the neighbour $100.00 to get it >>> back. They only do it once or twice. Cat owners are quite easy to >>> train. Hit them in the wallet. >> >> train them to do what? > > **To keep their fucking cats locked up. Dogs are not allowed to roam > the streets. I fail to see why cats should be. > > -- http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://www.siotw.org
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2017-02-20 09:27 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <egukn0Ffkd8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32821 |
On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: > On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 17/02/2017 5:04 PM, felix wrote: >>>>> On Thursday, 16 Feb 2017 11:52 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 16/02/2017 11:46 AM, felix wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, 16 Feb 2017 5:23 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 15/02/2017 12:35 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Renewable energy is good if it works, my problem is with it >>>>>>>>> when it >>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>> waste of time or does not work efficiently,Coal is fine as a stop >>>>>>>>> gap >>>>>>>>> till the bugs are worked out in renewables. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **What bugs would they be? Wind turbines work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> when the wind blows, and not cost effective >>>>>> >>>>>> **Once erected, they deliver power at no cost for decades. >>>>> >>>>> except for maintenance, breakdowns, servicing, etc., and killing birds >>>> >>>> **That old chestnut. Far more birds are killed by emissions from coal >>>> fired power stations than from wind turbines. >>> >>> failed to address the maintenance issue I see >> >> **Coal-fired power stations require maintenance too. ALL power >> generation equipment does. >> >>> >>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I bet >>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 times >>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>> >>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats off >>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>> >>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run >>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >> >> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >> find on my property. > > I didn't know that **Yep: http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf Page 23. Cats harbor disease, which can endanger the foetus of a pregnant woman. Cats should be kept indoors at all times. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-20 11:28 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <egurikFgsl8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32850 |
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> >>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I >>>>> bet >>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 times >>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>> >>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats >>>>> off >>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>> >>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run >>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>> >>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>> find on my property. >> >> I didn't know that > > **Yep: > > http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf > > > Page 23. One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, you are also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a right to kill cats on your property, viz... Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some competent person enters any inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901 and approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of the land or any person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy the cat if he or she reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause injury to any of those animals. (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an animal (other than vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section 30 (1) (b)) can lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably practicable way of protecting the animal. (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section that results in the injury to or death of a cat must: (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any necessary treatment, and (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person is an authorised officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised officer may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its owner or taken to a council pound, and (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this section for the purpose of causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised officer is satisfied that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends only to authorising the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die quickly and without unnecessary suffering. .................................................. firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the cat has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply with the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure any cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals legislation > > Cats harbor disease, which can endanger the foetus of a pregnant woman. > > Cats should be kept indoors at all times. > > -- http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://www.siotw.org
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2017-02-20 11:29 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <egursuFgtn4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32857 |
On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote: > On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >>> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I >>>>>> bet >>>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 times >>>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats >>>>>> off >>>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>>> >>>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run >>>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>>> >>>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>>> find on my property. >>> >>> I didn't know that >> >> **Yep: >> >> http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf >> >> >> Page 23. > > One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, you are > also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a right > to kill cats on your property, viz... > > Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] > Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats > > (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some competent > person enters any > inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection Act > 1901 and > approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of the land > or any > person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy the cat > if he or she > reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause injury to > any of those > animals. > > (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an > animal (other than > vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section 30 (1) > (b)) can > lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably > practicable way of > protecting the animal. > > (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section that > results in the injury > to or death of a cat must: > (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any > necessary > treatment, and > (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person is an > authorised > officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised > officer > may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its owner > or taken > to a council pound, and > (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. > > (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this section > for the purpose of > causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised > officer is satisfied > that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. > > (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the > > (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends > only to authorising > the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die quickly and > without > unnecessary suffering. > .................................................. > > firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as > prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the cat > has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply with > the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that > contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. > > do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute > 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure any > cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be > subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals legislation **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-20 19:43 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <egvohbFlmrcU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32858 |
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote: >> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >>>> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I >>>>>>> bet >>>>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 >>>>>>> times >>>>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats >>>>>>> off >>>>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>>>> >>>>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run >>>>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>>>> >>>>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>>>> find on my property. >>>> >>>> I didn't know that >>> >>> **Yep: >>> >>> http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> Page 23. >> >> One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, you are >> also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a right >> to kill cats on your property, viz... >> >> Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] >> Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats >> >> (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some competent >> person enters any >> inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection Act >> 1901 and >> approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of the land >> or any >> person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy the cat >> if he or she >> reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause injury to >> any of those >> animals. >> >> (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an >> animal (other than >> vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section 30 (1) >> (b)) can >> lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably >> practicable way of >> protecting the animal. >> >> (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section that >> results in the injury >> to or death of a cat must: >> (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any >> necessary >> treatment, and >> (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person is an >> authorised >> officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised >> officer >> may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its owner >> or taken >> to a council pound, and >> (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. >> >> (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this section >> for the purpose of >> causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised >> officer is satisfied >> that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. >> >> (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the >> >> (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends >> only to authorising >> the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die quickly and >> without >> unnecessary suffering. >> .................................................. >> >> firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as >> prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the cat >> has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply with >> the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that >> contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. >> >> do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute >> 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure any >> cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be >> subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals >> legislation > > **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided > me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't > kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. > > what right do you have to trap them? -- http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://www.siotw.org
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-20 19:53 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <qfblac1ig0cu1h1201gsfc1ffot0t3t5ni@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32878 |
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote: >On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote: >>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >>>>> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I >>>>>>>> bet >>>>>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 >>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats >>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run >>>>>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>>>>> >>>>>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>>>>> find on my property. >>>>> >>>>> I didn't know that >>>> >>>> **Yep: >>>> >>>> http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Page 23. >>> >>> One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, you are >>> also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a right >>> to kill cats on your property, viz... >>> >>> Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] >>> Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats >>> >>> (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some competent >>> person enters any >>> inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection Act >>> 1901 and >>> approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of the land >>> or any >>> person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy the cat >>> if he or she >>> reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause injury to >>> any of those >>> animals. >>> >>> (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an >>> animal (other than >>> vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section 30 (1) >>> (b)) can >>> lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably >>> practicable way of >>> protecting the animal. >>> >>> (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section that >>> results in the injury >>> to or death of a cat must: >>> (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any >>> necessary >>> treatment, and >>> (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person is an >>> authorised >>> officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised >>> officer >>> may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its owner >>> or taken >>> to a council pound, and >>> (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. >>> >>> (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this section >>> for the purpose of >>> causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised >>> officer is satisfied >>> that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. >>> >>> (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the >>> >>> (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends >>> only to authorising >>> the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die quickly and >>> without >>> unnecessary suffering. >>> .................................................. >>> >>> firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as >>> prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the cat >>> has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply with >>> the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that >>> contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. >>> >>> do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute >>> 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure any >>> cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be >>> subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals >>> legislation >> >> **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided >> me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't >> kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. >> >> > >what right do you have to trap them? He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his property, needs his arse sued off by a lawyer. -- Petzl Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think they're all insane. But I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. Don't you agree? John Lennon
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-20 20:26 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <vbdlac9uh5mpq486q6nkfl5ka9kmuih3rr@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32879 |
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:53:36 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >wrote: > >>On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote: >>>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I >>>>>>>>> bet >>>>>>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 >>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats >>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run >>>>>>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>>>>>> find on my property. >>>>>> >>>>>> I didn't know that >>>>> >>>>> **Yep: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Page 23. >>>> >>>> One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, you are >>>> also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a right >>>> to kill cats on your property, viz... >>>> >>>> Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] >>>> Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats >>>> >>>> (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some competent >>>> person enters any >>>> inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection Act >>>> 1901 and >>>> approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of the land >>>> or any >>>> person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy the cat >>>> if he or she >>>> reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause injury to >>>> any of those >>>> animals. >>>> >>>> (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an >>>> animal (other than >>>> vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section 30 (1) >>>> (b)) can >>>> lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably >>>> practicable way of >>>> protecting the animal. >>>> >>>> (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section that >>>> results in the injury >>>> to or death of a cat must: >>>> (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any >>>> necessary >>>> treatment, and >>>> (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person is an >>>> authorised >>>> officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised >>>> officer >>>> may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its owner >>>> or taken >>>> to a council pound, and >>>> (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. >>>> >>>> (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this section >>>> for the purpose of >>>> causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised >>>> officer is satisfied >>>> that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. >>>> >>>> (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the >>>> >>>> (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends >>>> only to authorising >>>> the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die quickly and >>>> without >>>> unnecessary suffering. >>>> .................................................. >>>> >>>> firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as >>>> prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the cat >>>> has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply with >>>> the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that >>>> contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. >>>> >>>> do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute >>>> 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure any >>>> cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be >>>> subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals >>>> legislation >>> >>> **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided >>> me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't >>> kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. >>> >>> >> >>what right do you have to trap them? > >He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his >property, needs his arse sued off by a lawyer. Somebody should print the relevant post(s) and do a letter box drop around his neighborhood. I should be in Sydney late in the year, I may well do it myself.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-20 20:42 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <0delac58a8pl1g6kifocm7vvpee86p1j3k@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32880 |
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:26:24 +1100, Jeßus <j@j.net> wrote: >>>> **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided >>>> me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't >>>> kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>what right do you have to trap them? >> >>He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his >>property, needs his arse sued off by a lawyer. > >Somebody should print the relevant post(s) and do a letter box drop >around his neighborhood. I should be in Sydney late in the year, I may >well do it myself. Pretty much a lowlife act to a neighbor. Cats are four legs and belly, of course if they smell tuna or salmon they are going to work out how to get it -- Petzl Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think they're all insane. But I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. Don't you agree? John Lennon
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-23 09:56 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <oj5sacpn4jhc7o9l4mvtvpl1c2ti568dnh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32881 |
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:42:58 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote: >On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:26:24 +1100, Jeßus <j@j.net> wrote: > >>>>> **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided >>>>> me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't >>>>> kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>what right do you have to trap them? >>> >>>He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his >>>property, needs his arse sued off by a lawyer. >> >>Somebody should print the relevant post(s) and do a letter box drop >>around his neighborhood. I should be in Sydney late in the year, I may >>well do it myself. > >Pretty much a lowlife act to a neighbor. >Cats are four legs and belly, of course if they smell tuna or salmon >they are going to work out how to get it He's playing with fire if he actually does as he claims here. He's (apparently) blissfully unaware of how much a cat can be a dearly loved family member. He better hope the wrong kind of person/victim doesn't become aware of his activities because I know what I'd do to Trevor had he done this to one of my girls.
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-20 23:59 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <eh07h8FosjkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32879 |
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> > wrote: > >> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>> On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote: >>>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I >>>>>>>>> bet >>>>>>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 >>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats >>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>>>>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run >>>>>>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>>>>>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>>>>>> find on my property. >>>>>> I didn't know that >>>>> **Yep: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Page 23. >>>> One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, you are >>>> also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a right >>>> to kill cats on your property, viz... >>>> >>>> Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] >>>> Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats >>>> >>>> (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some competent >>>> person enters any >>>> inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection Act >>>> 1901 and >>>> approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of the land >>>> or any >>>> person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy the cat >>>> if he or she >>>> reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause injury to >>>> any of those >>>> animals. >>>> >>>> (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an >>>> animal (other than >>>> vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section 30 (1) >>>> (b)) can >>>> lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably >>>> practicable way of >>>> protecting the animal. >>>> >>>> (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section that >>>> results in the injury >>>> to or death of a cat must: >>>> (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any >>>> necessary >>>> treatment, and >>>> (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person is an >>>> authorised >>>> officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised >>>> officer >>>> may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its owner >>>> or taken >>>> to a council pound, and >>>> (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. >>>> >>>> (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this section >>>> for the purpose of >>>> causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised >>>> officer is satisfied >>>> that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. >>>> >>>> (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the >>>> >>>> (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends >>>> only to authorising >>>> the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die quickly and >>>> without >>>> unnecessary suffering. >>>> .................................................. >>>> >>>> firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as >>>> prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the cat >>>> has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply with >>>> the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that >>>> contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. >>>> >>>> do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute >>>> 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure any >>>> cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be >>>> subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals >>>> legislation >>> **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided >>> me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't >>> kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. >>> >>> >> what right do you have to trap them? > He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his > property, did he say that he was? > needs his arse sued off by a lawyer. -- http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://www.siotw.org
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| From | felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-21 00:39 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <eh09tgFpbs5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32882 |
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:59 PM, felix wrote: > On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote: >>>>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about >>>>>>>>>> birds (I >>>>>>>>>> bet >>>>>>>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 >>>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's >>>>>>>>>> cats >>>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>>>>>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you >>>>>>>>> also run >>>>>>>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>>>>>>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>>>>>>> find on my property. >>>>>>> I didn't know that >>>>>> **Yep: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Page 23. >>>>> One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, >>>>> you are >>>>> also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a >>>>> right >>>>> to kill cats on your property, viz... >>>>> >>>>> Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] >>>>> Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats >>>>> >>>>> (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some >>>>> competent >>>>> person enters any >>>>> inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection >>>>> Act >>>>> 1901 and >>>>> approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of >>>>> the land >>>>> or any >>>>> person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy >>>>> the cat >>>>> if he or she >>>>> reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause >>>>> injury to >>>>> any of those >>>>> animals. >>>>> >>>>> (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an >>>>> animal (other than >>>>> vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section >>>>> 30 (1) >>>>> (b)) can >>>>> lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably >>>>> practicable way of >>>>> protecting the animal. >>>>> >>>>> (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section >>>>> that >>>>> results in the injury >>>>> to or death of a cat must: >>>>> (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any >>>>> necessary >>>>> treatment, and >>>>> (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person >>>>> is an >>>>> authorised >>>>> officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised >>>>> officer >>>>> may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its >>>>> owner >>>>> or taken >>>>> to a council pound, and >>>>> (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. >>>>> >>>>> (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this >>>>> section >>>>> for the purpose of >>>>> causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised >>>>> officer is satisfied >>>>> that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. >>>>> >>>>> (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the >>>>> >>>>> (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends >>>>> only to authorising >>>>> the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die >>>>> quickly and >>>>> without >>>>> unnecessary suffering. >>>>> .................................................. >>>>> >>>>> firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as >>>>> prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the >>>>> cat >>>>> has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply >>>>> with >>>>> the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that >>>>> contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. >>>>> >>>>> do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute >>>>> 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure >>>>> any >>>>> cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be >>>>> subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals >>>>> legislation >>>> **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided >>>> me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't >>>> kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. >>>> >>>> >>> what right do you have to trap them? >> He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his >> property, > > did he say that he was? of course, if he's trapping them then he's baiting his traps. what a scumbag! > >> needs his arse sued off by a lawyer. > > -- http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://www.siotw.org
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| From | de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <bKCdnZfYEolwEzbFnZ2dnUU7-IvNnZ2d@westnet.com.au> |
| In reply to | #32883 |
On 21/02/2017 12:39 AM, felix wrote: > On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:59 PM, felix wrote: >> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote: >>> On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>> On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote: >>>>>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>> On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about >>>>>>>>>>> birds (I >>>>>>>>>>> bet >>>>>>>>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 >>>>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's >>>>>>>>>>> cats >>>>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>>>>>>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you >>>>>>>>>> also run >>>>>>>>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>>>>>>>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>>>>>>>> find on my property. >>>>>>>> I didn't know that >>>>>>> **Yep: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Page 23. >>>>>> One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, >>>>>> you are >>>>>> also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a >>>>>> right >>>>>> to kill cats on your property, viz... >>>>>> >>>>>> Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] >>>>>> Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats >>>>>> >>>>>> (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some >>>>>> competent >>>>>> person enters any >>>>>> inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection >>>>>> Act >>>>>> 1901 and >>>>>> approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of >>>>>> the land >>>>>> or any >>>>>> person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy >>>>>> the cat >>>>>> if he or she >>>>>> reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause >>>>>> injury to >>>>>> any of those >>>>>> animals. >>>>>> >>>>>> (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an >>>>>> animal (other than >>>>>> vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section >>>>>> 30 (1) >>>>>> (b)) can >>>>>> lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably >>>>>> practicable way of >>>>>> protecting the animal. >>>>>> >>>>>> (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section >>>>>> that >>>>>> results in the injury >>>>>> to or death of a cat must: >>>>>> (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any >>>>>> necessary >>>>>> treatment, and >>>>>> (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person >>>>>> is an >>>>>> authorised >>>>>> officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised >>>>>> officer >>>>>> may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its >>>>>> owner >>>>>> or taken >>>>>> to a council pound, and >>>>>> (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. >>>>>> >>>>>> (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this >>>>>> section >>>>>> for the purpose of >>>>>> causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised >>>>>> officer is satisfied >>>>>> that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. >>>>>> >>>>>> (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the >>>>>> >>>>>> (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends >>>>>> only to authorising >>>>>> the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die >>>>>> quickly and >>>>>> without >>>>>> unnecessary suffering. >>>>>> .................................................. >>>>>> >>>>>> firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as >>>>>> prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the >>>>>> cat >>>>>> has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply >>>>>> with >>>>>> the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that >>>>>> contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. >>>>>> >>>>>> do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute >>>>>> 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure >>>>>> any >>>>>> cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be >>>>>> subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals >>>>>> legislation >>>>> **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided >>>>> me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't >>>>> kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> what right do you have to trap them? >>> He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his >>> property, >> >> did he say that he was? > > of course, if he's trapping them then he's baiting his traps. what a > scumbag! If your cat doesn't wander you have no problem BUT cats do
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| From | F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-21 01:46 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
| Message-ID | <58ab0137$0$65021$b1db1813$79461190@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #32882 |
felix wrote: > On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote: >>>>> On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about >>>>>>>>>> birds (I >>>>>>>>>> bet >>>>>>>>>> you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000 >>>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>>> more birds than wind turbines do. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's >>>>>>>>>> cats >>>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>> to the pound when I catch them. >>>>>>>>> what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you >>>>>>>>> also run >>>>>>>>> elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow? >>>>>>>> **Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I >>>>>>>> find on my property. >>>>>>> I didn't know that >>>>>> **Yep: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Page 23. >>>>> One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, you >>>>> are >>>>> also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a >>>>> right >>>>> to kill cats on your property, viz... >>>>> >>>>> Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW] >>>>> Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats >>>>> >>>>> (3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some competent >>>>> person enters any >>>>> inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection Act >>>>> 1901 and >>>>> approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of the >>>>> land >>>>> or any >>>>> person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy >>>>> the cat >>>>> if he or she >>>>> reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause >>>>> injury to >>>>> any of those >>>>> animals. >>>>> >>>>> (4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an >>>>> animal (other than >>>>> vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section 30 >>>>> (1) >>>>> (b)) can >>>>> lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably >>>>> practicable way of >>>>> protecting the animal. >>>>> >>>>> (5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section that >>>>> results in the injury >>>>> to or death of a cat must: >>>>> (a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any >>>>> necessary >>>>> treatment, and >>>>> (b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person >>>>> is an >>>>> authorised >>>>> officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised >>>>> officer >>>>> may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its >>>>> owner >>>>> or taken >>>>> to a council pound, and >>>>> (c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat. >>>>> >>>>> (6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this >>>>> section >>>>> for the purpose of >>>>> causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised >>>>> officer is satisfied >>>>> that the owner of the cat cannot be identified. >>>>> >>>>> (7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the >>>>> >>>>> (8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends >>>>> only to authorising >>>>> the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die >>>>> quickly and >>>>> without >>>>> unnecessary suffering. >>>>> .................................................. >>>>> >>>>> firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as >>>>> prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the cat >>>>> has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply with >>>>> the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that >>>>> contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979. >>>>> >>>>> do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute >>>>> 'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure any >>>>> cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be >>>>> subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals >>>>> legislation >>>> **You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided >>>> me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't >>>> kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound. >>>> >>>> >>> what right do you have to trap them? >> He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his >> property, > > did he say that he was? Yes he did,on the 18/02 "**It is indeed. Possum cages work well. A can of tuna or salmon and the cat is caught. The average cat in Australia is reputed to kill something like 7 native animals per year. It's appalling. Cat owners are, in the main, a disgusting sub-set of humanity. That said, not all are like that. A mate's wife owned a cat, so my mate arranged for a large indoor/outdoor area to be securely fenced with chicken wire, so the cat could play and not interact with any native species. He is in the minority." >> needs his arse sued off by a lawyer. > >
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-21 10:30 +1100 |
| Subject | Re: Cats |
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| In reply to | #32884 |
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 01:46:10 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> what right do you have to trap them? >>> He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his >>> property, >> >> did he say that he was? > > > >Yes he did,on the 18/02 >"**It is indeed. Possum cages work well. A can of tuna or salmon and the >cat is caught. The average cat in Australia is reputed to kill something >like 7 native animals per year. It's appalling. Cat owners are, in the >main, a disgusting sub-set of humanity. That said, not all are like >that. A mate's wife owned a cat, so my mate arranged for a large >indoor/outdoor area to be securely fenced with chicken wire, so the cat >could play and not interact with any native species. He is in the minority." > No mention or survey mentioned the greater killing of birds by rats, The greatest threat is "flying rats" (Indian Myna) <http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/08/australian-cats-and-foxes-may-not-deserve-their-bad-rep> Indian Myma's, https://is.gd/ostEIQ Noisy Miners <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-14/native-noisy-miners-cause-more-damage-than-introduced-species/5964328> This clown is mixed up, next he will blame CO2 emissions for climate when it is known the Earth is moving on it's axis! The North Pole is heading to London <http://klimatsans.com/2017/02/05/klimatfragan-grundad-pa-vetenskap-eller-dogm/> English https://is.gd/NzPGOu >>> needs his arse sued off by a lawyer. >> -- Petzl What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance from our little blue planet for life to evolve? All simply conicidence? The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents and biological mutations? There is no Grand meaning; There is no purpose?
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